I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
i think it will but there will be a slight delay as HTC need to update Sense to work with 2.2 whereas the N1 has no overlays so can be updated as soon as the update is released
daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
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Still, it will take HTC alot of work to migrate to 2.2 in the first place. After which defragmentation concept can be applied.
Anyway, the complexity of it will be clear when that feature is out.
abc27 said:
They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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Did you read this somewhere?
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Did you read this somewhere?
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
Look at it this way...HTC supposedly take such a long time because they build Sense to integrate tightly with the underlying OS. It's hooked in. The direction Google is taking is going to mean Sense is a separate self standing app/service...so HTC now have to re-write it probably from the ground up. That's not a trivial task if that's what this means.
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
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You're right, all these are promised to be coming to the Desire, and Flash 10.1 is rumored to be coming to Nexus 1 with Froyo.
But that doesn't mean all these features require the update to Froyo, at least I hope so, or the Desire will have to wait for a long time.
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
I REALLY hope that the seperated update stuff will be here sooner than later. I am actually quite surprised since I got the Hero that it's not in Android to start with.
And it's the only way Google can avoid fragmentation, which imho is one of the biggest threat to the platform so far.
Warranty issue also depends on where you live. They can put in as much warranty void thingies in as they want. But when my phone has a hardware issue and they don't want to fix because I changed something in the software they will be in trouble. And then they can try and prove my software change damaged the hardware.
I thought it was the other way around?
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
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Also, don't forget that HTC has access to early builds and source of future versions because they are building terminals based on it. Porting Sense is probably being done right now, they don't have to wait like we do.
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I thought it was the other way around?
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It's not check the thread I made "Rooting and warranty statement"
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
Noiz said:
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
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Your wife has made many people here very happy...
Joking aside that's really good news
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The new android 2.2 will apparently launch on 19. may, will the desire also get this update or is it unsupported? also, post any news here
It'll get it, it's just a question of when.
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It'll get it, it's just a question of when.
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agreed, htc will take a LIFETIME to release this for sense
in fact from my experience what will happen is that before next month another 3 phones will be released and they will no longer support the desire
although i have heard of google fragmentation which if true could mean that adjustments do not need to be made for sense and android 2.2 could simply be installed to our desires?
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I hope it wont take as long as the hero update, wich was announced to release december 2009, now its may and its still not here, and ITS THE 2.1!
I had a hero before, but i couldnt wait for the update so i bought a desire
Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?
of course will be, the question is when?
thats quick ....
Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )
you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM
2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."
As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens
it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.
Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.
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Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.
IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.
BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/
450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!
I feel I should w8 will it allow apps 2sd?
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Depends how long you're willing to wait
Froyo should include A2SD, but who knows when HTC comes up with the 2.2 upgrade for Desire.
this is true...however should b fairly quick its the flag ship Android mobile can't see another 4release in conjunction with 2.2 release
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I'm waiting ;-). Everything that I need the phone to do, it does... SO no real need to update as of yet. Will probably wait for official updates as I prefer official releases (possibly less bugs etc)
Moved to General Desire Forum.
Don't see where this hooks into Development or Rom cooking.
sorry thought it was ok here
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Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
I am not sure if I am correct but this is the way I understood Android to be going.
i am actually, kinda scared of rooting im not 100% sure but seen somwhere a news bout release being sometime in the summer may-june think it was
I'm of those waiting... unless I can find a quick, simple and automated way of backing up and restoring everything about my current phone fast, it 'ain't happening until I see 2.2.
Many other reasons... including too many unknowns, unsubstantiated unclears, bricking not being an option for me in these months and so forth.
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Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
That is the big deal. Android 2.2 will come maybe next month, but when HTC 'come' with their update, who knows...
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Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
Regards,
Dave
I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU. We need to hope they (HTC) release the Kernel source. Once this happens, there will surely be a release of a modified Kernel with SetCPU support and overclocking/undervolting (assuming the CPUs in the Desire are binned the same way as the CPUs in the Nexus, this should yield a 10% overclock and better battery life).
Problem is HTC is really slow in releasing the source, it's borderline, illegal, and very irritating.
Mastoid said:
Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU.
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I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but my sliders seem to work fine. The widget display claims my speeds are scaling too, and my battery life seems remarkably improved, though that could be due to running the MCR. I don't know.
[EDIT] I see what you mean about the sliders now. Battery life still seems better though?
Ramedge said:
Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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See I thought this was the whole point of FroYo. We all get the basic Google Rom (maybe with a few service provider tweaks) then we download UI of our choice from the market.
Apart from service providers having to mess around with the Rom there's no reason why we should be waiting for months to get it. Most people in this thread seem to give the impression that we won't see 2.2 for ages while HTC upgrade Sense(I assume there's a few ex-hero users in here). This isn't true though, we'll be running 2.2 and waiting for a download of sense via the market. yeah?
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
I can't wait until Froyo gets here!!!
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
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Can I ask why you think this? I reckon we'll get 2.2 the same time as the Nexus . If everything I've read about 2.2 is correct then Sense will just be released to the market when it's updated for us to download.
am I really wrong or the only person in this thread who understands what's going on with 2.2?
As per Engadgets Website - Nexus one users have recieved an over the air Froyo Update.
Android 2.2 Froyo FRF85 now available for any Nexus One build? (update)
By Ross Miller posted Jun 28th 2010 at 9:51PM
We've been receiving numerous tips over the last hour that Nexus One owners on AT&T bands are receiving an over-the-air update for Android 2.2 FRF85, otherwise known as the "bulletproofed" Froyo build. No confirmation at this point, and since you're asking, no word yet either on an update for the larger T-Mobile N1 install base (though we've had at least one report of a user on FRF50 getting the OTA today). We've pinged Google for answers, will let ya know what we hear.
Update: Thanks to a few readers, we've now got a direct link from Google's servers to update from EPE54B to FRF85.
Update 2: Tipster Christian R has sent us a picture of his T-Mobile-banded Nexus One with FRF85, apparently updated from Android 2.1 build ERE27. Has the T-Mobile rollout begun? Not for us, at least.
Update 3: And now we've got a direct link to download a FRF85 build that'll supposedly work for any Android build. We can safely say that it worked for us on a T-Mobile device with 2.1 / ERE27. Download from Google here, and if you need direction on how to do the update yourself, take a cue from our commenters. [Thanks, MRCUR and afinite]
Dont think it will come next for the desire because HTC have to put their sense stuff in, but its a step in the right direction i suppose
i'm not going to hold my breath
I reckon they will bring it to the Evo first.
yes ,I think also same
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I reckon they will bring it to the Evo first.
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Desire is the best they got 4 non-america region.
they better not do evo 4g first. we were first in line.
r47z said:
they better not do evo 4g first. we were first in line.
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Go kick their you know what!
I am also convinced the American market will be the priority.
hopefully they will go EVO4 first before desire as there are plenty of things to fix on the evo compared to the desire. the 2.2 roms are still damn good but lack sense ui
Would there still be the need to Root and Flash the device once FroYo is released officially by HTC on the desire?
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hopefully they will go EVO4 first before desire as there are plenty of things to fix on the evo compared to the desire. the 2.2 roms are still damn good but lack sense ui
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I really don't get the deal with Sense UI. What does it add really? Scrollable widgets? Puts the ringer off when you turn it upside down? Helicopter view?
Hardly use any of these features anyhow. Sorry if i am missing a big feature available with sense which stock android doesn't have.
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Would there still be the need to Root and Flash the device once FroYo is released officially by HTC on the desire?
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no you wont need to root.
Ah ok then, will see if it will be released anytime soon then, if not will try a cooked ROM until its released.
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I really don't get the deal with Sense UI. What does it add really? Scrollable widgets? Puts the ringer off when you turn it upside down? Helicopter view?
Hardly use any of these features anyhow. Sorry if i am missing a big feature available with sense which stock android doesn't have.
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there's lots of bits and pieces that just make it look nicer, obviously wont make it run better, some might regard it bloatware I quite like it, but i would do without if they gave me an update.
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Ah ok then, will see if it will be released anytime soon then, if not will try a cooked ROM until its released.
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i really really doubt it will be before August, September is probably more realistic.... i hope...
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I really don't get the deal with Sense UI. What does it add really? Scrollable widgets? Puts the ringer off when you turn it upside down? Helicopter view?
Hardly use any of these features anyhow. Sorry if i am missing a big feature available with sense which stock android doesn't have.
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Its more down to 'change' and use to using sense ui for so many years.
veryjiggy said:
I really don't get the deal with Sense UI. What does it add really? Scrollable widgets? Puts the ringer off when you turn it upside down? Helicopter view?
Hardly use any of these features anyhow. Sorry if i am missing a big feature available with sense which stock android doesn't have.
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sence isnt just a homescreen replacement, it replaces many of the defult google apps
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I reckon they will bring it to the Evo first.
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I have a feeling that the Desire and Evo will get an upgrade at about the same time, but if one was going to come first I'd expect it on the Desire as apart from updating Sense for 2.2, there is far less work involved on the Desire due to its similarity to the Nexus.
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Desire to get Froyo in Q3
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Hi
Does anyone know if android 2.3 is arriving on the HTC Desire?
if it does when?
-Frederik Thorsted
Within next few weeks, , hopefully before x-mas
Thank you very much
Maybe sooner if someone does a quick port of the sdk emulator image
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Maybe sooner if someone does a quick port of the sdk emulator image
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Sources will be most likely released before a "quick port" of sdk emulator image.
will it be an official update?
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Within next few weeks, , hopefully before x-mas
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Gingerbread ROM will be released within two weeks for the Nexus One..I'm sure that someone of our fine devs will port it to the Desire..But so far HTC made no announcements regarding an official Gingerbread update for us.. Anyway, -my beloved developers ( )- some guys have uploaded some gingerbread stuff ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863317 ) but I dont really know what this is..Will we get a custom ginger anytime soon?
so we still dont know if desire will get gingerbread officially from HTC??
unfortunately the desire won't recieve the official release...market reason...
And where did you get this information? Unless you can provide a source nothing is definite yet
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unfortunately the desire won't recieve the official release...market reason...
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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My thoughts exactly, if not, someone will eventually port .
Yes.. My feeling is that the desire will get the new Sense along with Gingerbread release.
Well.. even if they dont release it officially for Desire, they will have to release it anyway for the Z/HD and our mods can port it in no time. Our Desires dont have the hardware limitation (especially internal storage with A2SD/D2SD). Then we desire users can flash those roms and show the finger to HTC...
We have the mods... they are our gods!!
Market reason?
With the 2 years warranty there must be not only assistance in case of broken phone, but also the confirmation of continous upgrading with new software, bugfix until the 2 years are passed and 'til the phone risk not to support th upgrading.
This should be the real 2 year warranty so much declared in the instructions and things like that
bobbysixkiller said:
bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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according to an article I read on pocketnow, HTC comes out with 2.3 in March of 2011.
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And where did you get this information? Unless you can provide a source nothing is definite yet
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my dad is the managaer of HTC italia company...he told me that...but he wasn't sure...but i hope it wll release it!!!
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my dad is the managaer of HTC italia company...he told me that...but he wasn't sure...but i hope it wll release it!!!
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Daniele De Grandis
Country Manager, Italy
HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
He has no child.
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alwayslearning said:
according to an article I read on pocketnow, HTC comes out with 2.3 in March of 2011.
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I hope it comes out before
well, there's still hope: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...d-android-2-3-update--913929?src=rss&attr=all
and for the "quick port", it indeed came quick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863884
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Daniele De Grandis
Country Manager, Italy
HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Edited.
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i'm joking guy...come on sorry hihi...however i hope that gingerbread will be official on our Desires too!