So I just moved to a new apartment and haven't hooked up internet access yet. How realistic would it be for me to avoid getting the usual cable internet setup that people in my area normally get and just use an Evo as the network router for all my devices. My home network includes a few laptops, a desktop, a networked hard drive, and a few old cellphones that I use to connect via wifi to play music and browse internet. Does anyone have real world experience to share about how these types of setups have been working with the Evo's hotspot feature. And is it even possible for me to incorporate my networked hard drive into this kind of network as it is not wifi - only ethernet? How could I get it included? Sorry for such a noob question. I would love to stop giving my money to Time Warner and just have one phone/internet bill to pay.
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cmus
Well that depends so much on the coverage of your area. If you don't get 4g coverage in your apartment you would be using 3g for all of your devices and that isn't going to cut it for most people. I mean it is fine for surfing the web but not for something like streaming or gaming. Plus your 3g signal could be week and you wouldn't get very good speeds period. You can check coverage maps but even then you won't know exactly until you test it out yourself....
Definitely doable if you're not a gamer and assuming your signal is strong. Its the latency that kills it for you if you are a gamer.
One of the bigger Qs I wonder about is how hot will the device get when trying to supply other devices with 3g/4g.
I know my current WiMo will over heat when doing wmTorrents and I have to take the back cover off and sit it in front of my fan on my desk at work.
currently im using Touch Pro, and when i do wifi teathering the phone gets so hot that it shuts off charging after about 60mins, and then runs on battery power for another 20 mins or so... hopefully evo will handle the wifi-teather load better that this.
frifox said:
currently im using Touch Pro, and when i do wifi teathering the phone gets so hot that it shuts off charging after about 60mins, and then runs on battery power for another 20 mins or so... hopefully evo will handle the wifi-teather load better that this.
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Haha I use to turn my touch pro face down and put a glass with ice water on top.
The cool condensation would keep it from overheating and thus ruining my fun.
Ah , the good ol' days. Can anyone tell me why the touch pro could do wifi tethering and not the Evo? Is it android fault or the fault of the phone????
hmm, so this does not sound good. Between possible overheating issues and latency this is not something that most people seem to be excited about doing?
How about the network itself. Does using the Evo as a hotspot allow my laptops to talk to each other via a LAN or does the Evo only share the internet connection with all the connected devices? For example, if I have a hard drive full of music on one computer, can I share that folder and stream it on a second computer if both computers are connected to the Evo?
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Haha I use to turn my touch pro face down and put a glass with ice water on top.
The cool condensation would keep it from overheating and thus ruining my fun.
Ah , the good ol' days. Can anyone tell me why the touch pro could do wifi tethering and not the Evo? Is it android fault or the fault of the phone????
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the evo can do wifi tethering, it's just $30 a month until we get it rooted.
But can he use the phone too?
cmus said:
So I just moved to a new apartment and haven't hooked up internet access yet. How realistic would it be for me to avoid getting the usual cable internet setup that people in my area normally get and just use an Evo as the network router for all my devices. My home network includes a few laptops, a desktop, a networked hard drive, and a few old cellphones that I use to connect via wifi to play music and browse internet. Does anyone have real world experience to share about how these types of setups have been working with the Evo's hotspot feature. And is it even possible for me to incorporate my networked hard drive into this kind of network as it is not wifi - only ethernet? How could I get it included? Sorry for such a noob question. I would love to stop giving my money to Time Warner and just have one phone/internet bill to pay.
Thanks,
cmus
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I'm considering the evo for this very purpose as well, but i am unclear as to whether I would be able to use the phone to make calls at the same time as i am using it as a hotspot. There seems to be a lot of varying opinions on this, does anyone know the real deal?
thanks!
With the over heating issues, again, that why I just pull the battery cover off and sit it on my desk in front of a small 4-5" fan and keep it cool. I have run it for hours that way before as I use wmTorrent.
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I'm considering the evo for this very purpose as well, but i am unclear as to whether I would be able to use the phone to make calls at the same time as i am using it as a hotspot. There seems to be a lot of varying opinions on this, does anyone know the real deal?
thanks!
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as long as you're on a 4G connection it'll work simultaneously. There's a completely separate antenna(e) for 4g, while 3g is on the same antenna as voice calls causing it to drop to 2.5g
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as long as you're on a 4G connection it'll work simultaneously. There's a completely separate antenna(e) for 4g, while 3g is on the same antenna as voice calls causing it to drop to 2.5g
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that was/is my fear.
if i understand your note correctly; if i am on 3g, i will not be able to use voice and data at the same time, thus rendering the hotspot ability much less useful. I was hoping to use this in my car while driving and get rid of my 3g card that i currently use
Is the wifi radio in this phone wireless-N?
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Is the wifi radio in this phone wireless-N?
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No it is not. At least without root it isn't.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/1
Go to step 13 to see what I'm talking about. The chip supposedly is capable of n. Just not right now. Hopefully someone can "unlock" it.
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I have a WIFI router up stairs, and a computer down stairs. I also own a laptop (This Computer). The router was for the laptop, then I brought home this computer from my other house.
I want to be able to connect to my phone to the WIFI router (I have done so) It is a secured network currently. But I also want to be able to connect the phone to my computer, using Internet Sharing, 'surf the web' on my computer via my phone without buying some kind of Data plan since I have WIFI.
Drilling holes through the Hard wood floor for an Ethernet cable are not an option
Note: I have searched the forum for several hours and played with GRSP settings myself with no success.
yeah ive tried looking the same a while back..i dont think anyone has developed this yet
WMWifiRouter can do that...
ive tried that..i think..anyone can verify it?
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WMWifiRouter can do that...
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I thought i just made the device a hot spot? I will try this method and post back my results. I will assume my Laptop will pick it up however.
There is a USB to WIFI mode, but I was unable to get this to work correctly.
You want Wi-Fi to USB mode
Yes, I assumed that much, I did notice both being there but was to lazy to point that out. I got it to work, but it is extremely slow because it has to go through the phone.
My alternative was making an ad hoc connection using a crossover cable, but I do not have a crossover cable and I do not have the tools to make one out of one of my four foot Ethernet cables.
Edit: I am curious. Is there another program or way of network mapping to get the same result, 'Wifi to USB', with out having to use the 'paid for program'.
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It appears WMWIFIRouter has a lock on the market for Smartphone users. There's another free program called ICS Control that can be used on PPCs.
WMWIFIRouter works great but the performance on my HTC Excalibur is terrible. I get about 25% of the bandwidth available to other WIFI enabled devices on the network.
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It appears WMWIFIRouter has a lock on the market for Smartphone users. There's another free program called ICS Control that can be used on PPCs.
WMWIFIRouter works great but the performance on my HTC Excalibur is terrible. I get about 25% of the bandwidth available to other WIFI enabled devices on the network.
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I know this post is 6 months old but I have a question.
I've tethered and internet shared with G1 & s620. I've only ever got 10Mbps vs. 100Mbps-comcast. It's the phone that restricts the speed, not the router or the way you have it hooked up, correct ???
I have used WMwifirouter for wifi on my laptop.
I used it on my vox.
The newest version is pretty good. It comes with a 21day or 30 day full function trial. But then you have to buy it.
4/5!
flyboyovyick2k9 said:
I have used WMwifirouter for wifi on my laptop.
I used it on my vox.
The newest version is pretty good. It comes with a 21day or 30 day full function trial. But then you have to buy it.
4/5!
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What's your Mbps ? If it's not faster then 10Mbps then why pay for it when it can be had for free.
Actually googled it. not real expensive, and probably would buy if it increases speed.
Internet sharing still faster (seems to be) and easier than browsing on the phone. Nice to have when you need/want it.
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What's your Mbps ? If it's not faster then 10Mbps then why pay for it when it can be had for free.
Actually googled it. not real expensive, and probably would buy if it increases speed.
Internet sharing still faster (seems to be) and easier than browsing on the phone. Nice to have when you need/want it.
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10Mbps is general connection speed of ur phone with ur PC through USB. It will never increase
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10Mbps is general connection speed of ur phone with ur PC through USB. It will never increase
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Yeah, kinda figured that out. So the question remains......Why pay for it ?
So now that I finally have my phone completely set up and running fast on RvU, I am running a very fast 4g connection in Chicago area and am tempted to tell RCN to shove it (I pay for their 10mbp service and it blows).
Would it be a bad idea to run the 4g tether ragged as an everyday connection?
You might raise some eyebrows if you're consistently hitting your cap. i think for Sprint it's around 5-6gb/mo.
No cap on 4g, use it to your hearts content my friend, make that 10$ we all pay worth it sir!
While there is no cap, do you ever use your connection at home while you're not home, like for downloading torrents? Something to think about if you do since thats obviously not possible if you take your phone with you.
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I have been downloaded dozens of torrents in the past couple weeks, via 3g as I can't get 4g at home. I have had no problems.
I remember a topic in the Sprint Hero forum about people using it for their home internet connection. Some got as high as 250gb a month without any response from Sprint. At least there wasn't a response at the time.
Even though it's unlimited, they can still say that "unlimited" is "within reason" and give ya the boot!
For normal internet use, I would give it a go.
I don't suggest using torrents, but I don't recommend torrents for any internet connection. Too many virus's and it's too easy to trace back to you. The producer of the movie The Hurt Locker is suing more than 5,000 people who downloaded/upload the movie via torrents. Newsgroups FTW!
can the hardware take it? i mean the EVO is slick and all, but it is not built or sold as a router replacement. there is a difference between "a lot of use" and "24x7" use. i'm thinking heat related issues, little parts and gizmo's, etc.
i'd be very sad to see my EVO give off a puff of smoke just after i lob a grenade or engage in some 25man raid. and i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be considered a warranty-able issue.
I don't see why it wouldn't be covered under the warranty, since the phone WAS designed for it! Don't forget, for $30 a month you can turn it into a WiFi router just like you can do when you root it!
So I doubt it's going to overheat, and if it does, it'll shut down before it becomes too hot.
Using it as a router though will definitely eat the battery, so best used plugged in.
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You might raise some eyebrows if you're consistently hitting your cap. i think for Sprint it's around 5-6gb/mo.
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I have been downloaded dozens of torrents in the past couple weeks, via 3g as I can't get 4g at home. I have had no problems.
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I meant, when you leave....you kinda take your phone and your connection with you so you can't just leave it at home to download torrents
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I meant, when you leave....you kinda take your phone and your connection with you so you can't just leave it at home to download torrents
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Sometimes I leave it at home when my girl is home so she has internet. I leave it on overnight for 10 hours each day.
BUMP*** I'd like to hear more about this anyone get the boot for too much data??
Hello all,
I currently am running Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 (but tried Fresh 3.5.0.1 as well) and am having problems with very slow wireless tethering on 4G. If I run a speed test on my tethered laptop, I will be lucky to hit 1Mbps. However, on the phone (even if tethering is turned on) a speed test will yield about 5-6Mbps. For some reason it's as if the tethering speed is being throttled down to 3G speeds even though I'm connected to 4G.
I've tried various versions of the Wireless Tether app, and even the "fix" (deleted the fixroute.sh file) and still no luck. Other people are also reporting this problem here - EVO slow tether - Android Forums
I was just hoping perhaps someone could shed some light on this issue.
Thanks.
link00seven said:
Hello all,
I currently am running Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 (but tried Fresh 3.5.0.1 as well) and am having problems with very slow wireless tethering on 4G. If I run a speed test on my tethered laptop, I will be lucky to hit 1Mbps. However, on the phone (even if tethering is turned on) a speed test will yield about 5-6Mbps. For some reason it's as if the tethering speed is being throttled down to 3G speeds even though I'm connected to 4G.
I've tried various versions of the Wireless Tether app, and even the "fix" (deleted the fixroute.sh file) and still no luck. Other people are also reporting this problem here - EVO slow tether - Android Forums
I was just hoping perhaps someone could shed some light on this issue.
Thanks.
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Before today, I was one of those people who used the Wireless Tether app often. I had awful DSL internet service and tethering wireless via 4G was a GODsend. The speeds I were getting was comparable to typical 4G speeds. I posted a speedtest a while back in the Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5 thread, if I'm not mistaken. I may try searching for it a little later. Anyway, I cannot explain why you're tethering very slowly. That has never been my experience. Without offending you, are you basing those slow speeds ONLY on speedtest results? If so, please keep in mind that those tests are, in my opinion, inconclusive. Are the tethering speeds you're experiencing satisfying to your real life surfing needs? If they are, disregard speedtest results and enjoy the fact that you can tether multiple devices for FREE.
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Before today, I was one of those people who used the Wireless Tether app often. I had awful DSL internet service and tethering wireless via 4G was a GODsend. The speeds I were getting was comparable to typical 4G speeds. I posted a speedtest a while back in the Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5 thread, if I'm not mistaken. I may try searching for it a little later. Anyway, I cannot explain why you're tethering very slowly. That has never been my experience. Without offending you, are you basing those slow speeds ONLY on speedtest results? If so, please keep in mind that those tests are, in my opinion, inconclusive. Are the tethering speeds you're experiencing satisfying to your real life surfing needs? If they are, disregard speedtest results and enjoy the fact that you can tether multiple devices for FREE.
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None taken mate - to be honest I probably haven't really used it enough just yet to say one way or another. In Metro Detroit, one of the first 4G towers just went online at Wayne State University, where I happen to go to school. So the last couple days I've been using it and today tried tethering to my laptop for the first time. I did use a couple different speed test applications, and found that on the phone I could consistently get 4-6Mbps, whereas on my computer the speed test was averaging closer to 1Mbps. Significantly slower, so I did a little research on it and found that others were also having the same issue (hence the thread I linked in my first post). I'd test it more, but at home I don't have 4G access, just at school.
However, the little bit of basic surfing that I did seemed fine, and perhaps even if for whatever reason I'm not getting the speeds advertised, it still was very much usable. I did not mean to sound ungrateful by any means and am just thrilled to see a sign of 4G around here. Tethering isn't even something I would probably be doing all that often, as WSU has wifi everywhere, and my internet at home is quite solid.
I only posted to see if anyone on here had similar issues and if there was a solution, and to perhaps help others that may also be having issues with 4G wireless tethering.
For some reaason I never liked wireless and have been using usb. I might have an issue with my laptp but can not be sure. I like CM7 GB it seems to switch between 3G and 4G where the other roms did not, Do any of the thether aps 2 google code work any differently?
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None taken mate - to be honest I probably haven't really used it enough just yet to say one way or another. In Metro Detroit, one of the first 4G towers just went online at Wayne State University, where I happen to go to school. So the last couple days I've been using it and today tried tethering to my laptop for the first time. I did use a couple different speed test applications, and found that on the phone I could consistently get 4-6Mbps, whereas on my computer the speed test was averaging closer to 1Mbps. Significantly slower, so I did a little research on it and found that others were also having the same issue (hence the thread I linked in my first post). I'd test it more, but at home I don't have 4G access, just at school.
However, the little bit of basic surfing that I did seemed fine, and perhaps even if for whatever reason I'm not getting the speeds advertised, it still was very much usable. I did not mean to sound ungrateful by any means and am just thrilled to see a sign of 4G around here. Tethering isn't even something I would probably be doing all that often, as WSU has wifi everywhere, and my internet at home is quite solid.
I only posted to see if anyone on here had similar issues and if there was a solution, and to perhaps help others that may also be having issues with 4G wireless tethering.
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I completely understand and thank you for the reply, sir......Enjoy your day.
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For some reaason I never liked wireless and have been using usb.
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I understand and if tethering via USB is more comfortable for you than tethering wirelessly, so be it. It's your prerogative.
I might have an issue with my laptp but can not be sure. I like CM7 GB it seems to switch between 3G and 4G where the other roms did not, Do any of the thether aps 2 google code work any differently?
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Every rom that I've used that allows me to use the 4G function have all automatically switched back & forth between 3G & 4G depending on the strength of the 4G signal or your location in regard to a 4G area. That is normal and the app is irrelevant. I hope I didn't misunderstand your post....
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I completely understand and thank you for the reply, sir......Enjoy your day.
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Thanks, you too.
I haven't tried USB tethering with 4G yet, but one of the main draws for wireless tethering for me would be so I could use it on my iPad, as I only have the wifi iPad.
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Thanks, you too.
I haven't tried USB tethering with 4G yet, but one of the main draws for wireless tethering for me would be so I could use it on my iPad, as I only have the wifi iPad.
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It will indeed work, my friend. I've tether my MacBook and y daughter's iPhone4 in addition to the other wireless device in the house and they all performed without a hitch. Now that I have my Roadrunner service, I doubt I'll use it as much....Take care and enjoy your day...
I have not seen this for the Incredible II yet. I tried running my PS3 through the wifi connection on the droid and the PS3 keeps signing me out. The PS3 seems to connect to the Incredible II ok and lets me get to a certain point, then all of a sudden the PS3 says that I have been signed out. I can sign back in but in a minute or so I am signed out again. I am not sure what is going on.
Any help would be appreciated.
gaming connections require alot of bandwidth that a 3G tether may not be able to give you. It may just be your PS3 signing you out because theres either not enough Bandwidth or you were pinging too high. this prevents people from lagging all over the place or dropping out mid-game because of an unreliable connection. the 3G hotspot is really more of a "oh crap, i have to download that presentation before the meeting" kinda thing. my only advice to you is to either step up to a 4G LTE hotspot or a wifi router connected to a solid land-line.
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That is what I was afraid of. I wanted to set up the PS3 in my car for my kid for a long drive. I can't afford the 4G hotspot right now. Thanks for the information though.
Gary
Hotbot hack turn your screentimeout to never works for me sometimes I sighn out but it's a data freeze that Verizon needs to fix let me know if you find out how to get pass freezes call Verizon
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That is what I was afraid of. I wanted to set up the PS3 in my car for my kid for a long drive. I can't afford the 4G hotspot right now. Thanks for the information though.
Gary
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wow, kudos for the effort to keep the kid happy, my parents would tell me to get a straw and suck it up!
you may just have to tell your kid to live with a good long single-player game until he gets to where he's going. online-gaming while on-the-move isnt really a feasible concept at this time... atleast not for cheap
Aug 1st Time Warner cable was installed next door, my 4G blew and I got a new phone. Now my speed is only about 1Mb and looks as if the phone is not stable or the speed tests are having a difficult time getting data. I took my phone down the street a less than a block where I could achieve 6 to 10Mb possibly even more.
I think it is TWC but it could be an Edison smart meter or other.
Is there a noise app that could help me pinpoint the noise source?
Should I call Sprint?
Any good ideas on how to handle this issue?
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That's something I would like to know as well, I have a train yard next to my house and can't get 4g anywhere near it but it works a few blocks away.
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I can say that there are 10 warehouse/offices which all have smart meters in the rear. To the best of my knowledge these meters are transmitting a whopping 5W @ 900MHZ 24x7
Is 13MB a realistic number or is noise making 4G look hotter than it really is? Any othe experiences or ideas.
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This is getting really weird. On the roof I I get 1O-13Mb with speedtest.net. As soon as I start tethering to a laptop I only get a really crappy/unstable 1MB (starts high but does not hold) and get an abnormally high upload of 1.5+MB via DSLR flash speed test.
If I tether from inside on the front of the building near the roof I get 2.5-3Mb. This number is pretty consistent with the speedtest.net results on the phone.
I can say that there are 10 warehouse/offices which all have smart meters in the rear. To the best of my knowledge these meters are transmitting a whopping 5W @ 900MHZ 24x7
Do these meters mess up 4G a tether ing computer or? Is 13MB a realistic number or is noise making 4G look hotter than it really is? Any othe experiences or ideas. I have been trying to keep with usb tether in an attempt to lower noise.
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I remember reading just a few days ago that someone was having a similar issue when they started to tether. They fixed the speed issue buy setting up a proxy on the PC and they got their full 4G speeds while tethering. It was 4G over WIFI when they had the issue but maybe the same steps will help you out as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966418
Also, I use to work for TWCable. If the tech did a crappy job of the install and did not put fittings on the cables properly and used wrong equipment those cable lines can leak quite a bit of signal. They have techs that drive around once a month with a special detector and GPS to pick up where they have leaks in the aera and then report them to their supervisors, then they end up heading out to fix them if they are bad enough. That stuff can interfere with the bands that emergency vehicles/planes/phones use and they have to legally keep that stuff under control. So you could call TWCable and let them know they need to come out and check for signal leaks.
Video is a nosy ***** but I can not be 100% sure if it is the video, smart meter or other. I can say that I started having proplems on Aug 1 the day that TWC was installed next door. The thing about TWC is it is somewhat shielded even when leaking and a smart meter is not. I am tempted to put a 75 ohm terminator on the cable to see if that helps.
I have been tethering for over a year w/o problems w/o proxy. I could be wrong, but feel that the proxy simply helps hold an internet connection when you have a weak single and changing IP addresses. I thought I solved any need for that by placing my phone way above the building. That is also a really old thread with people on sense roms and CM7 is typically quite solid.
Thanks for the good information. Do we know what frequency TWC operates on?
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Video is a nosy ***** but I can not be 100% sure if it is the video, smart meter or other. I can say that I started having proplems on Aug 1 the day that TWC was installed next door. The thing about TWC is it is somewhat shielded even when leaking and a smart meter is not. I am tempted to put a 75 ohm terminator on the cable to see if that helps.
I have been tethering for over a year w/o problems w/o proxy. I could be wrong, but feel that the proxy simply helps hold an internet connection when you have a weak single and changing IP addresses. I thought I solved any need for that by placing my phone way above the building. That is also a really old thread with people on sense roms and CM7 is typically quite solid.
Thanks for the good information. Do we know what frequency TWC operates on?
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Its alot. every channel is a 6MHz increase. So say channel 32 is 20MHz then channel 33 is at 26MHz. Its been a few years since I worked for them. I dont really remember what frequency they run on. I know some are in the 10's other in the 100's. I just tried Googling it, but couldn't find a current list.
Honestly I would just give them a call and let them know ever since they came out that you have been having issues. They'll send a tech out to take a look.