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Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers

watchinthewheels said:
Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers
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If you follow crackwhores guide, you cant go wrong. You wont be sorry if you flash a cooked rom. Flash NRG28's latest Rom, or one of Dutty's or Miri's, just check out the Rom Development Forum and see which one takes your fancy. I have found NRG28's to be best for me, but they all have something to offer, for me, the biggest benefit is the difference in speed, i couldnt believe how much faster my HD was the first time I flashed it. If you get stuck with anything, just ask and someone will be able to help.

watchinthewheels said:
Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers
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1. No, there is no NEED to. But a non-exhaustive list of benefits include updated applications, faster response times, less bugs, etc.
2. If you go to the settings tab in TouchFlo and look down at the About section, it tells you what Manila version you have.
3. Most flashing issues are completely recoverable these days. However, there is always that miniscule chance that you muck up your device completely . However, if you follow my guide you really can't go wrong.
4. There are some tutorials on skinning and Manila modding in this forum. I would suggest reading through them!

thanks guys, that's put my mind at rest a bit! Time to get flashing

HTC standard ROM on T-mo TP2 possible?

I just thought about this right now. Can the standard HTC ROM be flashed to the Tmobile TP2? Or would we have to wait for the HSPL? Im pretty sure you can flash other standard ROMs right? [like those in different languages]. So is it possible to flash an HTC ROM to the Tmo version at this point? Maybe this belongs in the ROM development section, sorry if it does, but i think its a general question.
Also, how do you check to see if you have CID unlocked your phone, [using the hardware keys]? i did a search of it, but couldnt find it again.
forgive me if im double posting, i did a search for these questions, but couldnt come up with a definitive answer. Or a clear one, for that matter. So i thought its better to ask yourself.
anyways, thanks for the time and the replies guys.
-josh.

No one? looks like 59 other people are interested.. haha. any answers?

No. I skimmed through your question quickly. I bet it's already been asked like 5 other times.
Right now, the HardSPL for our phone is being developed. Once that's done, we can flash other ROM's. Right now, we're stuck with the T-Mobile ROM. And there's no way to CID unlock yet, either. So, just wait for the HardSPL. That's all we can do. I got a PM going around, I guess they're looking for some native thing...Here's the message...
Don't forget to use the tool provided in this thread! The sooner we find somebody with a Hynix internal memory, the sooner we can have Hard-SPL on our Touch Pro 2's! If you've already done this, please ignore this message.​
Do that if you wanna get the HardSPL going faster. I guess it's just like the lottery, whoever has the lucky device! That's how YOU can contribute to the community. Got it?

You can't because even if it's a stock rom, it's not customized for your device. Even if we ignore slight hardware differences, there's also the case of people with a European unlocked model being unable to install the Asian Rom because it's the "wrong" device.

solsearch said:
You can't because even if it's a stock rom, it's not customized for your device. Even if we ignore slight hardware differences, there's also the case of people with a European unlocked model being unable to install the Asian Rom because it's the "wrong" device.
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You can, it would just have to be modified by the cook, making it a "custom ROM". That will be possible in, I'm guessing, a month, once HardSPL is working on our phones. It'll be way better with custom ROM's, but we gotta just wait.

Oh, I meant you can't right now. Not that it's impossible without the right tools and time enough. But to just download the rom and try to flash it without any extra steps or tricks isn't currently possible.

Hey Guys,
just wanted to tell you, that i am writting this post via my T-mo TP2 which i flashed via Goldcard to original HTC European Firmware.
Everything works perfectly fine!
If byou ned a Goldcard just contact cmonex.
Hopefully helped you
ImmortalShadow

ImmortalShadow said:
Hey Guys,
just wanted to tell you, that i am writting this post via my T-mo TP2 which i flashed via Goldcard to original HTC European Firmware.
Everything works perfectly fine!
If byou ned a Goldcard just contact cmonex.
Hopefully helped you
ImmortalShadow
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Or we can wait for HardSPL, lol. That'll be easier for most, and be less bothersome for the cooks.
But it's good to hear that you got a custom ROM! I hate that T-Mo crap

Yeah, T-mo ROM really sucks...
HTC ROM runs much smoother, consuming less RAM, and allowing me to use icq and skype, which is the biggest plus.
Now my TP2 really is (In my oppinion) the best phone on the market

True, can't wait to flash a chefs rom to get rid of all the bloatware!

[Q] ROM upgrade question??

hello guys
i have the HTC Touch Diamond (p3700) from rogers, and i was wondering since the phone is locked to the rogers network, is it possible for me to install a custom rom on the phone?? or do i have to do the sim unlock to do that??
sorry, this might be a noob question but i need the question answered as i had the O2 Xda Mini S before my HTC which was unlocked and this is the first time i actually purchased a phone from rogers since i get all my phones from out canada
thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it

i have a rogers HTC diamond as well.. and its got the winmob 6.1 5.2.19965 build 1.2.3 Year 2008.. the HTC website doesnt let me download the feb 2009 firmware as the device is not suitable..
a few simple Noob questions please..
1 - its working in my country with other network sims, all of them but the phone strartup says rogers... is my cell unlocked or not?
2 - will Hard Spl remove everytrace of rogers from my phone? (i actually wana debrand it from rogers to plain standard retail version)..
3 - Will any firmare upgrade using hardspl method work on my cell?.. and what will happen to the orignal FW? will it be erased permanently, or will it still be stored in a secret storage, so that it can be retrieved later when i plan to sell it later and rest to factory defaults?
Again, as a newcomer and a noob at the Xda dev scene, i would apreciate any kind of help .
thanks in anticipation..

devillblood said:
hello guys
i have the HTC Touch Diamond (p3700) from rogers, and i was wondering since the phone is locked to the rogers network, is it possible for me to install a custom rom on the phone?? or do i have to do the sim unlock to do that??
sorry, this might be a noob question but i need the question answered as i had the O2 Xda Mini S before my HTC which was unlocked and this is the first time i actually purchased a phone from rogers since i get all my phones from out canada
thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it
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Hi,
As far as I know, you should be able to install any ROM you want.
But make sure you have flashed Hard-SPL Olinex Unsigned,
just try the link in my sig and follow steps 6 - 11.
You still need an unlocker to make it possible using other networks though.
farhan_ds said:
i have a rogers HTC diamond as well.. and its got the winmob 6.1 5.2.19965 build 1.2.3 Year 2008.. the HTC website doesnt let me download the feb 2009 firmware as the device is not suitable..
a few simple Noob questions please..
1 - its working in my country with other network sims, all of them but the phone strartup says rogers... is my cell unlocked or not?
2 - will Hard Spl remove everytrace of rogers from my phone? (i actually wana debrand it from rogers to plain standard retail version)..
3 - Will any firmare upgrade using hardspl method work on my cell?.. and what will happen to the orignal FW? will it be erased permanently, or will it still be stored in a secret storage, so that it can be retrieved later when i plan to sell it later and rest to factory defaults?
Again, as a newcomer and a noob at the Xda dev scene, i would apreciate any kind of help .
thanks in anticipation..
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1. Yes your phone is unlocked, but you are using a rogers customized ROM. Try a different ROM to remove it.
2. No, Hard-SPL will not remove it. You'll need to flash another ROM to do that.
3. Firstly, if you are flashing/upgrading a new firmware (we call it ROM) then all data will permanently removed.
There are some packs to revert your ROM back to stock, but I don't know if there are any Rogers ROM's available on the net.
I hope I have answered all your questions.
Good luck both!

[ElCondor] said:
Hi,
As far as I know, you should be able to install any ROM you want.
But make sure you have flashed Hard-SPL Olinex Unsigned,
just try the link in my sig and follow steps 6 - 11.
You still need an unlocker to make it possible using other networks though.
I hope I have answered all your questions.
Good luck both!
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hey thanks a lot for the reply, finally someone replies, and this method will not brick my phone right?? since that is what scares me the most the fact that i mite end up bricking my phone

Thanks a lot Elcondor.. it solved half of my problems..
the only thing is,, i tried the 6.5 Prototype rom and rogers sill show up on the startup screen.. i flashed the splash screen, and still the lower 100pixels appear pink, out of no where..
and i simply wana DEBRAND the whole **** of rogers from it, so that i can upgrade the 2.0.0.00 rom version to the HTC official 2.0.43 version, but evertime i download from there, and try updating it, it says, Model ID not compatible..
is there a way to remove the entire rogers crap from it, and get it cleaned like a retail version?...
Thanks a lot sir..

devillblood said:
hey thanks a lot for the reply, finally someone replies, and this method will not brick my phone right?? since that is what scares me the most the fact that i mite end up bricking my phone
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No, it shouldn't brick your phone. In fact, Hard-SPL makes your device hardly brickable. Just try it, you will not be dissapointed. But, it's not my responsabillity if you brick you diamond, keep that in mind.
farhan_ds said:
Thanks a lot Elcondor.. it solved half of my problems..
the only thing is,, i tried the 6.5 Prototype rom and rogers sill show up on the startup screen.. i flashed the splash screen, and still the lower 100pixels appear pink, out of no where..
and i simply wana DEBRAND the whole **** of rogers from it, so that i can upgrade the 2.0.0.00 rom version to the HTC official 2.0.43 version, but evertime i download from there, and try updating it, it says, Model ID not compatible..
is there a way to remove the entire rogers crap from it, and get it cleaned like a retail version?...
Thanks a lot sir.
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The splash screen is a harder part to do. You need Patchsplash to patch your splash screen. In that way, the splash screen should appear right. Note that the procedure to do that is pretty hard. Here are some more instructions if you didn't get it.
And about a Diamond stock ROM, take a look here. A 2.03.4 ROM including a new radio and the splash screen.
Good luck guys!

[ElCondor] said:
No, it shouldn't brick your phone. In fact, Hard-SPL makes your device hardly brickable. Just try it, you will not be dissapointed. But, it's not my responsabillity if you brick you diamond, keep that in mind.
Good luck guys!
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thanks a lot man, well i guess if its doesn't brick the phone then my diamond shouldn't brick unless i do something stupid in the middle of the process, and one more question, since there A LOT of roms on this site, anyway suggestion on which one would b above all, in regards to features and most of all, which rom would make my diamonds performance faster then the stock rom
thanks man

devillblood said:
thanks a lot man, well i guess if its doesn't brick the phone then my diamond shouldn't brick unless i do something stupid in the middle of the process, and one more question, since there A LOT of roms on this site, anyway suggestion on which one would b above all, in regards to features and most of all, which rom would make my diamonds performance faster then the stock rom
thanks man
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No prob my friend, xda-devs is to help each other.
To recommend a ROM is pretty hard, since there are very different kind of ROMs available.
Do you want a ROM with full Diamond2 experience, without WM 6.5(.x) try Gen. Y D2 R4.
Or, do you prefer a light WM6.5(.x) ROM, try BSB 6.5.1. It is pretty fast and light.
In a short time, I am going to release a 6.5.1 ROM (called Condor GT), with very nice graphics and still very fast.
Just give some a shot and you'll soon find out which ROM is the best.
BTW All the ROMS given in this thread are better that stock ROMs, just to be clear
Regards,

[ElCondor] said:
No prob my friend, xda-devs is to help each other.
To recommend a ROM is pretty hard, since there are very different kind of ROMs available.
Do you want a ROM with full Diamond2 experience, without WM 6.5(.x) try Gen. Y D2 R4.
Or, do you prefer a light WM6.5(.x) ROM, try BSB 6.5.1. It is pretty fast and light.
In a short time, I am going to release a 6.5.1 ROM (called Condor GT), with very nice graphics and still very fast.
Just give some a shot and you'll soon find out which ROM is the best.
BTW All the ROMS given in this thread are better that stock ROMs, just to be clear
Regards,
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haha yes i know they are all better then the stock roms, but i was wondering if u could guide me, since there are a lot of roms, i am looking for one that has a nice interface, is fast, and wm 6.5 if possible would be awesome
thanks a lot for ur help

Total newcomer wanting to install a new ROM on a straight out of box Orange UK Hero.

Hi guys,
This is my first post so please forgive my ignorance. I have just received a brand new HTC Hero from Orange UK as a replacement for my previous Hero that went faulty.
Anyway, I really want to install the Hero 2.1 ROM. However I have only ever messed around with OS changes when I used to install leaked updates to my BlackBerry.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a comprehensive guide to doing everything I need to do to install Hero 2.1 ROM or explain it to me?
Thank you all for any help that you can offer.

http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/297764/the-how-to-guide/
keep in mind that the 2.1 roms available are not fully functional yet. if you want something stable with everything working as intended go for mcr3.0, but that shouldn't stop you from testing new roms! just a note.

double post

Thanks for the link. I'm a pretty big idiot when it comes to this stuff but I'm always willing to give it a shot.
Is there much difference between MoDaCo 3.0 and the 2.1 ROM? I'm just looking for something that is a bit faster or more up to date than a 1.5 Orange UK OS.

For faster than stock, I would suggest modaco 3.0, since 2.1 will be on the way in the new year, and it isn't quite ready for everyday use yet.
But its up to you. Just don't go installing any rru updates if you want to root or install a custom ROM in future.

check out changelog of each of their final releases..and u'll wats added to them ..and wats still not working

RRU updates?

byakkotai said:
RRU updates?
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if you make that a question you might get an answer.
if you want speed go for modaco. the 2.1 roms tend to lag here and there, and as i said are not suitable for daily use. they work great for an early preview, but that's it.

Ahh OK sorry to keep on asking what are probably inane questions. I'm guessing since nobody has mentioned RRUs with MoCaDo, that they aren't involved.
I'll see how that ROM goes, hoping it uses HTC Sense UI as I really like the look of it but it's not essential.
I think I have to update the Radio for the MoCaDo update.
I'll probably post again if the change doesn't go well or I can't do it LOL
Thanks again guys.

Custom ROM for FlipSide MB508

Hello!
I bought an used FlipSide MB508, and would like to upgrade it in some way, so I wonder if may be some news about a custom rom at this date, since the last messagues are from some time ago.
Also,I wonder if there is so much diference or if may be possible to upgrade the MB508 with a custom rom of the BackFlip since over the net, seems like if they may possible be very similar if not the same internal hardware.
Also, wonder if could be possible to use some utility for get Apps2SD under the 2.1 android and also if may be possible some trick to make available JIT enable in order to try to improve memory use and some speed on the MB508.
Thanks for attention and best regards!

Hey man...I've asked about tying a backflip ROM and the general response is that it wont wokr...I havent tried it but it seems to be general knowledge. charm and FlipOut ROMs will work but there is little development on those as well. As for the other stuff...not sure man

Hello JBallin4life27!
Thanks for take time to reply, ...well, if may be possible that FlipOut ROMs, then may be some hope in the Angel ROM, may You know if in that case the FlipOut ROM could be simple directly installed over a FlipSide or may be required some mod by a developer.
Thanks again and best regards!

Yea i'm hoping the Angel ROM might work. I've checked it out already and so far it isn't functional for the FlipOut or Flipside yet. I did try the soft ROM with no motoblur and it worked but it def needs to be modified a bit to properly work for the Flipside so I'm assuming the Angel ROM would need to be modified as well....but that's just my assumption and in my experiences assuming things doesn't always get you to the truth you seek lol.

JBallin4life27 said:
I did try the soft ROM with no motoblur and it worked but it def needs to be modified a bit to properly work for the Flipside.
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Hello!
Thanks for comment, and about it, I would like to ask if could clarify me about the "it def needs to be modified" (what is def about you refer?) and if You could provide me with a Link about this Soft ROM?
Thank You very much and best regards!

Sorry, def is just short for definitely, like "for sure." And sure...here is the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=791
hope you can figure something out

maybe soon...
Motorola is beta testing a froyo rom finally. Hopefully very soon we can have a froyo image for you wonderful developers!!!