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mINIMO BROWSER FROM MOZILA

hI GUYS....
I have tried the new mobnile browser from mozila org its called minimo (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/) its so much good and much beter than opera mini or opera 8.65 or interenet exlorer you sgould try it as well...
i dot know about skyfire because idont live in USA to get a beta testing...
try it

megaxp said:
hI GUYS....
I have tried the new mobnile browser from mozila org its called minimo (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/) its so much good and much beter than opera mini or opera 8.65 or interenet exlorer you sgould try it as well...
i dot know about skyfire because idont live in USA to get a beta testing...
try it
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I wondered if Mozilla would ever come out with a mobile browser! I gotta check it out.

to me really ... it looks dull .... no like cool graphics,,, no 2008 and beyond look... but it has no flash ... no disrespect.. to you or mozilla but i excepted better from them but who knows .... maybe its only a beta or something

it is beta...
but come on what would you expect from an aplication on a mobile phone... what about the graphs of opera or IE are they much better...

hmm how does this differ from the older versions? because ive 'used' them and it was awful.
first time i tried it, it wouldnt even start, second time in interface was so difficult to navigate...

Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?

es_bih said:
Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?
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I would assume that they are talking about a smartphone browser! Opera mini is a smartphone browers and we are a forum for smartphones

es_bih said:
Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?
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Yes it can be used on smartphone as well...

I just installed it twice; it is able to istall on the device, but it is not able to be used. The browser loads up and I cannot navigate with my cursor or joggr pad thorugh the browser.

Clydeisthe**** said:
I would assume that they are talking about a smartphone browser! Opera mini is a smartphone browers and we are a forum for smartphones
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I would assume you try it out first before making comments.
I have downloaded it serveral times. And the Mozilla site and FAQ hints at this being a ppc based browser.

es_bih said:
I would assume you try it out first before making comments.
I have downloaded it serveral times. And the Mozilla site and FAQ hints at this being a ppc based browser.
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i have tried it and is working purfect.... i wouldnt make a post with out a reason... and is very stable as well...

I have too on my dash with 6.1 and am not able to browse or use it. it loads up but i cannot navigate through the browser to select anything. hence why i bothered to ask questions

minimo "works" on Windows Mobile 5 and later devices, both pro and standard. the seemingly un-navigable interface can be operated with buttons, but I can never recall what does what and it always just starts doing weird things, after a lot of struggling.

After reinstalling it about 7 times it finally worked by using the soft buttons to navigate through. However, not stable at all to browse at least on my device.

It takes forever to load and closes when underload. Opera Mini FTW.

kept crashing.

It has promise on a ppc. It looks too much like a touch application. Opera Mobile works much better as a full web browser for the Dash at the moment and Mini for quick viewing.

seems like its causing my phone to crash because its a memory hogger by far.

Never got darn thing to load
After installing Minimo would always hang up. Pity as I love Firefox,(but I love Opera too) On puter I use Opera for all research ect in English and Firefox for Portuguese. My vote is with Opera Mini

please,please help me!

hello.
i have htc s630 and the IE goes very slowly and sometimes i have to do soft riset for it.
i want to install opera mini but the device doesnt let me do it and show an error.
i installed opera mobile[8.65]and its shows the webs not nice and it very old.
my question is-if there is a good browser for smartphone?
that can show all the webs complately?
[i need hebrew support]
my internet pocket is wap only so i need browser that use in wap only.
thank very much
lidor

Skyfire is apprently the new thing and really good, try it out:
http://www.skyfire.com/register

i know..
but the browser use in wifi only..
i asked for wap browser..

No I'm pretty sure you can use that over your GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA network, not just wifi

no no..
i tryed..its not working..
only wap or data..
there must be an wap browser like skyfire..

What about Mobile Firefox?
http://mobilefirefox.com/
I've never tried it but I heard it was a competitor to Opera

hi
it looks nice
but its spacial for windows mobile or any cellphones?

I'm not sure, but I THINK it works for windows mobile

no..
there is another browser?
please help me..
im all the weeks not at home[i learn all the week and sleep there]
and my only spend time is my S630.
WHAT abuot mini map ?
there is no for HTC?
[and you know why nimi opera doesnt works in my s630?]

lidor578 said:
hello.
i have htc s630 and the IE goes very slowly and sometimes i have to do soft riset for it.
i want to install opera mini but the device doesnt let me do it and show an error.
i installed opera mobile[8.65]and its shows the webs not nice and it very old.
my question is-if there is a good browser for smartphone?
that can show all the webs complately?
[i need hebrew support]
my internet pocket is wap only so i need browser that use in wap only.
thank very much
lidor
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First why don't you do a search, it would help you a lot.
IE is slow because WM Smartphones can't close running programs directly (they are only minimised), you have to go to task manager and to close a running program. Now when you start IE it will eat like 5Mb of your memory not to mention media player (10Mb). In onther words your device will freeze instantly. To avoid this you need a program called "Oxios CloseApps" a freeware wich will help a lot as it will stop all running programs and retrive lost memory. There is a cab containing that program here at the forum, but to find it you need to do a search so you can develop searching skills.
As for the other problem that you could not install a program read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432946 - apllication unlock
Cheers

its not the problem..
first,thanks for the advise.
but the slow is not from the ram memory.
its from the open webs
do you know a browser ?

JavaFX for Windows Mobile Available

"The other day Java made a version of JavaFX available for download for Windows Mobile Phone devices. JavaFX is intended to bring more rich media content to phones and since JavaFX can be cross platform (PC, Mac, BlackBerry…everything except the iPhone since Apple may never approve of it) developers can make applications one time and they can run on these platforms natively. Windows is the first mobile platform to have a release of JavaFX. The package contains 4 demos. A Twitter client, a simple calculator, a photo viewer and a little application where your finger makes a ripple and the fish follows it.
So for the first time developer’s can start to work on developing JavaFX applications and have a real mobile testing platform. Of course you can run any other Java app through this as well (I tested it with Google Maps java and it ran fine). The download and additional release notes are located here."
Original Article

whats the diff between JavaFX and regular Java
couldnt they just update the original???

does this replace completely the others java machines, like for ex jbed??

onesolo said:
does this replace completely the others java machines, like for ex jbed??
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sounds too good to be real..(as replacer).

well its posted at javafx.com

nothin said:
sounds too good to be real..(as replacer).
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onesolo said:
does this replace completely the others java machines, like for ex jbed??
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Well, I test it out and in fact is the best java machine that I test it until now for ppc!!!
Downloaded Opera mini and worked like a charm. Even asked me where I wanted to install opera mini, memory internal or external...
Many thkx sun, hopes that this would be in fact the default java machine in major phones. Or if java was not from Sun....

Well, I test it out and in fact is the best java machine that I test it until now for ppc!!!
Downloaded Opera mini and worked like a charm. Even asked me where I wanted to install opera mini, memory internal or external...
Many thkx sun, hopes that this would be in fact the default java machine in major phones. Or if java was not from Sun....
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ooh, thanks for information! need to take a closer look then.
(if only bt work with that too...you know what i mean ..).
upd: hmm it can be SLOW as hell and seems to be typical vga soft, although it handles launched application resolutions quite well(320x240 is 320x240)..

onesolo said:
Well, I test it out and in fact is the best java machine that I test it until now for ppc!!!
Downloaded Opera mini and worked like a charm. Even asked me where I wanted to install opera mini, memory internal or external...
Many thkx sun, hopes that this would be in fact the default java machine in major phones. Or if java was not from Sun....
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Hmm, I don't know. JavaFX is much, much, much slower with Opera Mini on my Touch Pro than jbed. The font seems a little nicer, though. I think it uses antialiasing.

Interesting app.
Worked fine but....
Could not install file from memory, only by internet, that worked.
Installed Gmail as test. Continuallyl, said there was no internet connection with Wifi and Active sync.
After fiddling with it. I decided to remove JavaFx. After that many strange things happened.
Had to hard reset. :-(
Wm6.1

rojaa said:
I decided to remove JavaFx. After that many strange things happened.
Had to hard reset. :-(
Wm6.1
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I have removed JavaFX, too, but everything went fine, no hard reset needed. WM6.1, too.

It works on a Touch HD. But for some reason, its slow. Esp. the fish app.

How is the Twitter App? Just asking as I tend to shy away from java apps on my device because I never really had much success with them running properly.

I'm now running Opera Mini in JavaFX rather than JBED. I like it better.
Does anyone know the correct syntax to make a shortcut to automatically run Opera Mini (rather than start JavaFX and choose Opera Mini from the list)?
With JBED it was "\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_

DarrenUtd said:
I'm now running Opera Mini in JavaFX rather than JBED. I like it better.
Does anyone know the correct syntax to make a shortcut to automatically run Opera Mini (rather than start JavaFX and choose Opera Mini from the list)?
With JBED it was "\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
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When I click on New application -> From storage, I'm always asked to enter a URL, I can't seem to choose any file. Have it installed on Blackstone latest stock ROM. Any hint ?

Georgeous2008 said:
When I click on New application -> From storage, I'm always asked to enter a URL, I can't seem to choose any file. Have it installed on Blackstone latest stock ROM. Any hint ?
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The "from storage" option doesn't seem to work, but it's easy enough to just install java apps in the usual manner, as JavaFX makes itself the default JVM. Click on the JAD file in a web browser and it'll install fine.

sun java network problem
so I cooked the sun java package on my tp2.. installed opera mini... but I can't get the network. if you are running opera mini, maybe you have some provisioning files that are nessesary to connect to the internet?? OM just says that there is no network connection.

JavaFx.exe parameters
I see that you still don't know how to run this emulator from a shortcut and run in it any midlet.
But maybe someone haven't posted it yet but knows it. I hope someone will write what is the missing parameter

Does Opera Mini web browser work with tmobile tp2????

Wondering if anyone has been able to install and successfully operate opera mini. This is one of my favorite browsers. When I installed the cab file it didnt load. I then went to the site and tried to download it and it would not open. If anyone has been able to do this or if you are able to find a solution I would be very grateful if you posted a working cab of the browser here in this thread. Thanks in advance!

Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks. hold on while i find the cab for you
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download the Opera Mini - large fonts (VGA) cab and put on your phone. You don't need the opera mini tweaks.
This will install Jbed java manager & install Opera Mini for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567

Thanks for the quick response. I went to the link and attempted downloading the cab. The cab file says its 2.90mb but for some reason my tp2 is only dling 1.37mb. So the cab is not working. Anyway you can post the cab file here so I can download it direct? I need another source cause that site isnt cooperating with my phone.

Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!

I have Opera Mobile. I would like Opera Mini. I just cant seem to download the entire cab from that site

unfortunately the cab is too big to upload. download it from that thread on to your computer & then move it to your phone

wow that sucks. i am going to try downloading it with my Kaiser then. My computer is currently down and awaiting repair so I am screwed for the moment. I cant even flash a new rom :-(

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?

leckig said:
but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?
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that's why i went with Mini, since the scroll bar doesn't work. Plus i love the syncing bookmarks feature.

I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.

The Great Malaki said:
I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.
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I agree, the one that is installed is perfectly fine and you dont have to worry about all these bugs

Just wanted to thank you again for posting the cab. I was finally able to download it using internet exploer and its working great. Just my 2 cents, 3g plus opera mini equals fastest mobile internet experience ever only to be rivaled by wifi which is not so mobile.

You're welcome. I hear ya buddy, I like Opera Mini more than any of the other mobile browsers except Safari. I still use it even though I have full 3G & could Opera Mobile, but Mobile just sucks, right along with IE.

xnifex said:
Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks.
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What are the trade-offs between using Jblend vs. Jbed?
It's been a while since I've used Jbed. I remember it had a background mode, which Jblend still doesn't have. And I'm not crazy about how Jblend throws a wobbly when I change screen orientation.
But, beyond that I don't know how the Jblend version on the TP2 compares with the current Jbed. I haven't found any good comparisons that were less than a year or two old. Even the MIDlet Bible is out of date now.
I don't have a particular attachment to Jblend, but saying it "sucks" isn't a real compelling argument against it. Are there any real performance comparisons you're aware of between Jblend and other JVMs?

I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.

orb3000 said:
+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones
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I use mini instead of 9.7b w/ turbo.
Why:
Mini is an order of magnitude faster in real life.
9.7b is still buggy as hell, often crashing.
Scrolling on 9.7b is painfully slow and redraws take a long time compared to Mini Opera.
Granted, one must install the above linked JBED+signed Opera Mini+associated quick link to get anywhere near usable installation of Opera Mini, and even after that one has to tweak the font size.
But once this is done, there's no contenst - at least for me. Mini Opera is waaaay faster than Opera 9.7b with turbo enabled.

Faster is not always better
both mini and mobile are great versions of the browser
what I like more from mobile is that is more complete more similar to a laptop browser, yes mini is faster but I still prefer opera mobile!
I have plenty of free memory and RAM to run it smoothly
And let´s wait to have the final stable release! that would be great!
just my opinion,

Mini is not just a little bit faster, its a lot faster. At least for me it is. Sure Mobile has more of a desktop look and feel and offers a more complete webpage experience. Thing is I dont need all the fancy flash animations and things of that nature when I am just trying to quickly check a website like this forum. I have both mini and mobile in case I have a problem with a certain site and even mobile gave me problems which made me resort to IE just to download a cab file.
I do have one problem though. Anyway to make the images larger on mini? I dled the hi res version as suggested and now all pics and certain buttons are very tiny. I tried settings and changed the image quality but this did nothing for the image size. Any solution?

xnifex said:
I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.
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Yeah, that's definitely a nuisance, but so far it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. I use TouchPal as an on-screen keyboard most of the time, although I wouldn't give up the TP2 keyboard...when I feel the need for it, it's great. I still don't know if I'd label Jblend with "sucks", since I don't know how its performance compares overall, but if I changed orientations a lot when browsing and had to keep re-running Opera Mini, I'd be switching JVMs too!

TILT2 browser sucks. Possible to install OLDER version of IE?

So, as everyone can agree on, the IE browser sucks on the tilt.
Has anyone tried/is it possible to install an older version of IE (the one's from WM6.1?)?
Anyone have a CAB file we can try?
I used to use PIEPLUS on Internet Explorer browser awhile back.. that fit everything on the screen.
Probably wont need it with the 800x400 resolution but just because the screen grew, does not mean that they should be enlarging fonts or fitting the entire page on the damn window and scrolling like mad!

Try Opera Mobile 10 beta 2
Is amazing, fast smooth!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502

myknyte said:
So, as everyone can agree on, the IE browser sucks on the tilt.
Has anyone tried/is it possible to install an older version of IE (the one's from WM6.1?)?
Anyone have a CAB file we can try?
I used to use PIEPLUS on Internet Explorer browser awhile back.. that fit everything on the screen.
Probably wont need it with the 800x400 resolution but just because the screen grew, does not mean that they should be enlarging fonts or fitting the entire page on the damn window and scrolling like mad!
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IE? Your device comes with Opera Mobile 9.5 which is superior in every way possible.
And yeah, do check out Opera Mobile 10 beta...

Hmm I'm not fond of any of the OPERA browsers..
Found my answer and solved my own dilema..
You can install Pocket IE that came with WM6.1 on the Rhodium here
(scroll down the thread a bit)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365743
Gives you back the same look/feel (and I dunno, possibly FASTER BROWSING?) as WM6 without all this crud thats on the STOCK ROM.
Will require a reset but installs fine on my device. CAB file so I should theoretically be able to remove/uninstall if I don't like..

orb3000 said:
Try Opera Mobile 10 beta 2
Is amazing, fast smooth!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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Hmm I'm not fond of any of the OPERA browsers..
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Sorry for quoting myself, but how is that you not found

well, first off.. it's BETA.
Secondly, I never really liked the interface of the Opera browsers .. whether standard or the Mobile ver.
Oftentimes, you'd have to tweak the hell out of the registry to get small sized fonts.. Else, everything is so big.
I managed to get IE6 on my TILT 2 --the same browser I am/was familiar with on WM6.
Without all the skin/fluff, the browser pulls up very quick .. unlike the stock one that comes with the ROM. With the 800x400 resolution and the small font size on IE, I can fit everything on the page.
Im loving it now. IE and webpages comes up waay faster.
With the stock IE and stock Opera Browser, pulling up the homepage took ..oh.. maybe like 45 seconds.
With IE (and I changed the homepage to Google), it takes a good 2-3 seconds.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5082048#post5082048

You're definitely doing something wrong if the old IE is faster than the new IE or any version of Opera 9 and up.