Tied to Google Calendar? - Desire General

I'm likley to be an Android newbie and read the thread below on the calendar. Work forces me to be tied to Outlook and I don't really want a three way sync Phone/Google/Outlook. Will I be able to just work with Phone/Outlook without Google?

alexbush said:
I'm likley to be an Android newbie and read the thread below on the calendar. Work forces me to be tied to Outlook and I don't really want a three way sync Phone/Google/Outlook. Will I be able to just work with Phone/Outlook without Google?
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I think so. You just have to register your exchange account on the phone and disable synchronization of calendar on your google account.
EDIT : ho, maybe I misunderstood. Maybe you don't use exchange server Anyway, you CAN disable google calendar synchronization.
EDIT2 : and I found this ^^ : http://www.android-sync.com/

Thanks Kiiv
Sounds good and thanks for the link. I do use M/S Exchange via data/wifi connections on occasion but when in the office I sync Outlook to my current Winmo phone over a cable. The link you gave is to a very early 'pre-alpha' piece of software - surely there is something already in existence for Android to Outlook over a cable (an equivalent to Active Sync?)

You want HTC Sync. I use it with my Hero and it will sync outlook 2007 contacts and calender.
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=631&news_id=270
This software actually works with all HTC Android phones so guess it will also work with the Desire..

There is an official sofware from HTC (named "HTC sync") to synchronize with Windows PIM (so Outlook). I think it works only with Sense phone (an other advantage for the Desire over N1? ).
Don't find english page about this (only french) so I can't put a link.
EDIT : Damn, I'm to slow

Why would you NOT want to use Google Calendar?

brummiesteven said:
Why would you NOT want to use Google Calendar?
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When the whole company use Outlook 2007 and they are paying for the phone it's difficult to use anything else.
While, I suspect, most of us here have abandoned Windows Mobile 6 it's still very much a Microsoft world for most of the business community. If it wasn't for HTC Sync and "Documents to Go" to read Word and Excel files I would be forced to have a Windows Mobile phone.
I agree if you don't need to use "Outlook" then don't!

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Why would you NOT want to use Google Calendar?
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Let me see - are those enough as a start:
- battery life and constant cellular data. expensive & not needed.
- So far for WM ActiveSync (or email push) from google is a disaster. Calendar as well. Don't want to take chances to have that as the only option available.
- G-cal is a disaster, when it comes to something more than dinner reminders.
- tasks? categories?
- Shall we all just give all our personal & corporate data to this company for free?
- Don't like the idea to have an OS, advertised as open source, but not able to connect to =! google. blah, symbian is more open.
- How do you think the employer will react on the idea to bring the corporate data outside to the major well known data stealing giant? I'd like to remind we're in EU, not in U$-the issue can easily end up in the court.
- what if I'm working abroad? paying hundreds of euros just because I can't sync the calendar with the laptop next to me without cellular connection?
- why exactly google? I might want to use another cloud calendar for example

scotch whisky said:
When the whole company use Outlook 2007 and they are paying for the phone it's difficult to use anything else.
While, I suspect, most of us here have abandoned Windows Mobile 6 it's still very much a Microsoft world for most of the business community. If it wasn't for HTC Sync and "Documents to Go" to read Word and Excel files I would be forced to have a Windows Mobile phone.
I agree if you don't need to use "Outlook" then don't!
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Ahh ok, I didn't think about it like that.
In that case a simple solution would be to sync outlook (mail and calendar) to google? This way your phone will always be in sync and changes you make on your PC would automatically be pushed to your phone instead of you having to connect via USB and use HTC sync.

...and we have gone right round the circle! I don't want to use Outlook but I have to for work. I don't want to try and sync three systems if I can get away with syncing two... and yes I am slightly luddite about putting all my data in Google's hands
But seriously - thanks for all the replies

same boat, I've put my hopes in HTC Sync and if it doesn't work I'm in trouble! Still can't sync tasks though with HTC Sync

"G-Sync It" £10 but works nicely!

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sync!

HTC Sync upgrade for HTC Magic, Hero &Tattoo "http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283&cat=3&dl_id=852"
it is at HTC site, but the Android rom is not broadcasting its USB id from cable, Can someone port it from Hero to TT2. So that we can Sync Outlook properly.
Sync client need to know it is exist.
Regards
Tunc
It should be added to "NOT WORKING IN THIS BUILD:" as part of the build route....
Thanks to all developers making things work here.
Tunc
Okay.
One hour to install this stupid software.
And it's still not done.
Seriously, how can someone use this damn windows os ?!?
If you are talking about HTC Sync software. Your PC may be overloaded restart pc and reinstall software it should not take more that 5 -10 minutes.
Regards
i think there are much better ways as using this software? how about a tool to sync your outlook contacts with gmail and gmail with your android?
think this works very well.
there is a tool its called once android finishes booting sign into you google account they automatically save all contacts as they are created in your android device.... and anytime you have to reinstall droid your contacts come with you lol
lhwparis said:
i think there are much better ways as using this software? how about a tool to sync your outlook contacts with gmail and gmail with your android?
think this works very well.
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Import/Export of a C.S.V file is VERY easy between google/outlook.
you are all talking cross transfer I want to transfer direct not using Advert supported Gmail which I already use.! I want to sync Outlook direct. No way I would be slave to google for my email and other services. It is a commercial dive!
Sorry guys get your priority right. I am already using Google but I will not let them put Advert in my Email... No thank you!
Free or slave!
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Tunc
I created a gmail account after setting up android and then went back to wm os used activesync with google and it keeps my contacts updated with both and i have not gotten a single advert email and seems a good alternative till usb sync is possible
agreed i stick with gmail since i get no advertisements what so ever
eresen said:
Sorry guys get your priority right. I am already using Google but I will not let them put Advert in my Email... No thank you!
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Am I missing something here? I don't get advertisements "in my Email." However, I do get advertisements surrounding my emails in a browser. Does that make me a slave to Google?
I take it you don't search using the major search engines like Google, Yahoo, or Bing either?
Check what is Google is planning they have right to include ads in your email as they wish. Since they have not implemented yet. Once they decide every email can include keyword base ads in delivery. if you mention Laptop you will get ads by Dell or Toshiba! So GMail will never be my main email for that reason only.... I always believe there are no free lunches! by Corporate.

But will it sync with Outlook?

Hi All,
I've searched on this topic but can't find a full answer.
Seems it is possible to sync but not automatically as with WinMo.
Does anyone have the definitive answer?
Yes it will provided your company doesn't have any additional security demands.
I work for a company that imposes certain security rules that the Android Exchange sync doesn't support like forcing the device to have PIN to unlock the phone. Its to protect the email on the device in the event of lost or theft. It'll also permanently lock the device if 10 failed attempts are made. It can only be unlocked via our corporate mail server. So the thief or finder would have to re-flash the device in which case the corporate data would be gone from it and be safe.
If you company uses such security rules, you won't be able to use the integrated exchange sync. You can purchase the Exchange Sync app by Touchdown and it will work regardless of your security policies.
Yes it should by using HTC Sync ...my wife's Hero has no problems. However, she typically syncs Outlook with her Google account and the phone is automatically kept synced with that.
i think the desire has more advanced exchange intergration, check out the product description on htc's website
Your work email, calendar appointments, and contacts, are right there on your phone - you can even look up any company contact in the global address book. The HTC Desire also has enhanced support for Exchange security features such as password protection and remote data wipe
mallard729 said:
i think the desire has more advanced exchange intergration, check out the product description on htc's website
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You are absolutely correct. I've been waiting for this for quite sometime. Thanks to your post, I decided to check the UK version of their website and found all the info on it there. Their US site doesn't appear to have any data for this device.
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You are absolutely correct. I've been waiting for this for quite sometime. Thanks to your post, I decided to check the UK version of their website and found all the info on it there. Their US site doesn't appear to have any data for this device.
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i'm using the Desire ROM on my Nexus One and - assuming no change in the Exchange features at production - it will have full exchange integration, including that FRIGGIN pin! i can't speak to the wipe features because i haven't tested that (and don't plan to, lol). since my Exchange email is from a personal account, i had my service provider disable the PIN requirement so i can use the pattern lock feature instead.
I don't believe it has [full] support for 'desktop' outlook sync? I used to use my WinMo device to sync to a work Exchange account but have had a blackberry so no need for that.
What I still need to do is sync to my home computer's Outlook via Active Sync to sync contacts, calendars, tasks, etc.
I believe the HTC Sync is a bit limited in this respect? The only answer that I get on searching the net is to use Google services, not really an ideal solution for those who do not/want to use it.
So is it possible to switch off syncing with google servers and just sync with the Outlook on my home PC?
JTHM said:
Yes it should by using HTC Sync ...my wife's Hero has no problems. However, she typically syncs Outlook with her Google account and the phone is automatically kept synced with that.
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What application do you use for syncing her Hero? I am using GSyncIT but I think it has limitations... and costs £10!
O and O said:
What application do you use for syncing her Hero? I am using GSyncIT but I think it has limitations... and costs £10!
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I think the poster mentioned that HTC Sync is used for this. Although I dont think it does Tasks?
MyLink
Just found this software (out in April):
http://www.wavestore.co.uk/index.php/products/mylink-desktop.html
The Advanced version is already out but lacks OTA sync'ing.
It's a bit sad that what I would consider to be a fundamental piece of software for any phone, for the foreseeable future, we will have to pay for. But a small price to pay for the other benefits of an Android phone.
If you want to Sync Outlook and Gmail I use GSyncIt - £10.
I don't really like the fact that Google doesn't support Tasks 'explicitly' (I believe it uses another instance of a calendar to achieve this?).
Not important to those who dont make use of tasks of course.
sh500 said:
Just found this software (out in April):
http://www.wavestore.co.uk/index.php/products/mylink-desktop.html
The Advanced version is already out but lacks OTA sync'ing.
It's a bit sad that what I would consider to be a fundamental piece of software for any phone, for the foreseeable future, we will have to pay for. But a small price to pay for the other benefits of an Android phone.
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I was excited and then very disappointed. The Mylink software does a sync via a multi-step process.
after the USB connection...
Mount the SD
run the sync software on the PC
unmount the sd
run the sync app on the device
After that's all done, you can only access the sync'd data via a custom app.
MyLink is just useless
Is there a reason that there's no app that syncs with Desktop outlook, like Windows Mobile via Active Sync? Is there a restriction on using Active sync, or is the protocol unknown?
but HTC Sync does that surely?Thats what I'm hoping for anyway! I need to sync with TWO desktops (neither exchange) calendar and contacts, and preferably tasks. From what I've read HTC Sync will do calendar and contacts to a desktop PC via USB
It does. But, HTC Sync requires the HERO Framework, so stock android users are out of luck.
tdusen said:
I was excited and then very disappointed. The Mylink software does a sync via a multi-step process.
after the USB connection...
Mount the SD
run the sync software on the PC
unmount the sd
run the sync app on the device
After that's all done, you can only access the sync'd data via a custom app.
MyLink is just useless
Is there a reason that there's no app that syncs with Desktop outlook, like Windows Mobile via Active Sync? Is there a restriction on using Active sync, or is the protocol unknown?
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Too good to be true comes to mind now (!)

HTC Sync - working with Outlook and the Evo

Hey all ! Questions for the lucky ones with Evos already in hand out there.
It's unfortunately mission critical to me to be able to sync my phone with my MS Outlook contacts / calendar / notes (appointments, reminders, etc) and so on. Not running an exchange server... Just need to be able to sync my Outlook personal data every night. It's a work thing, you see...
Anyone out there in the same situation and with experience to share ? How well and reliably does the HTC Sync software work, in general, and more specifically with the Evo ?
Thanks !
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Hey all ! Questions for the lucky ones with Evos already in hand out there.
It's unfortunately mission critical to me to be able to sync my phone with my MS Outlook contacts / calendar / notes (appointments, reminders, etc) and so on. Not running an exchange server... Just need to be able to sync my Outlook personal data every night. It's a work thing, you see...
Anyone out there in the same situation and with experience to share ? How well and reliably does the HTC Sync software work, in general, and more specifically with the Evo ?
Thanks !
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Well the website for HTC Synch doesn't even show it supports the EVO yet and it also shows it only supports Outlook 2000.
MrDSL said:
Well the website for HTC Synch doesn't even show it supports the EVO yet and it also shows it only supports Outlook 2000.
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It doesn't only support 2000, it only says the latest version (2.0.33) supports 2000 - it previously wasn't the case.
Also, given that v2.0.33 supports the Incredible and the fact that I've read a couple times that HTC Sync actually comes with the EVO (on the SD card - EVO owners, what say you?), I don't think it's a stretch to assume it probably works with the device... All I want to know is how well HTC Sync works and how reliable & seamless the sync is; if EVO users have experience with it, then it's ideal and I'd love to hear !
Markko said:
It doesn't only support 2000, it only says the latest version (2.0.33) supports 2000 - it previously wasn't the case.
Also, given that v2.0.33 supports the Incredible and the fact that I've read a couple times that HTC Sync actually comes with the EVO (on the SD card - EVO owners, what say you?), I don't think it's a stretch to assume it probably works with the device... All I want to know is how well HTC Sync works and how reliable & seamless the sync is; if EVO users have experience with it, then it's ideal and I'd love to hear !
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You are probably right
I would also like to know this...
I use outlook 2007 and use it for my calendars, tasks, and contacts....
will this work for me? Thanks
I have the same issue and don't like the HTC sync tool. messes with other things. I sync the contact manually with Google contacts once a month. i do this with a CSV file. I then loaded Googles calendar sync app which syncs my Work outlook calendar to my Google Calendar.
I created a second Google caledar which i use as my person calendar to keep them seperate.
Not pretty but works and is not phone or brand dependant
Google Calendar has a tool on its website ( dub-dub-dub-dot google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=89955 ) to sync with Outlook automatically. I know it does Calendar, but I'm not sure about Contacts. I'm pretty sure I've seen something for Calendar contacts.
The phone will automatically sync with your Google Calendar and Contacts.
RN-Dude said:
Google Calendar has a tool on its website ( dub-dub-dub-dot google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=89955 ) to sync with Outlook automatically. I know it does Calendar, but I'm not sure about Contacts. I'm pretty sure I've seen something for Calendar contacts.
The phone will automatically sync with your Google Calendar and Contacts.
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you are correct, the pc version only syncs calendar items...
just export the outlook files and import them into google contacts...very simple...only problem is that the pictures won't go over...does any one know how to do this? Thanks
eyecon82 said:
you are correct, the pc version only syncs calendar items...
just export the outlook files and import them into google contacts...very simple...only problem is that the pictures won't go over...does any one know how to do this? Thanks
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That's great guys but I'm not looking for workarounds through Google Calendar - I don't use Calendar, or Gmail. Putting my data in the cloud would breach confidentiality agreements with clients, unfortunately. So I need to know how well the straight-up PC to phone sync works... Until now I've been with WinMo (on HTC, of course) since it just works so seamlessly (well, the synching part), but I'm way overdue for a jump to Android...
eyecon82 said:
you are correct, the pc version only syncs calendar items...
just export the outlook files and import them into google contacts...very simple...only problem is that the pictures won't go over...does any one know how to do this? Thanks
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I am also making the switch from WinMo to Android, here is what I did to "sync" my contacts. I am not sure what I am going to do in the future, but mine don't change much anymore (4 years of working with outlook contacts, they are pretty up to date).
Sync'd phone with Outlook Contacts
Used PIM Backup to backup Contacts
Established OTA sync with Google (selected contacts only). This will remove contacts from phone.
Restored Contacts using PIM Backup
They then Sync'd with Google Contacts.
You might want to delete all your contacts on Google first or make sure you setup what has priority for the sync in the direction you want. Only takes about 10 minutes and ALL info is then sync'd properly.
HTC Sync 2.0.33 works fine with EVO. It can sync Outlook Contacts and Calendar items. Despite the fact HTC sync application says you can only sync Outlook 2000/2003/2007 I'm using Outlook 2010 and it works fine. Automatic/manual sync options are configurable. It's more stable than microsoft's active stink...err sync, or windows mobile device center.
on the SD card
HTC Sync 2.0.31 is included on the EVO sd card - works fine for me with contacts and calendar on Outlook 2007 - a little slower than active sync but it works and I'm happy with it.
I'm running XP
Mule
There is a new version made for the EVO on HTC website. It is version HTCSync2.0.35.
Here is the link:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo-sprint/downloads#209
Thanks everybody ! Awesome to hear that it works well, especially on 2010 - that was one of my worries, since it's also what I'm running. Sweet !
outlook 2010 beta does not synch- even w 2.0.35
running win7 64bit & office 2010 beta, outlook 2010 does not show up in HTC Synch as a application w contacts or calandar available to sysnch (will only show the built-in windows contacts app as compatible.
Someone in this forum said it works, but does not say how, also, perhaps they are using the non-beta newly released profession version only available to corp accounts right now????? (consumers can't get RTM until June 14th).
Do I wait til June 14th and hope the RTM works, or does anyone have a work-arround?
Solutions for Outlook Sync
check out the following two solutions. they are both pay to play but will allow a 14 day demo period. Companionlink is a pretty decent google sync that uses google gmail for a conduit. I was skeptical but it does a great job. Seamless with the exception of Outlook notes. It even updates all contact notes etc. Calendar and task sync through google calendar. So far works pretty good. The second program was just was released this a.m. it is from dataviz, and is called roadsync 2.0. It uses exisiting htc contact, mail interface, but uses stand alone, tasks, calendar interface. This seems pretty decent as well just not as used to going to a second program for calendar. It is about a third of the price of the companionlink alternative.
using htc sync off the memory card... syncs great with calendar and contacts of outlook 2003. Wish wish wish it had notes... but with capacitive - is there even a decent notepad app?
People hate on me all the time for this - but sometimes I miss winmo (omnia or x51V)... was a little more mature and business oriented and tied in to outlook/office:
+synced great with outlook (contacts, calendar, email, NOTES - even with audio)
+whole operating screen would to go HDTV/Projector/monitor/tv through VGA or composite
+WMV/MPG/DIVX/XVID... all seemed to just work (TCPMP love!)
+Text to speech didn't sound like Hal while boards being slowly removed...
+Speech recognition - Voice Commander was TITS!!! LOVED IT. Handsfree!
+any bluetooth Keyboard, some mice - my laser keyboard all worked great!!! HID or SPP
+windows/startup let me easily kill off any task I didn't feel was necessary...
there was no amazon MP3 or other **** that felt it NEEDED to be ready to run at any moment if I didn't want it.
+ROOT out of the box!? Sometimes I think - would people really buy a computer if it only came with user and not admin permissions? and they couldn't delete bloatware and stuff?
+SDIO/CFIO? expansion possibilities - REALLY? an SD or even mini is too big?
+CF 32GB + SDHC 32GB = 64?!?
+IR (how fun is that at sports bars and magnolia/best buy, CES?)
+Fully functioning Office - word/excel/pp ... out of the box!
+RD/TSC
+WM mediaplayer(which had it's faults) DRM ecosystem... worked... so you could do rhapsody/amazon vod and stuff...
...
OK - sorry - I've vented. I'm done. X51V love forever! 6.5.3 was sweet! Screw you Dell and MS for killing a great system.
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running win7 64bit & office 2010 beta, outlook 2010 does not show up in HTC Synch as a application w contacts or calandar available to sysnch (will only show the built-in windows contacts app as compatible.
Someone in this forum said it works, but does not say how, also, perhaps they are using the non-beta newly released profession version only available to corp accounts right now????? (consumers can't get RTM until June 14th).
Do I wait til June 14th and hope the RTM works, or does anyone have a work-arround?
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I'm in a similar situation...
Running Win7 x64, Outlook 2010 x86
HTC Sync v 2.0.40 syncs my Outlook contacts with no problem, however I keep getting errors attempting to sync the calendar...
Unfortunately HTC Sync doesn't give me any real error message. I did a quick pass and could not locate any error logs either.
Any help? Was hoping this would be as seemless as ActiveSync/WMDC and I could avoid 2 to 3-step syncing.
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dfine1966 said:
There is a new version made for the EVO on HTC website. It is version HTCSync2.0.35.
Here is the link:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo-sprint/downloads#209
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does anyone have another link i can download this from??
Has the sync issue with Outlook 2010 64-bit been solved?

[Q] Will Windows Phone 7 Sync with Outlook that is not connected via Exchange?

The question on my mind is, will Windows Phone 7 Sync with Outlook that is not connected via Exchange?
I don't care about the emails but Contacts, Appointments & Tasks are important.
I hear about the Outlook connector but it seems to me that my PIM data will be moved over to LIVE account and then get synced.
I have a personal and a business domain that are hosted somewhere and I use outlook to get all my emails. I don't want to sync/copy my personal & business contacts on windows live mail. I have been waiting for WP7 to come out in lieu of getting a new mobile and this is not encouraging.
I assume Zune software will be upgraded to do most of the job.
Have I been reading wrong articles? Please guide me and correct me.
from what i read contacts/appointments will only be through activesync. i don't believe tasks are working as of yet.
how are you connecting outlook to your personal and business domains? to get anything more than email alone (pop/imap), you would have to have some protocol (e.g. exchange) in place to allow the rest to flow through.
Thanks
I am using POP3 at the moment and I don't believe the hosting provider gives me IMAP but I can live with it.
So ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center will still work to sync? I heard any talking to the device will only be done via Zune Software!
i thought sop too.. that zune software will be doing the sync insted of the active sync or windows device manager...
as MS will have some provision to sync with outlook or express...
i am waiting for the devices to be out in the market..
dell and HTC HDD is the one i am looking for...
I posted a question in MSDN forums and I am not getting clears answers there.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...s/thread/fb28aeec-7dbb-4c92-890a-a7763ae82b60
The Windows Phone Radio podcast has answered this question and they say that there is full Outlook integration, and that's aside from the already robust Exchange ActiveSync capabilities.
Thank you. That is a sigh of relief. I am going to get one now as soon as possible.
Spoke too soon. Other posts clarify that it will not be supported.
I cannot believe that WP7 does not sync with outlook. This is a dealbreaker for me, I have to be able to sync my work laptops outlook calendar and contacts with my phone!!
I was just about to buy one, looks like I`ll be forced to buy android.
Bummer.
WP7 will sync with outlook but not OFFLINE outlook i.e. Outlook not connected to Exchange or Cloud. So if you want to move your contacts and all apointments from PST file to WP7, you have to sync them to the cloud first.
I was hunting around last night looking for a solution to this, and the only software I can find which will perform a periodic sync of my work outlook calendar up into the cloud is google calendar sync - the irony that I`m forced to use google to solve this problem is not lost on me!!
I know there is a microsoft supplied outlook addin for hotmail - but its not much good for this problem - you have to MANUALLY drag appointments from outlook calendar to get them up into the cloud.
I would be interested to hear how others are going to address this problem - are there other solutions out there??
Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.
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Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.
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I think theres lot of ways round this, I just posted one method already!!!
Interested to hear how others will approach it.
That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.
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That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.
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I hear you, and Im not super keen on the concept either.
The only smartphone that nativley supports local outlook sync is iphone.
Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?
This doesn't sound encouraging.
I too have a similar issue. My company doesn't allow connecting to the Exchange server from personal phones and local Outlook sync was the only way for me to keep track of the meetings / tasks (also contacts) through my personal phone (Fuze).
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Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?
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There is no specific technical barrier that stops this. Its a conscious design decision to leave it out.
And theres no guarantee that MS` new closed approach to WP7 will mean that 3rd parties are allowed to write a local sync solution, either. Time will tell on that one.
The cloud is the future, aparrently, like it or not.
I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.
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I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.
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Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.
scoob101 said:
Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.
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Very little is out there about me that I don't want out there. There's a difference between what is out there and what PERSONAL information I have in Outlook, which includes my diary, past and present, things I need to do, notes I make, etc.
I plan to look at WP7 once the devices are out and find out how things work myself before making a judgement either way. At the moment it's all speculation because very few people have their hands on one.

[Q] Best way to sync with Outlook?

I now have the T-Mobile Samsung GalaxyS2, but "live" in the MS Office Outlook world & have my own e-mail/server - I do not use Google mail or calendars or contacts, or anyone else's services. Critical syncs are contacts (@900), notes and calendar, w/recurring events. I know, I know, Android and MS Office don't like each other. But T-Mobile doesn't have the iPhone and I wanted a web friendly device (ie - not Blackberry). Have purchased Companionlink/DejaOffice and spent much time talking to their tech staff. They say the Samsung Galaxy S2 is especially difficult for their software to work with. Constant issues of duplicates and lack of true 2-way sync, even if settings look right. In the entire T-Mobile Samsung GalaxyS2 forum, I couldn't find a single match to "sync with Outlook". I thought everyone with a corporate job lived in Outlook. Is there some obvious solution I am not aware of? Please help. Also - what about upgrading to IceCream Sandwich? I heard this might have some sort of native sync with Outlook? Really appreciate any good advise. Thank you, AMWM
I've been using Touchdown for well over a year now and couldn't do without it. It's worth much more than the $20 license fee.
You say you have your own mail server, is it an exchange server??? If it is the built in exchange client works for me, provided the exchange server is configured correctly ..
I was syncing, Mail, Contacts, Calendar, and Tasks ... But I decided I did not like exchange , migrated to google hosted mail ....
Touchdown is worth the expense if you sync to exchange.
Using tapatalk on my Galaxy 2 to post this!
Syncing to Outlook - Touchdown not an option with real Office & POP3 server
Hello, and I really appreciate the three replies so far. Unfortunately, Touchdown doesn't seem to be an option for a true two-way seamless sync with real Office Outlook, for someone using their own POP3 server. I looked up Touchdown, and it indicates the following on the main page:
Note:TouchDown does not work with POP3 or IMAP servers
Note:TouchDown requires a server, and does not work with Outlook directly
I do not use Exchange, I use real Office, and my e-mail server is a POP3 server. And I don't want to "push" info, per se, I need a true "sync both ways" so that all info entered into my PC and all info entered into my phone will sync with each other, with latest changes kept. My old Palm Treo with Windows Mobile synced perfectly, Blackberries sync perfectly, and I am told the iPhone will sync perfectly as well. I just assumed Android would also - I thought regular Outlook was the most commonly used contacts/calendar/tasks/notes for professionals.
How is everyone else doing this?
p.s. I spent $40 on Companionlink, which is not working well. I am not afraid to invest in the right product, I'm just afraid that Android is inherently the wrong platform for me. But since I just spent $530 on this phone, I need to figure out how to make it work.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Hmm having problem syncing my exchange mail too live.com too :s
Droiding from sgh-t989
There is another way to do it , not quite as seamless but it works just fine, actually there are a few apps that do it ...
Setup your gmail account on the phone , you need one anyway for the market ..
Setup one of the many apps to sync your outlook to your gmail ...
On the phone setup your gmail account to ONLY sync Calendar, and Contacts, uncheck mail ...
Setup the email on the app to pop your mail, make sure both phone and outlook are set to leave mail on server , for however long you need ...
Wanting to directly sync Android with Outlook...
Dear tcboo,
Thank you very much. I already have the Google acct set up on the phone, I have already purchased Companionlink, which will also sync Outlook with Google, and my phone already pops my mail directly, leaving everything on the server, so the mail is not a sync issue at all.
So if I use Gmail as an indirect sync facilitator.....What about Notes and Tasks? And how does this indirect 3-way sync insure that most recent changes are kept if the two devices don't speak directly? I've also now heard that Google calendar doesn't do well with all of the recurring calendar events I have on my Outlook.
So Android really won't talk to Outlook? If Apple can do it, why not Google/Android? It's not like Microsoft is better friends with Apple than they are with Google, and if they let the iPhone sync directly with Office, why can't Google get them to let Android sync directly? This doesn't make sense to me. I thought this could not really be the case, and I must be missing something obvious. But I guess Google isn't getting the kind of outcry or backlash I would have expected. Maybe all the Office people just stick with Blackberries and iPhones?
Any news if ICS will sync directly? I really do want a simple, direct fully functional (including notes and tasks & reoccurring calendar events) wireless sync, and it's sounding like I might have to limp along until I can justify a different phone & OS.
Again, though, I really appreciate your effort & advice.
Best regards,
AMWM
The trick is to make sure you leave outlook open and it is set to sync on change ..
I think the iPhone syncs directly , because they just want to put the slam on M$ where Android is not that worried about M$ ...
You would be surprised to find out how many corporations are going to Google hosted mail , M$ still rules it, but not by as much as they did ...
It is not a perfect solution, that is the problem when you are tied to a proprietary system like Outlook, you either pay through the nose to get software to force it to do what you want or , you adapt the way you do things ...
I never had any issues with the calendar, I will try and find the app I used to sync, I quit using outlook a while back but I may still have the link, if I can find it I will post it ...
Surprised Companionlink isn't working for you. It's pretty well rated. I'd be curious to know what it doesn't do well for you... Not sure there's another product out there which syncs Outlook to a phone.
Direct Outlook Sync Looking Up w/Companionlink!!!
You are right - Companionlink is the only game out there for what I want, at least according to my research. I have had Companionlink since Oct when I got my phone, with constant issues. They told me it is not an Android issue; it is specifically a Samsung GS2 issue.
Well, they are working hard to fix it. They have updated the Companionlink again, so I updated that on my PC. They have a Beta version of the DejaOffice App which they instructed me to down load from their website. Instructions are:
"First, please update to the current in-house beta of CompanionLink (companionlinkDOTcom/inhouse[/url]) and the beta of DejaOffice (dejaofficeDOTcom/androidapp)."
please sub DOT with . - it wouldn't let me post the actual websites
You have to make certain to allow downloading non-market apps on your phone, as this Beta version isn't in the App store yet. Also - make sure that your phone is set to save contacts to the Google acct, not to Phone. Well, I have done this, wiped everything on the phone, did an initial 1-way sync from Outlook to populate the phone (which always worked okay), & then tested some true 2-way syncs. Of course make certain the Companionlink sync set-up is correct (sync both ways, latest changes kept). Also - you cannot use Android calendar, and do not tell it to sync to Android calendar. just put the Deja Calendar icon where you want it. But you do use the phone contact button. Also, they recommend turning off the Google Sync, which I have done.
It is working!!! I am cautiously optimistic. I have just successfully 2-way synced changes to calendar, contacts and notes, and both phone & PC updated correctly. Also - I am doing this as a wi-fi sync, which is important to me. You just have to make sure wi-fi settings are correct. This is a first. I think the beta changes have fixed the major issues. So if you are going to buy Companionlink, make sure you are getting the beta of both Companionlink and DejaOffice - do not bother downloading the Android Market App of DejaOffice.
Good luck!!

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