Multitouch issues / No real Multitouch - Desire General

Hi all,
I am also thinking about buying a Desire - actually I nearly couldn't wait any more until I found the following:
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/is-multitouch-broken-on-the-nexus-one/
The touchscreen of the N1 seems to have a technical limitation in the way that it can only register 2 simultaneous touches at a time. But it cannot really track the touch points correctly, it merely reports 2 X and 2 Y coordinates. (Which could make up 4 Points actually of which only 2 would be the correct ones obviously)
If I understand the comments correctly the N1 has a Synaptics ClearPad 2000 touchscreen in it with the above limitations.
There is newer touchscreen called Synaptics ClearPad 3000 which actually supports 'real' multi-touch (up to 10 fingers)
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
As the N1 and Desire are practically the same thing just with different wrapping and software I got a bit worried. Can one of you guys with a Desire please check if the same issues occur for the Desire. Or maybe we are lucky and HTC used the newer screen the Desire (*hoping*)
This actually upsets me a lot as I really wanted a Desire
cheers,
Tommi

Me too.
I also found this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T97P_wfYKms
I seems it can recornize 3 touches but not crossed. (the specification of clearpad2000 sayd maximun 2 touches??!!)
EDIT: the top 2 figers share an axe!
here is the bug on Android ML..
http://groups.google.com/group/andr...ead/thread/d0aa3eea8fd9a2b8/f4b039d29f955d76#
It's and hw problem that could have a partial sw fix.

I don't really see it as a big problem. You'd be hard pressed to use more than 3 fingers on the small screen anyway.

i dont get why the switching of axes is a problem? the only time you'll use multitouch on your desire would be to pinch zoom photos etc. but it doesnt matter if your fingers are in the top left corner and the bottem right and it thinks the other way around. it wil totaly not effect the geusture cuz the movement is stil the same.
(srry for my bad english )

sure? look at this simple *broken* game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OscGUON6mCs
besuikerd said:
i dont get why the switching of axes is a problem? the only time you'll use multitouch on your desire would be to pinch zoom photos etc. but it doesnt matter if your fingers are in the top left corner and the bottem right and it thinks the other way around. it wil totaly not effect the geusture cuz the movement is stil the same.
(srry for my bad english )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

This topic has been discussed to death.
I own an HTC Desire, unlocked, HTC own retail version.
And I have never ever experienced any issue with multitouch nor when using my phone.
For fiddling around, flick flock, swipe swope, tap tap, pinch zoom, shake, gaming, whatnot.
Seriously, if this is a big issue, you will hear a lot of complaints and it will be all over the news.
In fact most if not all are happy with our phone

assente said:
sure? look at this simple *broken* game.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry but at least I dont buy a 400 euro phone to play pong on it.
im just sayin.

LOL!!!!! You made my day
besuikerd said:
sorry but at least I dont buy a 400 euro phone to play pong on it.
im just sayin.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Are u stupid or what? it was just to test the input.. if a simple game has broken multitouch imagine a <cool multitouch 3d game here>
Anyway I don't care much of this bug, because I'm not an addicted mobile gamer..
gogol said:
LOL!!!!! You made my day
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

You should be the stupid one because you don't have a sense of humor .. LOL
I was laughing because the joke of other user ...
But now, I am laughing at you instead.
Because you are now worried that this (non) issue will broke other cool multitouch 3d game ... LOL again
assente said:
Are u stupid or what? it was just to test the input.. if a simple game has broken multitouch imagine a <cool multitouch 3d game here>
Anyway I don't care much of this bug, because I'm not an addicted mobile gamer..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

gogol said:
LOL!!!!! You made my day
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
X2
ive had no issues with using multitouch, for me everything works perfect !

I did not want to discuss any fixes or reasons for the malfunctions, thats all clear.
I simply wanted to know if it is the same with the Desire as it is with the N1.
If it is a big or small issue is for everyone self to decide. Maybe I only want to play pong with my phone (I don't say I want that), in this case it would be a huge issue. If the only thing you need is a pinch zoom (which is a useless guesture btw) it is no issue at all.
Could you be so kind and test that pong game on the Desire and let us know if it works or not?
gogol said:
This topic has been discussed to death.
I own an HTC Desire, unlocked, HTC own retail version.
And I have never ever experienced any issue with multitouch nor when using my phone.
For fiddling around, flick flock, swipe swope, tap tap, pinch zoom, shake, gaming, whatnot.
Seriously, if this is a big issue, you will hear a lot of complaints and it will be all over the news.
In fact most if not all are happy with our phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Because you have asked me, then my answer is NO. I won't test that.
You will have 2 possible answers anyway ...
1. It still have that problem
2. It does not have that problem
I think your concern is no. 1, correct? I guess so ...
Then it is up to you ... But as I said, this is not an issue for daily use, except you really want to play that Pong game
PS: From what I read, I almost certain that HTC Desire will have the same issue like N1 for this (same display technology anyway).
thomasschaz said:
I did not want to discuss any fixes or reasons for the malfunctions, thats all clear.
I simply wanted to know if it is the same with the Desire as it is with the N1.
If it is a big or small issue is for everyone self to decide. Maybe I only want to play pong with my phone (I don't say I want that), in this case it would be a huge issue. If the only thing you need is a pinch zoom (which is a useless guesture btw) it is no issue at all.
Could you be so kind and test that pong game on the Desire and let us know if it works or not?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

just tested Pong from Marketplace and unfortunatly i have the problem on my desire :|

at10ti0n said:
just tested Pong from Marketplace and unfortunatly i have the problem on my desire :|
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...

thomasschaz said:
Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
or get the motorola droid/milestone

thomasschaz said:
Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It won't play pong so you won't get it?

The algorithms for these touch screens aren't designed for complex multi touch, they are designed to recognise gestures with 2 fingers.

at10ti0n said:
or get the motorola droid/milestone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hm... well to be honest I have not made very good experiences with motorola in the past. Event though the droid/milestone phones look quite nice I'd really like to stay with HTC. I do not really need a new phone at the moment, I only wanted to have the Desire . But only with real multitouch (which is for me, to track more than 2 fingers accurately)
vdude_1 said:
It won't play pong so you won't get it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hehe, no that would be quite a stupid reason, wouldn't it.
I do however want a phone with true multitouch and not just a 'basic guesture supporting' 2 finger recognition. (oh and I probably don't need to add that iPhone is not an option)

I think.. it's only a software problem..
maybe there is a bug in android 2.1?
Or, someone in motorola already found out about this bug and fixed it for droid.
Anyhow, imho, this can be quite easy to be fixed.

Related

Keyboard Problem Still Exist?

I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not the TP2 still has the keyboard problem from the touch pro?
What's the keyboard problem from the Touch Pro?
Yeah
What is the problem?
Please let us know
I don't know what problem touch pro keyboard has
I searched around and I think this problem is keyboard lag. However, I don't think it exists on the TP2, as the review here (to read it, you'll probably need google translator to translate the page) only mentions how quickly the device runs and how amazing the keyboard is, there's nothing about keyboard lag.
Dave
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I searched around and I think this problem is keyboard lag. However, I don't think it exists on the TP2, as the review here (to read it, you'll probably need google translator to translate the page) only mentions how quickly the device runs and how amazing the keyboard is, there's nothing about keyboard lag.
Dave
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
Compared to the Kaiser this thing is a dream! I press a button and the character appears on the screen at the same time! It's wonderful!
No more waiting for the last 2 words I typed to appear slowly. It's much much better
kjb86 said:
Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELdBSd-R8eU&feature=channel_page
Here u can check it out (compared to the TP1 and the X1) Seems pretty fast to me
There was a keyboard lag in the Touch Pro when I bought it, but since installing latest official ROM it's gone
No lag on stock Rom for Rhodium for me.
As stated above, things will only get better once we get HSPL and start cooking our own Roms
Cheers,
Beasty
beast0898 said:
No lag on stock Rom for Rhodium for me.
As stated above, things will only get better once we get HSPL and start cooking our own Roms
Cheers,
Beasty
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
orbitalen said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELdBSd-R8eU&feature=channel_page
Here u can check it out (compared to the TP1 and the X1) Seems pretty fast to me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dazultra2000 said:
Compared to the Kaiser this thing is a dream! I press a button and the character appears on the screen at the same time! It's wonderful!
No more waiting for the last 2 words I typed to appear slowly. It's much much better
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks everyone for the information. It seems as though I am still stuck with this kaiser and my horrible text messaging speeds for quite some time (darn Canada/North America not having the same frequencies)... *sigh* I guess the kaiser has been somewhat good to me
There is no keyboard lag whatsoever that I'm experiencing with my Touch Pro 2. I typed a sermon summary from a church's sunday service superbly with the keyboard. Loving it so much!
nope, it's lag-less
woops, forgot about this. hahaha.
I was talking about the countless number of keyboards breaking on the touch pro.
Tons of threads about it over at ppcgeeks.
It's something to do with the ribon or something inside and it breaks or pops out,
and then you're keyboard decides to stop working.
My friends has gone out like 2 times on him, and had to get 2 other replacements,
and this is within the past 4 months. lol.
But I already got the TP1.
^ That's what you were talking about...
So far haven't seen any reference to this issue on the TP2.
galaxys said:
^ That's what you were talking about...
So far haven't seen any reference to this issue on the TP2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, I couldnt get a TP2,
only way I could get it was if I bought it at full retail
or got it from verizon when they get finished hacking it up.
And I couldn't afford the first one
and would never buy phones through verizon.
So I ended up going with the TP1 to hold me off for a while.
Ugh, I hate the timeout error.
I refresh and it reposts. woo!
Sorry bout double post!
yeh, I'm still waiting on the tmobile TP2. Hopefully, they won't hack it up or I'll have to get something else...
kjb86 said:
Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no lag at all
galaxys said:
yeh, I'm still waiting on the tmobile TP2. Hopefully, they won't hack it up or I'll have to get something else...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ya, I was worried I'd wait for verizon or alltel too long,
and they'd just hack it up anyways,
so I just said screw it and got the TP and decided to wait for a
more mature WebOS, (I would like to develop for it, but hate the pre)
or wait for a wm7 phone.
mallman said:
no lag at all
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cool.

[Q] Where are all the trackpads?!

So, i know this really isnt quite the right place...but what ever...So i've been using the incredible for over a year now, and i've gotten really used to the trackpad; I love it. But i've noticed on most new phones, atleast the verizon ones, theres no trackpad!? What happened HTC?! so i was wondering, when flashing a rom with clockwork on a phone with no trackpad, how do you scroll? do you have to use the volume buttons? there are other issues with no trackpad...like the fatfinger selection, sometimes you go to click something, but its so close to another thing you click the other thing instead...does anyone else love the trackpad? this is kind of a big issue for me...i really love my dinc, but kinda want 4g and front facing camera (and has to be a htc phone; i like the home button where it is!!!) faster cpu would be nice too..but any way...i just wanted to vent and see if anyone else has put thought into this...i mean the dinc is a great phone, and with new roms coming out all the time(been running NilsP Business gingersense andro2.3.3 with sense 3.0) it can stay uptodate pretty well, but only on the software side...ok..i'm done...
You should have vented in the General Section. This doesn't contribute at all to any development.
If I've helped you, hit the thanks button!
Wrong section.
Don't hold me on this, but I think the HTC Desire Z/T-Mobile G2 was the last HTC phone with a trackpad..
edit: MyTouch series, also..
Hope a mod moves this to general.
I completely agree. I find the trackpad extremely useful at times. Without even thinking about it I go right to it.
The truth is the DInc is getting older. Although I have had it for two years and still f'n love it, its time will be up. There are many amazing and powerful phones coming out and its just gonna get better. Personally, I'm looking at the HTC Vigor or Samsung Droid Prime as my next device. They seem to me the only Verizon phones that could possibly live up to the Incredible legacy.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
cmckee.cna said:
So, i know this really isnt quite the right place...but what ever...So i've been using the incredible for over a year now, and i've gotten really used to the trackpad; I love it. But i've noticed on most new phones, atleast the verizon ones, theres no trackpad!? What happened HTC?! so i was wondering, when flashing a rom with clockwork on a phone with no trackpad, how do you scroll? do you have to use the volume buttons? there are other issues with no trackpad...like the fatfinger selection, sometimes you go to click something, but its so close to another thing you click the other thing instead...does anyone else love the trackpad? this is kind of a big issue for me...i really love my dinc, but kinda want 4g and front facing camera (and has to be a htc phone; i like the home button where it is!!!) faster cpu would be nice too..but any way...i just wanted to vent and see if anyone else has put thought into this...i mean the dinc is a great phone, and with new roms coming out all the time(been running NilsP Business gingersense andro2.3.3 with sense 3.0) it can stay uptodate pretty well, but only on the software side...ok..i'm done...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I'm pretty sure as your are in the minority. As most people, that I know anyway, don't use the touchpad and find it a waste of space.
nfiniti9 said:
Well I'm pretty sure as your are in the minority. As most people, that I know anyway, don't use the touchpad and find it a waste of space.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1. Don't use it, need it, or want it.
Trackball, yes. (Droid Eris)
Optical trackpad? No. Awful.
Volume keys work fine in recovery. And you can't get a hair stuck in them which causes your homescreen to scroll like crazy.
godsmacked4653 said:
Trackball, yes. (Droid Eris)
Optical trackpad? No. Awful.
Volume keys work fine in recovery. And you can't get a hair stuck in them which causes your homescreen to scroll like crazy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh man don't get me started on track balls... Those things suck... Do you know how many of those things fall out?!!? I've had the Samsung omnia (windows based smart phone) It was my first optical trackpad, damn thing was great even could change it to a mouse which was pretty cool...then moved to a moto droid, no trackpad of any kind until you open the kb, horrible design in my opinion. And how are you supposed to "hover" over a video(like on Bing) so it plays? I can hover over it with my trackpad with out opening it.
Sent from your moms bedroom
RamAir02 said:
Hope a mod moves this to general.
I completely agree. I find the trackpad extremely useful at times. Without even thinking about it I go right to it.
The truth is the DInc is getting older. Although I have had it for two years and still f'n love it, its time will be up. There are many amazing and powerful phones coming out and its just gonna get better. Personally, I'm looking at the HTC Vigor or Samsung Droid Prime as my next device. They seem to me the only Verizon phones that could possibly live up to the Incredible legacy.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So... I just looked at the droid prime... Disappointed... They're taking of the physical buttons... I like my buttons below the screen.... Maybe the dinc will be my last phone.. never upgrade.... Ill just get a new 4g phone and pull out the cellular reciever and the front facing camera.. who needs a proximity sensor anyway?
Sent from your moms bedroom

4 HTC One X'es Later

Were do I start......My first One x had dead pixels and dust under screen, 2nd big yellow blob on grey or dark screens, 3rd Vibration stopped working, dead pixels and the last one had 3 dead pixels.... The phone its self is fantastic but HTC's build quality is dire...I have lost all faith in HTC, Luckily the Carphone Warehouse managed to exchange my phone for a different model of the same spec, as I was still within 28 days and because I had had so many exchanges.
@Op
In all the 8 years I use HTC I must be very lucky once again my phone is 100% correct, no issues what so ever, I love the HTC One X.
I feel sorry for you, you have such a bad luck.
I was gonna purchase one x to replace my 4s. But not anymore.
nohcho said:
I was gonna purchase one x to replace my 4s. But not anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, ok. A headache, for sure, but everyone who has had a defect has sent it back and got it replaced and eventually got a good one. Most people don't have problems at all. I know I don't have anything wrong with mine. Just try to buy from someone you can get it swapped out at easily so you can make sure you get a good one. The defects are annoying, but I have no doubt they will get worked out. It's all part of early adoption.
I haven't really paid attention to the defects threads, but are newer versions nearly defect free yet? Or are they just as likely to be bad?
On my 4th too, but so far (touch wood) I have a keeper I think.
1st was yellow stains on screen
2nd was unusable GPS
3rd was yellow spots (battery hitting 65C)
4th has lasted nearly two weeks so far (yay!)
It's not perfect - there is a small amount of light leakage at the bottom of the screen and GPS is not perfect, but nothing that would warrant an exchange.....yet.
Not sure if it is just the UK thats had problems, but T-Mobile confirmed when I returned my second that they had a load of returns - had to wait for stock to come back in before they could exchange.
Now I've had one though, I think I might find it hard to swap for any other phone, despite its flaws.
There will always be a sense of 'the phone it could/should have been' though - I guess they had to leave something to improve for the Two X
Only real remaining issue for me is the heat and battery life but I guess they are the sacrifices we have to make for adopting new technology.
Incredible to read, awful for you.
Touch wood indeed, hopefully it will be ok this time.
In the 8 years experience I have with HTC I never experienced such thing.
My previous devices, HTC Universal, Kaiser, Artemis, Blackstone, HD2, and now One X and no problem once again, amazing isn't?
I can't believe it, so much luck I have.
One thing you probably must admit, the service of HTC must be great if they try to fix your device 4 times in a row isn't?
And they must have done that very quick as well because the device isn't that long on the market (1, max 2 months?).
Honestly, I wish you good luck with the current device.
Edit; I see you both (Op and you) come from the UK, could it be possible HTC shipped some bad quality samples to the UK?
It's just a taught.
gonzo99 said:
On my 4th too, but so far (touch wood) I have a keeper I think.
1st was yellow stains on screen
2nd was unusable GPS
3rd was yellow spots (battery hitting 65C)
4th has lasted nearly two weeks so far (yay!)
It's not perfect - there is a small amount of light leakage at the bottom of the screen and GPS is not perfect, but nothing that would warrant an exchange.....yet.
Not sure if it is just the UK thats had problems, but T-Mobile confirmed when I returned my second that they had a load of returns - had to wait for stock to come back in before they could exchange.
Now I've had one though, I think I might find it hard to swap for any other phone, despite its flaws.
There will always be a sense of 'the phone it could/should have been' though - I guess they had to leave something to improve for the Two X
Only real remaining issue for me is the heat and battery life but I guess they are the sacrifices we have to make for adopting new technology.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
got mine delivered approx 2 weeks ago and not had any problems at all.
Laurentius26 said:
Incredible to read, awful for you.
Touch wood indeed, hopefully it will be ok this time.
My previous devices, HTC Universal, Kaiser, Artemis, Blackstone, HD2, and now One X and no problem once again, amazing isn't?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a Touch Pro 2 and then a Desire Z and had no problem with either of them, so it does seem that something went wrong with the HOX
Laurentius26 said:
One thing you probably must admit, the service of HTC must be great if they try to fix your device 4 times in a row isn't?
And they must have done that very quick as well because the device isn't that long on the market (1, max 2 months?).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well actually the praise goes to T-Mobile, they are the ones who swapped without any questions - and without checking if they were rooted
The first 3 lasted about 7 days each - I got to know the delivery driver exchanging them quite well!
Laurentius26 said:
Edit; I see you both (Op and you) come from the UK, could it be possible HTC shipped some bad quality samples to the UK?
It's just a taught.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's possible. It's also possible that they rushed the launch to get out ahead of the S3 and consequently cut some corners.
---------- Post added at 12:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:44 AM ----------
crsnwby said:
this phone is a peice of ****.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that's a tad harsh
The HOX could and should have been a stunning phone and there is still room for most of the problems to be ironed out with software updates.
I'm not sure Tegra 3 was the wisest choice though - It just seems to run too hot for its intended use in a phone - maybe we'll have to start getting used to fans in our phones!
I'd have been happier with an S4 and this screen and design (though I'd give up a few mm for a bigger battery). Seems like for once the US has the better alternative to us
Hmm.. I don't think HTC needs to push out anything to stay ahead of Samsung.
And those words are only assumptions isn't?
Fact is, in a forum there's always more negative feedback as positive, because people who are happy with the device don't have the need to talk about it.
I love the HTC One X and I don't have the experience like you have with it.
crsnwby said:
not really, good customer service is to test the device first not just push out miss manufactured terrible coded ****e to be ahead of the S3 which, eventually will kick the arse off this bag of ****, quad core what cant do animated wall papers... this phone is a peice of ****.
At least MS had the sense to tell the retards they cant mess with the OS, any my trophy works perfect. HTC TARDS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nohcho said:
I was gonna purchase one x to replace my 4s. But not anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But.. 4s is already one big defect..
Sorry, but your post kinda deserves it
Laurentius26 said:
Fact is, in a forum there's always more negative feedback as positive, because people who are happy with the device don't have the need to talk about it.
I love the HTC One X and I don't have the experience like you have with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with this completely.
I know more than 5 people with a HOX and none have had any problems.
My ONE X is perfect! Got it June 1st, not a problem at all. After reading all the negative comments a while back I did find myself looking for issues that I wasnt aware of but if you look so hard you will most likely find some tiny imperfection, these threads tend to make people do that.
Laurentius26 said:
Hmm.. I don't think HTC needs to push out anything to stay ahead of Samsung.
And those words are only assumptions isn't?
Fact is, in a forum there's always more negative feedback as positive, because people who are happy with the device don't have the need to talk about it.
I love the HTC One X and I don't have the experience like you have with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no its evidenced, they are trying to compete directly with the market leader since the S2 took over the market.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...mobile-market-share-for-first-quarter-1078612
Which evidence you are talking about, who says they are trying to compete?
I don't read anything about HTC pushed out the One X.
Sure that other company pushed out a lot of phones I read in the article.
Aggressive commercials always work but they don't say anything for me, even if it's a market leader atm, it doesn't say anything about the product.
crsnwby said:
no its evidenced, they are trying to compete directly with the market leader since the S2 took over the market.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't get how some phones can get hot, mine never gets more than a bit warm even when playing tegra games.
What is different??
Me neither.
The games I play:
* Max Payne (NEW ! )
* Shadowgun THD
* Flick Golf
* Grand Theft Auto III
* Mini Motor Racing
* Sonic 4 Episode II THD
* Pinball HD for Tegra
* Air Wing Pro
* Galazer
3D very recourse hungry games if you ask me.
My device should burn playing these if I read the stories in this thread.
dakine said:
I don't get how some phones can get hot, mine never gets more than a bit warm even when playing tegra games.
What is different??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And about multitasking, I know it sometimes has issues but I think that's more related to the app then to the machine.
For example, I do sports.
So I listen to music, check my training sessions with Runtastic, have a bluetooth heartrate sensor connected, plus a bluetooth stereo headset, checking my Facebook etc etc, multitasking works pretty good I would say, none of the apps close.
It's incredible how much apps I have installed and still my device runs great with plenty of memory and decent battery consumption.
crsnwby said:
no its evidenced, they are trying to compete directly with the market leader since the S2 took over the market.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...mobile-market-share-for-first-quarter-1078612
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you think its coincidence that HTC released an unfinished phone 2 weeks prior to the Galaxy S3 from the market leading company arriving?
Of course it was a rush job to get it out before everyone this year buys an S3, its the only way they can get some of the market share that Samsung dominate.
I disagree, it all depends what strategy you take.
For example, today we have HTC One X but who knows what will come tomorrow.
It wasn't a rush, the phone is great with just a few glitches in software, HTC will iron them out in the next update ;-)
crsnwby said:
Of course it was a rush job to get it out before everyone this year buys an S3, its the only way they can get some of the market share that Samsung dominate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jonsmith709 said:
Were do I start......My first One x had dead pixels and dust under screen, 2nd big yellow blob on grey or dark screens, 3rd Vibration stopped working, dead pixels and the last one had 3 dead pixels.... The phone its self is fantastic but HTC's build quality is dire...I have lost all faith in HTC, Luckily the Carphone Warehouse managed to exchange my phone for a different model of the same spec, as I was still within 28 days and because I had had so many exchanges.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're an unlucky man
I've had my HOX since as long as it's been available here in NL. I've dropped it, kept it without a case in my jeans pocket and it's flawless.
I assume most of this is FUD.

Well HOX, its been a great 2 weeks..

..but you're being replaced by the Droid Pro+, a slower, uglier, bulkier phone with a low rez screen.
Even by looking at the picture, you can see how horrible the screen on the Pro is compared to the HOX but that doesnt matter. I need my phone to reply back to texts, jot down notes, and input things in my calendar and i feel that the best, and quickest way to do this would be on a phone with physical keys. Oh and it feels great to have my four menu keys back.
I dont know what it is but i just couldnt get use to the on screen keyboard. Even using different keyboards(swiftkeys, ics keyboard, thumb keyboard, etc) i just found it really frustrating. I still think the iphone has by far the best onscreen keyboard.
Anyways, im not entirely putting the HOX out of comission, I still might use it as a weekend phone but as my daily driver, I'll be using the Pro+ until Motorola releases a better version.
Oh and one more thing..I've been a Treo user for the longest time so I just think I'm just bias towards phones with physical keyboards haha
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
i always use the keyboard on landscape,
a month in and i can type faster than i can on my pc
MO3iusONE said:
..but you're being replaced by the Droid Pro+, a slower, uglier, bulkier phone with a low rez screen.
Even by looking at the picture, you can see how horrible the screen on the Pro is compared to the HOX but that doesnt matter. I need my phone to reply back to texts, jot down notes, and input things in my calendar and i feel that the best, and quickest way to do this would be on a phone with physical keys. Oh and it feels great to have my four menu keys back.
I dont know what it is but i just couldnt get use to the on screen keyboard. Even using different keyboards(swiftkeys, ics keyboard, thumb keyboard, etc) i just found it really frustrating. I still think the iphone has by far the best onscreen keyboard.
Anyways, im not entirely putting the HOX out of comission, I still might use it as a weekend phone but as my daily driver, I'll be using the Pro+ until Motorola releases a better version.
Oh and one more thing..I've been a Treo user for the longest time so I just think I'm just bias towards phones with physical keyboards haha
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So........
Kickasskev said:
So........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh Im sorry, would you like me to add a qustion mark at the end of the thread topic?
Im posting this because as much as I love this phone, im a physical keyboard guy at heart, just wondering if anyone else can relate.
The HOX is an awesome phone but im not looking for awesome, im looking for productivity...Im sure gonna miss that screen though
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
Swype is much better than the iphone keyboard
After going from Sony Ericsson P900 to htc tytn ii to htc touch pro, I didn't think I could ever go without physical keyboard. I was wrong. Once you get used to it, an onscreen keyboard is much faster and definitely more productive because of it.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
crking1980 said:
No one cares about these of threads. Never ends well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And why is that? Cause im not praising the hox? Cause im not saying how awesome it is and how it trumps any other phone out there right now? Im not bashing the phone in anyway, im simply saying that its not for me as a daily driver. It an awesome phone and its a beautiful built phone but as a daily driver, its not ideal for me.
Like i said, im not gonna stop using it complelty, im already missing the size of that screen but as other people stated, swype makes it easier to type on? Hell i might give it a shot.
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
My wife had the same issue when she went from a real keyboard to an on-screen one.
However, after trying various different one we have settled on Swiftkey 3 beta and now she would never go back.
Give it a little longer and you will see the benefits, hopefully.
Have you tried the keyboard on the 9900? It is heads and tails above any other keyboard I have used the this swift key is the second best.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
MO3iusONE said:
And why is that? Cause im not praising the hox? Cause im not saying how awesome it is and how it trumps any other phone out there right now? Im not bashing the phone in anyway, im simply saying that its not for me as a daily driver. It an awesome phone and its a beautiful built phone but as a daily driver, its not ideal for me.
Like i said, im not gonna stop using it complelty, im already missing the size of that screen but as other people stated, swype makes it easier to type on? Hell i might give it a shot.
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, if you'd said all those things it would still be a pointless thread.
Today, I'm wearing odd socks and I had cornflakes for breakfast.
farnsbarns said:
Nope, if you'd said all those things it would still be a pointless thread.
Today, I'm wearing odd socks and I had cornflakes for breakfast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I suppose what you just said would make sense in a socks thread and cereal thread but this is a phone forum, hence why we're talking about phones.
I stated that this phone was hard for me to adjust to and so far, a few people have actually recommended certain keyboards to try out. They're actually being pretty helpful come to think of it.
You know what? You best just mossy on if you have nothing informative to say lol
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
MO3iusONE said:
I suppose what you just said would make sense in a socks thread and cereal thread but this is a phone forum, hence why we're talking about phones.
I stated that this phone was hard for me to adjust to and so far, a few people have actually recommended certain keyboards to try out. They're actually being pretty helpful come to think of it.
You know what? You best just mossy on if you have nothing informative to say lol
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Must have missed the part where you asked for keyboard recommendations. I thought you'd simply said you were getting rid. Silly me, best I just mosey indeed.
farnsbarns said:
Must have missed the part where you asked for keyboard recommendations. I thought you'd simply said you were getting rid. Silly me, best I just mosey indeed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you missed the part where i said i needed something that would allow me to type quickly and jot down notes, everyone else seemed to give me some input, some alternatives and even some keyboards to try for my one x and your the only one complaining about my thread..but yes, you best me on your way unless you have something useful to say.
Anyways.. ill give swype a try.. i had tried it on my HTC Evo a while ago but i wasnt a big fan of it, hopefully theyve worked out the kinks. Thanks for the feedback people, maybe I wont put the Hox down after all lol
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
MO3iusONE said:
And why is that? Cause im not praising the hox? Cause im not saying how awesome it is and how it trumps any other phone out there right now? Im not bashing the phone in anyway, im simply saying that its not for me as a daily driver. It an awesome phone and its a beautiful built phone but as a daily driver, its not ideal for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, because this is the XDA Developers forum, not Facebook. These forums are for interesting topics that are informative and useful, not someone's personal opinion about whether a physical keyboard is better than a software one. This forum is for that.
I don't mean to cause offence, but there are A LOT of these kind of threads.
@Op,
Another boring thread about the HOX being bad....
How many of these threads has been opened?
If you don't like it go to the machine you like to my opinion but stop cluttering the board and bother us with this BS.
Post is in the wrong section as well, if you are so full of keyboards and Droid Pro+ you should have tried XDA General section to hit a 'wider audience' with your 'experience'.
Pffff... bye!
OP, for lack of a kinder way to phrase it, and the fact it's been a long day...
Shutup.
If you want to point out serious issues, ways the community can help you with that, then by all means that is what XDA is for.
What it isn't for....is to write a tribute to your One X, saying goodbye to it because you don't like the keyboard.
You can do that in private, just hold it up and say goodbye.
enough with these stupid stupid threads, really the worst part about the HOX
its good reviews and coverage attracted too many newbies to "try" it out
you know i made too new decisions i will never ever again advice and apple fan to buy or try an android...seriously i want me, my family and my friends to enjoy it all on our own
I LOVE MY HTC ONE X
MO3iusONE said:
everyone else seemed to give me some input, some alternatives and even some keyboards to try for my one x and your the only one complaining about my thread
Sent from my MB632 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you deluding yourself or just not reading the responses?
And... You specified that even with 3rd party keyboards you were not happy so why would I suggest keyboards?
This thread was simply you trolling. I know it, you know it, even the people who were politely making suggestions probably knew it. What kind souls with such humility. Not me, I call it as I see it.
Yet again another pointless thread that will be closed by the mods.
If I don't like anything about ANY phone I have I don't broadcast it to the nation I try and find a solution to the problem. If I can't find one I'll live with it. No doubt there are things you don't like on your replacement, are you gonna broadcast to the world again and get another phone?
Please mods close the thread.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

HTC One X potential issues?

Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
use search and you will find everything you need...
Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally I think the One x is the best phone around at the moment and have been more than happy with my choice of mobile, for some mixed reviews have a read through this thread and post back your thoughts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821976
matt95 said:
use search and you will find everything you need...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
McBeaker said:
Personally I think the One x is the best phone around at the moment and have been more than happy with my choice of mobile, for some mixed reviews have a read through this thread and post back your thoughts
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was quite a read and looks promising, I do see some posts what are a bit of a second thought but I'm not sure if they're iphone fanboys.
- GPS?
- Wi-Fi?
- Screen Flickering? (Seen this one quite a few times on the internet)
- Overheating (Seen this one a lot too)
Hyflex said:
I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
That was quite a read and looks promising, I do see some posts what are a bit of a second thought but I'm not sure if they're iphone fanboys.
- GPS?
- Wi-Fi?
- Screen Flickering? (Seen this one quite a few times on the internet)
- Overheating (Seen this one a lot too)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
every phone is different, someone is facing dead digitizer, someone wifi iussue (i also faced this too), i do not have overheating and sceend flickering should be gone in the newer one x thanks to ota updates
Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi. I have had iphone 3gs, iphone 4, iphone 4s, galaxy s2 and now HOX and it is the best I of all those (it was kind of lousy at software at the start , laggy and awful battery) but the recent upgrades have made it super smooth and very decent battery wise. Hands down has the best screen ever, easily beating the Galaxy S3 and beating the iphone 4s by a hair (better whites IMHO). The phone is super smooth, screen is AMAZING, gps works great, is stylish.
However, make sure you can easily return your phone in case some of these show up :
- Weak wifi signal, know production issue on early batches, it is a design flaw.
- Yellow spots on screen
- Flickering on screen
I think those are the most common issues you might face. If you think a return/exchange will be difficult, I would advise you buy the SHS3 or iphone 5.
What potential issues (that has not been mentioned already on the board) would you like to have mentioned to suffice your need?
Hyflex said:
I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
matt95 said:
every phone is different, someone is facing dead digitizer, someone wifi iussue (i also faced this too), i do not have overheating and sceend flickering should be gone in the newer one x thanks to ota updates
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Garoto1973 said:
Hi. I have had iphone 3gs, iphone 4, iphone 4s, galaxy s2 and now HOX and it is the best I of all those (it was kind of lousy at software at the start , laggy and awful battery) but the recent upgrades have made it super smooth and very decent battery wise. Hands down has the best screen ever, easily beating the Galaxy S3 and beating the iphone 4s by a hair (better whites IMHO). The phone is super smooth, screen is AMAZING, gps works great, is stylish.
However, make sure you can easily return your phone in case some of these show up :
- Weak wifi signal, know production issue on early batches, it is a design flaw.
- Yellow spots on screen
- Flickering on screen
I think those are the most common issues you might face. If you think a return/exchange will be difficult, I would advise you buy the SHS3 or iphone 5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wifi is normal, it weakens when you block the edge on top of the phone with your hand. Normally it is good
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
That's why I'm asking this question.
You will get the same answers as are already mentioned so many times.
Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Laurentius26 said:
What potential issues (that has not been mentioned already on the board) would you like to have mentioned to suffice your need?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
AboulSAM said:
Wifi is normal, it weakens when you block the edge on top of the phone with your hand. Normally it is good
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see, I just didn't want a device with massive drop offs in wi-fi strength.
Laurentius26 said:
That's why I'm asking this question.
You will get the same answers as are already mentioned so many times.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True, but it looks like I'm sold on the One X already.
atrako1973 said:
I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The dust issue wouldn't be a problem at all for me, if it got severe enough I'd open it up myself and clean it out. I have a few spare Void stickers laying around but yeah a lot of fixes seemed to come with the 2.17 update by a lot of peoples feedback.
My next thing to find and decide is what tablet should I get? I might try my luck with a Windows 8 RT Tablet because the ASUS Transformer TF700 (Infinity) seems to have it's only array of issues which are really really putting me off, I already had a TF201 what was fault crazy.
I personally wished that i had bought an S3/Note2/nexus-phone now, latest JB Sense roms are only available for certain devices with specific CIDs, others with CIDS not on the list will have to wait for the official update.
Screen:
Brilliant, bright, clear & solid
me:
I run at the lowest setting to save battery -_-
I have a screen protector on mines after scratches showed up, so it doesn't feel as silky smooth.
Battery:
Poor.. with careful management you can get good results but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a top end device right?
me:
I carry an external usb charger now, only viable solution for days when you need to have your phone run all day and more.
Storage:
I can live with the ~28GB usable space but who doesn't want more? microsd would be awesome.
If my phone dies (my previous desire just started having the 7 vibrate problem/dead mobo problem) there's absolutely no easy way to recover the data.
Sending it off to HTC will only result in the device getting repaired/wiped + charge for having it rooted right?
me:
dropbox sync/regular backups
..what are the benefits of rooting again?
Hyflex said:
I see, I just didn't want a device with massive drop offs in wi-fi strength.
True, but it looks like I'm sold on the One X already.
The dust issue wouldn't be a problem at all for me, if it got severe enough I'd open it up myself and clean it out. I have a few spare Void stickers laying around but yeah a lot of fixes seemed to come with the 2.17 update by a lot of peoples feedback.
My next thing to find and decide is what tablet should I get? I might try my luck with a Windows 8 RT Tablet because the ASUS Transformer TF700 (Infinity) seems to have it's only array of issues which are really really putting me off, I already had a TF201 what was fault crazy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont have wifi problems since my router is on ground level and i live on seccond flor i still have 2 solid bars without speed drops, dont have dust issues too. But if you happen to have something like that trust me you wont be opening it since ih has unibody without screews. You must unglue it wich is not easy task. All that is covered in waranty if it does happen. And jellybean comes soon to and trust me it runns lot better than on s3 . since i have acces to both phones. And for tablets i must say , dont go for windows. Android is much better and i think apps are better.
Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem, good luck with it! It is an amazing phone, after 6 months of having it I would say it is the best one I have ever had. It takes amazing photos too.
I have discovered one thing with Android phones, you need to work a little to get the most of them, customize them the way you like, do a little research to optimize its speed and battery, nothing out of this world but thats why I always end up recommending the iphone to my non-techie friends and family. I remember how much I hated my SGS2 at first and how I could not let go of it before I sold it!
One last piece of advise with the HOX though, do get a case for it that protect the screen edges, I dropped mine and because the glass goes to the edges it broke easily and getting a replacement screen is very time consuming!
---------- Post added at 08:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 AM ----------
atrako1973 said:
I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is a stupid design flaw, I opened mine and repaired it in 10 min (the wifi antenna needs to be lifted up a little). However, I dont recommend doing that . I did it only as a last recourse as I am out of warranty and there is no HTC service center in my country.
Apparently this has been fixed on recent batches. However looks like the old damaged batches are still plentiful and are still being sold.
kennylovesyou said:
I personally wished that i had bought an S3/Note2/nexus-phone now, latest JB Sense roms are only available for certain devices with specific CIDs, others with CIDS not on the list will have to wait for the official update.
Screen:
Brilliant, bright, clear & solid
me:
I run at the lowest setting to save battery -_-
I have a screen protector on mines after scratches showed up, so it doesn't feel as silky smooth.
Battery:
Poor.. with careful management you can get good results but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a top end device right?
me:
I carry an external usb charger now, only viable solution for days when you need to have your phone run all day and more.
Storage:
I can live with the ~28GB usable space but who doesn't want more? microsd would be awesome.
If my phone dies (my previous desire just started having the 7 vibrate problem/dead mobo problem) there's absolutely no easy way to recover the data.
Sending it off to HTC will only result in the device getting repaired/wiped + charge for having it rooted right?
me:
dropbox sync/regular backups
..what are the benefits of rooting again?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All those points are valid kenny.
I don't have a problem with storage as I only need it for photos and a little for music, heck I'd be fine with 8GB, this is huge for me.
Keeping the screen at low brightness (even at 0%) isn't a huge deal to me because the One X's screen seems to be quite a bit brighter than say the one on iPhone 4S (I remember seeing that in a tech article/YouTube video). Which means it'll still look beautiful regardless of how low you set the brightness (and upping it a bit when exposed to direct sunlight won't be a huge deal for the battery).
As for the battery - seeing as how this charming device wants you to keep using it - it leaves a lot to be desired:
The bad:
-it's non-removable; this fact alone scares me to this day...after a year or two it might become unusable and I'm not sure I'll be able to replace it anywhere in my country
-you won't get more than 4hrs screen-on time if you keep switching the apps and menus, browse the internet or play games
-when you know that the battery will seldom last over a day if you use the phone, you'll never feel a lot like gaming, which just halves the battery life
The good:
-reading on the One X, which is simply a lovely experience at 312 dpi, is quite possible for 6 hours while making a few calls and sending a few texts, and having your battery last through the day
-the stand-by time is impressive
-phone calls and music don't seem to use up a lot of juice on this phone at all
One more thing to note is that although this phone is a beauty without a match, it is slippery as hell and without a case, you're bound to drop it sooner or later, and then it will most likely shatter. Personally, I take the case off when I'm home and hold it carefully, and put it back on when I go outside.

Categories

Resources