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Please can you confirm me if after the Rom Manager patition tool I should have 3,18gb of FAT32 or more?
I've done 0mb for the swap and 512bmb for the EXT
Am I missing some space?
Many thanks
Best regards
3.1 + .5 is close to right. Might be a bit low but not by more then 100 MB
Disk drives never have the right capacity because of formatting and companies use 1000 MB = 1 GB when it should be 1024
Thanks
I'm asking this beacause before I redid the partitions (the sd was already partitioned) with rom manager, I crearly remember that the fat32 was something like 3.66.
Is there any way or program to get the lost space back?
Sir.Aurox said:
Thanks
I'm asking this beacause before I redid the partitions (the sd was already partitioned) with rom manager, I crearly remember that the fat32 was something like 3.66.
Is there any way or program to get the lost space back?
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you havent lost any space, as the previous poster said, with a 4gig sd card, you dont get 4gig of useable space. because of the way its formatted and the block sizes you would probably get about 3.6 - 3.7gb of space on the card.....
Thanks you too mate for the help
One last noobish question
How can I install apps on the EXT partition ?
Sir.Aurox said:
Thanks you too mate for the help
One last noobish question
How can I install apps on the EXT partition ?
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if your using a rom with apps2sd and have an ext partiton on your card, apps will automatically be installed to /system/sd/app/ (the ext partiton) so you dont need to do anything
Many thanks mate for the help
I'm currently on Leedroid 2.2d
Is there a free program to keep an eye on this partition free space ?
Leedroid have a2sd so you should be fine and "quick system info" is a great app for that purpose.
Hey guys,what's up?
So...I am running AuraxTSense 8.0 on my phone and have made an ext4 about 600Mb partition for Apps2SD.Recently I installed Pocket Legends on my phone along with some other games and all was ok.However,yesterday I tried to update Pocket Legends from the Market and it said that there is limited space on my phone and it cannot update.I then checked in my settings and I had 23 Mb free on my phone.I tried moving all apps to SD with Titanium Backup(excluding Launchers and widgets) and it persists that I only have that much space.What is going on?
Also,when choosing to install apps on external storage in Spare Parts,does it mean Apps2SD+ partition or froyo Apps2SD?
C'mon,no one yet?
tolis626 said:
C'mon,no one yet?
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i dont have this problem anymore, i have lots of apps installed and still have 1.6GB of internal storage lol
AndroHero said:
i dont have this problem anymore, i have lots of apps installed and still have 1.6GB of internal storage lol
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Yeah,I know.You're using the data2SD thing.I've seen you in that thread.Bastard!
I however am using the good old apps2ext,with an ext4 partition.What about that?
Thanks for the reply btw!
I've been having much the same problem.
It would seem that no matter how many apps I move to the SD card, I don't actually get all that more free space on the phone.
A 'df' in the terminal shows me that I've got plenty of space in /system, but /data is nearly full. Nearly half of that is in /data/dalvik-cache.
So I wiped the dalvik cache from recovery and now it's okay again.. for the time being.
Maybe PocketLegends requires a lot of space in /data? Or something was wrong with the update?
ok guys heres the deal, when you use apps2sd what is does is create a symlink between /data/app/, the dalvik-cache and the ext partition on your sd card. the downside of this method is, /data/data/ remains on your phone, /data/data. holds all your settings, app data and other things, and this is where your space is going, one great way for s-off users to improve there situations, is to change the MTD Partitions on there device, basically taking space from /system and /cache and adding this to /data, you can reclaim and extra 50mb+ using this method
Thanks for explaining, AndroHero.
Right now, I have it set with 250 MB /system, 147 MB /data and 40 MB /cache.
I suppose if I'm running out of space on /data but not on /system, then I could repartition again.
martijn_bakker said:
Thanks for explaining, AndroHero.
Right now, I have it set with 250 MB /system, 147 MB /data and 40 MB /cache.
I suppose if I'm running out of space on /data but not on /system, then I could repartition again.
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if your really stingy with /system and remove all the htc apps and widgets you dont use, you can get /system down to 170-180mb that would give you 70-80mb of space back, heres another good tip, there is no point having flash player in /system as its always going to be updated, if you remove installflashplayer.apk from /system/app/ and the associated libflashplayer.so in /system/lib/, that gives you and extra 15mb straight away
AndroHero said:
if your really stingy with /system and remove all the htc apps and widgets you dont use, you can get /system down to 170-180mb that would give you 70-80mb of space back, heres another good tip, there is no point having flash player in /system as its always going to be updated, if you remove installflashplayer.apk from /system/app/ and the associated libflashplayer.so in /system/lib/, that gives you and extra 15mb straight away
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I'd say it's easier to use the data2sd trick
Absolutely..
WTB 16GB Class 10 SD
martijn_bakker said:
Absolutely..
WTB 16GB Class 10 SD
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You should refrain from making a partition bigger than 2GB for DATA2SD. Issues have been reported, specially with market.
Read thoroughly the DATA2SD thread to gather all informations
I have been using a custom ROM for a while now and I have been seeing in the thread that many people are using ext4.
I have asked many times in the thread and recieved no reply.
So my question to you is what is "ext4" and what bennifit will it be to me as a Desire owner.
Thanks
wh000sher
1. Google is your friend
EXT4 is a file format used by Linux (Android = Linux). When threads talk about EXT4, they are referring to creating an EXT4 partition on your SD-Card e.g. have 14GB FAT32 and 1GB EXT4 (from 16GB SD-Card.. 1GB is always non-existent)
What having an EXT4 partition enables you to do, is to have Apps/Data2EXT scripts which move apps to the EXT partition, giving you a lot more internal space.
bortak said:
1. Google is your friend
EXT4 is a file format used by Linux (Android = Linux). When threads talk about EXT4, they are referring to creating an EXT4 partition on your SD-Card e.g. have 14GB FAT32 and 1GB EXT4 (from 16GB SD-Card.. 1GB is always non-existent)
What having an EXT4 partition enables you to do, is to have Apps/Data2EXT scripts which move apps to the EXT partition, giving you a lot more internal space.
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I smell a follow up question lurking...
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stankyou said:
I smell a follow up question lurking...
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How do I make EXT4 -__-
Which Ext4 is the best for me?
777ace said:
Which Ext4 is the best for me?
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For a second there, I thought you were serious. Almost had me bro, almost had me.
bortak said:
For a second there, I thought you were serious. Almost had me bro, almost had me.
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Hahaha
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bortak said:
1. Google is your friend
EXT4 is a file format used by Linux (Android = Linux). When threads talk about EXT4, they are referring to creating an EXT4 partition on your SD-Card e.g. have 14GB FAT32 and 1GB EXT4 (from 16GB SD-Card.. 1GB is always non-existent)
What having an EXT4 partition enables you to do, is to have Apps/Data2EXT scripts which move apps to the EXT partition, giving you a lot more internal space.
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Ah okay and can't I Do that already with the built in app moving??
I know how to make the ext4 but didn't know why I would want to?
Wh000sher said:
Ah okay and can't I Do that already with the built in app moving??
I know how to make the ext4 but didn't know why I would want to?
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Moving some of the app data to the sd-card is different to having an EXT partition and A2SD.
If you activate A2SD, the system will install and store your apps on the EXT partition, and your internal memory will not be filled up, and will remain at xxxMB. Furthermore, with an EXT partition you can use D2EXT, which makes your phone use the EXT partition as the data partition, so if you have 1GB EXT4, your phone will see 1GB memory.
If you use the inbuilt "move to sdcard" function, it only moves some of the sd-card to the android-secure folder on your sd-card, however your internal memory is still used up.
In addition, moving apps to sd-ext partition doesn't break app widgets like the stock app2sd method that Gingerbread use.
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In addition, moving apps to sd-ext partition doesn't break app widgets like the stock app2sd method that Gingerbread use.
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Reason: With A2SD / DATA2SD / etc. Android still "thinks and tells" the Apps are still installed in the internal memory (at least this tells me my logic).
MatDrOiD said:
Reason: With A2SD / DATA2SD / etc. Android still "thinks and tells" the Apps are still installed in the internal memory (at least this tells me my logic).
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That's how I see it as well. And makes apps available to use when you have it on usb transfer mode.
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MatDrOiD said:
Reason: With A2SD / DATA2SD / etc. Android still "thinks and tells" the Apps are still installed in the internal memory (at least this tells me my logic).
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MatDrOid, since you are also on MW. How do I make use of my ext4 partition I created?
I am guessing there is a way to just move to the ext4 via a app?
Wh000sher said:
MatDrOid, since you are also on MW. How do I make use of my ext4 partition I created?
I am guessing there is a way to just move to the ext4 via a app?
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if it's MW based on oxygen, instructions on how to enable ext4 partition are in the first post, no need to use an app.
No it's the cm version using s2e and I think it's working lol
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ext4 creation
neither easeus or minitool has an option to create ext4. how do i create the ext4? and i'm going to be dual booting wp7, so should it look like this:
ext4
fat32
wp7 partition
or like this:
fat32
ext4
wp7 partition
??? plz help
noobinius said:
neither easeus or minitool has an option to create ext4. how do i create the ext4? and i'm going to be dual booting wp7, so should it look like this:
ext4
fat32
wp7 partition
or like this:
fat32
ext4
wp7 partition
??? plz help
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backup your sd card 1st
then use only 4ext recovery (requires s-off to change recovery) or gparted to create your partition (step 5 here)
sorry if i bump old post
Can i access my internal memory once i use Ext4?
nestleomega said:
sorry if i bump old post
Can i access my internal memory once i use Ext4?
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With a root file explorer.
Hey,I am going to "clean" install CM 7.2 Stable.I am done with Custom MTD Partitions and want to set up an ext partition on the SD card and move apps there.
Preparing for "S2E"(simple2ext:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&hl=en )
I have got 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size
(2)Swap size
And what should it be ? Ext2 or Ext4 ?
According to this :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
“Choose Ext2, Ext3 or Ext4 for partition type based on whether your kernel supports Ext4. If it does choose it! If you don't know choose Ext2 to be safe.” Now how to find out whether your kernel supports it or not ?
Does "swap" really make any difference ?What’s up with this “swap” partition ?
It’s so confusing.Some people claim that “swap” is like virtual RAM and more RAM means a more efficient (and faster) device.
Here are the posts supporting “swap” :
http://www.mod2xtreme.com/showthrea...crease-RAM-using-Swap-File-and-Swap-Partition
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...-the-wildfire/page__gopid__330791#entry330791
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/
While according to “Cyanogenmod” (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Swap_and_Compcache ) and some member swap doesn’t make any diff .on android devices.
If that’s true and swape is useless then why so many forums going gaga over it on XDA at the first place ???It makes no sense. So bewildering.
Any suggestion ?Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
You should try 256Mb or 512Mb ext2 partition as per your convenience with 0 swap size.
After partitioning your card you need to install an a2sd script and use a2sdgui app to move apps.
Or else you could install link2sd app and i guess that moves apps to ext partition without needing a script.(haven't tried it though)
Wasimk32 said:
You should try 256Mb or 512Mb ext2 partition as per your convenience with 0 swap size.
After partitioning your card you need to install an a2sd script and use a2sdgui app to move apps.
Or else you could install link2sd app and i guess that moves apps to ext partition without needing a script.(haven't tried it though)
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Thanks for the reply,so you mean "swap" doesn't make any difference in speed and efficiency ?
I am a bit baffled.How about "S2E (simple2ext)" method ?
I have read about that here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249
Is that a good idea ?Any suggestion ?Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
optimusodd said:
Thanks for the reply,so you mean "swap" doesn't make any difference in speed and efficiency ?
I am a bit baffled.How about "S2E (simple2ext)" method ?
I have read about that here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249
Is that a good idea ?Any suggestion ?Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Have a nandroid backup and give it a try.
Wasimk32 said:
Have a nandroid backup and give it a try.
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Okay,What about "swap" ?
Why do some guys use swap ?Is it unnecessary ?
Here ost #12:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249&page=2
What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?
optimusodd said:
Okay,What about "swap" ?
Why do some guys use swap ?Is it unnecessary ?
Here ost #12:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249&page=2
What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?
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Swap is used when you run out of RAM space.I dont think we need it on our wildfire.Just select 0 as swap size.create SD partition from recovery,that would be easy as you don't need to be confused between ext2 or ext4.
Wasimk32 said:
Swap is used when you run out of RAM space.I dont think we need it on our wildfire.Just select 0 as swap size.create SD partition from recovery,that would be easy as you don't need to be confused between ext2 or ext4.
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I have read in some forums that "swap" increases the RAM i.e more speed and efficiency,no ???
Here is the page:
http://www.mod2xtreme.com/showthread.php?13050-SGY-GUIDE-Increase-RAM-using-Swap-File-and-Swap-Partition
Just wondering,if that can be done on Wildfire.
Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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Scratch0805 said:
Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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That means this "swap" thing is just a hype and of no use on Android devices ?
optimusodd said:
That means this "swap" thing is just a hype and of no use on Android devices ?
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You've kind of answered your own question with the link you've provided, if you think swap may be worth using, backup your SD card create a swap partition and give it a run for a while, if you think it isnt then backup everything again and create a partition without it. I had swap enabled when I first created a partition but saw no benefit at all.
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You've kind of answered your own question with the link you've provided, if you think swap may be worth using, backup your SD card create a swap partition and give it a run for a while, if you think it isnt then backup everything again and create a partition without it. I had swap enabled when I first created a partition but saw no benefit at all.
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Okay,I am thinking of giving this "swap" thing a try.:fingers-crossed:
Again,I have got a 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size (What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?)
(2)Swap size
Any suggestion ?
I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
optimusodd said:
Okay,I am thinking of giving this "swap" thing a try.:fingers-crossed:
Again,I have got a 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size (What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?)
(2)Swap size
Any suggestion ?
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I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
optimusodd said:
I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
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I successfully made sd-ext and moved apps there (http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/), so now I have 170 MB of free space for new apps!!
Question: I noticed that my phone slowed down a lot.... does it depend on SD type (read/write speed)?
Which is the best type / brand of SD?
Is there any other setting I could optimize for speed, when having Sd-Ext enabled?
marcellen said:
I successfully made sd-ext and moved apps there (http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/), so now I have 170 MB of free space for new apps!!
Question: I noticed that my phone slowed down a lot.... does it depend on SD type (read/write speed)?
Which is the best type / brand of SD?
Is there any other setting I could optimize for speed, when having Sd-Ext enabled?
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Moving Applications data to sd-ext slows your phone down.Don’t move “application data” to sd-ext.
I suppose you are using “S2E”,right ?What’s the format of your sd-ext ? ext3 or ext4 ?
Go through this thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917377
Personally, I prefer“S2E”(supports mounting sd-ext as ext4)
https://github.com/OlegKrikun/S2E
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&feature=search_result
(It works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9 )
Other apps you can use :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
Yes ,your card’s speed depends on the class of your card. An SD card's speed is measured by how quickly information can be read from, or written to, the card.Speed varies with the class of the card…Class 2 (2 megabytes per second), Class 4 (4 megabytes/second),Class 6 (6 megabytes/second) and so on…
You can find reviews here :
http://www.testfreaks.com/memory-cards/
Will be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826836
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/sd-speed-test-2009-10.htm
You might be looking for these apps : (Read the description carefully before installation)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.freespace
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ales.veluscek.sdtools
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mehrmann.sdbooster
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vaelek.sdspeedboost&hl=en
Some other hacks you can try : (Do It At Your Own Risk! I have never tried them)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-200-with-a-simple-tweak-hands-on-benchmarks/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
If you are running out of internal memory,you can increase it through Custom MTD Partition :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
HTH,Cheers!!
I used ext3, what experience do you have with ext4?
marcellen said:
I used ext3, what experience do you have with ext4?
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It's working great and ext3 should work fine too.
Acually ext4 provides better performance with journalling.
If you use an Old CWM recovery, it will convert it back to ext 3 when you backup/restore.
ext3=ext2+journalling
As ext4 is newer file system,new features have improved the performance and reliability of the filesystem when compared to ext3.
Journaling can be bad for the life of an sd-card (coz you do more writes).If you are not worried about life of the card, and the choice is based on filesystem performance only then ext4>ext3>ext2.
Ext4 can be used with journalling switched off.So "ext4 without journalling" will be best in my opinion.
There is a debate going on over it,check that out :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800353
I just want to know wich is the best to do it. I though I had a ext partition aligned with the SD card to use it as internal memory... but know Im getting I have no space left. So I suppose I did something wrong.
Any help is appreciaded.
Thanks in advance !
Do you use any sd-ext scripts? I suggest you Mount2sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342387
Partiton
juanmanuelsanchez said:
I just want to know wich is the best to do it. I though I had a ext partition aligned with the SD card to use it as internal memory... but know Im getting I have no space left. So I suppose I did something wrong.
Any help is appreciaded.
Thanks in advance !
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hi dear
u have to explain how u made EXT partition , i think u went wrong way
tell me about Ur SD size ,and how many kb aligned for that
juanmanuelsanchez said:
I just want to know wich is the best to do it. I though I had a ext partition aligned with the SD card to use it as internal memory... but know Im getting I have no space left. So I suppose I did something wrong.
Any help is appreciaded.
Thanks in advance !
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You might also want to include details like which Rom,etc.
Im using Cool Droid V3 with a 8 GB SD Card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016
I will reformat my SD Card and try everything again. If i do it right, should the internal memory change in size?
And wich should be the partition sizes?
Thanks in advance !
that depends on the hboot u are using. about ext4 partition, most roms require ext4 1gb - 1.5gb max
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