For the people that wanted to know if you can disable HTC Sense on the Desire, or just wanted to know how to do it:
Here is a short demonstration of how to disable HTC Sense on a Desire.
It's nice to know this is possible. IMO the stock version (Nexus One look) also has some nice benefits.
Sorry if this was already posted
thanks....
this what i needed to make my decision....
defintally a desire
thanks that what i was looking for..
so excited about getting the Desire...
But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
gogol said:
But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
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All Sense on Android is, is a few apps.
The main one being the Launcher which you can disable as seen in that video.
There's then the Messaging and Dialler apps which you can replace with stock apps (without being rooted).
That's about it apart from the fact you'd be left with a Black notification tray instead of a White one and a far superior lock screen.
gogol said:
But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
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IMO, i dont think someone would disable the Sense (maybe just to see how the plain Nexus One looks like ).
and we have 576 MB RAM; I dont think we should worry about "apps that run in the background"
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But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
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Jup I found out that even if you disable Sense, tbere will still be some 'behind the scenes' Sense stuff going on. Like for example, Stock 2.1 only supports 5 homescreens instead of 7.
So if you REALLY want the fast Stock 2.1 experience, disable Sense is not enough. You will have to put a real stock 2.1 ROM on it, or how it is called.
Anyway, most people probably wont have any problems with this.
Speaking of stock 2.1 rom being faster than the one with Sense UI.
How much faster is it? Is it very noticeable?
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Jup I found out that even if you disable Sense, tbere will still be some 'behind the scenes' Sense stuff going on. Like for example, Stock 2.1 only supports 5 homescreens instead of 7.
So if you REALLY want the fast Stock 2.1 experience, disable Sense is not enough. You will have to put a real stock 2.1 ROM on it, or how it is called.
Anyway, most people probably wont have any problems with this.
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Keeping the HTC framework will be to the owner's advantage, some of the HTC apps that don't run on a stock Android rom will then work properly.
a stupid question....can i put manila on the desire?? and then....it's android similar to windows mobile?? there's a cab for everything?
exscuse me for stupid questions but i have a topaz and i'm thinking about take a desire!
mikawa said:
a stupid question....can i put manila on the desire?? and then....it's android similar to windows mobile?? there's a cab for everything?
exscuse me for stupid questions but i have a topaz and i'm thinking about take a desire!
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The contents of each tab in Manila are available as widgets in Android and they're far more customizable. There's really no reason to have Manila on Android.
nm... it was shown in the video @ the OP.
XDA mark said:
Jup I found out that even if you disable Sense, tbere will still be some 'behind the scenes' Sense stuff going on. Like for example, Stock 2.1 only supports 5 homescreens instead of 7.
So if you REALLY want the fast Stock 2.1 experience, disable Sense is not enough. You will have to put a real stock 2.1 ROM on it, or how it is called.
Anyway, most people probably wont have any problems with this.
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When / If it gets rooted and vanilla 2.1 gets ported to it, I am going to always have a Nandroid backup of a version with SenseUI and a Nandroid backup of Vanilla 2.1 Android so I can swap between them as and when I want.
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Speaking of stock 2.1 rom being faster than the one with Sense UI.
How much faster is it? Is it very noticeable?
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From what I have seen, the difference is almost not even noticeable. But then again all the Desire video's I have seen are after it has just been turned on. Maybe the Sense UI will cause some lag after a while of using.
Anyway, Stock 2.1 HAS to be faster, that is a fact. 2 homescreens less, no Sense stuff running in the background, etc.
If I would turn off Sense UI, I would not do it for the speed improvement btw. I like the look of 2.1, with that 5 homescreens and the way to switch between them.
Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
vegetaleb said:
Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
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And the Desire has extra RAM to accommodate SenseUI.
vegetaleb said:
Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
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Well, when I finally got my long awaited HTC TyTn, I asked on a forum if anyone knew if there were any possibility to overclock the CPU....
The only answer I got back then was : "..There's no need to overclock the TyTn, the CPU is a 400 mhz!!"
But now, I'm sitting here, stuck with my sloooow TyTn (after selling my Hero to earn money for a new Desire)
So...I guess we can always need some more power, just wait some months and the apps and games are demanding more than enough for the Snapdragon CPU....and you need to swallow a camel or two
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Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
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Yeah, sure it's a 1Ghz processor. But my HD2 has it and it still lags.
So I will take all the extra speed I can get for perfect performance
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Yeah, sure it's a 1Ghz processor. But my HD2 has it and it still lags.
So I will take all the extra speed I can get for perfect performance
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You can argue that on the HD2 it's down to the OS/custom ROMs that it still 'lags'. My brother has the a stock T-mobile ROM on his device and I fail to see any lag.
brummiesteven said:
That's about it apart from the fact you'd be left with a Black notification tray instead of a White one and a far superior lock screen.
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The better lock screen you're talking about, is that after disabling Sense? Which lock screen would that be, and what lock screen does the alternative have? And I always thought there were several lock screens to choose from - I've seen one where you make a pattern, one where you just flick the lock screen down, one where you "turn a wheel", and possibly some others, can't remember.
That's a lot of "lock screen" for one post
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Hi!I just installed Android 2.0.1 on my Diamond with no problems at all(although the battery drains damn fast,camera and bluetooth kissed us goodbyes and GPS...wrong!)!
However,having used the Hero for a while now(I have both),I miss the Sense UI.I know I might be asking for a little too much,as it is still under development,but is there any way I can find an Android build with Sense?
Thanks in advance!
tolis626 said:
Hi!I just installed Android 2.0.1 on my Diamond with no problems at all(although the battery drains damn fast,camera and bluetooth kissed us goodbyes and GPS...wrong!)!
However,having used the Hero for a while now(I have both),I miss the Sense UI.I know I might be asking for a little too much,as it is still under development,but is there any way I can find an Android build with Sense?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi
Sense isn't gonna be on the diamond for a while yet, check the main thread
If you used search, you would of found that out, please don't just make a new thread for everything
Badwolve1
has anyone had a look at THIS..i think if touch hd n rapheal can have it, we can also ( i got to the boot screen which kept looping at a lower res)
Do keep in mind that the diamonds RAM is a lot lower and the ram usage in android is not very good with the current builds..
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has anyone had a look at THIS..i think if touch hd n rapheal can have it, we can also ( i got to the boot screen which kept looping at a lower res)
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Did you try the SensePack for Android?
Yeah,RAM is IMO the worst aspect of the diamond...192?What is that?That's not only an android problem!WinMo also has issues with lack of RAM,especially 6.5!
And btw the reason why I created this thread was that I couldn't find a satisfying answer to my question!
Anyway,I tried aHome Lite(full version and GDE are paid and currently not available here in Greece) and it crashed like ****.It only popped the well known message that the process ahome.blah blah blah is not responding.
A question I'd like to ask is whether it actually runs ON WinMo or is WinMo closing before Android boots?Anyway the ****ty amount of RAM makes it annoying whatever the case is!
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has anyone had a look at THIS..i think if touch hd n rapheal can have it, we can also ( i got to the boot screen which kept looping at a lower res)
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I got to the main screen of Sense Hero..
1 - changed startup.txt : mtype to 1805
2 - i took the zimage from latest eclair (Keep the same if you want to)
3 - while booting it got stuck to HTC shiny screen so i deleted the Swapfile and tried...it booted up but PATIENCE is what we need. it takes a longtime and too much of Lag.
lets keep trying it...Best of luck!
There are android phones with the same amount of ram as the diamond (ie. galaxy/spica). So it should do fine but the build is just an early alpha . Patience patience..
Nickschot I hope you're right!It's such a nice phone!Why would it get stuck with WinMo 6.1(because 6.5 isn't it's thing) and get no attention?
Anyway...Will try Sensepack...Be back for report!
Well...First off it's laggy and buggy as **** and using it really needs patience!However as I see that's because of Sense...Is there any way to disable it?It appears to be working better than bare android...
salim1001 said:
I got to the main screen of Sense Hero..
1 - changed startup.txt : mtype to 1805
2 - i took the zimage from latest eclair (Keep the same if you want to)
3 - while booting it got stuck to HTC shiny screen so i deleted the Swapfile and tried...it booted up but PATIENCE is what we need. it takes a longtime and too much of Lag.
lets keep trying it...Best of luck!
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the swapfile get recreated every time i try to boot haret n my sensepack always get stuck at the hero bootscreen, n u having it in fullscreen??
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the swapfile get recreated every time i try to boot haret n my sensepack always get stuck at the hero bootscreen, n u having it in fullscreen??
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Yes Data and sensepack gets created .... Yes it came in as a fullscreen but it was too laggy so decided to put a hold on to it...will stick to Android Eclair testing as of now...
I suppose I too will stick with Eclair(vanilla) cause sense messes things up really much...Right now,except for unbearable lagging and countless bugs Sense doesn't support fullscreen so you have to turn it off,Wi-Fi doesn't work(unlike vanilla Eclair which has a pretty much normal connection) and many things cause Android to reset.So I came to think...Android is really nice and functional without Sense!
However,is there any way to port Hero's look to the diamond?Without Sense crap.As long as the device is recognised as the Hero it seems to work better,more smoothly and fluid...Plus I love the black menus!
tolis626 said:
I suppose I too will stick with Eclair(vanilla) cause sense messes things up really much...Right now,except for unbearable lagging and countless bugs Sense doesn't support fullscreen so you have to turn it off,Wi-Fi doesn't work(unlike vanilla Eclair which has a pretty much normal connection) and many things cause Android to reset.So I came to think...Android is really nice and functional without Sense!
However,is there any way to port Hero's look to the diamond?Without Sense crap.As long as the device is recognised as the Hero it seems to work better,more smoothly and fluid...Plus I love the black menus!
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Try Panda Home from Market Place and search for Hero Theme.....
Dude...I didn't know about panda home!It kicks ass!And it's really light!Less lag!And to think I was stuck with aHome Lite as my home replacement...Of course aHome full and GDE(?) must be better,however there are no paid apps available for Greece yet!
Ok so I use mainly 2.1 sense build running at 633mhz cpu speed, and have had no probs with SOD, or overheating whatsoever. I have read of people going 787mhz, and leads me to wonder, how much can the processor in our TP2's take? The reason I ask is because by overclocking in Android, I have experienced significant performance increase and little to no ill effect, and it looks like at some poin oc will be possible with Windows. I am hoping that oc will be key to making Windows run as smooth as it ought to, escpecially with the severely limited amount of ram these phones have. If oc makes the sense build run smooth enough to be used comfortably, I feel same is possible with Windows, but how fast is too fast ?
u mean me..lol. good question though. ;-) I've had no ill wffects or drawbacks
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Ok so I use mainly 2.1 sense build running at 633mhz cpu speed, and have had no probs with SOD, or overheating whatsoever. I have read of people going 787mhz, and leads me to wonder, how much can the processor in our TP2's take? The reason I ask is because by overclocking in Android, I have experienced significant performance increase and little to no ill effect, and it looks like at some poin oc will be possible with Windows. I am hoping that oc will be key to making Windows run as smooth as it ought to, escpecially with the severely limited amount of ram these phones have. If oc makes the sense build run smooth enough to be used comfortably, I feel same is possible with Windows, but how fast is too fast ?
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I believe demandarin got it up to ~760MHz with no ill effects, the only issue being if your phone goes to sleep, it'll freeze and you'll have to boot back into WinMo and run haret again. And as far as my testing goes, there isn't a significant hit to battery life.
Also, I'd recommend using the AOSP build (the one without Sense). I tried running the Sense build and it's much, much slower. I also hear you get less available RAM for Android use (and ATK reported this, too). Plus, with the overclock applied, the AOSP 2.1 build just *screams*.
With the battery fix in startup.txt (htc_battery_smem.fake=1 /if thats not it exactly its very close, you know which one I mean), I never get sleep of death. I know aosp is faster than the sense build, but sense runs pretty good for me at 633, and its so nice looking. I also have the sense build on my sd with sense disabled, I was going for basically a aosp build only with the sense build's 7 pages but it seems when you disable sense, you lose the 2 extra pages with it. I have had some freezes with sense due to apparently running it out of available ram, but anytime it does that, it just goes back to the klinux/htc bootscreen and starts right back up.
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With the battery fix in startup.txt (htc_battery_smem.fake=1 /if thats not it exactly its very close, you know which one I mean), I never get sleep of death. I know aosp is faster than the sense build, but sense runs pretty good for me at 633, and its so nice looking. I also have the sense build on my sd with sense disabled, I was going for basically a aosp build only with the sense build's 7 pages but it seems when you disable sense, you lose the 2 extra pages with it. I have had some freezes with sense due to apparently running it out of available ram, but anytime it does that, it just goes back to the klinux/htc bootscreen and starts right back up.
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If you want AOSP with more screens you should just use AOSP and get a different launcher. Sense is HORRIBLY slow, and even when you have it disabled that build is SUPER slow. I've got 110mb free RAM with AOSP running Launcher Pro without a buggy overclock (that really when you run benchmarks on the OC it doesnt help THAT much), and it blows that Sense build out of the water.
just to serve as a comparison: my tilt 2 running NRGZ28's latest titanium ROM I've only got 70 mb of free ram. Are you sure you have 110? that means your phone is only using about 40% of ram just sitting there. With WM6.5 and sense 2.5 I would hover around 65% after a fresh reboot and with titanium i am at about 60%....
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just to serve as a comparison: my tilt 2 running NRGZ28's latest titanium ROM I've only got 70 mb of free ram. Are you sure you have 110? that means your phone is only using about 40% of ram just sitting there. With WM6.5 and sense 2.5 I would hover around 65% after a fresh reboot and with titanium i am at about 60%....
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Yes, I'm sure. Linux leaves a much smaller footprint.
Reefermattness said:
Yes, I'm sure. Linux leaves a much smaller footprint.
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wow thats amazing.
Reefermattness said:
If you want AOSP with more screens you should just use AOSP and get a different launcher. Sense is HORRIBLY slow, and even when you have it disabled that build is SUPER slow. I've got 110mb free RAM with AOSP running Launcher Pro without a buggy overclock (that really when you run benchmarks on the OC it doesnt help THAT much), and it blows that Sense build out of the water.
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I have the prolauncher one on my sd too, just havent set it up yet. Thats my next one to do. I have 2.01, 2.1 aosp, sense, and 2.1sense with no sense.
I have a 16 gb card so I figured why not. I really like the way sense looks, but I didnt know it was that heavy. Thats cool kinda gives me motivation to mess with it, I was stallin on it cause I hate goin thru fixing the time again.
Hey is there some way to build into the droid utility app the option to choose which build you wanna run, I assume it could be done by naming the anboot folders to andboot1 ,andboot2, etc. and then pointing the droid utility to whichever one is chosen right ?
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I have the prolauncher one on my sd too, just havent set it up yet. Thats my next one to do. I have 2.01, 2.1 aosp, sense, and 2.1sense with no sense.
I have a 16 gb card so I figured why not. I really like the way sense looks, but I didnt know it was that heavy. Thats cool kinda gives me motivation to mess with it, I was stallin on it cause I hate goin thru fixing the time again.
Hey is there some way to build into the droid utility app the option to choose which build you wanna run, I assume it could be done by naming the anboot folders to andboot1 ,andboot2, etc. and then pointing the droid utility to whichever one is chosen right ?
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Yup, we have actually discussed an online XML database, which would allow the app lots more options. Me and Piet have a huge list of things we want to add already, we just need to actually get the motivation and time to do it.
With the battery fix in startup.txt (htc_battery_smem.fake=1 /if thats not it exactly its very close, you know which one I mean), I never get sleep of
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If you want AOSP with more screens you should just use AOSP and get a different launcher. Sense is HORRIBLY slow, and even when you have it disabled that build is SUPER slow. I've got 110mb free RAM with AOSP running Launcher Pro without a buggy overclock (that really when you run benchmarks on the OC it doesnt help THAT much), and it blows that Sense build out of the water.
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+f course the Aosp build runs great right out da box. But with the overclock, it screams. Did various tests to see how much of a difference in improvement. I don't just go by benchmarks. I look for real time application. ;-) live wallpapers stock move ok. With the overclock, they fly all over and off da screen. The UI is wayy faster and more responsive. Programs load up faster. Tested different games b4 and after. After the overclock, games ran at almost normal speeds, Since hardware 3d not completly wrkn. Ill eventually go bck to stock speeds further along in development of this build. I got an early start Reefer, 4:20, U Ready? ;-)
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anyone notice that the gsenor is off? when playing games that use the gsenor like labyrinth or doodle jump, its always slanted. I dont think its the calibration, because WM works well w/ the calibration...any info?
moto2000 said:
anyone notice that the gsenor is off? when playing games that use the gsenor like labyrinth or doodle jump, its always slanted. I dont think its the calibration, because WM works well w/ the calibration...any info?
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Yeah by like 90 degrees. I spent a little while last nite looking for a way to calibrate mine, but I got tired and gave up.
Anyone manage to overclock WITHOUT using htc_battery_smem.fake=1 and not have the SOD issue? even if it's not that much of an overclock?
Hi just about to to root my Desire - I wonder if anyone could tell me their favourite ROM with Sense UI included (I like it!)
bump! anyone? ... going to step in randomly in bit otherwise
I have Leedroid, it's pretty good, fast and stable and has apps2sd+ (for my the main reason to root and flash) but I dislike the duplication of many apps for which sense has an alternative (eg an android and htc dialer and phonebook) so you are confronted with a choice between these apps in many instances. I would choose teppic74's rom if I hadn't installed leedroid. That said it isn't annoying enough to go trough a a reinstall and setup of the phone, so I will stick with leedroid
I also tried Aurax-Sense but really didn't like the theme otherwise it seemed quite okay
Go for Aurex T-sense...Its the best,flawless and fast I have come across so far...
Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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That sounds good how do you replace a theme?
and what is the 'drag and drop' function? Thx!
i got leedroids rom dont seem to have a problem with it
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Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
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No actually it does not have a lot of memory for apps it gets full really fast, that's why everybody is using A2SD. Froyo has it's own A2SD but it's not as good as it can't install all apps to SD only those designed for it.
Personally I think it's a must.
I'm using the Alex-V 1.7 Rom, I like it as it is not too far off from an official Rom and has a couple tricks to save power. Now with S-OFF we can delete apps we dont want directly from the phone too so everything has become a lot easier.
pinky desire is also a stable one. with sense ui, no FC, and somehow long battery life. IMO. but it really depends on how you will use your phone. different people. different tastes. anyway you can try different roms. that's Android for you!
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Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
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Well for starters it misses the little indicator to show you on which homescreen you are and I didn't like the transparent notification bar, looked too messy with the background and I didn't like the exorbitant use of color in the notification icons, also too messy
btw I would also stay away from roms that undervolt/underclock it's generally bad for your battery life because the CPU is much more energy efficient when it can enter its sleepstate. Underclocking makes tasks take longer and prevent the cpu from sleeping
Thanks for the advice everyone some good tips there I guess I'll do a bit more reading and try one out! Alex, pinky, Leedroid - ok!
Hypothetically speaking, If someone wanted to put... oh lets say the Sense Gallery App and the Camera App onto the Cyanogenmod 6.1.1.. Hypthetically how would this be accomplished? Keeping in mind that the Copyright to HTC's Sense was not there and all
I don't think it would work due to the fact that the Sense gallery and camera apps need a sense framework in order to properly work. To awnser your question it would be a rm command and a push command (remove and replace).
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Guy above beat me to it... Pretty sure that is all bound to the framework
If you don't want sense there's always enom's ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860296
omarsalmin said:
If you don't want sense there's always enom's ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860296
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Save the extra settings app from that (the one with enomthers red devil icon) and then install that and it will take care of the libs.
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I guess i should have mentioned, I want the HTC Gallery and Camera from the Virtious ROM. I love the rom I just cant deal with me trying to turn it on and it having wake issues and all..
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I guess i should have mentioned, I want the HTC Gallery and Camera from the Virtious ROM. I love the rom I just cant deal with me trying to turn it on and it having wake issues and all..
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Virtuous is Sense. It won't work for the above reasons.
cpgifford said:
I guess i should have mentioned, I want the HTC Gallery and Camera from the Virtious ROM. I love the rom I just cant deal with me trying to turn it on and it having wake issues and all..
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Have you tried the latest kernel (virtuous-vision-v 1.0.5)? They're trying to squash this bug.
If you're still affected, create a screen-off (in Set CPU or CPUTuner) profile which throttles the CPU under 806mhz.
Enomther said in his ROM thread that he plans on eventually porting the sense camera, but there are a ton of things that need to be brought along with it in order for it to work.
Maybe once that's done, you could much easier remove it from Enoms ROM and put it into a CM ROM, resign it and flash.
IDK, just my 2 cents. Don't know if that'll work.
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Have you tried the latest kernel (virtuous-vision-v 1.0.5)? They're trying to squash this bug.
If you're still affected, create a screen-off (in Set CPU or CPUTuner) profile which throttles the CPU under 806mhz.
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Yes I have Tried both the new kernel and setcpu profile. Both are ineffective towards my phone, it becomes so that i have to do a battery pull just to get my screen back on.... That's not always so easy when you have an otterbox installed and Its more of a pain then anything... Im sure you can imagine...
I was wondering why is where is the RAM in One V getting used?
I have no open apps, still it has just 80-90 MB of RAM free (with just 3-4 apps like HTC Sense input running in Settings-Apps). While on my Xperia Mini ST15i, always 100-160MB of RAM is free (even with a big list of apps in the 'Running' tab in Settings-Applications-Manage Applications.)
Why's One V always low in free memory when compared to Xperia Mini?
Sense can be a memory hog; I switched to an ICS imitation launcher and removed sense (via root), and now I consistently have some 120+MB ram free. Haven't noticed any major lag difference between the launchers though, so you prolly shouldn't worry about it unless you play demanding games, in which case you might want something with *cough* better hardware.
Don't you have an overclocked Kernel?
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Haven't noticed any major lag difference between the launchers though, so you prolly shouldn't worry about it unless you play demanding games, in which case you might want something with *cough* better hardware.
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Do you have an overclocked Kernel after rooting?
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Do you have an overclocked Kernel after rooting?
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No, am going to try that, but don't plan on staying on overclock for too long due to battery/heat issues. Still worth a try. I don't personally play much games, if I do I would've gone with a One S.
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Is there any way I can overclock my One V without rooting?
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Is there any way I can overclock my One V without rooting?
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No. However installing a different launcher seems to reduce the RAM used by sense quite a lot and things are smoother. You might also need to unlock your bootloader to install kernels that overclock your device.
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JamesInsights said:
No. However installing a different launcher seems to reduce the RAM used by sense quite a lot and things are smoother.
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So which one is better and faster? LauncherPro, Apex Launcher or the same HTC Sense 4.0 (if it doesn't make a big difference) ?
And also tell me if 80-90MB RAM free on One V is bad (it SHOULD be faster) or it's OK (i don't really need to look for launchers) ?
The ICS core is fairly aggressive at purging old programs from the memory, so you shouldn't worry too much about memory for any single program. The memory issue will only show up when you multitask with many programs, as the old one starts getting purged and have to be reloaded when you jump to it, which shows up as lag at opening.
Paresh Kalinani said:
So which one is better and faster? LauncherPro, Apex Launcher or the same HTC Sense 4.0 (if it doesn't make a big difference) ?
And also tell me if 80-90MB RAM free on One V is bad (it SHOULD be faster) or it's OK (i don't really need to look for launchers) ?
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Zeam launcher IMO
I prefer Modaco Vanilla ICS ROM for speed and use its launcher. But Apex launcher is my 2nd fav launcher when I use other ROM.
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Zeam isn't taking any less RAM...
Lloir said:
Zeam launcher IMO
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Ha! Even Zeam Launcher takes 15-20MB of RAM when used. It's faster than HTC Sense 4 that takes around 36MB of RAM but it's not better than Apex Launcher or Laucher7. 'Cause each takes 15-20MB of RAM. Zeam isn't taking anything less...
I'll use HTC Sense.. till I get problems of speed... and then I'll move to Apex Launcher.
Paresh Kalinani said:
Ha! Even Zeam Launcher takes 15-20MB of RAM when used. It's faster than HTC Sense 4 that takes around 36MB of RAM but it's not better than Apex Launcher or Laucher7. 'Cause each takes 15-20MB of RAM. Zeam isn't taking anything less...
I'll use HTC Sense.. till I get problems of speed... and then I'll move to Apex Launcher.
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First of, It is better to understand how linux works in order to understand that a low memory situation is because that's how linux/android is built. Programs that tend to be used mostly by the user (such as dialer or sms app) will get cached in memory for later use. So in our case, there are many applications that get cached. Having only 80 mb free left doesn't matter anyway. If it moves without any lag, you should not worry. Android is not Windows!! You will not get warnings that you have small amount of ram available.
Secondly, this very question - the one with the ram - was told MULTIPLE MULTIPLE TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!! SEARCH THE THREADS BEFORE OPENING ANOTHER OP. Or you like to ask stupid questions instead of just search it in the first place?!
Third, you guys have ICS rom and still want to use a launcher that is that old, such as Launcher PRO or Zeam? I agree, those are smooth launchers but they are not designed for ICS, and LauncherPRO was dropped by the dev, no update was coming in a very long time. I have used Apex and Nova launcher with sense installed (running cached on background) and the phone was lag-free.
It really matters how you play with your phone (how you will set it up, how many apps, etc)....
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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and a former symbian lover
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First of, It is better to understand how linux works in order to understand that a low memory situation is because that's how linux/android is built. Programs that tend to be used mostly by the user (such as dialer or sms app) will get cached in memory for later use. So in our case, there are many applications that get cached. Having only 80 mb free left doesn't matter anyway. If it moves without any lag, you should not worry. Android is not Windows!! You will not get warnings that you have small amount of ram available.
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Thank You!!
But there IS an option that'll notify us when a small amount of RAM is available...
I LIKE the Pure IceCreamSandwich UI as in Galaxy Nexus
paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones ...
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Correct. But there are many people who wanna remove the Sense from their phone and like the pure Android 4 UI as in Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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Correct. But there are many people who wanna remove the Sense from their phone and like the pure Android 4 UI as in Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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the UI your on about is the AOSP look which i prefer myself, which is what Cyanogenmod is based on
paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
a true lfc supporter
and a former symbian lover
sent from my awesome HTC One V running rc 2.0 by CKPV5 -using xda premium
SUPPORT THE SOFTWARE DEVELOPER'S IF YOU LIKE THE GAME / APP BUY IT
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Because, we, modders and developers, want a non-laggy device. And for that achievement we need to get rid of sense. I didn't payed for Sense. I had sense before and I can tell you that it is not a fantastic UI at all. Ofc it looks best compared to lame samsung or LG but it is not very optimized and it is eating a lot of resources. If you payed for Sense, stick with sense. Stick it with it STOCK. When you will install an AOSP rom you will see what's the capabilities of your phone (will run much much faster). Think about it this way: Sense is a thief that comes at night and it beats you until you can't breathe. We don't want that. We need to breathe. So I'm going with a stock android 4.0 instead of Sense anytime.
Paresh Kalinani said:
Thank You!!
But there IS an option that'll notify us when a small amount of RAM is available...
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Yes it is but it doesn't matter because Android is killing old apps to free memory when needed. So don't worry about low RAM memory because Android is like a janitor. When the room is full with garbage and you need space, it will throw away the old stuff in order to move around new stuff
paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
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It's true that Samsung and Moto users will die to have Sense, but that's only because Touchwiz and Blur are even worse.