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Should We Install The Zune Software Now?

Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch

deadwrong03 said:
Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch
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the current downloadable vers of zune does not support wp7 however zune client will inform you of the new update with wp7 included.. with that said i would go ahead and install it to add all your music, videos and pics it is truly the best music, video client i have ever seen light years ahead of that lame itunes and it does not recopy your music and use up all of your hd space recopying all your music.

Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.

paperclips said:
Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.
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Agree with you. It can be a replacement of windows media player. of course, I am using it now, even though i did not own zune device. great performance, quick start up than windows media player, nicer, more functionalities and one most important function which is you can set and add your own media folder to the Zune player.
Scenario: if you placed all your music in the desk top "music folder", you can add this directory into zune and zune will recognise them and add them into your music playlist without create a new database like itunes did.
Give it a try...I'm sure you will like it...

i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune

deadwrong03 said:
i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune
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I didn't experienced this scenario before. however, i think it is doesn't matter you use which account, but it's more convenient if you use hotmail....because both are Microsoft products and there should be a mutual link between them and easy for you to remember the password when you use microsoft's products.

just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version

deadwrong03 said:
just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version
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haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...

sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep

I enjoy using the Smart DJ feature in Zune. It is similar to Pandora in some ways. Really looking forward to WP7 I just hope the battery life can handle my music playing.

deadwrong03 said:
LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep
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I was a zuner since 2007 I am happy to say =)
it definitely is 10x better than apple itunes and anything else around at the moment.

sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..

rruffman said:
WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..
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Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.

OP I was thinking the same thing, and I did install Zune.
My thoughts;
It looks cool, the interface is 'fresh' and makes iTunes look dated.
But the biggest problem is that I can't seem to managed the actual files and can't 'show in explorer'. That's a real problem for me as I let itunes organise my music so my file structure is a nightmare to actually edit files outside of using itunes to browse. (any tips)
I also find it quite slow, (1.3ghz 2g RAM), which was disappointing. If I had a better PC it might be better.
I think I may stick to iTunes, its not a big deal to sync as a phone is only going to hold ~10g anyway.

sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.

sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I think you mis understood me it will dl it from the web not your desktop (the zune on you phone that is) using what ever internet connection you are using on you phone at the time.

RustyGrom said:
I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.
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as long as the song have the correct title, album and artist it will get the album art. no zune pass needed. it works just like the desktop vers.

shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?

deadwrong03 said:
shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?
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Seems like a reasonable assumption, but since there won't actually be any phones available until the end of the month we might have to wait for the new ZUNE software until then.

Internet Radio

How do we play internet radio in Zune on WP7?
Thanks

not sure what u mean by "internet Radio". i use last.fm not in zune on wp7, it separate app.
it works fine.

k_aftab said:
i use last.fm not in zune on wp7, it separate app.
it works fine.
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Where the hell is this Last.fm app? I still can't find it on the Marketplace.
Could it be not available in some countries?

Yes, the Last.fm app might be limited to USA only as i DL'ed it and used it here in the States.

Shoutcast?!??! or Windows Media ASX steams??? how do we play these?

I'm trying to play an M3U stream, the only way I can work it is by emailing the URL and then opening it on the phone. It works but its not exactly great, if the signal is lost it doesnt rebuffer, it just plays what it had buffered up until connection lost over and over and over again!

enjoythemusic said:
Yes, the Last.fm app might be limited to USA only as i DL'ed it and used it here in the States.
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Thanks for the reply.
So it also means that all the countries have no access to the same apps.

arturobandini said:
Thanks for the reply.
So it also means that all the countries have no access to the same apps.
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I'm in the UK & downloaded Last fm without any problem. It works great & is integrated into Zune.

weepatc said:
I'm in the UK & downloaded Last fm without any problem. It works great & is integrated into Zune.
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Not in France it seems unfortunately...
I guess you found it here?:
Marketplace/Applications/Music and Videos ?
Thanks

it's available in uk as weepatc said and it works perfectly.
regards

Last.fm doesnt have the radio i want to listen to though!

sigh still no shoutcast

I am hopeful for a way to listen to XM Radio. I have an account and there was a WM app that made this possible. The regular internet on WP doesn't allow me to listen to my online account for some reason. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong. Has anyone got XM to play on their new WP?

eric2k said:
sigh still no shoutcast
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try slacker radio app

Hopefully pocket player (conduits.com) will have WP7 version, but it costs you.

kahibbi said:
I am hopeful for a way to listen to XM Radio. I have an account and there was a WM app that made this possible. The regular internet on WP doesn't allow me to listen to my online account for some reason. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong. Has anyone got XM to play on their new WP?
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I emailed sirius about a wp7 app and they were noncommital about any app forthcoming. Hopefully it will come out soon.

I'm looking for a streaming app that has NPR. I usually listen to it on my morning commute but was using my iPhone for it. Now that I've moved over I don't have something to replace it. I'm hoping someone will come up with something soon as Slacker doesn't load well or load at all sometimes on my phone (htc Surround). There aren't any other apps for listening to NPR / public radio streams unless I over looked it?
iHeartRadio doesn't have the stations and has some audio issues sometimes.

Bumping up an old thread. I've just released a Siriux/XM app for WP7, and its live in the Marketplace now. Its called Sat Rad Player and you can find it at the following link:
http://social.zune.net/External/Lau...oneAppID=ecc794a8-aa58-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
We've set up some forums as well at http://www.satradplayer.com/Forums where people can get support or suggest enhancements to the app to make it better.
Check out the trial version and let me know what you think.

eric2k said:
Shoutcast?!??! or Windows Media ASX steams??? how do we play these?
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Yeah, this is a massive gaping hole in both WP7 and Zune's media playback capabilities. I'm hoping they introduce support in a future verson. I mean, it's not difficult. Sadly, I think the truth is they'd rather you were buying music from the Zune store.
Just one of many examples of the "dumbing down" of technology that seems all the rage these days.

adriankeith said:
I'm looking for a streaming app that has NPR.
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Use TuneIn Radio for WP7... It's a great app
I am in France and listen to NPR everyday, but also WNYC, KCRW, etc....
TuneIn allows you to listen to both Internet Radios and podcasts.

Still No Skydrive Official Music Support?

Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:

Great
You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend

deadwrong03 said:
Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:
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Try Anemoplayer. Its more proof of concept at this point but once the developer implements playlists and background support you'll be streaming on the go

N3croman said:
You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend
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Hey, sound like good idea to me, haha.
Should be able to shut the screen off , and still able to take the picture *sliently* haha.
Alright, back to the main point.
Skydrive allow you to have 2GB Free... would be nice to have music up there but i mean like, is it really necessary? because i never filled my 16GB with Apps and Music.

This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?

vangrieg said:
This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?
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It's free And it allows access to things that aren't on Zune

the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^

PG2G said:
It's free
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But useless.
Erazor84 said:
the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^
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Yeah, that's true. I'm using it here but I agree, it's not easy and most people wouldn't do it.
Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.

vangrieg said:
Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.
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I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.

I have a Windows Home Server at home and that's where I store stuff including music. But I don't stream it from there though. The main problem with streaming is battery drain. It's much more practical to just copy music to the phone. If it had more generous storage I would have to do it just once.

lbp775 said:
I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.
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how does home server work? Does ur computer have to always work? When you stream is the music history saved in the zune player shuffled with what's already on your memory card?
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[Q] iTunes on Galaxy Nexus

In the past I've used iSyncr to handle iTunes transfers over to my Galaxy S2.
Will this app still work with the Nexus?
If not, how are you guys getting your iTunes playlists/music onto the Galaxy Nexus?

I use iSyncr WiFi, works fine
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My Sync is said to work well too. Though I have not personally tried this function on it. I use it for WiFi backup.

I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier

AllGamer said:
I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier
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+1 on that Google Music is what made me pull the trigger on buying a 16gb nexus. I no longer need tons of space on a phone to hold all my music!

I just gave up on iTunes syncing. I hated Doubletwist, so now I just drag and drop. I also spend less time with my music library because of Spotify. Also, check out Salling Media Sync. Its available in the Mac App Store. Its expensive, but I've heard good things about it.

AllGamer said:
I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier
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right here!
And music takes no space on phone.... the best.

AllGamer said:
I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier
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Same. Been using for months. Its awesome.

Can't use Google music in the OK. Very dissapointing!

i use subsonic on my linux server instead

Just to add my tuppence
Being a recent convert to the Android fold (brand new GN - still awaiting update ), and having used iTunes/iPhone for too long, I felt the need to find an app that would let me sync iTunes playlists.
I tried a shed-load of apps; doubletwist was pure crap (IMHO) and not worth the effort, WinAmp might "really whip the llama's ass" but didn't "really know how to sync a playlist" well enough to warrant me keeping it.
I then found iSyncr and the WiFi plugin and these did exactly what they said they would, seamlessly and effortlessly. The free version would only sync 30 tracks per playlist so the paltry price they were asking for it seemed worth it to me.
As for the Google Music point... not available to UK users yet but there is a very simple workaround, just waiting to set this up on my phone.

I second the Subsonic recommendation. It's been around for a while, use it on my phone, browser, wife's iphone.
It does what Google Music does, but you have more control and I believe it does video too. It definitely isn't as easy to setup and use as GM though, so a big caveat there.

iSyncR WiFi sync didn't work for me. I then used DoubleTwist Air Sync to sync. Worked well. The playlists are recognized by PowerAmp, so all is good (as I dislike the DoubleTwist player).

hey, i used iSyncR too, but a lot of songs in the playlists are missing (not only the bought ones) and some pictures are not at the right songs. that really sucks. you may have an alternetive for me? in germany google music is not available now;( besides you always need a good connection for streaming.
thx for answers

[Q]App to play music from/to pc

I have windows 8 and it has nice interface for bluethoth, and option to stream music to phone.
Unlucky for us its for windows phone. Is there any app/software so we can use those features on android?

DjDexter5GHz said:
I have windows 8 and it has nice interface for bluethoth, and option to stream music to phone.
Unlucky for us its for windows phone. Is there any app/software so we can use those features on android?
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Dont you have usb?
Try to enable the mediaserver on your phone. Then open networks on pc.
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Download Bubble UPNP from the Play Store, it works really well , just remember to enable homegroups, and remote play in Windows Media Player, that's it !

Thank you people i will try

I tried this bubble upnp, and i cant connect, maybe because of ****ty connection that i have here, i'll try at home in 7 days, but can you give me some tutorial on this?

DjDexter5GHz said:
I have windows 8 and it has nice interface for bluethoth, and option to stream music to phone.
Unlucky for us its for windows phone. Is there any app/software so we can use those features on android?
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If you have Tk's walkman app, you can use dlna to stream music from phone to windows media player. Have a look here http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...xYHACw&usg=AFQjCNFH62C5C2o2rLmqxnHcqEzQbPz_IA
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