Classic WinMo threaded sms in Manilla ? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Ok, so I have the Rom in my sig, which has Sense 2.5, and I love it. Except for the threaded sms. So is there any way to make it so that when I click on a message in my messaging tab, it goes to the classic WinMo threaded text instead of the Manilla one? I just dont like the little box I have to type into, and the fact that I have to touch the box first before typing into it, because the cursor isnt already there. And the manilla one for some reason on this Rom is showing my texts out of order. But all is good with the classic threaded, the cursor is already there, no dumb box, and messages are in order. Thanks to anyone for good suggestions or a point in the right direction

The valkery roms have the classic windows mobile sms client. So you can try and use that rom. Also I know there is a cab that will change you're standard sms client from sense to windows mobile. But I believe the disadvantage is that you can't have threated sms.
The solution for the scrambled sms is: When you flash a rom, before restoring you're sms etc, set your sms settings to classic non threaded. Then restore you're sms. Soft reset and then put threated on. That should solve it

seriously, I would like this too! I'm carrying the stock rom from HTC NL. and have allready disable the HTC sms (slow / crappy / slow / did I say slow?). But would prefer the winmo threaded sms. There's got to be someone here with a solution?

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WM6.1 & SMS

I have a question. I'm not sure if it's WM6.1 related, or if it's built into the ShadoW..
But when i view text messages now, they show up as a "conversation" .. which i din't mind, but i can't seem to move the messages into another folder. Infact, i can't even create a new folder in the tree.
The "Move" option is still there, but i can't do anything with it. The reason i "move" the messages is to clean up work and personal related messages. now they're all stuck in my inbox.
Is it a feature of WM6.1? Or is it a feature of the ShadoW install?
i have some problem too
anybody have a solution ?
i want to work with old sms system
i was never able to create a folder for the sms, i dont think it s an issue about wm 6.1
Aliencurv,
I'm guessing that 6.1 uses threaded SMS, which is a new feature. The previous version of WinMobile (6.0) used the standard SMS format that you are used to.
I don't know whether you can deinstall this feature in 6.1 or if its cooked into the ROM. What I can tell you is that it is possible to create subfolders in 6.0 and move stuff around. I do this all the time.
If you can't deinstall threaded SMS from 6.1 and if sub directories are important, you may have to move back to 6.0.
I have to say I have only briefly beta tested 6.1 so I can't say for sure what you can do with folders. However 6.0 is as I have said above.
Hope this helps.
WB
I also noticed that I can't forward any messages now under 6.1 like I was able to before
locolopez said:
I also noticed that I can't forward any messages now under 6.1 like I was able to before
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u can bro.. just select the conversation intended ..select the intended messages by scrolling up & down using your DPad/Jog Scroll (it will be highlighted as u move along), when done selecting, click menu, select forward.. u good to go..
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see screenshot below
Thanks for your reply but it seems that you have to be in a conversation in order to be able to forward and not with a message where i didn't reply. I'm not by my computer so I'll post a screen shot later.
You disable threaded SMS by using the following key:
HKCU\Microsoft\Inbox\Setings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisable=DWORD:1
doedoe said:
You disable threaded SMS by using the following key:
HKCU\Microsoft\Inbox\Setings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisable=DWORD:1
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HKCU\Microsoft doesnt exist... u probably mean HKCU\Software\Microsoft...
but then again, Settings\OEM doesnt exist etiher... should we create it?
Thanks
Voldemort said:
i was never able to create a folder for the sms, i dont think it s an issue about wm 6.1
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You could always create a new folder via "manage folders" prior to WM6.1, although now it greyed out, rather than non-existent.
For those who don't like the threaded SMS in WM 6.1, you can change its style to WM 6.0 by this key:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:[COLOR="Red"]1[/COLOR]
Change 1 -> 0 and you'll have the old SMS
Cloudyfa said:
For those who don't like the threaded SMS in WM 6.1, you can change its style to WM 6.0 by this key:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:[COLOR="Red"]1[/COLOR]
Change 1 -> 0 and you'll have the old SMS
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TNX MAN .
I TEST THIS AND I HAVE A OLD SMS SYSTEM NOW
Cloudyfa said:
For those who don't like the threaded SMS in WM 6.1, you can change its style to WM 6.0 by this key:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:[COLOR="Red"]1[/COLOR]
Change 1 -> 0 and you'll have the old SMS
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you rule
what a great night! My gf let me cook oldschool fishsticks for dinner, and i have my old sms back ... life's good
aka simple things amuse simple ppl
Cloudyfa said:
For those who don't like the threaded SMS in WM 6.1, you can change its style to WM 6.0 by this key:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:[COLOR="Red"]1[/COLOR]
Change 1 -> 0 and you'll have the old SMS
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Nice! Once in a while i prefer to send/receive sms's the normal way. hehe
And when threading is disabled, i could do pretty much anything that i could do before like "Manage Folders" (create/delete folders) and move messages to/from a specific folder.
Thanks!
aliencurv said:
I have a question. I'm not sure if it's WM6.1 related, or if it's built into the ShadoW..
But when i view text messages now, they show up as a "conversation" .. which i din't mind, but i can't seem to move the messages into another folder. Infact, i can't even create a new folder in the tree.
The "Move" option is still there, but i can't do anything with it. The reason i "move" the messages is to clean up work and personal related messages. now they're all stuck in my inbox.
Is it a feature of WM6.1? Or is it a feature of the ShadoW install?
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Just disable the threading feature using the registry tweak Cludyfa mentioned a few posts above. Disabling the threading allows you to "Manage Folders" and move messages around.
I have edited the registry and disable the "threading", but with this effect, the notification (sound or vibration) for new SMS is also disable (e.g. no sound and vibration when there is new SMS and easily miss SMS/MMS), regardless how I set it in the "Sounds & Notifications".
Just wonder anyone has similar experience?
yklai said:
I have edited the registry and disable the "threading", but with this effect, the notification (sound or vibration) for new SMS is also disable (e.g. no sound and vibration when there is new SMS and easily miss SMS/MMS), regardless how I set it in the "Sounds & Notifications".
Just wonder anyone has similar experience?
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yep, i tried the tweak on two different WM6.1 roms, there's no incoming sms notification when i disable threading. I just hope somebody discovers a tweak to remedy this.
I like the new threaded SMS a lot but unfortunately my messages (restored) from before do not show up - only SMS's after I installed a 6.1 rom - the only way to read previous SMS is by going back to the old (with the regedit mentioned in this thread) or using a 3rd party program like PocketCM - anybody know how to make older messages appear in the new threaded SMS?
greatbal said:
yep, i tried the tweak on two different WM6.1 roms, there's no incoming sms notification when i disable threading. I just hope somebody discovers a tweak to remedy this.
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Me, too. Get the same problem.
Cloudyfa,
Thanks for the reg tweak, its work. I try to get use to WM6.1 sms threading but still not use to it after 2 weeks... thanks anyw.

Passwording SMS Folder in TF3D

Afternoon,
I'm looking for a (preferably freeware) application that password protects SMS (and perhaps email) folders on the HD whilst using the TF3D interface.
I'm using Dutty's 1.8 ROM and like the TF3D interface (esp the calendar) so don't really want to go to the standard WM6.1 GUI, although I know there are programs that enable this feature if you choose to use this interface.
Is anyone able to offer any suggestions?
Thanks for the help.
No joy then!
have a look on this post...
don't know if it's what you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1766170&postcount=5
Cheers
Ok
Thanks.
What i've done is removed the "SMS" and "Mail" tabs from TF3D
This means that you use the exact same SMS setup as if TF3d is disabled.
What would be good would be if it was possible to make the "SMS" tab link directly to the account selection page, meaning there was no message preview envelope, as even with Eye on Privacy installed, you can still read messages in TF3d, with a password prompt only occurring when you enter the windows messaging bit.

Any way to review all messages in Message Tab?

hi Guys
I was wondering whether there is a way to review all messages in the Message Tab?
It shows the last message that was received and i have to finger scroll up and down to see all the messages. Moreover, it doesn't show me all the sent messages too, so trying to figure out what the message was related to has led to some confusing conversation.
Is there a way to show all the messages in the tab ? Tried looking for it on this search forum, but I wasn't able to find any, possibly due to the wrong keywords.
Thanks !
I'm assuming you mean in the TouchFlo 3D interface... It took me a while to stumble on this one myself (but it made sense thinking about the interface with other tabs), but you can go through the messages by dragging your finger up and down on the message on-screen. Dragging bottom-to-top goes backwards chronologically, and top-to-bottom goes forward.
Hope that helps.
thanks for the post.
Yeah i know that is how to go through the messages.
I was hoping i could see all messages displayed on the tab, instead of one message.
Is there a way to do this ?
I don't think that's possible, but you can tab on the message to open up the TF3D interface to view the conversation thread with the recipient, or click on All Messages (left softkey menu) to open the Windows Mobile interface to see the list of messages with various recipients.
Thanks for the reply.
That kinda is inconvenient. i would like to see all the new messages from different people, and i had already missed a few messages without thinking of going through the All Messages tab.
Wished there was a way to see all incoming new messages from different people at least.
Seeing as how it's still WM 6.1, I figured I'd just reuse all the old programs from my Wing. So I reinstalled the 750v palm threaded SMS program (which overwrites the current messaging app) and all was good in the world. Well, only somewhat...
Unfortunately, MMS no longer works which is really weird because it worked perfectly fine on my Wing. Now when I try to send a MMS, I keep getting the "Out of Memory" error. Oddly enough, I never got that error on the Wing... and it had a fraction of the memory compared to this beast.
Hopefully when 6.5 comes out, this can be resolved (or a program that automatically marks all your SMS's as read). Until then, the only solution I have been able to find has already been mentioned... and that's to manually swipe through each message. Sucks if you're a big texter since you can easily rack up tens (if not hundreds) of messages in a short period of time.
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately, i am a huge texter and i am loving the TP2. I could practically write an essay on it, and i won't feel like it is bogging me down.
Hence why i had "ignored" so many messages lol
With my Vodafone brnaded Touch Pro2 the left soft key is programmed to show "all messages" guess this is what you want but not sure how they managed it, I presume it is a reg edit. Maybe someone else knows which one.
Cheers
Barney
This is an interesting thread, as it highlights the design vs. functionality features of TF3D. As the author of this thread, me too would like to be able to see more than one message on the SMS tab and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.
improwise said:
...and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.
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You can already do this... kind of. When you go to the SMS tab, click left softkey for "All Messages." This will take you to the default SMS program you have on your phone (in my case, it will launch the Palm Threaded SMS). From here you can reply to any messages you have received. It takes a little longer to reply because you have to open the default SMS program then click the thread you want to reply to. Either way, it works.
Hope this helps!
Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.
Maric said:
Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.
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You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good
TheBundo said:
You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good
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Yeah it SMS on touchflo sucks bad. I am little weary with my purchase so far since I don't know I've run into a lot these little disappointments.
I guess I was spoiled by the iphone simple and clean interface. Even the dialpad seems kind of small and awkward to use. I am just hoping for some hardspl mods so I can see if this device can still woo me.
You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.
Putra said:
You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.
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When you said threaded mode, i am assuming you meant the Windows Mobile SMS app right ?
This is to clarify that the TF3D doesn't have the select text->cut and paste functionality but the Windows Mobile app does. You need to click on the left soft key "All messages" to bring up the Windows Mobile SMS screen, select the conversation, and you can then use Putra's instructions for text selection, copy and paste functionality.
Yes, in TF3D (or manila 2d), you can only read 1 sms at a time and limited to reply, forward & delete.
If you want to copy & paste, you need to open the Win Mob SMS application as outlined by btong1978

Anyway to fix this dual texting crap?

Delete.
One's man burden is another man's blessing!
Most folks seem to hate the threaded SMS which you like, for reasons including that you get such a tiny little area to see what you've typed, plus you don't have the option of adding other recipients.
I'm not trying to get into a debate about it .. just hoping to point out that there is more than one solution to your problem of "dual texting crap": I haven't seen any tweaks to embrace the nice new interface, but here is one for killing it and sticking with the tried and tested 30 year old way ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373681
BTW .. a bonus is that once you have applied this, you can easily change your mind later and simply go and toggle the value between 0 and 1 without rebooting the device
Hope this helps
I have to agree with vin5cent0, I bl**dy hate the WM SMS reply interface. It's _so_ ugly. I don't care for threaded SMS's though.
Maybe you'd like Vito SMS-Chat, vin5cent0?
I prefer the TF3d threaded interface over the windows mobile interface as well. However it only appears accessable by replying to a message on the messaging tab in TF3d. Any new message or other way of replying to a message brings up the older WM interface. I would like be able to use the TF3d threaded interface for all the ways you can send a text.
This is the first i've seen someone wanting to actually embrace the TF3d message interface. It's woefully inferior to the WM one for the following reasons:
1.) Lack of character counter for sending message
2.) No support for signatures
3.) Phone numbers aren't clickable
4.) URL's aren't clickable
5.) Stupid Soft Key for Sent isn't the same as WM messaging program and is back (without confirmation) instead of send resulting in lost messages
6.) Reply to: screen / threaded view TERRIBLY SLOW when you have a lot of messages - we're talking 10 seconds pauses sometimes when pulling it up or replying (I imported all my SMS from my old phone so I have 9k text messages currently...)
I'll take functionally over "prettiness" any day. If they can fix these issues, I'd use it again I suppose. For now I'm using the "zoom sms" hack to disable the TF3d reply to interface and it goes to the WM instead.

[Q] sense 2.5 default message window

I don't know if this has been covered, I've looked. But here's my question.
I have a Tilt II with WM 6.5 and HTC Sense 2.5 (I'm pretty sure Manilla 2.5.20133329.2.) I like Sense (after applying several tweaks and cabs to make it more user friendly), but I have a couple of points that drive me bonkers:
1) When I depress the Messages Tab, it brings me to (an HTC) screen. This screen will display a text message i may have gotten two weeks ago. Or yesterday, it seems to be random. It's not even the last text received, which would make some sense at least. I have to tap the screen to open the thread and see the last message received (if it even was from that person). Or I can press "All Messages" and see where the new message is. Why? Why doesn't it go to All messages right away, or better yet, to the most recent text/thread received? Why do I have to get sent to this lame screen first? HOW CAN I CHANGE IT?!?
2) Same with Email Tab, but at least it shows me the emails received. How can I get it to go to the WM Inbox instead of the stupid 3D Sense window?
Basically, Sense messaging was coded by somebody who seems to have no idea what makes Sense. (haha)
Are there cabs or registry tweaks that will automatically take me to the windows messaging formats when I choose one of these Tabs?
Thanx!

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