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i've seen videos on how to get rid of htc sense on this phone i really don't like sense is there any way to get rid of it on a uk version it seems as if all it has installed is normal htc sense and not home any fix?
slaming said:
i've seen videos on how to get rid of htc sense on this phone i really don't like sense is there any way to get rid of it on a uk version it seems as if all it has installed is normal htc sense and not home any fix?
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well if you have seen many vidoes how to do it then wheres the problem ?
the problem is i follow what they do and it doesn't work i think the problem is that it doesn't actually have home installed on it i've looked thru all of the applications and its not there is there anyway to install it?
Why would you get a desire and NOT a nexus one if you don't like sense?
Find Launcher.apk, Launcher2.apk or one of the launcher replacements in the market (ahome, openhome, home++) and install them to replace the sense homescreen.
brummiesteven said:
Why would you get a desire and NOT a nexus one if you don't like sense?
Find Launcher.apk, Launcher2.apk or one of the launcher replacements in the market (ahome, openhome, home++) and install them to replace the sense homescreen.
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umm desire is cheaper
just tried andvanced launcher crashes on startup
slaming said:
just tried andvanced launcher crashes on startup
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Advanced Launcher afaik is for 1.6 only.
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Advanced Launcher afaik is for 1.6 only.
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are there any for 2.1? because i couldn't find the others you suggested
You could try installing Launcher2.apk from Nexus One. Some people report it working fine on their phones. It didn't work for me though. Maybe I had the wrong APK.
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You could try installing Launcher2.apk from Nexus One. Some people report it working fine on their phones. It didn't work for me though. Maybe I had the wrong APK.
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Complete Android noob here please explain
In overly simplified terms, Sense UI is HTC's home screen, where as Launcher2 is Google's home screen for N1.
All programs on Android come in APK files. That's like a CAB installer on WinMo.
So all you need to do is search Nexus One forum for Launcher2.apk, download it on your phone and install it. Then when you press home button, it will ask you which home to launch. Choose Android home (or something similar) instead of Sense UI, but DON'T make it default just yet as it might not work.
If it does, next time you can make it default an voila - you have yourself a "Nexus One".
Though Sense UI will still be running, so you don't really save any memory or anything.
I have posted in this forum how to turn of Sense on the Desire. Search 'How to turn of HTC Sense' or something.
Since in that clip there was ACTUALLY a Desire being used, it should work. From what I remember:
Go to settings, all programs, search HTC Sense, turn it off.
XDA mark said:
I have posted in this forum how to turn of Sense on the Desire. Search 'How to turn of HTC Sense' or something.
Since in that clip there was ACTUALLY a Desire being used, it should work. From what I remember:
Go to settings, all programs, search HTC Sense, turn it off.
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I don't think you have read this thread at all have you?
Karolis said:
In overly simplified terms, Sense UI is HTC's home screen, where as Launcher2 is Google's home screen for N1.
All programs on Android come in APK files. That's like a CAB installer on WinMo.
So all you need to do is search Nexus One forum for Launcher2.apk, download it on your phone and install it. Then when you press home button, it will ask you which home to launch. Choose Android home (or something similar) instead of Sense UI, but DON'T make it default just yet as it might not work.
If it does, next time you can make it default an voila - you have yourself a "Nexus One".
Though Sense UI will still be running, so you don't really save any memory or anything.
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i've just downloaded launcher2.apk and now just to finish this phone call then i'm gonna test this out will report back. i feel like a crash test dummy lol
You could also try to install the Helixlauncher2 app from the Nexus One forum. It's a modified Nexus One launcher2 with a lot more features. I already made a thread in the Desire Themes and Apps forum since I'm curious whether it works flawlessly or not on the Desire. Maybe you can crash test that launcher too?
ok default launcher 2 doesn't work gonna try the other one mentioned now
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You could also try to install the Helixlauncher2 app from the Nexus One forum. It's a modified Nexus One launcher2 with a lot more features. I already made a thread in the Desire Themes and Apps forum since I'm curious whether it works flawlessly or not on the Desire. Maybe you can crash test that launcher too?
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just tried it it works seems a bit laggy but i think now i might just stick with sense as the only thing i prefer with nexus is the lock screen. anyway to get that on sense?
you also loose all the nice widgets so i'm gonna stick with sense for the moment.
thanks for all your help guys.
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I don't think you have read this thread at all have you?
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Yes I have, every post till mine. I am no pro at Android yet, so yeah I probably did not understand somehing. I just wanted to give my help, thats all.
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Yes I have, every post till mine. I am no pro at Android yet, so yeah I probably did not understand somehing. I just wanted to give my help, thats all.
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Dude what I was saying was that I had seen alot of tutorials on How to do it and followed them but it didn't work so you probably just miss understood. We all do at times dw about it
video of how to do it here, let us know if it works out for you
http://home.leakdroid.com/2010/03/turn-off-htc-sense-in-a-few-simple-steps-on-the-htc-desire/
So I'm running the newest Fresh, 0.5.3, and I have a few questions. First, I want the vanilla dialer, calendar, and messaging. I don't doubt I can find the apps floating around, but when I tried pushing Mms.apk, it doesn't load. I'm guessing it's because of the way Fresh is signed. Do I need flipz's key in order to sign my own apks for pushing, or can I sign with a key generated on my own?
Also, I'd like to link the camera with Gallery3D.apk and vice versa, where do I begin to look at that?
Finally, I'd like the eclair style lock (with the rotating dial), but I haven't the faintest idea where to begin for that one.
I can tinker around and figure all of the above out, but I would greatly appreciate any pushes in the right direction.
Can't help ya with the vanilla programs, as I don't know how.
As for the Gallery3D, I just installed the .apk with the installer app..? Is there some further "link" to the camera to peruse the pics?
As for the default Eclare lock screen, I believe Flipz said how to do it on his site, geekfor.me
When looking for a link I found this:
http://geekfor.me/faq/how-to-use-fresh-updater/
And it appears to also walk through how to install the vanilla apps..hope it helps!
Thanks for the answer. I have the lock from flipz, but that's the hero style, I want the eclair style. Hero is working alright for now though. As for the camera link, I'm not really sure. I did see somewhere that one of the AOSP like roms got the camera and Gallery3d to connect properly (camera button to camera, gallery button to Gallery3d and such). I'm not completely sure, but I'll see what I can find out.
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Thanks for the answer. I have the lock from flipz, but that's the hero style, I want the eclair style. Hero is working alright for now though. As for the camera link, I'm not really sure. I did see somewhere that one of the AOSP like roms got the camera and Gallery3d to connect properly (camera button to camera, gallery button to Gallery3d and such). I'm not completely sure, but I'll see what I can find out.
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Do us a favor and search first
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Brains.....braaaains....braaaaaaaaaains....
BrianDigital said:
Do us a favor and search first
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I stumbled upon this OLD thread and realized BrianDigital, who made the remark, had to mention this even though the last post before him was LONG TIME AGO, meaning it is already HISTORY. I'm laughing now at his remark, because he JUST HAD TO SAY IT, regardless of the date of the last post.
Sorry if this has been raised elsewhere, but I couldn't find it anywhere...
I know many don't like HTC's Sense. Personally I like it fine, with the huge exception that I can't use my phone in landscape half the time. I don't suppose it would be possible to enable landscape would there?
I'm running rooted stock 2.2.
Do you mean on the home screen???
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Do you mean on the home screen???
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yeah the home screen for sure, but since contacts, calendar, music, etc... are all modified by sense then none of them can go landscape either.
This is the number 1 reason why I don't use sense/Rosie. Its utterly ridiculous that sense doesnt do landscape.
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This is the number 1 reason why I don't use sense/Rosie. Its utterly ridiculous that sense doesnt do landscape.
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The sad part is all the images are there (in the framework) for Rosie to go into landscape, they just don't let it. I've seen a mod done that accomplishes this but it looked terrible and would have taken a lot of work to get all the elements to look right. Maybe they gave up and decided to focus on a more important project.. like Sprint Nascar.. or the Sprint Promotion app..
Rosie has such potential but is such a let-down. If they weren't going to go the extra mile and make Sense own everything else then they shouldn't have wasted their time on such a crippled UI.
Sense for Windows mobile does landscape. Why not the Android version HTC? Thats one of the reasons I use adw
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The sad part is all the images are there (in the framework) for Rosie to go into landscape, they just don't let it. I've seen a mod done that accomplishes this but it looked terrible and would have taken a lot of work to get all the elements to look right. Maybe they gave up and decided to focus on a more important project.. like Sprint Nascar.. or the Sprint Promotion app..
Rosie has such potential but is such a let-down. If they weren't going to go the extra mile and make Sense own everything else then they shouldn't have wasted their time on such a crippled UI.
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I completely agree. Its like they got to a point that they were happy and just gave up. The fact that landscape wasn't a high prirority is either lazy or dumb or both. This is basic functionality. As soon as I found adw way back when, Rosie has never touched my phone.
Yeah it does seem pretty dumb. Well I wonder if when the G2 comes out with an actual keyboard it'll mean that we finally have a landscape Rosie...
http://i.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-is-the-qwerty-slider-your-androids-been-waiting-fo/
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Yeah it does seem pretty dumb. Well I wonder if when the G2 comes out with an actual keyboard it'll mean that we finally have a landscape Rosie...
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Id hope. You'd think that the Evo would have had it since they promoted the hell out of the kickstand. What good is a kickstand if you have to turn the phone vertically to use its most basic functions? Thank God for ADW.
Full credit goes to Ssserpentine, SpaceMoose, and OldMacnut for their work on their united efforts to port Honeycomb to our tablets! It seems they are no longer working on it so I decided to create this thread and see what we all could to do together to improve what they have given us!
The point of this thread is to find ways to gather anyone with knowledge on developing, even if its just the "lowly 7-Zippers" like me, to see how we can remove minor bugs and small issues from the ROM. I know Oldmacnut was going to pick it up, but he has a lot on his plate right now and he has been in pain and is more interested in finishing the CM7 Port instead. I respect his decision, but so many people want honeycomb working on our tabs. So I am turning to the dev community here to see if we can group together and fix things in this rom together. If we cant solve the major bugs, lets address all the little things, cuz the little things add up.
Spacemoose made a list of suggestions from users earlier on how to solve minor issues, and little workarounds, but I would like to see if there is a way to roll up those fixes into one full updated ROM flashable through a zip/odin/heimdall file, and see if we can come up with more. You can see this post here, but I have added them to the second post as well in a more organized form.
Some Useful Links as Well:
SpaceMoose's Github
6-19-11 Apps Confirmed Working on [CDMA] / [GSM] Honeycomb Alpha 2.5
Currently Known Bugs:
CDMA
A) Red Border Around Screen at Random Times
B) Constant Gallery Force Close
C) Stock Launcher hangs for many seconds at a time randomly
D) SD Card Does Not Mount
E) Youtube app does not work
F) Orientation Sensor is not functional
G) Honeycomb thinks Device Keyboard is enabled by default
H) When pressing Quick Settings, an image that is semi transparent that is supposed to cover the entire screen isnt scaled properly
I) HQ Youtube does not work (LQ does on the mobile site)
J) Quick Settings Shortcut on Bottom Right Side (Wi-Fi Toggle, Brightness Slider, etc) appears for a second but disappears afterwards.
K) Flash Player is not Fully Functional
GSM - Please Submit or confirm if the above bugs are the same and/or you have different ones!
Red - Signifies an issue that is unaddressed or has not been solved yet.
Orange - Signifies a Temporary Fix or Workaround is mentioned in the post I linked to.
Blue - Will signify a temporary fix or a work around that we have been able to include in a flashable file
Green - Will signify a bug that has been completely fixed in a flashable file.
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Lets put our minds together and see what we can do guys! Btw this was inspired by Rodderik's thread [SPRINT][CDMA]Galaxy Tab (SPH-P100) Mega Development Starter Thread (CWM, EF17 TAR), so if youre interested in this, you might like his thread too!
Current Workarounds/Temporary Fixes:
Letters correspond to the bugs listed in the OP.
A)
Ssserpentine:
1) Open up Dev Tools
2) Go to Development Settings
3) StrictMode Visual Indicator - turn it off
4) back out of app and now open it again.
5) If this doesn't get rid of MOST of the red borders, REBOOT and open app again.
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B)
anfalas:
"Get Gallery3D to play nice by going into settings, applications then 'Clear Data' - works great, can change wallpaper etc. Only downside is it has to be done each reboot....."
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C)
Ssserpentine:
“WANT IMPROVED UI, LESS RED BORDERS, LESS FC'S AND SCROLLING AND SOFT KEYS THAT PLAY NICER? Try adw launcher. for some reason just having it installed helps just as much as using it.”
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D)
mattman83:
"to mount UMS if you have no external SD then use the below line. Same changes as above... echo /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 > /sys/devices/platform/s3c-usbgadget/gadget/lun1/file"
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corodius:
"if you have an external sd, by extending the commands to: su mount -t vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/sdcard/ mount -t vfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ This will mount the cards the way they are originally mounted in the samsung/overcome roms."
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E)
Use m.youtube.com to play LQ videos
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F)
ztag100:
"If you download barcontrol from the market, you can set it so that a notification links to the rotation app, thus when the notification is clicked it will change the orientation."
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G)
"one way to load keyboards On the language/keyboard settings page, turn physical keyboard to "no" or "off" or something like that. Now when on a text field, you should see a small keyboard tray in bottom right corner.."
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Submit a New Bug or Fix:
Please submit bugs using the color coded system I explained in the OP. If you are submitting information on solving a bug please address the bug by the corresponding letter so that we can stay organized and know what youre talking about. If you have a new bug please check the OP to make sure I havent listed it, then post it on here and dont worry about the letter, I will alphabetize them. Of course I will credit you in the OP for any fixes or workarounds you may find! Good luck to us all!
Reserved as well!
Yes, please
I would really love a Honeycomb ROM for the Galaxy Tab. There are many reasons why I want to put Honeycomb onto the original Galaxy Tab.
Just see the difference for yourself: Blank space, single pane, one-category-at-a-time menus in Gingerbread
VS.
Less blank space, concise, dual pane interfaces in Honeycomb.
Gingerbread apps are just designed for smaller smartphone screens, so they look too big and spaced-out on the 7-inch Galaxy Tab for my taste. I would really love to see some tablet-optimized apps on the Galaxy Tab!
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And yes, I respect the developers and appreciate them so much for the time they put into making custom roms a reality for us!
Please make the thread for GSM also.
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Please make the thread for GSM also.
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Are the bugs the same? Or are there others that I havent mentioned? I will try to make a section for both tabs if theres different bugs in each one.
Why no mention of ssserpentine?
In op or thread tittle?
He worked on the GSM version.
Moose did the major part of the port and the cdma version.
That other person stumbled, or so he claims, on a audio fix. Never saw a release of this apparent audio fix.
Wonder how many donations he got on open thread with no release posted.
Hmm.
Makes ya wonder why that thread is even there.
Dole out the credits properly.
Just know it needed to be said, and go ahead and get mad. Truth hurts.
alot of angry responces coming, maybe, but dare ya to point out a single lie in this post. Even an exaggeration.
Moose did hc for MONTHS and noone offered any valid help, except ssserpentine, why do you think anyone is gonna get off their but now?
Why don't you, punkrock?
Cause I know how utterly hopeless this task is.
Why don't you all just wait for the leak of the next os?
That so much closer than some random Joe, or Joe's on xda getting hc ported at this point .
is the dead horse braised yet?
Still, hope is eternal, I suppose
PunkRock said:
Why no mention of ssserpentine?
In op or thread tittle?
He worked on the GSM version.
Moose did the major part of the port and the cdma version.
That other person stumbled, or so he claims, on a audio fix. Never saw a release of this apparent audio fix.
Wonder how many donations he got on open thread with no release posted.
Hmm.
Makes ya wonder why that thread is even there.
Dole out the credits properly.
Just know it needed to be said, and go ahead and get mad. Truth hurts.
alot of angry responces coming, maybe, but dare ya to point out a single lie in this post. Even an exaggeration.
Moose did hc for MONTHS and noone offered any valid help, except ssserpentine, why do you think anyone is gonna get off their but now?
Why don't you, punkrock?
Cause I know how utterly hopeless this task is.
Why don't you all just wait for the leak of the next os?
That so much closer than some random Joe, or Joe's on xda getting hc ported at this point .
is the dead horse braised yet?
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Easy man, in my frenzy of trying to organize the thread, I forgot to credit Ssserpentine in the OP, youre right he did contribute a lot, no need to be rash, I will update it right now.
EDIT: btw oldmacnut did make an audio fix, im running his rom right now, I downloaded it when he had it posted before he took it down, and Im sure some of the bugs I mentioned are fixable on the rom level rather than through adb. My goal wasnt to debug the rom completely, it was to incorporate all the existing bug fixes and workarounds into one rom, while possibly solving others. Also the GSM devs are aplenty here, while we barely have any CDMA, Im sure we have enough talent to make it better than what it is. It might not be flawless, but Im sure we can squeeze more functionality out of it.
Its weird,
Honeycomb is more or less froyo based, obviously as we had hc long before gb, so at the time when I started getting into this whole dev thing hc/froyo seemed just different to me.
But after working on the abortion called gingerbread, and working onbthe kernel stuff, froyo to me, is starting to look like a much more viable and dev friendly option.
Alot if the work Dan did in hc was from scratch, or from the sdk, etc. The audio fix I did was from both.
The big issue on getting hc up and going into a usuable rom is source, we really really need that source for hc. Otherwise, its going to be a long drawn out road of trial and error building with alot of these issues never really getting fixed.
Truth is,
No device with our hardware exists with hc, so no drivers that we need.
We need Google to release the hc source.
I liked hc on my tab just like y'all, but.......I know its just a novel weekend fun toy till we get better resources.
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Its weird,
Honeycomb is more or less froyo based, obviously as we had hc long before gb, so at the time when I started getting into this whole dev thing hc/froyo seemed just different to me.
But after working on the abortion called gingerbread, and working onbthe kernel stuff, froyo to me, is starting to look like a much more viable and dev friendly option.
Alot if the work Dan did in hc was from scratch, or from the sdk, etc. The audio fix I did was from both.
The big issue on getting hc up and going into a usuable rom is source, we really really need that source for hc. Otherwise, its going to be a long drawn out road of trial and error building with alot of these issues never really getting fixed.
Truth is,
No device with our hardware exists with hc, so no drivers that we need.
We need Google to release the hc source.
I liked hc on my tab just like y'all, but.......I know its just a novel weekend fun toy till we get better resources.
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Yeah I know, the lack of source sucks along with the fact we dont have drivers. I dont think we'll have everything working anytime soon at all, if ever even, but I think some of the minor annoyances like the disappearing quick settings toggle, sdcard mounting issues, and graphical errors can be solved without that kind of stuff. Me personally, Id just like HQ Video Playback and 3D Graphics working a hundred percent along with orientation, but as you said no drivers so idk how easy that'd be. Still, Im sure we could solve some of these minor issues. I keep browsing over the Nook Color Forums trying to find hints to solving some of these things
GSM Tab here I'll flash the old 2.5 alpha release and confirm these bugs, see what else I can do.
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GSM Tab here I'll flash the old 2.5 alpha release and confirm these bugs, see what else I can do.
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Nice to see something happening here. I love my Tab but would like some advancements in OS to address specific issues. I am very new to the dev side of the Android OS but would like to get involved.
--Mike
What blows my mind is that they have created an almost perfect HC port for the $150.00 walmart sold viewsonic g-tablet by means of the flashback roms so why is it so hard to get HC working on our tabs? And why can't someone just dump the Rom from the gtab10.1 and use that as a starting point?
On a different note, the alpha 2.5 HC Rom for gsm, the sd cards will not mount no matter what, I've tried The terminal and the mount instructions many times all I am able to do is get the tab to recognize my external sd as the internal sd, and if you try to go to settings applications and clear data for the gallery you get a force close as soon as you tap manage applications
Sent From Githrog's Tab
Ok done some immediate testing on my GSM Tab for some of the known issues
A) Red Border Around Screen at Random Times
Confirmed
Solution: is the same as the CDMA
B) Constant Gallery Force Close
Confirmed
Solution: Cannot be fixed through Setting, crashes as soon as you try to Manage Applications
C) Stock Launcher hangs for many seconds at a time randomly
Not really was slow on boot but no major problems
D) SD Card Does Not Mount
Confirmed
Solution: Haven't tested fix yet
E) Youtube app does not work
Confirmed
Solution: Confirmed
F) Orientation Sensor is not functional
Confirmed
Solution: "Rotating Screen" flips screen incorrectly so that capacitive buttons are on the top of the device
G) Honeycomb thinks Device Keyboard is enabled by default
Confirmed
Solution: Must be set on each boot
H) When pressing Quick Settings, an image that is semi transparent that is supposed to cover the entire screen isnt scaled properly
Confirmed
I) HQ Youtube does not work (LQ does on the mobile site)
Confirmed
J) Quick Settings Shortcut on Bottom Right Side (Wi-Fi Toggle, Brightness Slider, etc) appears for a second but disappears afterwards.
The widget that display battery level, time, etc stays active however no settings are located underneath it. While this menu is expanded a press on the bottom bar will cause the settings to briefly appear but then the whole menu will close
K) Flash Player is not Fully Functional
Not tested
"New" GSM bugs
1. Wi-fi settings are not saved on restart
2. Manage Applications and Running Services menu causes force close of settings
3. Small thing but Tab's first start had language set to Spanish (Not sure if it was spanish but it certainly was not English)
And as always 3G does not work (tried APN settings but it wouldn't let me save)
Alright I'm back to MIUI until I can find some more time on my hands
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Githrog said:
What blows my mind is that they have created an almost perfect HC port for the $150.00 walmart sold viewsonic g-tablet by means of the flashback roms so why is it so hard to get HC working on our tabs? And why can't someone just dump the Rom from the gtab10.1 and use that as a starting point?
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If it were that simple I'm sure someone would have thought of that To be honest I think the problem is that the Tab is an extremely fractured device; it was really the first Android tablet to directly compete with the iPad, so it was spread as wide as possible. That's great for Samsung who got a pretty large base of customer but sucks for devs because the GSM and CDMA are 2 very different devices not to mention the P-1000N. When I got my Tab last month the first thing I noticed in this forum was the fragmentation between the different versions of Tabs. More profoundly this means that the developers are split apart, usually when one dev makes a break through everyone else can take advantage of it (i.e. the amazing Voodoo Sound/Color hacks) but not here. I feel like everyone is by themselves and I truly feel bad for the developers because they must make their own breakthroughs on top of dealing with complaints from Tab users with other versions that they want this awesome thing on their Tab. As if its no big deal to go and buy a $450 device to develop something as a hobby and then release it for free for people on the internet after already buying nearly the exact same device.
Sadly I think the Tab is a perfect storm working against modifying it in any ground breaking ways. Don't get me wrong I love my Tab and will try to help getting Honeycomb running but I almost feel like it would just be easier to wait for Ice Cream Sandwhich. /rant
Guys, there is no reason to develop honeycomb, it is inposible to make fully functional honeycomb rom, wait a month or less for ICS, read this (quote from android police posted today):
Honeycomb is closed source. Nobody can make a tablet without Google's blessing. The reason given is that Honeycomb was rushed out the door, and the code isn't good enough for an open source release. They're right you know, setting the emulator to anything smaller than a tablet will result in about a million force closes. Honeycomb just isn't as supportive of hardware as Gingerbread was. To save developers the headache of supporting a platform that wasn't ready, Android's openness got shelved.
Luckily this is going to change. The big cheese said so himself on the Official Android Developers blog, "This temporary delay does not represent a change in strategy. We remain firmly committed to providing Android as an open source platform across many device types." Source code is coming back. This will make the modding community's life much easier. Cyanogenmod 8 (I got excited just typing that) and Ice Cream Sandwich will be able to get hacked onto just about anything.
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CROrION said:
Guys, there is no reason to develop honeycomb, it is inposible to make fully functional honeycomb rom, wait a month or less for ICS, read this (quote from android police posted today):
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I just wanted an excuse to try out Honeycomb
BulletproofIdeal said:
Ok done some immediate testing on my GSM Tab for some of the known issues
A) Red Border Around Screen at Random Times
Confirmed
Solution: is the same as the CDMA
B) Constant Gallery Force Close
Confirmed
Solution: Cannot be fixed through Setting, crashes as soon as you try to Manage Applications
C) Stock Launcher hangs for many seconds at a time randomly
Not really was slow on boot but no major problems
D) SD Card Does Not Mount
Confirmed
Solution: Haven't tested fix yet
E) Youtube app does not work
Confirmed
Solution: Confirmed
F) Orientation Sensor is not functional
Confirmed
Solution: "Rotating Screen" flips screen incorrectly so that capacitive buttons are on the top of the device
G) Honeycomb thinks Device Keyboard is enabled by default
Confirmed
Solution: Must be set on each boot
H) When pressing Quick Settings, an image that is semi transparent that is supposed to cover the entire screen isnt scaled properly
Confirmed
I) HQ Youtube does not work (LQ does on the mobile site)
Confirmed
J) Quick Settings Shortcut on Bottom Right Side (Wi-Fi Toggle, Brightness Slider, etc) appears for a second but disappears afterwards.
The widget that display battery level, time, etc stays active however no settings are located underneath it. While this menu is expanded a press on the bottom bar will cause the settings to briefly appear but then the whole menu will close
K) Flash Player is not Fully Functional
Not tested
"New" GSM bugs
1. Wi-fi settings are not saved on restart
2. Manage Applications and Running Services menu causes force close of settings
3. Small thing but Tab's first start had language set to Spanish (Not sure if it was spanish but it certainly was not English)
And as always 3G does not work (tried APN settings but it wouldn't let me save)
Alright I'm back to MIUI until I can find some more time on my hands
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If it were that simple I'm sure someone would have thought of that To be honest I think the problem is that the Tab is an extremely fractured device; it was really the first Android tablet to directly compete with the iPad, so it was spread as wide as possible. That's great for Samsung who got a pretty large base of customer but sucks for devs because the GSM and CDMA are 2 very different devices not to mention the P-1000N. When I got my Tab last month the first thing I noticed in this forum was the fragmentation between the different versions of Tabs. More profoundly this means that the developers are split apart, usually when one dev makes a break through everyone else can take advantage of it (i.e. the amazing Voodoo Sound/Color hacks) but not here. I feel like everyone is by themselves and I truly feel bad for the developers because they must make their own breakthroughs on top of dealing with complaints from Tab users with other versions that they want this awesome thing on their Tab. As if its no big deal to go and buy a $450 device to develop something as a hobby and then release it for free for people on the internet after already buying nearly the exact same device.
Sadly I think the Tab is a perfect storm working against modifying it in any ground breaking ways. Don't get me wrong I love my Tab and will try to help getting Honeycomb running but I almost feel like it would just be easier to wait for Ice Cream Sandwhich. /rant
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Wow now that is the kinda posts i like seeing on here! I will try to update the OP tonight with this info! Thanks so much! Definitely echo your sentiments about the fractured and fragmented development we have going on here, it really sucks =/
Ive found out that replacing the existing Gallery with Gallery3D should fix the FC that keeps popping up.
I think Ive found a working Youtube App (in LQ).
Ive also found a hint towards solving the sdcard mounting issue. Its not the vold.fstab its something either in the framework or ramdisk within the kernel, according to the Nook Color Forums.
This thread is interesting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062626 , actually the entire nook color forum is interesting for finding fixes.
Also changing the dalvik_heapsize to a certain value is supposed to increase app compatibility. Before I update the OP with some of these things, I wanna do a little more testing and see what I can come up with.
Sorry to bother for help,
Sorry to bother you guys for help, but I've been trying to install Oldmacnut's updated of Spacemoose's CDMA Honeycomb (2.5.1) for hours now, with no success.
I used Rodderick's awesome stock rom/kernel and got into clockworkmod (using 4.0.1.5 or 3.0.0.0), installed the zip from there, then rebooted the phone, but I would either 1) be stuck at logo for 10+ minutes 2) see the Sprint startup video loop over and over again, or 3) get stuck on a turned on, but black screen.
How did you guys install Honeycomb on your CDMA tab? Am I doing something wrong? Should I use Spacemoose's 2.5 rom instead of Oldmacnut's?
EDIT: NEVER MIND, IT BOOTED INTO HONEYCOMB. I am in a foreign language, haha, I'm guessing Portuguese?
EDIT EDIT: Google Translate detects the language as Catalan. Haha!
iliveinabucket said:
EDIT EDIT: Google Translate detects the language as Catalan. Haha!
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Hehe that happened to me as well
First Impressions and problems encountered
HOLY SHOOT THIS IS QUITE FAST!
Considering there is no graphics acceleration support, Honeycomb runs much faster than I anticipated. SD card support is fantastic, and so is hearing sound! (I love you OMC) The UI is awetastic and the standard web browser is blazing fast. Scrolling in web pages is faster on Honeycomb than on Gingerbread stock.
The jittery touch screen bug I have is still there, unfortunately. Damn bug drives me crazy sometimes. I'm sure somebody has this problem that many of us have but have not found a fix to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970965
Basically, when I hold down my finger to scroll on white or light-color backgrounds, the screen shakes back and forth in a spastic, noticeable way, especially when I hold it in place. This happens on every single rom I've been on, froyo, GB, CM7, and now Honeycomb. Has anyone found a fix for that yet?
Anyways, I think all the known Honeycomb bugs are true to me too. Youtube force closes on me, GPS doesn't work, auto-orientation doesn't work. Strangely enough, Quick Settings doesn't work for me. Anyone encounter that?
Can anyone tell me what the boxes to each side of this home screen resize tool means, since the home screen doesn't rotate what is their purpose? Thanks
Well, the non-rotating thing is more a touchwiz design choice by Samsung. In a nonTouchwiz, such as AOSP, there is rotating. And what you're seeing came in Android 4; it's possible maybe Android 3.1, but I never was on it so I don't know.
Personally, I don't like it. I preferred the old way.
As for the purpose, I haven't clue. When I was AOSP Android 4 based ROMS, the only time I saw the whole home screen was when I was in the mode to pick which page I wanted to jump to. Otherwise, it didn't matter if portrait or landscape mode, I only saw a small bit.
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Well, the non-rotating thing is more a touchwiz design choice by Samsung. In a nonTouchwiz, such as AOSP, there is rotating. And what you're seeing came in Android 4; it's possible maybe Android 3.1, but I never was on it so I don't know.
Personally, I don't like it. I preferred the old way.
As for the purpose, I haven't clue. When I was AOSP Android 4 based ROMS, the only time I saw the whole home screen was when I was in the mode to pick which page I wanted to jump to. Otherwise, it didn't matter if portrait or landscape mode, I only saw a small bit.
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Oh ok Thanks that sheds a Lil light