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I wanted to ask MPD about two different contracts I am interested in below as I really would like to order a Touch Pro 2 today, but they never answer the phone!:
T-Mobile
700
Minutes
per month Unlimited
Text
+
Unlimited mobile web
per month £34.26
Line rental
per month
was £35.00 3 months
Free insurance
+
2.5% VAT Off
Line Rental
Looks good until you look at the info, maximum browsing cost per day £1!!!!
Vodafone:
300
Minutes
per month Unlimited
Text
+
Unlimited mobile web
per month £34.26
Line rental
per month
was £35.00 3 months
Free insurance
+
2.5% VAT Off
Line Rental
Now this deal looks good too but says nothing about daily browsing costs, nor does it on the Vodafone website.
Can anyone confirm that both above deals incurr EXTRA browsing/email/surfing costs?
I want to buy my HTC TP2 today but there is no point getting it and having to incurr large daily charges for a device that really is going to primarily be connected to the net daily.
Cheers
Both deals have inclusive internet so there will be no additional charge.
The T-Mobile £1 charge only applies if you don't have an add on Web n'Walk package, which the contract you quoted does have.
I think the W&W deal has a fair use policy of 1gb. I have had W&W for a few years now and despite tethering to my laptop and using data on my WM devices heavily I have never had a letter from T-Mobile asking me to reduce my use.
However I am concerned about the difficulty in contacting MPD. My TP2 is misbehaving. Not sure yet if it is a hardware fault but lack of communications with MPD worries me. Guess I will have to contact HTC but I want the option of a replacement handset rather than a repair.
Thank you for you're reply aerotec.
Well to be honest I have contacted them by email (wednesday) with no reply and called them around 10 times since then with no reply including leaving voice mail this morning - this is very worrying and a major issue if anything goes wrong with the phone, it has totally put me off.
I'm considering Expansys now as they have returned all my emails quickly, I didnt even have to call.
I hope yours gets sorted mate.
if you go directly to voda mate, on their bussiness page, you can get a free HTC TP2, 900 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited internet for £34.03 + vat... hold in, i'll link it.
HERE IT IS
18 month contract... are the ones you list 18mnth ?
It looks alot better to go directly to voda or am i missing something ?
EDIT : To get the plan i was on about, hit the 18 month click box and click 'view all plans'
The MPD deal is still pretty good. I took the 12 month deal as it worked out about the same as buying it unconnected.
I just hope I can sort out the handset problem though it has worked ok today.
I drove 5hrs yesterday and the TP2 kept giving me connection errors and Tomtom kept hanging on me. Why can't my gadgets just WORK!
drawflex said:
if you go directly to voda mate, on their bussiness page, you can get a free HTC TP2, 900 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited internet for £34.03 + vat... hold in, i'll link it.
HERE IT IS
18 month contract... are the ones you list 18mnth ?
It looks alot better to go directly to voda or am i missing something ?
EDIT : To get the plan i was on about, hit the 18 month click box and click 'view all plans'
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Thats the exact deal I got, although they don't have any more stock till monday apparently, but there was one available in my local store so she reserved it for me, and i picked it up same day.
MPD supply a non-brandaed, stock HTC TP2, where is vodafones is branded is the only real difference.
Thats a damn good deal, beats T-Mobile hands down.
I wish I could get one from my local store, but none have any.
I would prefer non-branded, but I'll definately take a look at that!
Thanks!
EDIT: Pretty sure -T-Mobile give you 1GB fair usage policy whereas Voda is 500MB?
I've just signed up for that deal aswell, and yeah, no stock till monday, I went to my local store and they'd just sold the only one they had... so i gotta wait
Apparently coz it's a bussiness phone local stores hold hardly any stock anyways..
More time to dowload goodies and fill up the 8GB card i just bought for it
EDIT : Also my local store didn't want to honour this deal as they said ' it's a bussiness only deal, were not a bussiness shop' so i'd recommend calling the number on the voda site, they were pleasant enough to deal with.
Don't go with T-Mobile, they're worse than useless.
In this thread, issues I've had with them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529984
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EDIT: Pretty sure -T-Mobile give you 1GB fair usage policy whereas Voda is 500MB?
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yeah, thats right... I can live with that though... i doubt i'll download anywhere near 500MB in a month over the air... but horses for courses.
You guys are a great help thanks.
Ok I phoned Vodafone, they are currently stocking them in:
Middlesborough (18!!)
Guildford
Thats about it according to the really helpful lady that I spoke to.
I wont be using T-Mobile then based on your issues mate, cheers.
By the way, how bad is the branding? is it possible to get rid of it using another ROM yet?
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By the way, how bad is the branding? is it possible to get rid of it using another ROM yet?
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I quite like it (not sure how many share my opinion here though).
Was getting bored of the black HTC theme on my other HTC phones (TyTN II/Touch HD).
To change the ROM you'd just need to install a new bootloader to unlock it and then install whatever ROM. I think the stock ROMs are available on the wiki, bear in mind it invalidates your warranty though. I've not done it myself since having the original TyTN handset and loading a custom ROM but it's fairly simple, a mate of mine did his TP1 the other day when he was round my place, didn't really pay much attention but it was basically the same process.
Ok sounds easy enough, thanks.
So would this also enable me to download the official HTC ROMs and the WM 6.5? or do you need to have an unbranded HTC phone for this?
Sorry if this is a stupid question.
MPD got back to me finally so all good.
So my choice is now unbranded (at extra cost £89 with a slightly inferiour voda contract) or branded (free with a better contract) - hmmm!
from how i see it... i might be wrong (i'm still wet behind the ears) you cant flash any rom to any TP2 yet untill someone comes up with a hardSPL for it (dunno about un-branded though) someone please confirm ?
From what i've read in the rom devolopment section they're working on it.
Once that's done.. you'll be able to whack any ROM on it and get rid of any branding.
Till then you gotta live with the branding i think.
Thanks - all my questions answered, much appreciated all.
The branding is AWFUL! pink white grey and black
But it is very easy to undo without flashing. There is a thread in the themes section, install one file and its gone
got mine from MPD and yeah they were a pain to get thru too via phone sometimes and email! i am very persistent so kept ringing till i got an answer sometimes 5 times back to back but i get thru. emails were answered quite quickly and i even had my contracts emailed to me for signing so i could get phone next day.............impressive! i did however speak to another gentleman who had no clue what i was on about when i enquired bout the postage of my phone. i got the t-mobile combi 30 deal where you got 700 mins plus unlimited texts w/out w&w as i already have a t-mobile line fully loaded on flext 35. it cost me £29.15 monthly and i paid £45 for phone!
that deal for £34.25 is quite good and phone is free. you get an unbranded and unlocked handset which is the biggest plus. getting the phone from voda direct means that it will come with their version of the stock rom which is not very good at all! keep ringing till MPD answers as they do eventually..............you need to get phone unbranded to truly experience the beauty of the phone. that IMO beats the lack of contact from MPD. when you do get thru you will get sorted. i think it gets rather busy in there and it is only a small shop with limited number of staff. it is also a walk in shop not online based like others. if they are busy dealing with walk in customers they won't answer phone!
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The branding is AWFUL! pink white grey and black
But it is very easy to undo without flashing. There is a thread in the themes section, install one file and its gone
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that doesn't get rid of the overal performance as base rom will still be voda branded and doesn't work well at all
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pretty bad from what i have been told! you can't flash custom roms at present till hard spl is released. this will also have a security unlock that will enable you to flash custom roms. ETA is not known but it is work in progress. in branded state you will only be able to flash voda updates. HTC rom or future htc updates you will not be able to use till hrad spl is available. even if you remove the look of the phone the base rom will still be voda and that is the issue. the unbranded handset with stock rom works far better than voda branded one! IMO the choice is clear!
Not sure if anyone can help .....
I'm looking at a £25 per month, 18 month contract (300 mins, unlimited texts) and unlimited data.
Sounds goods.
But, my main concern is the data. I've spoken to them this evening and they assure me that as it is an Android device that it will have the standard tmobile 3gb fair usage allowance.
I'm concerned that, despite what they say, that it will default to the standard non-Android 1gb fair usage policy as they are effectively selling it as a non-standard deal ?
Am I being over cautious ??!?!?
can anyone advise (please) ?
I dunno the answer but how much are the charging for the phone?
If you go direct through T-Mobile you get 3 gig of data but through other sites its only 1 gig.
the phone is free, £3.99 delivery.
Try phoning T-Mobile up, go for the 18 month £25 plan, 600 mins, 500 texts, 3gb internet, flexible booster (unlim texts or something else) and tell them that the same deal is online with a free phone.
If it doesn't work hang up and try again. Eventually it either will work or you'll be able to get a reduction in the handset price.
I got mine on launch day with T-Mobile 300 mins/texts 3 gig data usage and unlimited landlines, got them to wave the cost of the phone so got it free on £25 a month for 24 months.
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Not sure if anyone can help .....
I'm looking at a £25 per month, 18 month contract (300 mins, unlimited texts) and unlimited data.
Sounds goods.
But, my main concern is the data. I've spoken to them this evening and they assure me that as it is an Android device that it will have the standard tmobile 3gb fair usage allowance.
I'm concerned that, despite what they say, that it will default to the standard non-Android 1gb fair usage policy as they are effectively selling it as a non-standard deal ?
Am I being over cautious ??!?!?
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Hi, What I would do is get the £15 a month , 300 mins, unlimited texts and internet. It will cost £130 for the phone - totaling £490.
Then you get £40 cashback - which is therefore the same cost as your phone. And for 6 extra months so if you wanted to change it after £18 months it would still be the same cost
And no you are not being over cautious
Just to clarify this for people:
I've been trying to figure out why my HSDPA data speed was so slow (looked like throttled to ~350kbps d/l speed).
It appears that buying via MPD and T-Mobile with "unlimited" data (at least on the £25/month tariff I chose) you are only put on the standard 1Gb FUP data plan. This also has speed restrictions (which I read about elsewhere - and is definitely true since I've experienced it first-hand).
I was under no impression from MPD that I was getting only 1Gb, and it was never mentioned anywhere - all the literature on the web re: Android phones and T-Mobile UK imply we all should be on the 3Gb - which also included no speed throttle.
I just called T-Mobile and made the case - they first tried to get me to pay an extra £5 a month to be put onto the 3Gb, but I persisted mentioning that ANY Android phone bought now with a T-Mobile contract should be on the 3Gb FUP product.
After a bit of to-ing and fro-ing they agreed and changed me over instantly. I also got to choose a free booster since the 3Gb one is included in the plan...
Stick to your guns and you should get a result - don't let them try to make you pay for it - it's MPD's fault for not making it clear, and I argued that since my contract is with T-Mob and not them I should be on the same product as anyone who bought with T-Mobile direct...
simondavo said:
Not sure if anyone can help .....
I'm looking at a £25 per month, 18 month contract (300 mins, unlimited texts) and unlimited data.
Sounds goods.
But, my main concern is the data. I've spoken to them this evening and they assure me that as it is an Android device that it will have the standard tmobile 3gb fair usage allowance.
I'm concerned that, despite what they say, that it will default to the standard non-Android 1gb fair usage policy as they are effectively selling it as a non-standard deal ?
Am I being over cautious ??!?!?
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get the one from mobilephonesdirect its unlocked and u will get updates first
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T-mobile cant do anything since its advertised as ultd so have fun remember its fair usage they cant chage u anything extra if u go over
I also purchased via MPD.
At the time of ordering, I tried to get an answer from MPD on what TMobile FUP I would get, they assured me that I'd get 3gnarled, although I was not convinced.
When connected, I checked with TMobile and confirmed that I had my flexible booster setup to use the unlimited internet with 1gb FUP.
Didn't really think much of it until today.
Just spoken to the Loyalty Team and argued my case. They have now upgraded me to use the 3gb FUP and allowed me to use my flexible booster for something else.
Also, speedtest app is now returning an average download speed of 1900 kbps rather than 350 kbps.
Very happy !!!
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Excellent! Mine jumped (in a poor signal area - only 1-2 bars) from 350kbps to @1.5Mbps which is pretty good. Will check when I'm in London at work tomorrow - I reckon it should be even higher.
MPD have been a bit shoddy up until now what with the stock problems and non-registration of SIMs (I had to register mine myself since I'd been waiting a number of days for MPD to do anything about it).
Has anyone had anything in writing from MPD saying that they would definitely be on the 3Gb FUP? I can't find any mention of it on their site...(actually, I can't find anything about *any* FUP on T-Mobile plans).
Since it's not mentioned by MPD that the "unlimited mobile internet" is an add-on, I think it's perfectly safe to assume it's "included" with the plan which in T-Mobile's language means that it's 3Gb straight away for Android devices.
I can't see how T-Mobile can argue any other way when anyone buying direct gets the 3Gb without even asking for it...the contracts are almost (and in some cases) exactly the same amount...
Does it matter?
I got one from MPD yesterday, read this message and called TMobile who say
a) the allowance is for all intents and purposes the same, eg 1gb or 3gb, they don't count it unless you overshoot it dramatically
b) no throttling is applied, any issues experienced are with the quality of the connection
Are both these points correct?
Should I persist complain? I agree nothing was said about this in any of MPD's literature.
Beware MPD
I too have had problems with MPD. They have sent the wrong memory card. Their customer service is terrible. The £25 contract with 300 mins and 300 texts turns out the internet is restricted to 356kbps as the sim was registered to a Nokia phone?
Contacted T-Mobile as others did and got the flexible booster switched to texts. But to get HSDPA speed I had to have the unlimited internet booster added for £5. Argued to case that I should have the speed but the would not budge. Threaten to leave and they offered me 3 months free then £5 a month for last 15 months. So can complain too much as the Phone was free from MPD, whereas it £157 for T-Mobile on the same contract.
al89nut said:
Does it matter?
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Depends on if you plan on using your phone for what it's intended, and wish to get nearer to the cell connectivity speeds it's capable of supporting...I wouldn't want to be stuck with an expensive piece of hardware and only being able to use a fraction of its capacity in terms of download speeds...going from ~350kbps to only 1.5Mbps is a more than four-fold increase...
al89nut said:
a) the allowance is for all intents and purposes the same, eg 1gb or 3gb, they don't count it unless you overshoot it dramatically
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This is likely the case - 1Gb is a fair bit, but it's not impossible to go over it if you're using the phone intensively without a WiFi connection (things like downloading multiple podcasts with Google Listen - lots of Maps, e-mail and YouTube usage etc.)
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b) no throttling is applied, any issues experienced are with the quality of the connection
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This is a fallacy. T-Mobile will tell you there is no speed restriction each time you speak to them, and say the connections are contended (which *is* true) but there clearly is massive throttling for regular Web 'n Walk (1Gb) users - look at this thread for more evidence from others outside this forum.
As others have attested, as soon as they apply the Web 'n Walk Plus (3Gb) and remove the "unlimited internet flexible booster" which is what MPD customers seem to have all received, if you are already in an HSDPA area after a phone reboot your speed WILL increase immediately. There are no coincidences here!
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Should I persist complain? I agree nothing was said about this in any of MPD's literature.
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I certainly did, and would urge others to - I might have to do it again soon since my wife may order a Desire on the same deal...I prefer to have an unlocked unbranded handset, going through T-Mobile direct (despite the fact you'd have to haggle to get the same deal as on MPD) doesn't guarantee an unlocked/unbranded phone.
claptnei said:
The £25 contract with 300 mins and 300 texts turns out the internet is restricted to 356kbps as the sim was registered to a Nokia phone?
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I was also told that my "new" SIM bundled with the MPD order had been previously registered to another user...the connections team sorted it in a flash, however...
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Argued to case that I should have the speed but the would not budge.
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That doesn't sound correct. I would have pushed further - they are wrong, not you. Argue that it had been incorrectly provisioned when the connection was set up, and as per the standard T-Mobile FUP (quote it from the website to them), users starting new contracts with new Android devices at the same time are obliged to be on the 3Gb Web 'n Walk Plus bundle...
claptnei said:
I too have had problems with MPD. They have sent the wrong memory card. Their customer service is terrible. The £25 contract with 300 mins and 300 texts turns out the internet is restricted to 356kbps as the sim was registered to a Nokia phone?
Contacted T-Mobile as others did and got the flexible booster switched to texts. But to get HSDPA speed I had to have the unlimited internet booster added for £5. Argued to case that I should have the speed but the would not budge. Threaten to leave and they offered me 3 months free then £5 a month for last 15 months. So can complain too much as the Phone was free from MPD, whereas it £157 for T-Mobile on the same contract.
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I was lead to believe that the internet was a part of this contract and nothing to do with the flexible boosters.
I received my phone last Tuesday, does anyone know if today would count as part of my 7 days cooling off period or would that have ended yesterday?
edit: i would as its 7 working days.
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I was lead to believe that the internet was a part of this contract and nothing to do with the flexible boosters.
I received my phone last Tuesday, does anyone know if today would count as part of my 7 days cooling off period or would that have ended yesterday?
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your 7 days should end on Thursday's end of business day.
7 days cooling period are working days, it start the next working day when you received the phone and they do not count weekend. This is what I was inform when I replaced my Desire.
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your 7 days should end on Thursday's end of business day.
7 days cooling period are working days, it start the next working day when you received the phone and they do not count weekend. This is what I was inform when I replaced my Desire.
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cheers, i know MPD say you have 14 days but thats with everything in its original packaging etc so want to make sure they dont try and wriggle out using that as an excuse.
Phoned TMobile again.
Phone was registered as a Nokia
They say the price plan is between me and MPD aka Go Away
They say that 3gb and 1gb amounts to no practical difference
They say that a 1gb d/l limit has no throttling back compared to 3gb
(is the throttling just on H?)
So, do I try to take the phone back to MPD and pay the extra £45? What's their return policy and do I have to factory set the phone to erase data, etc?
What would Old Hands here do?
I bought a desire through MPD and my bill says I have an "Internet Booster (FB)" package applied (for free).
Before I call up T-Mobile can someone just confirm to me that...
1) This is incorrect
2) What I should have is 'web&walk plus'
3) 'web&walk plus' is the only way to get HSPDA connectivity?
Have many people been successful in getting their account corrected? Or am I fighting a losing battle before I start!?
Dont know if this has been mentioned before here, but just realised that T-Mobile UK explicitely allows tethering ! See here http: //support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=80103803ac7b7fd01276dd2137000728a
Thats awesome, for 10 quid a month I have my Desire mobile phone and I don't need a separate broadband dongle when on the move with my laptop. I tried it already under Win7, just need to install HTC Sync, connect the Desire using USB, and it works!!
Depends on your contract.
This is from the fair usage pages on the t-mobile website:
Pay monthly plans which include internet on your phone on an Android phone You'll need internet coverage, check it at t-mobile.co.uk/streetcheck. Remember that you can only use your internet on your phone Booster in the UK and you can't use your phone as a modem or use web'n'walk Plus for peer to peer file sharing, or making internet phone calls. *Internet on your phone comes with a fair use policy of 3GB a month. We'll monitor how much you send and receive each calendar month so that we can protect our network for all our internet on your customers. If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much. As your phone is always connected to the internet, if you remove your internet on your phone Plus Booster from your account you'll automatically be charged up to £1 every day. That £1 a day rate has its own fair use policy and other legal stuff, which you can see here: t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/#fup5.
Edit, forgot the source:
https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/?WT.mc_id=fup#fup2
just read that thread.....that t-mobile guy says that tarriffs including wnw plus do include tethering, but t-mobile do not give those tarriffs out any more....the current tarrifs just include 3GB of data, and not tethering.
I spoke to a store salesman and a very competent techy. both said that tethering is included in the contract`s 3gb limit on android.
hmmm, i'd still like to wait and see, cos the new contract i just signed up for quite clearly says no on the T&Cs on the website.
course, my old web and walk plus one has no such issue
Mind you, t-mobile are very easy going, so there's no saying that they'll actually enforce it even if it's not included....
I used to use it with my old SE C902 never a problem. T-Mob forum guys also confirmed a while back that it is allowed.
yeah but that forum post was on the OLD contracts, not the new ones they bought in recently.
Like i said, i have an old contract that has WnW+ on it and yes, tethering is allowed on that one.
the new contracts that they are selling the desire on, definitely say that no tethering is allowed on the compulsory £5 a month android phone internet thingy. And much as i have been a customer of t-mobile since 2004, i don't trust their forum or support staff, cos i used to work with some of them.....
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yeah but that forum post was on the OLD contracts, not the new ones they bought in recently.
Like i said, i have an old contract that has WnW+ on it and yes, tethering is allowed on that one.
the new contracts that they are selling the desire on, definitely say that no tethering is allowed on the compulsory £5 a month android phone internet thingy. And much as i have been a customer of t-mobile since 2004, i don't trust their forum or support staff, cos i used to work with some of them.....
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Uh.. I was a new customer to T-Mobile and I have 'web'n'walk Plus' listed as my inclusive internet.
There's no way they would know if you had tethered or not. As far as the network can see, its just your mobile phone sending data. Considering that there's not a lot that this phone can't do on the web, I think they would find it pretty hard to know you were tethering based on the web pages you visited. Granted p2p may be a different kettle of fish all together, so I'd be weary about using p2p.
Just my opinion...
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actually, just realised there are ways they could find out, but I would imagine that as long as your not silly with it there shouldn't be a problem...
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Sorry to dig this up, thought I'd add it here though rather than start a new thread.
I assume the way they could know was by checking your browser agent string? Would changing that browser agent string on the connected PC to the same and the local phone browser then be enough to 'hide' the tethered connection?
Either way, what happens when Froyo comes out and adds the wifi hotspot functionality...?
i get a months unlimited data for £5 a month on t-mobile pay as you go i use it often for browsing and downloading with the new wifi hotspot
I'm with T-Mobile UK and I have to say that have the most pro-Android tariffs of any of the UK operators, with the most flexible bolt-ons, and the best, cheapest European data roaming charges of the lot. Big thumbs up from me for a thoroughly excellent service! And for me personally in the South East, the data network is amazingly quick, MUCH faster than when I was with o2.
I bought my phone from CPW on 1st April and signed up to a contract for 24 mo at £30pm for 900 mins, 500 txt's and mobile internet. I've run a couple of speed tests on the phone and noticed I was getting approx 350kbps download speed, so I called T-Mo to ask them why etc and after speaking with a guy from tech support, he said that I didn't have web n walk plus on my account since I got it from a third party (CPW). He then told me that it would be an additional £5 per month and I would have to sign up to it for 24 months to get the higher speed (otherwise rolling monthly it would be £7.50). I was a bit miffed at this as it also meant I was currently capped to a 1GB fair usage policy, but found it hard to justify paying a further £5 pm just for quicker speeds! So I said no thanks and left it at that.
So I jumped on their website and looked at the terms and conditions of the contract with them, and in it states that if you have an android phone with internet included in the contract, it includes web n walk plus, instead of the basic standard mobile internet I was setup with. The reason for this was that I had the internet on my account as the flexible booster.
So after having spoken now with cust services and telling them that as an android user I should have internet included at the plus speeds, that now freed up my flexi booster, which I now have unlimited texts and unlimited internet at the quicker speeds!
Result!
Sorry for long post, but felt this would be useful for anyone who didn't buy direct from T-Mo as they should be able to get what I've now got (or similar by using the flexi booster on something else).
FYI the information is here: https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/#fup2
Jon
Hi all,
i am new to this forum but i have had the same problem and i posted the below on teh t-mobile forum
I got my HTC desire from Carphone warehouse £30.00 per month 900 minutes 500 sms and data.
Now i have called T-mobile several times and chatted to the guys on the twitter page,but it took me asking for a manager to get this sorted. Today at last i spoke to someone on the number 150 from the handset and then went through to the option for amemding minutes/internet. I spoke to a helfull girl but she stated as i bought my handset from Carphone warehouse it is on the 1GB tariff and it will cost me a further £5 per month if i want web and walk plus with the 3GB allowance and faster data speeds. She want away several times coming back with same answer.Spoke to a manager who added the Web and Walk + 3GB for free and apologised to me after i quoted on there TnC for the Android handsets that they all should be on the 3GB data allowance and it does not say you are on the 1GB one if you get the handset from somewhere else.
So i have now run the speed test app from the app store and download speeds where i am at the moment up form 356kbs to 1878kbs and 1298kbs upload..Alot better and the person at T-mobile said when i go onto the 3GB my speed wont increase!!! Victory and plus i now have unlimited sms as well
Thanks
Dan
Hi, im currently up for renewal on my vodafone contract, but with them not being able to offer a decent tarrif or give me an actual date for when they think they will be getting stock (been told approx 2weeks but nothing confirmed) ive been forced to shop around, ive been offered 500mins 3000texts and internet (500mb, is that enough for the desire?) and a free phone tomorrow so to speak from orange. I know from past experience with orange that back in the day they would fill there phones of junk, i was wondering if the Desire was full of the old orange stuff? or is it unbranded so to speak?
Cheers, Joe
Oh, i can however get a nexus one with vodafone on a contract that i could live with, is it worth jsut going for a nexus over the desire? is there any major differences between the two other than the sense ui? which is the main reason i prefer the desire over the nexus tbh.
I think it all depends where you get the phone from. Orange, Phones4U and most Orange stockists will sell you their crapware filled, branded, crippled Desire that really is an awful experience in comparison to stock Desire. Thankfully this branding is pretty easily removed.
The Carphone Warehouse will sell you an unlocked, branding free Desire on contract from Orange etc. and they may give you quite a good deal.
As for the Nexus, it has pros and cons. It has Froyo, gets updates seemingly quicker than other Android phones, and has a uni-body design (honestly, it's not that much different). The Desire IMHO is better due to HTC Sense, more RAM and physical buttons which are more responsive than the touch buttons on the Nexus One.
It's your choice but I'd go with the Desire -- preferably NOT on Orange (they even give you a measly 500mb data plan [I've had the phone three months and gone over twice due to Spotify and podcast streaming] unless you pay another tenner and their customer service sucks) or via The Carphone Warehouse. Look around for the best deals
Cheap Desire offer!
Ive just bought one via mobiles.co.uk, it comes from them and it is a stock desire rather than an orange.
They have an offer on half price line rental for 12 months on one of them cash back thingys. Only had the phone a couple of days but pretty happy with it!!
The Orange phone is filled with rubbish you can't rid of.
I've just unbranded mine.
As above. Mobiles.co.uk i found were offering the best deals.
The Orange Network i've found to be very good, and the customer service again has been excellent
I came from O2 with an iffy data network and rubbish customer service
Rickalicious said:
The Orange phone is filled with rubbish you can't rid of.
I've just unbranded mine.
As above. Mobiles.co.uk i found were offering the best deals.
The Orange Network i've found to be very good, and the customer service again has been excellent
I came from O2 with an iffy data network and rubbish customer service
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Orange have been terrible to me. They even got my name wrong on a bloody direct debit when my name is on the account!
steve228uk said:
Orange have been terrible to me. They even got my name wrong on a bloody direct debit when my name is on the account!
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I guess they can't get it right all of the time, I can testify to that on O2's behalf, they were crap for me.
Yea whatever you do dont go on 02, had a 30 day rolling contract with them.. took me 3months to get that canceled.
Im on orange now 500mb of internet is fine for me, i just do general internet browsing facebook etc. Ive worked out 500mb will get you 16mb a day. Mines from phones4u had no problem with them, just make sure you cancel all the insurance addons they give you (unless you want them)
Cheers
Sorry to sound like I'm fighting the tide but I've always found O2 to be decent, both for customer service and network. I've always managed to negotiate a deal with retentions that is comparable to the best competitor tariff. I'm kind of limited because O2 are the only network that get a signal inside my house. Voda, Orange and T-Mob are all low signal but that's because I'm in a semi-rural location.
In fact my local mast must have been upgraded recently because I started getting a strong H signal inside the house a few days ago when I ALWAYS had plain G before.
As for data plans, ALL the main networks in the UK are going to tiered data plans. There's no such thing as unlimited data any more, it's 500MB for starters and then increasing cost for more MBs (750,1000 etc).
I spoke to O2 about the data and they told me it was only going tiered on the iPhone. I didn't think it was true but it was kinda interesting to hear.
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If that's true then fair enough, but it would be sensible to keep an eye open in case O2 do change the data plans across the board. I took out a new contract on 22-June with "unlimited data". My understanding is that O2 are looking to review "unlimited" sometime in October. It doesn't afect me as such anyway because I tend to run at 200-300MB per month.
Im on the same tariff and I got the phone from carphone warehouse for 2 reasons, Orange weren't selling it at the time, and it was unbranded.
The tarrif works fine for me (Managed to go over the 3000 texts , I know not to do to much with the phone on 3G, So it only gets used for emails using the net and stuff, I don't watch videos on it or stream or anything for to keep myself covered
Install at 3G Usage monitor for good measure
I am on the same tariff too. Mine is locked and a pain, just wondering whether to root it or not. Is it actually worth it? I am only wanting to do it because I want to change how many apps boot up to save battery life since all the apps take up 60%+ of battery power?
Anyway, 500mb is fine for internet usage, so far. I have 3g.Watchdog app so it tells me when I go over 75% and warns me when I get close to my quota. Just don't stream and use it for MSN and browsing when your out. When I am in I use the WiFi
I'm on a similar tariff, only with 300 minutes but with a free phone at £25/mth on an 18-month contract I'm not complaining
I just use the 'Your Orange' app from the market to keep track of it all. Seems to work a treat.
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I'm on a similar tariff, only with 300 minutes but with a free phone at £25/mth on an 18-month contract I'm not complaining
I just use the 'Your Orange' app from the market to keep track of it all. Seems to work a treat.
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It does, but it doesn't give you a up-to date usage all the time, Im sure it states in the app minutes and data may be up-to 48 hours old
well due to the first few posts i decided to go against orange, just got off the phone from vodafone they hae stock but im on the end of the waiting list though it wont be soon before the phone is in the post, got the phone for free on £35 a month over 18months with 600mins unlimited texts + unlimited internet cant really complain!
i'm on orange and upgraded through them. i got
1100 mins
unlimited landline
unlimited internet
600 texts
£25 a month for 18 Months
I got my desire on orange, i have debranded mine & got it unlocked.
orange have been good to me never had any probs with customer service.
By the sounds of it some of you still run the stock Orange app, any chance someone could back the stock Rom up an send me a copy, would be mucho appreciated.
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