wifi power saving policy - Desire General

I want my desire's wifi goes to sleep when i lock the screen; therefore i set the option to "after 15 minutes". However, when i woke up several times during last night >.< to find that every time when i turn the screen on, i could see the wifi was still on. what should i do? thanks

WiFi
Try installing Juice Defender from the Market. Works for me.

have the wifi and 3g on off buttons as widgets on one of the home screens, and turn them off easily when not needed, like sleeping, takes a few seconds to reconnect, saves alot of battery for me

Try installing Juice Defender from the Market. Works for me.
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thanks for the alternative. I wish the generic option can work as it is supposed to
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have the wifi and 3g on off buttons as widgets on one of the home screens, and turn them off easily when not needed, like sleeping, takes a few seconds to reconnect, saves alot of battery for me
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thank you for this. just curious, if we have to use widget to control the connection, what is the policy designed for? do I misunderstand the purpose of that or it IS not functioning rightly?
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the policys are for automated controls, so its meant to turn off after 15 mins or whatever, i keep it as a widget so i can turn them on and off manually as i generally have the wifi or 3g on all the time for gtalk etc
i turn the 3g off when going under ground, sleeping or in a meeting where i wnt be needed it. its easier to do manually then wait for the automated to kick in in my oppinion

TurkzZ said:
the policys are for automated controls, so its meant to turn off after 15 mins or whatever, i keep it as a widget so i can turn them on and off manually as i generally have the wifi or 3g on all the time for gtalk etc
i turn the 3g off when going under ground, sleeping or in a meeting where i wnt be needed it. its easier to do manually then wait for the automated to kick in in my oppinion
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i do want it automatically turn off the wifi for me. i think my problem is that even i set it to "after 15 mins", the wifi is still on even after 20 or 30 mins after i turn off the screen.

Usually it will stay off until you awaken the screen (phone) by which time it will try to re-enable itself for your convenience.
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i tried the setting in Nexus as well. In Nexus, it is not "after 15 mins", but "when screen turns off". unfortunately, even you check the wifi status after you turn off the screen 10 mins later, the wifi is still on.. totally no idea how that is supposed to work..

How are you checking whether the WiFi is on? By waking it up again, or seeing whether it is connected to your router?

TurkzZ said:
have the wifi and 3g on off buttons as widgets on one of the home screens, and turn them off easily when not needed, like sleeping, takes a few seconds to reconnect, saves alot of battery for me
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Yes that works for me to, just a simple quick press on or off and no worries about it using battery life when you dont want it to.

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Anyone Using Tasker?

Anyone here using it? what is this app for? is it worth buying? does it give u battery life? im really interested but i cant find no videos on it on youtube. please share your thoughts.
It is worth every penny. The best app for android IMO. It is not very easy to master it, but even the basic stuff has made a vast difference too the behavior of my phone.
For example, I have extended my battery life to 38 hours simply by having it automatically go into airplane mode between midnight and 6am.
It will turn off wifi, back screen brightness down, change screen timeout to 10 seconds and give me a notification popup and sound when my battery drops below 15%.
It will turn on gps when Wavesecure is activated, something Wavesecure can't do by itself.
It will turn my ringer off when I get within 200m of the two cinemas I go to.
It turns wifi on when I get home, and off when I leave. Same for work.
It loads my music app when I plug my headphones in.
Tasker can make widgets! I have one set up to (with one press from my home screen) turn up screen brightness, turn on gps, turn up speaker volume to max, wait 2 seconds, then launch google navigation. It will then turn everything back when I exit out of navigation.
It will, on weekdays, text my girlfriend at a certain part of my journey home after work. That way my dinner is ready when I get home!!!
I would say try out the free 1 week trial. There is even a wiki and web site with extensive instructions and examples uploaded by other users. You can also import profiles as well as create your own. The really handy ones I have exported to my sd card, and e-mailed them to a friend when he bought Tasker. Not sure I helped him though as there is a steep learning curve for this app, and it is worth being patient with it to learn its ways for yourself.
I think it is worth much much more than the asking price.
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wow sounds sooo nice . i already bought full version yesterday but havnt even opened the app once . well i did open it once it seems hard to understand lol . so for all this task does the gps need to be on? or not? and can u turn off 3g?
You can turn off APN, but don't think that works well in the UK. Sorry, my knowledge of 3g is limited.
Basically, you can have tasker turn on and off nearly any feature of your phone that your want. There are two sides to tasker. The "Profile" and the "Task".
I have found it is best to first set up the "task". Say you want to save battery power at night. Select the task button and select "new". Call it "power save" or something. Select the + symbol and select "Net". In this menu, pick "Airplane mode" and select to ' on'. Then hit ok, then save.
Now to create the 'Profile' where you define the contexts that will activate the "power save" task you just created.
Select 'new' then select the 'time' context. Enter the time you would like to have your phone go into airplane mode. After hitting 'ok' it will take you to the profile page where you set up what now happens between the times you just specified. From the drop-down at the to of the page, select the "power save" task you created earlier. Hit 'ok'.
Done. Your Tasker will now shut off all your radios between the times you entered.
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Worth every penny. I use it to:
- turn on GPS for programs that need it (turns back of when editing the program)
- turn notifications off when starting desk clock
- change volume when connecting head phones
There are endless possibilities, try it and then buy it.
i've bought it for little things but want it to be able to handle 3g data which it doesn't
i,e turn on wifi, if no conn after 10 secs, turn on 3g, auto sync for a min, then turn data off.
works fine and dandy with wifi, but not 3g.
tommo123 said:
i've bought it for little things but want it to be able to handle 3g data which it doesn't
i,e turn on wifi, if no conn after 10 secs, turn on 3g, auto sync for a min, then turn data off.
works fine and dandy with wifi, but not 3g.
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You need APNDroid to disable 3G.
tasker really is worth every penny!
Wort every cent. Must have
I used to check periodically (every 3 minut) if my car Bluetooth near. If yes connect and and hold on the connection. If disconnect wait 15 minutes and seek again... save really battery... fantastic...
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Tyderion said:
You need APNDroid to disable 3G.
tasker really is worth every penny!
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it still doesn't work. it turns apndroid on, but 3g flashes up then dissapears.
wnp_79 said:
It will, on weekdays, text my girlfriend at a certain part of my journey home after work. That way my dinner is ready when I get home!!!
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Now that i like. This app sounds amazing.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
wnp_79 said:
It is worth every penny. The best app for android IMO. It is not very easy to master it, but even the basic stuff has made a vast difference too the behavior of my phone.
For example, I have extended my battery life to 38 hours simply by having it automatically go into airplane mode between midnight and 6am.
It will turn off wifi, back screen brightness down, change screen timeout to 10 seconds and give me a notification popup and sound when my battery drops below 15%.
It will turn on gps when Wavesecure is activated, something Wavesecure can't do by itself.
It will turn my ringer off when I get within 200m of the two cinemas I go to.
It turns wifi on when I get home, and off when I leave. Same for work.
It loads my music app when I plug my headphones in.
Tasker can make widgets! I have one set up to (with one press from my home screen) turn up screen brightness, turn on gps, turn up speaker volume to max, wait 2 seconds, then launch google navigation. It will then turn everything back when I exit out of navigation.
It will, on weekdays, text my girlfriend at a certain part of my journey home after work. That way my dinner is ready when I get home!!!
I would say try out the free 1 week trial. There is even a wiki and web site with extensive instructions and examples uploaded by other users. You can also import profiles as well as create your own. The really handy ones I have exported to my sd card, and e-mailed them to a friend when he bought Tasker. Not sure I helped him though as there is a steep learning curve for this app, and it is worth being patient with it to learn its ways for yourself.
I think it is worth much much more than the asking price.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Wow sounds like you have a good understanding and has some good stuff. I don't know if you can, but I posted a page where maybe people can leave profiles for those of us who are a bit more chronologically challenged.
This is the greatest
I use tasker for everything. I am very forgetful so I have it pop up astrid tasks when I leave the house or work. The quiet mode works well for work and there is even a way to auto check in to foursquare.
Worth every penny, it makes your phone 10 times better and is a must have app.
I have profiles that do the following:
-During work hours and within range of the office set Vibrate, turn off wi-fi.
-When within range of home turn on Wi-Fi
-If at home after certain time in evening go silent
-When leaving car (detected by bluetooth connection to stereo), store time and location. Have icon on desktop to retrieve info and show on map to find car.
-When on call (by checking diary) if a colleague calls always ring regardless of silent.
-Say caller/texter name
-Send magic packet to wifes phone to report location and show on map (handy when shopping)
Plus many other scripts....
I find that this program has a pretty high learning curve...
Is there a wiki I can read up or a way to import other people's profiles?
YoYoost said:
I find that this program has a pretty high learning curve...
Is there a wiki I can read up or a way to import other people's profiles?
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http://tasker.dinglisch.net/
Using "Cell Near" instead of GPS
I was using Tasker to turn WIFI on and off based on GPS locations. However, I found an alternate method that does not use GPS calls (and waste battery use). Instead, I am now using "Cell Near" to find the cell tower near home and turn WIFI off when I am not within distance of it.
I have posting walkthroughs of all of the most useful profiles I have collected. Check it out at http://dbilliter.blogspot.com
Tasker rules my phone... With all the taks i made.... Love the app!!!
You can do almost everything if you know how to use it... Little variable programming and your phone will get his own life haha...
GREAT APP
the_ahmadzais said:
Anyone here using it? what is this app for? is it worth buying? does it give u battery life? im really interested but i cant find no videos on it on youtube. please share your thoughts.
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If you're interested I've put together this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018245 on how to use the CPU Profiles - I hope it's good enough to replace SetCPU!?
Let me know what you think.
problem with deleting profiles
i am also new to tasker. made a simple sms schedular, which worked fine, but when i deleted all the profiles, contexts and tasks...somehow sms is still going on scheduled time... tried to clear data, force stop it, but still sending sms.
any suggestion.
thanks

Tasker - Profiles

Hey everyone
Does anyone here use tasker or have any recommended profiles to help save battery life?
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Try Juice Defender with 3g control enabled.
I have mine set to enable every 30mins with good results..
With LOTS of syncing enabled, i get roughly 1% an hour decrease whilst on standby!! Unplugged at 1am on 89% when i went to bed, at 9am when i got up it was at 81%...
Hope this helps!
Dickie
Check WIKI on Tasker site,data profiles created by "brandall" from XDA
Tasker data profiles are better than Juice Defender
JuiceDefender has some annoying bugs in it at the moment (some like issues it has with lockscreen/display timeout) have been around for 4months+ and they still haven't sorted them out) so I've switched to Green Power which seems to do the job very well. Simple and no fuss.
Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.
mrBira said:
Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.
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why dont you use tasker for that,
you can do almost anything with that app.
Creating profiles in tasker isn't a huge difficult task, its easy, Just use trial n error to see if it works.
rudolf895 said:
why dont you use tasker for that,
you can do almost anything with that app.
Creating profiles in tasker isn't a huge difficult task, its easy, Just use trial n error to see if it works.
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That's what i'm using, and I'm asking for help to create that profile =)
mrBira said:
Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.
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Why don't just use the stock android checkbox in settings that's there for that? o_ô
Go to settings/network and wifi/wifi settings/hit the menu button and tap advanced parameters/wifi sleep politic/check "when screen goes off".
It does exactly what you described...
reggaemanu said:
Why don't just use the stock android checkbox in settings that's there for that? o_ô
Go to settings/network and wifi/wifi settings/hit the menu button and tap advanced parameters/wifi sleep politic/check "when screen goes off".
It does exactly what you described...
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Okay, i'll try to find a way on my own..
The reason i don't use androids built-in thing for that is because it drains battery for some strange reason.
One of maaaany sources: Here
mrBira said:
Okay, i'll try to find a way on my own..
The reason i don't use androids built-in thing for that is because it drains battery for some strange reason.
One of maaaany sources: Here
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Well mine is working fine, no draining at all (wifi on 24h24 with this option checked and my phone drain only 1% every 5 or 6h if the screen is off). The thing is that it shut off the wifi only if no app needs it, so my bet is that those who have a battery drain just have some apps that don't let the phone going in deep sleep.
mrBira said:
Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.
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Hi, if you try LLAMA app instead I could talk you through it (as your not getting an answer you want).
As far as I can tell, LLAMA can do everything that tasker and locale can do but its free. It's also very good on your battery and can use cell towers instead of gps for location.
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Not sure if I'm in the right place, new to smartphones. Got myself a Galaxy S2 and rooted it. Main point,
I'm using Tasker and I'm trying to have it set so that it's in Airplane Mode when I have an Alarm set so I get no calls/texts during my slumber.
So far, best thing I've done is the phone goes to Airplane Mode between 00:00 and 0600 everyday as well as when light levels are between 0 and 28 - not sure if the light levels are like, set too low.
So far I love Tasker but very little support online and Tasker Wiki doesn't really help. Trying my best with the trial and error method.
Thanks
mrBira said:
That's what i'm using, and I'm asking for help to create that profile =)
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I will make u one and upload it when i get home (in about an hour).
Edit: Profile uploaded
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Grevane said:
JuiceDefender has some annoying bugs in it at the moment (some like issues it has with lockscreen/display timeout) have been around for 4months+ and they still haven't sorted them out) so I've switched to Green Power which seems to do the job very well. Simple and no fuss.
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Good shout on Green Power. I've had some issues with Juice Defender Ultimate lately and Green Power seems to do more or less the same without the issues.
£1.50 well spent - cheers for the tip
Guitarfreak26 said:
Hey everyone
Does anyone here use tasker or have any recommended profiles to help save battery life?
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hi,
i'm using "setting profiles".
in the market you have a free and a payment app.
the developers answer the emails at decent speed...

To turn off, or not to turn off

I am using android 2.3.7 (inc deck gingerbread).
Ok, I just read that the GPS check box (in the setting menu, or quick settings or whatever) does not actually turn the GPS antenna on and off, it only gives permission to the apps (gps-using-apps) whether they can turn the antenna on and off. Therefore, changing the GPS checkbox does not really save any battery. Simply by turning off gps-using-apps the antenna gets shut down, and then the icon disappears. The checkbox is simply there in case I don't want the app to have the ability to turn it on, as needed.
I just was hoping to get confirmation that this is true, yes?
Ok so that leads me to wonder about the Wifi and and Mobile Data check boxes (or toggles, whatever). When my phone is connected to Wifi and the 3G icon disappears, does that mean my phone just automatically turned off the 3G antenna?
I just upgraded to the Pro version of that fabulous little app Automateit... and just wonder if it is pointless to set up a rule to turn off 3G when it is connected to Wifi.
Yep. I would keep GPS ticked on because it does not actually go on unless you have an app (like navigation) open.
- Other programs may use GPS for a few seconds just to read your location, then they turn it off (such as weather programs) - this type of GPS usage really doesn't affect battery.
When you turn WiFi on it does turns off mobile data (3G) and you only have 1x.
GPS is only used when asked by an app or maybe the browser. Wifi on the other hand is always scanning. I recommend turning it off if you don't need it.
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Thanks guys.
I have my wifi scan interval set to scan every 5 minutes. Hopefully that won't waste too much juice. he he
And if that wasn't stingy enough... with Automateit, my GPS, wifi and 3g get deactivated when the screen is off (all activate when screen is on). My battery life is pretty good, even overclocked . When I plugged in, going to bed the other night, I had 85% of my battery remaining (14 hours unplugged).
I should probably stop worrying about battery life.
iowabeakster said:
Thanks guys.
I have my wifi scan interval set to scan every 5 minutes. Hopefully that won't waste too much juice. he he
And if that wasn't stingy enough... with Automateit, my GPS, wifi and 3g get deactivated when the screen is off (all activate when screen is on). My battery life is pretty good, even overclocked . When I plugged in, going to bed the other night, I had 85% of my battery remaining (14 hours unplugged).
I should probably stop worrying about battery life.
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Yeah you really shouldn't have to be worrying about battery life, it's something that use to drive me insane so I just bought a 2150mah battery and haven't looked back since.

[Q] No 3g during night hours, sleep mode?

Dear all,
Is anyone else experiencing the following problem?
When the phone goes to sleep mode during the night hours it wont receive any messages for whatsapp etc. It seems that it turns off the 3g connection when you turn the screen off during the night hours.
Does anyone know a possible fix for this?
I have gone through all the settings and could not find anything about this.
Cheers.
I recently got this on my Desire Z too, and I have not changed any settings on that. Then I noticed it's happening on my One X too..
no 3g late night
Hi there, i have a motorola photon. in the settings menu you can go to what is called battery and data manager. then tap on battery mode. it's default is set to nighttime saver, which will kill your syncing after 15 minutes of inactivity in the hours between 10pm and 5am. i set mine to performance mode. this will sync all of the time and i don't really care if it takes up battery since i am awake and ready to pop in a new battery off my kick a$$ battery dock wall charger!! hope this helps....
SharkDog2 said:
Dear all,
Is anyone else experiencing the following problem?
When the phone goes to sleep mode during the night hours it wont receive any messages for whatsapp etc. It seems that it turns off the 3g connection when you turn the screen off during the night hours.
Does anyone know a possible fix for this?
I have gone through all the settings and could not find anything about this.
Cheers.
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I think it's got something to do with what HTC said about "the phone learning" when you check things like mails ect.. so after it has learned that you do not check mail (for instance) during the night it disengages activies... or not
@mykeyvee, there are no such options in the stock rom on this phone.
Anyone have any other ideas?, i want everything to be synced 24 hours a day.
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@mykeyvee, there are no such options in the stock rom on this phone.
Anyone have any other ideas?, i want everything to be synced 24 hours a day.
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I don't think it's anything to do with settings. My Desire Z is on 2.3.7 and only recently have I got this bug.
My One X is stock unrooted. No settings for power saving.
Accounts and sync>sync schedule>smart sync
Is this what is effecting you
http://www.htc.com/help/www/howto_iframe.aspx?id=141796&type=1&p_id=440
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unfortunately this only works with the mailw hich i do not user, the phone seems to do this with whatsapp and gmail aswel.
SharkDog2 said:
unfortunately this only works with the mailw hich i do not user, the phone seems to do this with whatsapp and gmail aswel.
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This. I woke up and my 3G wasn't even on. I had to disable and enable data again to get connected.
Same problem here. Whenever my phone is in standby mode for a longer period of time (as far as I've seen it doesn't matter whether it's during the night or day), the data connection (3g) is disconnected.
On my previous phone, a desire Z, there was a setting 'data always on' which addressed this issue. This setting however seems to be missing on all android 4 phones.
**edit:
Contacted Dutch HTC support; they claim it's a feature. Hope they restore the setting in the future..
I have noticed this too this morning.
I woke this morning and went into the battery settings and you can see the graph that all data was shut off over night.
How do we fix this.
Piss. Wondered why it used virtually no battery overnight...
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Exactly same here...just as u switch on the screen....it connects to wifi or 3g instantly...
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I have received email overnight though....
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I was thinking that maybe it was just the 3g/wifi connection which was going into a sleep mode after a long period of inactivity.
I've tried increasing my mail sync at night to once in 30 minutes to prevent the 3g connection from going to sleep and disconnecting. (had it at once in 4 hours)
Now when i wake up and turn the screen on, the 3g icon is already there, and my mail has been synced last in the previous 30 minutes.
Fixed it?
Same issue here, weird thing is that I can't seem to tie it down to either a specific battery-percentage nor a specific time of the day. It's really annoying though, as I would like my device to be connected 24/7. Tried setting a mail-account for 15 min update, so will see how much wifi/3g has been on tomorrow.
Edit: Definitely not a battery issue, but rather a time issue. Battery is at 80% (used the phone little today) and 3G/wifi has been disconnected for the past 2 hours even when mail is set to check every 15 min. I can see that for many people it's not important at night, but I wish we at least had the option to turn it off :/
Possible Fix
Download this app.. Minimaltext
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.devmil.minimaltext&feature=search_result
Create a widget 1x1, under the tap behavior, select start another activity, then select an activity. Scroll now to settings, expand it, choose power saving setting..
Leave the rest default then press okay.
Click the widget and you will find some settings, including put data connection to sleep when screen is off. I haven't tried it. Hope this helps.
Not a bug!
This is not a bug, but a feature : scheduled standby mode
If on Sense 4.x, settings are similar to Sense 3.5, you should go into settings > power then scroll to standby mode. Default setting is auto, which means that the phone learns your sleeping phases and disable every wirless connections during this time when your screen is off, and enable it again automatically when you wake up (even if your screen is still off).
You can disable this feature, or (my favorite option) manually set the duration when you allow your phone to enter and exit deep standby mode.
(For me it's a great feature, as I really dislike having my phone producing airwaves close by my head when I'm sleeping. Before I went to Sense 3.5 on my DHD, I didn't have this option and had to enable plane mode before sleeping ant enter my PIN code every morning to exit plane mode, which was less convenient).
If you want to disable this, download smartsync disabler from the play store. Im pretty sure there is a thread on xda too with an app available to download.
...Or read my previous post... Market's bloatware is not needed, setting for this should be in power settings, as on Sense 3.5.

[SOLVED] Wi-Fi won't turn off in sleep [post-JB update]: how to diagnose?

SOLVED: See this follow-up post; it's one of those 7 things!
Hi! After updating to LK3 (the stock 4.1.1 JB update), my Wi-Fi stays on even after I put the phone to sleep (contrary to the setting "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep: never (increases data usage)." See attached pics.
I have disabled thus far:
1) Google Now
2) Location Services "Use wireless networks" and "Location and Google search"
3) Location reporting: now set to "Location manually selected on the map"
4) Latitude location sharing
5) Location history
6) Automatic check-ins
7) Check-in notifications
Basically, everything I could find related to location. But, alas, that battery screenshot is after I changed all of those! Wi-Fi isn't on constantly, but it stays on way longer than just when I have the screen on.
What are my options here? How should I diagnose this sucker? I ran BetterBatteryStats, but they said it looked fine with my log (some apps, through the ambiguous "Alarms" partial wakelock, were the largest cause, but only accounted for 3.6% of the time).
I'm pretty sure this is a post-update problem, as before, whenever I unlocked my phone, I got the little notification, "Connected to #SSIDName#" and the Wi-Fi icon would obviously, then, be off for the first few seconds (and when I opened my browser too quickly, I'd get a "Page cannot be displayed" error).
Thanks in advance, I'll take any ideas/thoughts/help/sympathy/antipathy you can offer,
Same problem here. Before the update, it was doubletwist air sync forcing wifi on at all times. That's disabled now, so I have not clue. Hopefully somebody figures it out. Mine isn't even intermittent, it's always on, and I have the same setting as you.
So, I left my phone alone for the night and these programs used Wi-Fi while the screen was off:
Do you have any of the same apps? I'm going to uninstall Google+, Facebook, and GroupMe today and run this again tomorrow. But, looking at pure download amount, it's something on the OS....
If you're interested in doing the same, the app is My Data Manager ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/...e&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=my+data+manager).
Basically, install the app, but do not open it. When you're ready for bed (or any extended period of not using it), open it, and then minimize it (runs in the background). Hit your sleep button immediately (we don't want to capture anything of the phone when the screen is on). Then, when you wake up/need to use it, wake it up, immediately disable Wi-Fi (again, no artifacts from when the phone was awake), take a look at My Data Apps (2nd page), Wi-Fi.
I'll let you know how my second attempt goes.
The only one I have is Facebook, but yeah it definitely looks like the os.
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Well! Maybe I should have given it a little while longer, as it seems to be quite a bit better!
It still stays on longer than the screen, but now at least it shuts off once in a while, haha. It was either uninstalling Facebook, gMail, or GroupMe OR disabling one of those earlier settings...it's still not totally fixed, though. I found the Network Counter app which seems to be a little more specific, so we'll see how it goes tonight,
~Ibrahim~
Hmm this is what mine looks like from today. Wifi didn't go off until I did it manually.
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Have you disabled the location stuff? Those are what really helped me. I'm off to run the overnight test, with the new app!
i am having the same issues. my wifi since the jelly bean update has been always on.... the wifi bar in battery settings is solid and has never been off.... so frustrating.
Try "Green Power" app.
I use it to disable both wifi and data 20secs after screen off.
There is a Whitelist and a minimum threshold trigger too.
It works PERFECT in ICS.
At bedtime, I get .5% hr battery drain or better.
themadproducer said:
Try "Green Power" app.
I use it to disable both wifi and data 20secs after screen off.
There is a Whitelist and a minimum threshold trigger too.
It works PERFECT in ICS.
At bedtime, I get no less than .5% hr battery drain.
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Awesome, thanks for the info! Exactly, I don't mind Google Now using the Wi-Fi, but then that opens the door for everything to use the Wi-Fi which will kill the battery when I get back to work.
Network Manager didn't work for some reason, so I tried Data Detective, but the stupid app consumed 90% of the Wi-Fi last night!
The only thing I've heard against battery savers is that they force apps to not use the data, and then they keep asking (creating overhead). I wouldn't have believed it out right except it came from the developer of BetterBatteryStats. But your battery loss isn't bad at all (overnight I average 0.4%/hour with the screen off).
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(overnight I average 0.4%/hour with the screen off).
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I slightly edited my statement. I get .5% hr or better.
Curious...if you average .4%...
- what rom?
- and what is your lowest cpu freq?
- and is that with data and wifi off?
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I slightly edited my statement. I get .5% hr or better.
Curious...if you average .4%...
- what rom?
- and what is your lowest cpu freq?
- and is that with data and wifi off?
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Haha, right, I thought that's what you meant!
I'm on stock AT&T. Everything is stock; CPU Spy tells me 384Mhz. WiFi on, data off.
Why don't you guys disable it in settings? Open Wi-Fi in settings. Click menu button. Click advanced. Turn off Wi-Fi during sleep. Ta-da!
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Why don't you guys disable it in settings? Open Wi-Fi in settings. Click menu button. Click advanced. Turn off Wi-Fi during sleep. Ta-da!
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Yeah, that's an alternative...but if I have a setting that's supposed to turn it off when it goes to sleep, I'd like it to do that.
stbtigerr said:
Yeah, that's an alternative...but if I have a setting that's supposed to turn it off when it goes to sleep, I'd like it to do that.
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That's right, well said....hence the opening post!
I have the same issue, wi-fi is always on unless I turn it off.
I'm happy. It's one of those location settings in the first post that caused the locks! Let me know if it works for you guys,

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