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when will we get a wm7 rom?

deepsingh said:
when will we get a wm7 rom?
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It's probably a bit too early to tell. I'm not sure if there's even an exact date on when wp7 will come out. And even when that arrives, it'll be quite a while until we can make a ROM of it to work on the tp2/tilt2.

I'm going to go with never. There are so many giant obstacles which make it incredibly unlikely that this device can even run Windows Mobile 7, let alone have a working Windows Mobile 7 ROM hacked onto it. AFAIK, it's just about impossible to put WM7 onto the Rhodium.

but would you even want it.

deepsingh said:
when will we get a wm7 rom?
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There is a dedicated section for WP7, please read there to see the working developement

I don't understand what anyone would really gain in going to WM7.... I like 6.5 just fine, especially with a cooked ROM.
Scott

The Jack of Clubs said:
but would you even want it.
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I've tried out wp7 skins from SPB Mobile Shell and...if the skin is anywhere near the actual wp7 OS, count me out...hate it hate it hate it...
I messed arouns with it for 10 minutes...and then that was that...
hated it.

telegraph0000 said:
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I've tried out wp7 skins from SPB Mobile Shell and...if the skin is anywhere near the actual wp7 OS, count me out...hate it hate it hate it...
I messed arouns with it for 10 minutes...and then that was that...
hated it.
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no multitasking, no flash card, encrypted filesystem, apps only from marketplace, no custom UI, PC access only via zune software...
might as well call it wPhone

i know right. its such a step backwards. all it has good is some flashy animations. i still think htc can design a better interface. android is picking up where wm is leaving off and youll be able to run android from your rhodium!

The Jack of Clubs said:
i know right. its such a step backwards. all it has good is some flashy animations. i still think htc can design a better interface. android is picking up where wm is leaving off and youll be able to run android from your rhodium!
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i like WM.65 on my TP2, but my next phone will definitely be an android phone

[Q] Is it posible to downgrade a windows phone 7 or android to windows mobile 6.5

Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian

Nope. Not possible.
Why would you expect your customers to hack their devices to install WM 6.5 just to run your company's software (which would kill their warranty for the device) even if it was possible?

Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.

People seem to think phones are like PCs... They aren't.
Downgrading is easy. Bring the WP7 devices back and get HD2s or Tilts/TouchPro's, etc. Samsung Jacks or Epix if you're into that formfactor.

I would never expect anyone to do this on my request
it was actulaly the client that asked me My only reply was that I would look into it
regards Christian Andersen

Its not possible but on the bright side, there will be a big update in Jan

candersen said:
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
I ask this because we are dropping support for windows phone but it is going to take a while for us to do the port to android and our clients are having trouble geting devices that can run our current software.
Regards Christian
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why are you dropping support for 6.5? and why not make a wp7 port, from what I've heard, it's not that hard.

There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian

tboy2000 said:
Huh! Why would someone buy a windows phone only then to install wm 6.5 or whatever? If they wanted 6.5 they would not have bought a windows phone 7 in the first place and bought the older phones.
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For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010

Martice said:
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
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sorry but these were only rumoured and as you can already see, the htc trophy is now the HTC 7 Trophy...

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ

Fa310tx said:
I second that...
The biggest point of my phone is for fpsece (psx emulator).
I want snapdragon, no slideout keyboard, and cdma (verizon customer).
I've considered the lg fathom, but I'm not sold on it.
Optimally, I'd want a proper d-pad on the front, but I think those are a thing of the past.
JJ
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Touch control are koo but arent a good replacement for d-pads imo...mainly for games. Maybe one day some finds a way to have a slider cell that has dedicated game keys like a psp & physical kb like the tp2.

candersen said:
There are a few reasons that we cant port to Windows Phone 7.
The main reason is the same reason why.
Firefox and Skype will not be avalible on Phone 7.
Our code base is cross platform and is written in C++.
and even if we wanted to develop in something like silverlight or XNA the lack of database and sockets would stop our application dead.
So we are dropping all windows development and are moving our mobile platform to Android and IPhone
Regards Christian
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I'm guessing you've done 0 development on WP7?

candersen said:
Is it posible to install windows mobile 6.5 on an windows phone 7 or android phone ?
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HTC support said it would be possible.

pimppoet said:
For me its because I want the new hardware of wp7 but not the dumbed down os.
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then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.

cbebop7 said:
then why not get a Nexus S and install whatever u want. That way u can troll on the Android forums instead of the dumbed down WP7 forums.
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For me because it doenst have a keyboard..

nurps said:
For me because it doenst have a keyboard..
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then get a mytouch 4g....

Doesnt have a keyboard.

nurps said:
Doesnt have a keyboard.
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I meant the g2...

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How does a deaf person use a cell phone?

Miami_Son said:
How does a deaf person use a cell phone?
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Calling is one of the less important aspects of my phone for me. These days, calling them cell phones is kinda a misnomer, they're really more like pocket computers with mobile data.

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Deafcyclist said:
I am still interested in seeing what other OS there is for the rhodium itself. Haven't tried ubuntu yet but I would rather see if I can find something a little less cumbersome and more minimal.
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Try adding a swap file to Rhobuntu (look out, this will shorten your SD card's life), then try simply stripping away things that came with the build and that you don't need ...

Good luck with your research i'm tired of trying to make a wonderful world putting the Android on my tp2, and usually only lasts 2 days and crash, will never be the same as a native OS.

atomiq said:
Good luck with your research i'm tired of trying to make a wonderful world putting the Android on my tp2, and usually only lasts 2 days and crash, will never be the same as a native OS.
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Didn't realize that is what this project was about... oh wait, it's not.
Perhaps one day, but at present, if you think Android is supposed to replace WinMo you are sorely mistaken. Have fun with WinMo!

Windows XXP would be a great OS for our TP2. It could be possable. Google XPPHONE!

Deafcyclist said:
Just wondering if there's any other OS out there that I can somehow install on my tilt2? I'm extremely curious to see how it would look with a minimalist OS myself. Like simbian or even browserlinux (a variant of puppy linux) with working data connection, heh. I bet that it would be blazing fast (especially if there are no voice component to the OS, as I'm deaf myself)
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Fedora, Gentoo and Debian ARM builds

atomiq said:
Good luck with your research i'm tired of trying to make a wonderful world putting the Android on my tp2, and usually only lasts 2 days and crash, will never be the same as a native OS.
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As far as I remember, dozens of disclaimers all around the forum beware people of Xdandroid being an experiment, and to take it as it is.
For me, it's already more than better than WinMo as it is, for everyday use.
It's my primary phone OS.

porkenhimer said:
Windows XXP would be a great OS for our TP2. It could be possable. Google XPPHONE!
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What about Windows 7 embedded? What windows mobile 7 is based off.

Hey we maybe we can run windows 7 ultimate with cod black ops and nvidia stereophonic 3D on our phones, that would be great!!
I don't know what makes me laugh how idiot you are or how intelligent I am

husam666 said:
Hey we maybe we can run windows 7 ultimate with cod black ops and nvidia stereophonic 3D on our phones, that would be great!!
I don't know what makes me laugh how idiot you are or how intelligent I am
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That's amazing because I always though brains found in the head. Your certainly an ass.

textron said:
That's amazing because I always though brains found in the head.
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correction:brains are found in MY head
I don't think reloading this page over and over will do you any good,
And the OP simply requested another OS not stupid OS suggestions, WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE STAY ON TOPIC
And here's a fact for all of you guys:
OUR PHONES ARE DESIGNED TO RUN WINDOWS MOBILE 6.1 OR 6.5 NOT 6.5.X, ANDROID OR UBUNTU
so, just thank developers that they got these OS's working on our Rhodiums and shut it, or make your own OS
Note for the OP: I don't mean you

husam666 said:
correction:brains are found in MY head
I don't think reloading this page over and over will do you any good,
And the OP simply requested another OS not stupid OS suggestions, WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE STAY ON TOPIC
And here's a fact for all of you guys:
OUR PHONES ARE DESIGNED TO RUN WINDOWS MOBILE 6.1 OR 6.5 NOT 6.5.X, ANDROID OR UBUNTU
so, just thank developers that they got these OS's working on our Rhodiums and shut it, or make your own OS
Note for the OP: I don't mean you
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The obvious way to stay on topic is keep your hands off the keyboard and ignore and let it die. Considering your vastly superior intellect it should prevent you stooping to stupidity and petty insults. My final words... continue to contribute your intellect.

textron said:
The obvious way to stay on topic is keep your hands off the keyboard and ignore and let it die. Considering your vastly superior intellect it should prevent you stooping to stupidity and petty insults. My final words... continue to contribute your intellect.
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nah i like to get noobs
this is the only way they learn to search
so are we cool now?

husam666 said:
nah i like to get noobs
this is the only way they learn to search
so are we cool now?
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I never knew there was a problem. I am here to run Android and have been for a while. I just had questions that came up blank on search

Any Android sucks logo's I can use as forum signature?

Hey guys, I've been looking everywhere on XDA and on bing but cannot find any forum icons or signatures to use. I'm looking for broken android robots or something to show that I can't stand android. Since this is the WP forum, obviously I'm all for WP and would love to see a windows logo eating the android robot or something. I don't care I just want to find something to represent my opinion on this. If anyone has any suggestions I would very much appreciate it. I've been searching all yesterday, late last night and all today but still have found nothing.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions, thankyou very much.

Doubt it, most of us aren't so petty.

Here's a good one
http://www.technorotic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/pipi-android_t.jpg
Here's another

Lol. Gtfo this Forum. Don't talk sh... like that on a forum which is especially designed for android.
Galaxy GT-I9000 spoke

>stylz said:
Lol. Gtfo this Forum. Don't talk sh... like that on a forum which is especially designed for android.
Galaxy GT-I9000 spoke
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What forum are you talking about? Xda was originally a Windows Mobile forum (PocketPC) http://web.archive.org/web/20060508163548/http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php

I like android too..
I don't understand being a fanboy.
The only os I don't personally like is ios, because it's boring imo.

jessenic said:
What forum are you talking about? Xda was originally a Windows Mobile forum (PocketPC) http://web.archive.org/web/20060508163548/http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php
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In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.

MartyLK said:
In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.
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I disagree. Microsoft naturally progressed into quality. Winmo made a great PDA but it, like android, simply didn't make for a good phone. Wp7 chose user experience. Android chose pocket PC.

MartyLK said:
In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.
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While true, I have to admit that I have never seen a WM/PocketPC device. First mobile windows OS I saw was WP7 in a local store, loved it and bought the omnia 7. The salesman tried to tell me that android is better and tried to sell me a galaxy s, almost bought it but then it crashed while he was showing it... Haven't regretted choosing wp7 over android. I know some android fanboys who have jumped over to wp7 after seeing my omnia 7...

jessenic said:
While true, I have to admit that I have never seen a WM/PocketPC device. First mobile windows OS I saw was WP7 in a local store, loved it and bought the omnia 7. The salesman tried to tell me that android is better and tried to sell me a galaxy s, almost bought it but then it crashed while he was showing it... Haven't regretted chooesing wp7 over android. I know some android fanboys who have jumped over to wp7 after seeing my omnia 7...
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LOL...I had a similar experience when I took my HTC Inspire to a local AT&T to have them look at a compass issue. The lady serving me owned an Inspire and attempted to install a compass from the market to see if her Inspire would do what mine was doing. She couldn't do it because her Inspire froze up while trying to install a compass and she had to borrow someone else's Inspire.
WP7 is the sweet one, for sure. To me it's a work of art. But I can't wait for MS to get behind it like they did with the XBOX and like Google does with Android. If and when MS does that, the competition will quake and shiver in fear.

Android isn't the problem....it's the certain fandroids that ruin it...

How is google behind android? It's a half-assed ad platform.

z33dev33l said:
How is google behind android? It's a half-assed ad platform.
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if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs

scoobysnacks said:
if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs
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Same here. I even still like WinMo. Just wish there was better app support for it.

scoobysnacks said:
if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs
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nor do I, I don't see it developing quickly. Gingerbread brought little more than a pallet swap, the last truly big update was eclair, and ICS still lags like crazy even on the flagship.

I'm with the others—don't be petty, to each his own, yada yada.
That said, I just had to look for the images anyway.

z33dev33l said:
nor do I, I don't see it developing quickly. Gingerbread brought little more than a pallet swap, the last truly big update was eclair, and ICS still lags like crazy even on the flagship.
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what? No it doesn't...
Obviously you didn't try it.
I don't understand making up bs just to try to make your opinion valid.
Sounds like n8ter...
Ics included hardware acceleration which was a huge step imo

ICS doesnt include hardware acceleration outside of the browser. That was a rumor that originated here on XDA. Compared to the competitors it's downright sluggish

z33dev33l said:
ICS doesnt include hardware acceleration outside of the browser. That was a rumor that originated here on XDA. Compared to the competitors it's downright sluggish
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yes it does..
I dunno where you get your info lol

scoobysnacks said:
yes it does..
I dunno where you get your info lol
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That's cool. Like I say, Google stands behind Android and supports it. People like Steve Woz and that WP7 dude who left for Google know where the progress is being made. Interesting times.

Any way I can install 3rd party themes on Windows RT?

Hello everyone, I might came with a dumb question, but I'd like to know if there's any posibility to make Windows RT (8.0 or 8.1 Jailbroken) able to install 3rd party themes. If there's any way, then how? I've been searching everywhere and there wasn't anything for Windows RT or atleast a way without 3rd party software usage... But, if there's any posibility, it would be very nice..

It has been a while since waiting for answers and nobody had replied yet... Or just the silence might mean no..

r4d0n7 said:
It has been a while since waiting for answers and nobody had replied yet... Or just the silence might mean no..
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There is no way. Every theme requires an x86 exe file. RT only support ARM exe files

Qiangong2 said:
There is no way. Every theme requires an x86 exe file. RT only support ARM exe files
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But these .exe can be recompiled for arm
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-compile-and-port-win32-apps-for-windows-rt/

thandiBear said:
But these .exe can be recompiled for arm
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-compile-and-port-win32-apps-for-windows-rt/
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Yes, but the themes he was talking about are not available for ARM

Qiangong2 said:
Yes, but the themes he was talking about are not available for ARM
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How about win86emu

thandiBear said:
How about win86emu
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That doesn't support low level calls that themes require. That's also the reason you cannot run a full version of microsoft office.

Qiangong2 said:
That doesn't support low level calls that themes require. That's also the reason you cannot run a full version of microsoft office.
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Hmm I see
But I'm still content with what I've got. Only earlier this week did I come to know that Windows RT could be jailbroken. Up until now I used my surface only as a power bank for my phone, or occasionally for editing a word document.
I had almost given up on it, but it's good to see an active XDA community even for such an old device.

thandiBear said:
Hmm I see
But I'm still content with what I've got. Only earlier this week did I come to know that Windows RT could be jailbroken. Up until now I used my surface only as a power bank for my phone, or occasionally for editing a word document.
I had almost given up on it, but it's good to see an active XDA community even for such an old device.
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My surface 2 has been my only laptop for the past 3 years and I haven't needed anything more. I have my linux desktop for dev purposes, but I mainly use my surface 2 for work.

Qiangong2 said:
My surface 2 has been my only laptop for the past 3 years and I haven't needed anything more. I have my linux desktop for dev purposes, but I mainly use my surface 2 for work.
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Yep. Surface RT has been my only windows device for the last 3.5 years as well. I got it as a gift. Initially I was skeptical about whether it would be of any use for me apart from light web browsing or documents editing and I was right for the most part.
But Android has come a long way and to be honest I haven't missed windows as much as I had thought I would. I'm not a developer, so having an Android phone as a daily driver is just enough for me.
However it's always better to use every device you own to it's full potential. A potential that windows RT could never achieve under Microsoft's money minded approach towards it