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Htc Hero On 3g In The US ?

Hey, Ive had the Htc Hero for a few weeks, and i was wondering if it was possible to make a hack or something so 3g will work on the us 3g bands. Or will we have to wait until they release a gsm unlocked north American Htc hero. Please get back soon.

You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.

Im thinking this will show up on Roger's in Canada (uses AT&T Compatible 850/1900) before it actually shows up from AT&T.
Ebay.ca would be the way to go.

I believe it might show up on AT&T sooner than we all think
A version with AT&T 3G bands have already passed the FCC (as well as a version with EvDo bands for Sprint) so it looks like 2 North American carriers are poised for some Hero lovin'. Frankly, I'm ready for either an AT&T Hero or a Sprint Hero as I use both carriers.

Freak786 said:
You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.
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according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it should work with at&t and should not lock you into an expensive plan like the iphone if you get it unlocked.

agentkalaw said:
according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
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Quad band for GSM, not for HSDPA/WCDMA. Hero will currently work in the US, but Edge is the best you'll get.
Regards,
Dave

My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !

daraj said:
My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !
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Is this a fact?

Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave
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Thats the Hero 200 not the Hero 130.

Its just a matter of time before we can use it on AT&T Network

Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.

michd43 said:
Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.
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No one is saying that ATT will get the HERO. We are saying that there will be 850Mhz WDMA version that works on ATT 3G network. It could be very much like you said Rogers Canada. again, there will be HERO 130 that supports ATT 3G network.

does anyone know if the sprint hero will be able to be rooted? i have heard that it will not be possible. please respond thank you.

850 3g ready!
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...

sqc001 said:
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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This has been covered in this forum many many times already. You don't have to dig up old threads and then add in some wrong information.
The AT&T 3G capable (850/1900) Hero is carried by Canadian carrier Telus, NOT Rogers. The phone is available from their website directly for CAD$499 + tax, without contract. They don't ship outside Canada, and people have reported that their local Telus stores do not sell them without opening a line. Some said that it could be purchased without contract at BestBuy (in Canada of course).
A friend (who lives in Canada) of mine helped me to get one. It is unbranded, but sim locked to Telus. Unlock code can be purchased on eBay for slightly over 20 bucks. Mine now works with AT&T 3G flawlessly. Note that the difference between this Hero and the European Hero, is in hardware. No ROM flashing will enable 850/1900 for 3G on the European Hero.

sqc001 said:
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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BTW, the support of the band 850 alone will not enable a phone to use AT&T 3G network. It requires BOTH 850 and 1900 together.

Yup i'm from toronto and under contract with Rogers. I bought a Telus HTC Hero and unlocked it and it works perfect with Rogers. I took a trip down to NYC and it works on AT&T 3G with no problems.

850/1900 VS. 900/2100 for 3G
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer

tomerbn said:
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer
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Sorry but this is not the case. Rogers version of Dream and Magic have been out for long time already. Have you heard of any case where people can get European or T-Mobile versions of these phones to work on AT&T 3G?
1. The European Hero does not share the same hardware part number with the Telus Hero. The former is HERO100 and the latter is HERO130. Note that this part number is independent of the ROM installed. Asian Heros (Hong Kong, Taiwan, China etc), all have different ROMs but they are all HERO100.
2. Your "certification theory" is wrong. This type of certification doesn't work that way. Adding another chip to support 2 more bands won't delay the certification by months. Days, at most, if at all.
3. Continued from 2. The HERO100 was never sent to FCC for certification. I have both phones with me right now, and there is no FCC certification logo on the HERO100 hardware or on the box, while the FCC logo is easily spotted on the HERO130.
4. People on the other thread had report dialing problems flashing HERO100 radio rom onto HERO130. The problem went away by flashing a newer HERO100 (but no one knows where it came from) radio rom, although people are still reporting SMS problem with this radio rom on HERO130. This radio has been reported to work perfectly (indeed, a lot reported better reception) on HERO100. If the HERO100 and the HERO130 share the same hardware, the difference should go away by flashing the same rom. The fact that, with the same rom the HERO130 supports 850/1900 for 3G while the HERO100 doesn't, clearly indicate the difference in hardware.
While it is not impossible for cell phone manufacturers modify radio rom to restrict bands that their phones support, this is very uncommon (Can you name those WinMo device that you mentioned?). On the other hand, almost every cell phone model has various verisons of hardware to support different bands in different countries. A chip that supports fewer bands costs less. When there are enough demand to move sales, it is much more profitable to produce a region specific hardware with a cheaper chip than to write code to restrict the functionality of a more expensive chip that supports bands that that region never needs.

Anyone using the A8183 Desire (Telstra) with AT&T in the US?

I've been thinking about getting this unlocked model that is compatible with AT&T 3G. I was wondering if anyone here has done this, and is there a way to get a sort "US-ified" version of the official HTC ROM that can receive OTA updates.
Thanks.

i'm currently using the A8183 in Canada on the Rogers network, which uses the same freq as AT&T for 3g, works great for me. however, if you wait prob a month or so (or maybe even sooner) Telus/Bell will release a NAM of the Desire, they also use the same freq for 3g (Bell, Telus, Fido, Rogers, and AT&T all use 850/1900 for 3g)

i'm using an A8183 (Telstra) HTC Desire on AT&T... in my opinion, you won't get a US-type ROM without rooting and installing one of the custom ROMs... i'm using the DJDroid Froyo w/Sense ROM and have not had any problems. personally, i don't worry about OTA updates because i'll get them on xda first.

I too have an a8183 on at&t. The only problem is that at&t does operate on 1900 mhz for 3g, but 850 mhz will not completely fallout till the end of the 2010. So If you live in nc, ga, sc, or va . The southeast market. You won't have the 3g because they currently run 1900 mhz 3g. I can still stream music on edge pulling 100 kbs up and down.
Patience is a virtue and locally in NC I have seen an internal ATT map showing many cell site upgrades complete, but they have not switched it on yet for 850mhz.
Latest news is for Atlanta and Manhattan switched on.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks guys. I think what I'm going to do is wait and see if AT&T comes out with their own version of the Desire this month, like has been rumored.

At&t will not get the desire. I am an employee and waited and waited. We may get the rumored dual core Qualcomm since it was just delivered to HTC and the incredible went to Verizon. So we are next for the bigger one.
There is a Samsung coming out Sunday, but I just love the support for HTC with xda. You will have 850mhz umts by the end of the year if you live in a 3g area.
What state are you in?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

mayad79 said:
At&t will not get the desire. I am an employee and waited and waited. We may get the rumored dual core Qualcomm since it was just delivered to HTC and the incredible went to Verizon. So we are next for the bigger one.
There is a Samsung coming out Sunday, but I just love the support for HTC with xda. You will have 850mhz umts by the end of the year if you live in a 3g area.
What state are you in?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I think I may still wait to see what AT&T comes out with from HTC, even if it isn't the Desire. The new Samsung Galaxy S phone on AT&T looks nice, except for the fact that it doesn't have a camera flash. That's a big omission in my opinion.
I'm in Connecticut, where we already have 850 mhz.

Go for it , because gingerbread 3.0 will be a whole new class of devices. Maybe even dedicated graphics cards. But thats about a year away.
Plus the imei is not registered with ATT so you can get away with a 15 dollar data plan. Dude you got 850mhz. Shazam......
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it's probably a good idea to wait. i got an a8183 a couple months ago, i love it but the only reason i got it was because my trusty tilt running eclair was run over and for some reason i didn't want to get a nexus (which is probably what i should have gotten). i was banking on the tilt lasting about another year so i could get on the dual core wagon but no dice. don't get me wrong, i love my desire but with all the cool guy stuff just over the horizon i wish at&t would have released the aria a couple months earlier, so i could have bought a less expensive phone to hold me over til the new stuff came out.

mayad79 said:
Go for it , because gingerbread 3.0 will be a whole new class of devices. Maybe even dedicated graphics cards. But thats about a year away.
Plus the imei is not registered with ATT so you can get away with a 15 dollar data plan. Dude you got 850mhz. Shazam......
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I see that Telus just announced they're getting the Desire soon, which will probably run on 850mhz and 1900mhz. So, I'll see what AT&T does and if nothing and the Telus version comes out, I'll get that one.

I live in North Carolina. How can you tell if they are using the 1900 or 850 band for 3g? I found someone selling the HTC Desire for $500/shipped and was going to get it until I saw this thread. Didn't know if there is a way to find out where AT&T had gone to 850 for 3G bands.

RTP area here and we are definitely on 1900 mhz, and will be strictly 850 mhz by the end of the year. Edge is pulling about 100 kbs up and down.
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Hey everyone, i live in brazil and in usa(orlando).
I'm trying to configure my HTc Desire and i can't get 3G connection, only EDGE,
Anyone know if it's possible get 3g connection with HTC DESIRE on AT&T?

brenopoubel said:
Hey everyone, i live in brazil and in usa(orlando).
I'm trying to configure my HTc Desire and i can't get 3G connection, only EDGE,
Anyone know if it's possible get 3g connection with HTC DESIRE on AT&T?
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Depends what HTC Desire you have. Some can only get certain types of 3G with certain Desires.

ste1164 said:
Depends what HTC Desire you have. Some can only get certain types of 3G with certain Desires.
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What desire works with 3g at&t?
And how can i know where is model of my desire?
Thanks.

brenopoubel said:
What desire works with 3g at&t?
And how can i know where is model of my desire?
Thanks.
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Well, there is 2 models of Desire as far as I know; the A8181 (Not AT&T 3G compatible) and the A8183 (Telstra version, compatible with AT&T 3G). If your Desire isn't working with AT&T, then chances are it's an A8181.
Sent from my HTC Desire running LeeDROID T-Mod 2.2e with Tapatalk.

Remove your battery and on the phone lists the model number next to the imei. A8183 is what you need outside of the southeast market until 2011.
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There appear to be 3 models of the 'classic' Desire:
A8181 - Euro version with 900mhz/2100mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8182 - North American version with SLCD screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8183 - North American / Australian version with AMOLED screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
Hope that helps!

I'm using a htc desire A8183 in Colombia, and it works beautifully with excellent 3G network speed of navigation and a month ago I got the ota update for Android 2.2 Froy. I'm really happy with the phone

scar45 said:
There appear to be 3 models of the 'classic' Desire:
A8181 - Euro version with 900mhz/2100mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8182 - North American version with SLCD screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8183 - North American / Australian version with AMOLED screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
Hope that helps!
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Actually, all the A8183's in Australia being sold have SLCD screens, not AMOLED.
Sent from my HTC Desire running LeeDROID T-Mod 2.2e with Tapatalk.

AT&T Data Plan Pricing

I apologize if a thread like this already exists, I couldn't find it.
I'm planning on purchasing the Telus Desire with 850/1900Mhz 3G for use on AT&T once it comes out. However, I want to confirm that I can use the "dumbphone" unlimited data plan (which is $15 or $10 for families) instead of the regular, overpriced, capped smartphone plans. I do this currently on my Motorola Milestone so I want to make sure it works okay with the Desire. Can anyone on AT&T confirm this for me?

... nobody on AT&T will be able to confirm this with you because not even Canadians have this phone yet. But if they don't know the Milestone IMEI they probably won't know the Telus Desire IMEI.

Right, I know it's not out yet but I was more looking for someone with the regular Desire on AT&T who could tell me. (I'm figuring AT&T will treat all Desires the same way)

The imei is not registered with ATT. Therefore you can have as I do a 10 or 15 dollar data for quick messaging phones and standard flips.
You will have 3g wherever there is 850 mhz 3g. TElstra desire does not have 1900 mhz 3g, but ATT will have the entire network on 850 mhz 3g by end of the year.
What state are you in?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

mayad79 said:
The imei is not registered with ATT. Therefore you can have as I do a 10 or 15 dollar data for quick messaging phones and standard flips.
You will have 3g wherever there is 850 mhz 3g. TElstra desire does not have 1900 mhz 3g, but ATT will have the entire network on 850 mhz 3g by end of the year.
What state are you in?
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Correct, the Telstra (Australia) Desire is UMTS 850/2100. But the upcoming Telus (Canada) Desire is UMTS 850/1900.

Thanks for the info, I'm glad to hear that. I'm probably going to wait for the Telus model so I get full 850/1900 and I think I like the idea of the SLCD better than the AMOLED for outdoor use. And the off-contract price for the Telus Desire is rumored to be only $450, hopefully that's true Now they just need to launch the darn thing!

cmstlist said:
... nobody on AT&T will be able to confirm this with you because not even Canadians have this phone yet. But if they don't know the Milestone IMEI they probably won't know the Telus Desire IMEI.
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How did AT&T get the Nexus ONE IMEIs if they don't carry it. Is HTC handling them over?...

I assume the N1 is a special case... and it was released in the US.

The regular Desire won't work on 3g in the US uses different frequencies for 3g, so you have to wait for the North American version to come out. That's why people are saying that no one has one on AT&T

Bomaster said:
The regular Desire won't work on 3g in the US uses different frequencies for 3g, so you have to wait for the North American version to come out. That's why people are saying that no one has one on AT&T
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The Telus Desire is already out and that *is* the North American version.

Using an Australian Phone On AT&T?

Hey Guys,
So I was trying to think, but I couldn't remember which carrier it was, but I'm almost positive that one of the Australian carriers uses the same 3g bands (HSDPA 850 and 1900) that AT&T uses, meaning you could import one of the phones heading toward that carrier in australia and use it on AT&T. I was thinking about doing this for WP7, but i completely forgot what carrier it is.
Does anyone know?

Telstra.
I've used a Telstra-branded HD2 and Desire (Android) on AT&T in the US, no problem.
I'm hoping Telstra picks up the Desire HD and the HD7 as well...because AT&T's WP7 phones are kinda sorry (nothing > 3.8").

It's Telstra. Only the 850 band is supported. I have an Australian 9193 HD2 and it works fine on At&t. I guess it depends if your area has 850 band nearby.

FYI their HD7 won't be out till next year.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20101012/australian-pricing-options-for-windows-phone-7/

Are you guys sure? I was looking at the Mozart page on Telstra and it's doesn't say that the 850 hsdpa band is supported.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#detail=1573&filter=166

matthewf01 said:
Telstra.
I've used a Telstra-branded HD2 and Desire (Android) on AT&T in the US, no problem.
I'm hoping Telstra picks up the Desire HD and the HD7 as well...because AT&T's WP7 phones are kinda sorry (nothing > 3.8").
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The Focus is 4". Idk if you were just talking about HTC or not

http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/10/12/windows-phone-7-a-new-challenger-arrives/
This says it is 850 band here

FSB said:
http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/10/12/windows-phone-7-a-new-challenger-arrives/
This says it is 850 band here
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Thanks! HTC & Microsoft must be using the global specs. So basically what this means is Mozart and HD7 for AT&T!! I'm pumped as hell now

Will hopefully have a Telstra one in the next week or two, will confirm when I have it.

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Will hopefully have a Telstra one in the next week or two, will confirm when I have it.
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Which one are you getting? The Mozart? I'm stuck between the Surround directly from AT&T or waiting for the HD7 on Telstra. I just have no idea when it's actually going to come out...

djcaston said:
Which one are you getting? The Mozart? I'm stuck between the Surround directly from AT&T or waiting for the HD7 on Telstra. I just have no idea when it's actually going to come out...
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I'm having this same predicament also. Though I can afford it, getting an HD7 through telstra will be around $800 or more...whereas I could just get the surround for retail value since I am not extending my contract with ATT.

I have my Mozart
WP7 is very different there is no way, that I can find, to look at the band it is using.
It is very fast and I'm liking it.

FSB said:
I have my Mozart
WP7 is very different there is no way, that I can find, to look at the band it is using.
It is very fast and I'm liking it.
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It can only use the 850mhz band and 2100mhz. If you want NextG you'll need the 850mhz band (AT&T's). I can guarantee the Telstra HTC Mozart uses that.

Any updates on HD7 on At&t? Perhaps an unbranded one or tmobile. Data and 3g?

aethelbert said:
It can only use the 850mhz band and 2100mhz. If you want NextG you'll need the 850mhz band (AT&T's). I can guarantee the Telstra HTC Mozart uses that.
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Above is 100% true
850MHz & 2100MHz at minimum.
Optus uses 900MHz and 2100MHz
Unsure about the other carriers, but its likely 900/2100 also (i think Telstra is the odd one out here)

Sorry for revive the old thead; buy if someone is looking for a at&t-compatible device, (with UMTS850/1900), more than at&t "native" devices; please check:
http://bit.ly/mejores_equipos_latinoamerica
Best regards

For those one on T-Mobile/wind Mobile/Mobilicity users...

The AT&T or Rogers LTE Version of HTC ONE X has HSPA support on AWS&2100
(looks like lots ppl may not know this)
So AT&T one x works on T-Mo 3G network (wow~) Tegra FAIL!
and one more... The AT&T LTE version is originally called One XL (but now they call it X since idk)
Moreover, AT&T version looks like 549.99USD (Rogers version is $629CAD+tax)

It still won't have the 1700 band.

ytwytw said:
The AT&T or Rogers LTE Version of HTC ONE X has HSPA support on AWS&2100
(looks like lots ppl may not know this)
So AT&T one x works on T-Mo 3G network (wow~) Tegra FAIL!
and one more... The AT&T LTE version is originally called One XL (but now they call it X since idk)
Moreover, AT&T version looks like 549.99USD (Rogers version is $629CAD+tax)
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This has been discussed to death. The official HTC Asia page says the AT&T phone (by name) doesn't support AWS for HSPA. The LTE radio does but it won't work for HSPA. Do you have a link to share where someone has shown a Speed Test getting HSPA/HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile U.S. with either a Rogers or AT&T One X? Until someone posts that this isn't confirmed and based on the published specs it probably won't be.
From HTC Asia:
HSPA/WCDMA:
•ATT: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
•ATT: B4/B17
•Asia/AUS: 1800/2600 MHz
From the Rogers site:
GSM Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
HSPA Bands: 850/1900/2100
LTE Bands: 700/1700/2100
From the AT&T site:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G/UMTS - 850/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE - Band 4 and 17

http://www.htc.com/ca/products/htconex-rogers#tech-specs
Network
LTE CAT3 - DL 100 /UL 50
LTE: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
Clearly says AWS/2100 is on the list, also 850/1900
I'm getting it this coming weekend, so I will try
And some ppl on the XL forum says Rogers has 1700 hspa clearly written on the box,
It could be a software lockdown, Same as i717...
EDIT: Just saying on Rogers site, Nokia Lumia 7100 doesnt have 1700 listed on there either, but after unlocking, it works perfectly on Wind, so idk

HSPA might work base on spec
If you look at the Samsung Galaxy Nexus's spec, the 1700/2100 HSDPA is listed as "3G". I am using the international version with T-mobile and I am getting around 7mbps. This is definitely faster than 3G speed. Looking at the spec for one x, HSDPA 1700/2100 is listed as 3G also just like the Galaxy Nexus. Wouldn't this mean it would work with T-Mobile's so called "4G" HSPA?

ytwytw said:
The AT&T or Rogers LTE Version of HTC ONE X has HSPA support on AWS&2100
(looks like lots ppl may not know this)
So AT&T one x works on T-Mo 3G network (wow~) Tegra FAIL!
and one more... The AT&T LTE version is originally called One XL (but now they call it X since idk)
Moreover, AT&T version looks like 549.99USD (Rogers version is $629CAD+tax)
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The bands supported by the device has **nothing whatsoever** to do with the Tegra SoC, since the vendor uses a discreet modem with the Tegra 3 version of the One X anyway.

ytwytw said:
Same as i717...
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If this is true, than the weak signal strength and heavier battery drain are likely to occur just like they did on the G-Note. It'll be interesting to see how (and if) the One XL performs.

AT&T vs International bands
According GSM arena the AT&T version will support 3G 1700/2100 which is what Tmobile uses for its H+ network...so if you unlock the at&t version, it should be able to run on Tmo's "4G" right out the box without any needs to flash radios or what not right?
Here's the link to a comparison: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4614&idPhone2=4320

Is it possible to flash a t-Mobile modem or tweek the one x to get faster speeds
Sent from T-Mobile's galaxy S II running ICS

Hello friend, I too am interested in getting the One X (international 32 Gig version preferred) but would consider AT&T's version. I was able to click around AT&T's website and I could not find where it actually stated 1700/2100 AWS however, it does say this:
"4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ (with enhanced backhaul) or LTE, where available" "4G LTE Band 4 and 17" -
And this:
"3G - UMTS850/1900/2100 MHz"
Link to AT&T's site:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_sku=sku5980268#fbid=n77DzSAk3I2
T Mobile has confirmed the reframing/refarming of 1900 from 2g to 3g but stated it was slow process (slower than Edge? lol).
Really want the One X...

atvxda said:
Hello friend, I too am interested in getting the One X (international 32 Gig version preferred) but would consider AT&T's version. I was able to click around AT&T's website and I could not find where it actually stated 1700/2100 AWS however, it does say this:
"4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ (with enhanced backhaul) or LTE, where available" "4G LTE Band 4 and 17" -
And this:
"3G - UMTS850/1900/2100 MHz"
Link to AT&T's site:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_sku=sku5980268#fbid=n77DzSAk3I2
T Mobile has confirmed the reframing/refarming of 1900 from 2g to 3g but stated it was slow process (slower than Edge? lol).
Really want the One X...
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Take the example of Lumia 710
It is a pentaband phone (850/900/1700/1900/2100) but on Rogers site it says only 850/1900/2100,
But after unlock, this phone works on Wind Mobile (same as 3G T-Mobile)
So hope to get this phone on hand ASAP, so I can try...

ytwytw said:
So hope to get this phone on hand ASAP, so I can try...
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It doesn't work, at least out of the box, on the XL. It uses a different radio though so the international version could behave differently.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...TC-One-X-work-on-Wind?p=14788508#post14788508

ytwytw said:
Take the example of Lumia 710
It is a pentaband phone (850/900/1700/1900/2100) but on Rogers site it says only 850/1900/2100,
But after unlock, this phone works on Wind Mobile (same as 3G T-Mobile)
So hope to get this phone on hand ASAP, so I can try...
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Great info. As a T MoUSA customer, I will be periodically checking out Wind's site for phones, lol.
I guess I'll keep checking XDA to determine which One X I'll be buying in the next couple of weeks...

atvxda said:
Great info. As a T MoUSA customer, I will be periodically checking out Wind's site for phones, lol.
I guess I'll keep checking XDA to determine which One X I'll be buying in the next couple of weeks...
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This...
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...TC-One-X-work-on-Wind?p=14788508#post14788508
Confirms this isn't true...
ytwytw said:
It is a pentaband phone (850/900/1700/1900/2100) but on Rogers site it says only 850/1900/2100,
But after unlock, this phone works on Wind Mobile (same as 3G T-Mobile)
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There's a thread on the One XL forum you can follow. They're trying to come up with some sort of hack to try and make it work.

BarryH_GEG said:
This...
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...TC-One-X-work-on-Wind?p=14788508#post14788508
Confirms this isn't true...
There's a thread on the One XL forum you can follow. They're trying to come up with some sort of hack to try and make it work.
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http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...TC-One-X-work-on-Wind?p=14791010#post14791010
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323&page=3
Confirmed, it's true,
HTC says YES to AWS (Wcdma/HspA)

ytwytw said:
Confirmed, it's true,
HTC says YES to AWS (Wcdma/HspA)
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You have to be clear though. Out of the box, neither phone is going to get 3G data on an AWS carrier (T-Mobile, Wind). If you guys come up with a hack, people are going to have to root their phones and flash a new radio. A lot of people will be fine with it, some, especially novices, won't. And the hack for the G-Note gets the job done but you lose some signal and battery life in the process. Until it's running on someone's XL (and well) it's a little early to claim victory. I hope it works out for you guys.

T-Mobile AWS needs 1700 AND 2100 bands. It won't work with only one, so if you don't have both, you don't have T-Mobile 3G.
Not only that, if it comes down to simply being a radio flash you NEED S-OFF to flash a radio. An RUU won't work because there is no version of the X that supports T-Mobile frequencies.

I was today That by this summer in my area the iPhone will be able to get 3g and hopefully it's the bands we to make it work on the one x
Sent from T-Mobile's galaxy S II running ICS
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The iPhone has the same network bands as of the one x. Now we wait on TMO to update.

hopefully t-mobile gets this done by july. I'll be out of Army Basic training and will have money to spend on a International HTC One X beast lol... I currently have AT&T now. I was converted to a Radioshack AT&T employee plan a few months ago which changed my data plan from 2GB to Unlimited data which was freakin amazing even tho i only used between 1.5GB - 3GB of Data. Since i quit Radioshack bcuz im about to ship to boot camp, they gotta convert it back to a consumer plan (3GB data plan :-/) Idk what to do. If i come back from boot camp and ppl report that the AWS refarming rollout is actively in progress, im ditching AT&T and coming back to T-Mobile with a Tegra 3 One X. ( 6Mbits/sec is lightning fast enough for me to support playing Call of Duty on Xbox Live anyway. Ive done it on a T-Mobile Vibrant before.

Lantek23 said:
I was today That by this summer in my area the iPhone will be able to get 3g and hopefully it's the bands we to make it work on the one x
Sent from T-Mobile's galaxy S II running ICS
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The iPhone has the same network bands as of the one x. Now we wait on TMO to update.
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one, ill be keeping it no matter what but it will be a lot easier if it had some speed away from WiFi. Where did you get the info on the iPhone being able to get 3g? I'd like to find some info on my area,Tucson AZ.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium