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Running Windows Mobile on iPhone...it needs to be done!!!

so i was looking at the many iphone knock offs and personally i am not impressed with the hardware, but as i am a pc and not a mac i will never ever use the Mac OSX operating system without an overwhelming feeling of shame as though i have just cheated on my wife; not that i have and would know what that feels like but you get my drift.
my point is gentlemen that we need to collect our talents and intelligence and move toward a break through in modding. I am currently running SNN Lite Edition and am very pleased with it. Upon exploring the OS, i realized that there exist the possibility to expand upon this work and take it to new heights.
to begin with as i said earlier i am running WM6.1 SNN Lite edition, 3rd party apps include SPB Mobile Shell II, Wisbar Advance 3, Advance Config, Network Wizard, Resco Explorer and Photo Viewer, among others. The only 2 of the apps that i mention that have anything to do with what we are and will be discussing are WisBar Advance 3 and SPC MS II.
take a look at the following screen shots, photoshoped so dnt ask me for the ROM i haven't created it...heck i wouldn't even know where to start;
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i mean all we're really talking about here is a mobile version of bootcamp or something to the effect of creating partitions on the iphone hard-drive and then booting into the windows mobile and delete the iphone rom or better yet since one would have to spend so much on buying the device then one could have both OS's running...choosing to booting into one or the other.
But again i wuldnt know where to start so if any of you genii could figure out how to do this then i can assure you, you would go down in modding history.

jus for the hell of it, someone in Development and Hacking started a thread entitled "MUST SEE" about how he found an "iPhone" that runs both the iPhone rom and WM6

it's definitely some kind of chinese iClone obviously.
i suppose the problem here would be drivers for the screen.
also, a whole bunch of the features wouldn't work out that well(visual voicemail, accelerometer)

The only real upside I see is the hardware and that is only until the new devices like the Xperia1 come out.
For pure geek factor I will admit that it would be the bee's knee's though.

So...
Any one seriously consider tackling this on? I wish I had the knowledge to do it, because I would in a HEARTBEAT.
EDIT: Anyone see this yet? Thoughts?
http://solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=1364&page=1

actually it's an iphone...i simply photoshoped screenshots of my phone onto it. i'm running WM6.1 the screen ou see there is Dredd's mobile shell theme for mobile shell 2 and of course the taskbar is vista pocket 2 running on wisbar advance 3...and a WMP11 skin.
but you see my point here...however you want to customize your windows mobile device you can...which you cant do with an iphone...

lemme drop some research some you:
Partioning/Dual-Booting the iphone http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/03/12/dual-booting-the-iphone/
Jailbreaking the easy way:
http://www.ziphone.org/
iphone to have dual-core processor
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/04/23/a-powerpc-in-your-iphone/

dang this iclones seem 2 have better thing than the iphone i mean dual simcard slots,cameras and bluetooth, and running wm6... apple should take some notes...

impossible
Running windows mobile/windowsCE is completely impossible from a end user/hacker point of view for the iphone let alone ANY device that does not run WM/CE. it all comes down to drivers, and the developers(like HTC, Gigabyte...) makes them.
You have to understand each WM ROM is custom made for each device by manufacturers. WM/CE is fully componentised from ground up right down to including keyboard support, so only minimal drivers are included in the ROM to make it small.
So unless you can do programming in low level(010010101010) and have complete access to hardware and chip design then it is impossible to have it boot WM natively.
btw, we are hackers(or some of us are), and we *might* be able to make a device emulator and just emulate WM/CE like on the PC. of course, currently thats next to nothing - as we need an opensource/free emulator for WM/CE that does not exist.
the only way to make it real and feasible is VNC. They did the same thing with Android-on-WM(and i think it works great).

the screen resolution of the iphone is absolute incompatible.

New Rhodium (Not Touch Pro 2)

So I noticed this article, basically, it comes with windows mobile 7 and supports both EVDO and HSPDA, it supposedly has a different chipset to. It's obviously going to cost more to. Can anyone tell me if this is worth waiting for?
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3664

Windows Mobile 7 isn't developed yet. Microsoft just finished 6.5.
So I think it will take some time untils Microsoft will realease WM 7....

yea it says not at least until quarter 3 the phone will be released

The slides were leaked in march, but there's no indication of when they were MADE. It's entirely possible that it is the Touch Pro2 we know and love, but that things have changed since the slides were made and/or the early product slides contained some errors (as was the case with some ATT slides on the HTC fortress).
I wouldn't consider waiting for it until I knew for sure that it existed. With that said, I assume Windows 7 is the selling point for you. Personally, I never like getting an OS brand new. Too many growing pains. I let other people adopt it first, iron out all the wrinkles, and then 12 months later, once they're done paying extra for the privilege of beta testing I get the finished stable product for less.
Everybody's different, and especially if there's a specific feature in a new OS someone can't live with out, it might be worth the hassle of early adoption. But I would encourage people to not automatically assume the newest version will be the best for their needs.

Where do you get the Idea, it's not the rhodium? I don't see much of a diffrence. I've seen this pics before and at that moment they did represent the touch pro 2.

It's probably a typo.
Probably should read 6.x, possibly .x as it'll be either 6.1 or 6.5

quarintus said:
Where do you get the Idea, it's not the rhodium? I don't see much of a diffrence.
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3.4" screen, winmo 7. Chipset looks like "7600", although it is scrunched a bit. @Phil, I don't think we're looking at typos so much as early/sketchy drawing board specs. If this sheet were made last year before OS delays, windows mobile 7 might have seemed doable.

fortunz said:
3.4" screen, winmo 7. Chipset looks like "7600", although it is scrunched a bit. @Phil, I don't think we're looking at typos so much as early/sketchy drawing board specs. If this sheet were made last year before OS delays, windows mobile 7 might have seemed doable.
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I think your probably right actually, it's probably an old spec sheet.
Considering HTC are probably working internally on devices that they plan to release in the next few years, have them completed at least several months before release (time to test/finalise specs/release to manufacturing) and probably announce them to networks way before we find out about them so there is time to negotiate sales contracts etc chances are that's all this is.

That's the Sprint version of the Touch Pro 2. It's based off of the Rhodium nomenclature but is built differently. Also Windows Mobile 7 has been taken off in favor of 6.1 upgradeable to 6.5. The device is EVDO Rev A and HSDPA for 2100 and 900 bands only which means only usable in Europe and Asia. As far as I know, it's still sporting a 3.6" WVGA screen since the size is almost the same as the current GSM Touch Pro 2 except slightly thicker. This is actually pretty old news. HTC has a separate code name for this one except I have to take a look at the presentation I have somewhere in my files.

the device does exist, here are the device infomation taken from my device:
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I think this is the touch pro 2, just an old document that is now outdated, I doubt that they would make two phones with the same code name, and also the phone in the picture looks like the touch pro 2 but has a smaller screen and less ram so in some ways it seems worse than the touch pro 2, so if ti is a real phone i would say no

HD2 will have Windows Phone 7 Series OS

Forward to 6:51:30 and watch the ladie hand raied to her Ear @ 6:51:38
HTC HD2 .....YEP !!! there it is !!!
http://www.studiosevent.com/newscen...&height=360&color=FF5500&width=400&height=224

does look alot like it...

ragdoll20 said:
does look alot like it...
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becuase it is.
there is no phone out there with that look
its now a waiting game from microsoft....I hope they hurry up.

vardig said:
becuase it is.
there is no phone out there with that look
its now a waiting game from microsoft....I hope they hurry up.
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No it isnt that is the demo phone that was used in the press event. It only has three hardware buttons at the bottom. The HD2 has 5 buttons.

If this is HD2 > leaked roms soon

I hate to break it to you guys but i very much doubt that they would have gone to all the trouble covering up the HD2 if they were going to release it for the HD2, it is almost definitely a prop

this isnt the HD2... watched the scene 10 times, its the prototype
from before!

Clearly not a HD2
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Guys... you don't get it... there are two different phones there, one IS the HD2, the other one is that prototype.
Yes, the HD2 is in that video. But no, at no point is it shown running WP7.

Please provide a picture where the hd2 is shown in this video...
there is no hd2 i can see...

don_sefer said:
Please provide a picture where the hd2 is shown in this video...
there is no hd2 i can see...
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There is... look at this:
This is the HD2. But it's NOT shown running WP7. Thus, this video proves nothing.

watched this f*cking scene 20times now... damn
thanks for your picture now I believe xD

freyberry said:
There is... look at this:
This is the HD2. But it's NOT shown running WP7. Thus, this video proves nothing.
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Frey, you are sharp.....haha

freyberry said:
There is... look at this:
This is the HD2. But it's NOT shown running WP7. Thus, this video proves nothing.
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Could be an easter egg slipping in...you never know

freyberry said:
There is... look at this:
This is the HD2. But it's NOT shown running WP7. Thus, this video proves nothing.
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@freyberry it is not blue after all

The front is grey, this is not the HTC HD2. And this phone on the picture has corners too round compared to the HD2

Even thou its an HD2 it doesnt mean a ****. So what if Microsoft is using the HD2 for WinPhone 7 commercial? They used the hell out of the Touch Diamond to promote WM 6.5 but we never saw it coming officially.
And porting, how do you guys know its as "easy" as before. Cab files and roms:s?

bigx86 said:
Even thou its an HD2 it doesnt mean a ****. So what if Microsoft is using the HD2 for WinPhone 7 commercial? They used the hell out of the Touch Diamond to promote WM 6.5 but we never saw it coming officially.
And porting, how do you guys know its as "easy" as before. Cab files and roms:s?
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First Sensible Comment in this thread.

No search button no 7
title says it all

And hypothetically: IF there is a prototype that runs Windows Phone 7 and looks like the HD2, it does not mean that it shares the same internal hardware. HTC might provide a prototype based on the HD2 with different hardware specifications (faster/other CPU, different graphics processor, more internal storage, ...).
However, I think the best explanation is that Microsoft uses the HD2 in a commercial without it running Windows Phone 7.

I won a WP7 phone!!!

Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.

WTH? Congratulations!!

cool can i have it?

Congrats!.........

Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.

niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!

Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .

Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release

cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.

RustyGrom said:
After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
RustyGrom said:
Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?

vangrieg said:
Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.

nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...

Pics or it didn't happen!

Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.

Don't wanna say much but watch this guy!

I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp

Well, I can't take a quy serious who calls it Windows Mobile 8 and this vid is also quite heavily biased. And you will also quickly notice his main interest: good hardware specs.

I couldn't even get past the the first 40 seconds.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2

Cant believe you made me click on that link and add to his view counts!

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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I want to thank you SO MUCH for this link, that clicking on the THANKS button IS NOT ENOUGH!:laugh:

"Windows Mobile 8"
wtf...
he also says that only "Windows Mobile 8" devices are gonna be able to acces gmail... wtf

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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Lolz, 40 secs wasted on my life~ XD

That dumbass deleted my comments...
u__u

Thanks for the lulz xD

What a moron, he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
Android fanboy.

This guy is a complete idiot! Waste of my time especially with the Windows Mobile reference and the Gmail app piece. And he says Windows Mobile never compared to Android. It's because Android wasn't around when it came out. And they minimized Windows onto a phone in like 2000...Windows Mobile:laugh:

I managed to get a good 3min out of that before his voice and general lack of any intelligence what so ever got the better of me, forcing me to try stab my screen with a pitch folk when ever he opened his month.
I am amazed that such inbreeding still goes on in western countries, which surely must be the only reason for such a mentally challenged presenter.
Ill happily list anyone valid pros and cons of any device and remain completely objective whilst doing it AND putting aside that WP suites my needs best, why cant people who put them selves in that position at least attempt to be impartial?!
unless of course that was his sole aim!
To get all clear thinking people flapping about him being a complete nob.
In which case my friend, you have exceled yourself

I was waiting for him to start signing the Barbie Girl song.

renatofontes said:
That dumbass deleted my comments...
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He deleted both of my comments too.

he is funny,total android fanboy.
first he cry about wp7 phones that can't be updated to wp8 (that is actually a bummer) and hoe stupid MS is
and about 5 min later he cry's about 10 min long how bad verison is that he can't get ics on his phones
F*****ing nope if you ask me , they actually sould ban him from the internet and take away all phones he has , give him a brick to use for calling

Getting him an Aligator would be enough
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for those who are not familiar with it

This guy is clearly tripping on something. I found this video hilarious.

I watched about 40 seconds, wrote a vile reply that most likely will be erased and left. It hurt to watch that bull****.

He needs a Kleenex.

With everyone trying to sit through it, I decided to as well. Horrible presenter - not much in the way of facts or information, he just 'feels bad' about Win8. All I could think throughout the time I could stand was CAGE MATCH!!! Let's see how this fanboi stands up to a WP fanboi... err, whatever we call General the Destroyer [FONT=&quot]http://www.youtube.com/user/generalthedestroyer
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