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I have the CDMA Desire. I am running Cyanogen 7 Nightly.
Even on older Cyanogen ROMS (6.1.1) I always had the issue of Android OS taking up my battery. I looked at my phone when i woke up to see it was at 11% even though it was idle all night AND fully charged when i went to sleep. Don't know the problem. Perhaps somebody could point me to a battery efficient kernel? Or help me solve the issue
If you barley use the phone it's logic that the android os will take most of the battery. Do you use taskkillers? If yes, don't.
And about your drain, do you have the wifi sleep policy set to never?
settings-wireless and network-wifi settings-hit menu-advanced-wifi sleep
Task killers? No, they are really more of a myth than anything!
Wifi Sleep Policy is set to when screen turns off.
I also forgot to mention in the first post that it took up 77% of the phone's battery.
I hate to bump, but bump.
I switched launchers to see if that would help, i'll update when i find out
Maybe this?
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
Also, check for programs in the background which are using a lot of CPU (like OS Monitor from the market).
Make sure you wifi sleep policy is set to NEVER! (Under settings > Wireless & Networks > WiFI settings > Advanced
Faulty battery?
one thing i noticed with my own battery drain is that i had my tweetdeck updating every 15mins, prehaps you have things that are sync all the time?
also i saw in a post somewhere in XDA that it is just how the batteries work, the lower battery charge you have the faster it will run out.
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I also forgot to mention in the first post that it took up 77% of the phone's battery.
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Widgets? System info widget literally wasted my battery even when not used. Removed and happy about it. Shame you don't get a refund
Check your widgets in the market if there are users complaining about them.
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If you barley use the phone it's logic that the android os will take most of the battery.
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Cell standby will _always_ use more if the OS is operating normally.
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I try to keep my phone from using too much stuff in the background. I have Pulse, Twitter and Google Maps (can't stop it) in the background at all times and can get 2 days usage out of it. Widgets and apps running in the background usually are the culprit but if you haven't got a lot of stuff running in the background then I would say faulty battery.
Background:
Got an incredible last august, rooted, tried many roms, loved CM. CM gave me the best battery life and the most functionality. Three weeks ago I crushed my incredible in a bike accident. I was fine, incredible and other items in pannier were not. Long story short, got a new incredible through insurance, rooted, jumped to CM 7 and was immediately confronted with what I would describe as unusable battery life. I wake at 5:30am having charged overnight. Battery reads 100%. By 9:30am I am already below 30% with light usuage. Let me describe light usage. Read an email or two when i wake up, send a few text messages, check the time every 45 mins to an hour.
kernal: incredikernal (smartass governor with multiple profiles)
display settings: carbon copy of those in a discussion on CM7 Automatic Backlight Settings
I have made two changes with this new phone:
(1) I am using both the gmail app and the built in email app to sync an exchange account as well instead of just gmail
(2) I installed google music app and have been uploading my music from my computer for approx 6 days now
The (2) was my first guess as to what is draining my battery but when I view battery use I see display trumps everything (usually around 65%).
I have been trying really hard to figure this out via google but searching has led me to something of an impasse. Most info points to display but I am hesitant to believe that my display settings are incorrect due to the number of users who claim these to work well.
Any help/ideas/advice is appreciated!
I am on my second dinc also. Luckily I haven't had any issues like this.
Suggestions :
1) cm has a builtin set cpu. Just pick a gov and min/max. Let the kernel do its thing.
2) chads beta11 kernel is the best I've tried. It has an Ingenious gov that works great.
3) vipermod. It's a zip that you flash in recovery. Use terminal emulator to lower voltage.
4) battery calibration app. It's free in the market.
Chads kernel and the vipermod are both found here on xda.
Good luck
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I will give these a try. I am pretty sure i have already given the battery calibration a go but manually instead of through an app. I assume the app is just doing rm /data/systems/batterystats.bin? I was running both setCpu under CM7 so i got rid of that am letting the kernal do its thing with min 128 max 844 and smartass gov. I am going to experiment with vipermod when i get out of work as I have not read much documentation on it and would like to read before flash stuff that messes with voltage. Thanks for the advice, i will let you know how it goes.
No problem. The vipermod thing you open in terminal. It's very cool and easy. Adjustable voltage on the fly. I'm undervolted -100 on chads beta 11 cm7 99 nightly. 8hrs of hard use. Smooth as butter. Can't remember exactly what the battery calibration wipes. It tells you in the app.
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Wanted to bump this to see if any fellow forum members have noticed increased battery drain after installing the Google music beta app? I'm having a hard time figuring out what's going on, I've tried different radios, kernels, etc, but to no avail. Haven't tried uninstalling the app yet (but I don't really want to, its pretty convenient). When I look at what is using the battery in the settings menu, I've noticed the music app is never displayed (same thing with Netflix) but it seems to be using a decent chunk of memory.
Wondering if this is the root of my battery problems, it does seem to have gotten worse ever since I got the music beta invite..
Noticing battery drain also. Ill monitor it and get back to you. (Nexus S).
to k_nivesout: i have been narrowing down the list of possible culprits since first posting this. In my case it seems to be either music beta by google, cell standby or a partial wakelock caused by maps. I turned off my location which caused a drastic increase in the battery life but still did not give me the life I had with my last incredible. Cell standby was showing significant battery use most likely do to my lack of signal in my office where i work this summer. On the weekends I notice slightly better battery life in my house where i have full reception. This being said, music beta by google is the only thing that has actually changed since my last incredible. I am contemplating uninstalling it....
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Wanted to bump this to see if any fellow forum members have noticed increased battery drain after installing the Google music beta app? I'm having a hard time figuring out what's going on, I've tried different radios, kernels, etc, but to no avail. Haven't tried uninstalling the app yet (but I don't really want to, its pretty convenient). When I look at what is using the battery in the settings menu, I've noticed the music app is never displayed (same thing with Netflix) but it seems to be using a decent chunk of memory.
Wondering if this is the root of my battery problems, it does seem to have gotten worse ever since I got the music beta invite..
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That's a good observation! Well my phone is at 99% battery now, and I just uninstalled Music Beta. Will see if my battery life increased, because I too have seen an decrease in battery as of late.
Thanks for the replies everyone, I'm definitely curious to see if music beta is indeed what's causing the battery drain. I might have to uninstall it for a day or two and see if things improve. I'm assuming it would be easy to redownload and sync everything, I'd be interested in your guys' experience.
same terrible battery life on my D1 after installing the google music app....my library is also still uploading from my home computer, not sure if that makes a difference or not. one difference, however, is that in my battery stats, google music was at the top of the list. not sure why its not showing for you guys, but i uninstalled and everything seems back to normal now.
i will try re-installing it once my library uploads completely and see if that makes the difference....hopefully so!
Unfortunately I didn't really notice things get better even after my library was uploaded. Good info though, were you looking at battery usage from the settings menu?
With google music you could turn off auto sync. Especially when you are uploading from your computer.
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Here are my tweaks. Right now I'm at 7 Hours 46 Minutes with 66% Battery life. Couple hours of listening and downloading podcasts/audiobooks/music, some web browsing, app downloading and uninstalling.
Turn off Google Music Auto Sync
Turn off Google Book Sync
Check Weather Apps, stop any auto sync or location tracking
Turn softkey light off whenever possible (CM7 settings)
Screen time out 30 seconds (15 would be even better)
Juice Defender Ultimate (Controls Data/Syncing, huge difference for me)
No DSP Manager Tweaks
Remove any excess apps/ games
Ad Free Android (blocks ad downloads)
Incredikernal, ondemand governor
Turn off Bluetooth
Turn off GPS
I just got this phone a few days ago, and my battery life went from 60 to 30 in 20minutes while it was syncing for the first time. Its working much better now! I even considered extended batteries, but I don't think I'll need them anymore.
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cruud said:
Turn off Google Music Auto Sync
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I have the Vibrant and am seeing massive battery drain all of a sudden. I too have recently installed Google Music. Music upload from my PC is finished. Hasn't made any difference to the battery. I don't see any option to turn off Auto Sync in the Android app and in the settings. Where is this option?
Accounts and sync>Google account
Music sync will be in there.
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Accounts and sync>Google account
Music sync will be in there.
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Oh! It was in the google account! I thought that was just for gmail and didn't look there. But it makes sense. Thanks!
Strangely, I don't see any battery drain today. I haven't been using my phone. I just wanted to monitor it (using Android Assistant) to see what app was using the most battery. Yesterday, without any use, the battery completely ran down. Today, it's down 13% since morning. And I have been gradually adding background processing, GPS etc.
This thread that I've revamped from my Evo 4G/3D days, hoping to share some of the love with newer users. Over the time I've been on android, I've learned a few simple things that can greatly assist in the battery life of our wonderful smartphones.
If you get anything out of the thread, please don't hesitate to rate it and drop me a thanks!
If you read the thread and like the tips, have a new one to suggest, or have a revision, please post it.
On a similar note, moderators, thanks for the sticky!
General Lithium Ion Battery Information
^^This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for Non-Rooted users
1. Turn off all radios when not in use.
(Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4G/Wimax/LTE, NFC, etc) Use a widget like the default power widgets, Switchpro, or a similar app from the market. Newer android versions generally allows users to access these radios and other settings from the notification pulldown menu, , under the "Quick Settings" tab or a row at the top of the pulldown. The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions. A radio searching for signal (if you are in a low-signal area) drains more than a radio with good signal, so again, turn 'em off when you aren't using 'em.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to menu>settings>wireless & networks.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can.
Unlike the others, GPS radios only draw power when you actually need them, so you can leave it on all the time.
2. Juice Defender is one of my favorite apps. Basically it controls your data for you to maximize life.
More explanations are on their page, search it on the market for free, or upgrade for more features.
Here are my settings for it: Click me
Note that for me at least, juice defender likes to deny apps data privileges whether you allow them or not, so screen on = data on works best for me.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Sadly, the "always on mobile data" setting is gone. This tip is invalid.
Go to menu>settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks>disable always on mobile data.
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To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
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5. Set your screen timeout to something that fits you.
The screen is the highest drain of battery power on any smartphone. BY setting the timeout, you can prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
Menu>Settings>Display>Screen Timeout
I use 30 seconds.
6. Task killers used to be the shiz, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
7. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to Menu>Settings>About Phone>Battery>click on the small battery graphical, you can compare the two lines, time on and awake. Generally, up time refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these numbers, and they are the same, or if you note the difference, turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same, then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
I recommend two apps to help monitor:System Panel and Better Battery Stats. These two apps (explained in their FAQ's and descriptions greatly aid in finding those rogues.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rogue" and is keeping your phone awake.
-This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 5 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
8. Apps and Combinations to watch out for!
-Facebook- Tries to sync live feed all the time, HIGHLY recommend unchecking this box, as it creates a massive draw on data
-Skype- This app reportedly (I've seen it myself) likes to sync random data and open up the network for fun. Sign out of app when not in use to fix
A rogue process called "gsiff_daemon", associated with the gyroscope. Changing its name seems to be the only semi-permanent solution. It's located in system/bin.
Lightflow is a pretty damn cool notification/led manager, but it eats up ridiculous system resources using its alarm wakeups. Use at your own risk.
9. Manage your syncing.
This is a big one, and it differs from person to person. Go to Menu>Settings>Accounts and Sync, and take a look at what's going on there. The green or checked or activated box to the right of the option means that there is an account syncing data. I for example have four email addresses, facebook, dropbox, box, weather, etc. That is bad. You should go through and turn off syncing for nasty apps you didn't even know where accessing the internet, or limit the access of apps and services that you do want to allow.
The problem lies in the way this syncing is handled. Each app/service runs on its own schedule, making it particularly likely that your phone could almost always be establishing a data connection and trying to download data for your various apps. See step 2 regarding the app Juice Defender to handle this problem.
10. Vibrate Settings
Vibration and haptic feedback eat up a surprising amount of battery. If you have the haptic feedback enabled, then every time you press anything your phone puts out some juice to make itself dance.
At least on the GSIII, the settings are in menu>settings>sound
Some apps have their own haptic feedback settings, and notifications are their own set entirely.
Root Tips LIVE
Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the Galaxy S III Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use SetCPU in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.setcpu.com/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
-Here are my SetCPU profiles: 1 , 2 , 3
-My profiles change a lot as time goes by, because different kernel creators recommend different settings. I suggest reading up on whatever kernel you are using to gather settings.
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*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___--- When it comes to actually "calibrating" one's battery, there are a couple of methods floating around. The method I first learned is to charge the phone all the way, boot into recovery immediately, and "wipe battery stats". Then reboot quickly, and run your phone all the way to death without charging it, then charge it all the way without interrupting it, and you should be good to go. Do this when changing ROMs/kernels for best results.
----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the Evo battery is the Evo battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 0-2 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 2-5 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, 3D pics or video, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
*I’m sure everyone doesn’t agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
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I'm not quite sure if leaving the GPS on actually eats up battery now. I've seen articles now that state that GPS is only used if a program needs it. When I go into battery and usage, GPS will only show it has been used only a couple times with the apps that I opened such as Facebook, Speed Test or Gas Buddy. I think with ICS, it has changed in the way that GPS actually works and it is not actually constantly using battery.
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I'm not quite sure if leaving the GPS on actually eats up battery now. I've seen articles now that state that GPS is only used if a program needs it. When I go into battery and usage, GPS will only show it has been used only a couple times with the apps that I opened such as Facebook, Speed Test or Gas Buddy. I think with ICS, it has changed in the way that GPS actually works and it is not actually constantly using battery.
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This is correct and I have confirmed it. Just haven't updated the op.
Thanks for calling that to my attention.
The one about turning radios off is one that makes all the sense in the world, but I'm not sure in practice if it makes a significant enough difference to override the inconvenience of having to flip things on and off as needed.
I can only speak from personal experience but for about two weeks my wife and I, both with S3's, were shutting radios off when not needed out of habit from our Epic days. However, since then (well over a month now) we just leave everything on all the time... and I do mean *everything*: GPS, Wi-Fi, NFC, cell radio, BT... and the difference has been... wait for it... so little it's actually been hard to quantify!
My own take on that rule is to leave everything on and see what you see... it's always easy enough to turn things off if you find your battery life not living up to expectations and if it winds up being a trend, so be it, leave things off as suggested in the OP. For my wife and I at least we can get through an average day and finish up before going to bed around 30%-40% battery most days. To me, even if I could get that to 40%-50% left, that 10% difference I can accept for never having to worry about what's on or off.
Laziness has a price, and it's around 10% of my battery life apparently
great tips!!!! definitely improved my battery with these!
The radios are extremely dependent upon your area, signal strength, the walls of your house, the apps you have installed that actually call upon the data... So ideally, if your area has amazing signal, your walls are hyper radio permeable, and you don't have many data intensive apps, then you can probably get by with minimal loss. People who are feeling the itch to test should certainly go ahead and try, but the same could be said with most of these tips. This is simply a guide of suggestions. YMMV
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The one about turning radios off is one that makes all the sense in the world, but I'm not sure in practice if it makes a significant enough difference to override the inconvenience of having to flip things on and off as needed.
I can only speak from personal experience but for about two weeks my wife and I, both with S3's, were shutting radios off when not needed out of habit from our Epic days. However, since then (well over a month now) we just leave everything on all the time... and I do mean *everything*: GPS, Wi-Fi, NFC, cell radio, BT... and the difference has been... wait for it... so little it's actually been hard to quantify!
My own take on that rule is to leave everything on and see what you see... it's always easy enough to turn things off if you find your battery life not living up to expectations and if it winds up being a trend, so be it, leave things off as suggested in the OP. For my wife and I at least we can get through an average day and finish up before going to bed around 30%-40% battery most days. To me, even if I could get that to 40%-50% left, that 10% difference I can accept for never having to worry about what's on or off.
Laziness has a price, and it's around 10% of my battery life apparently
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Gps Radio?
Really? The radio, even if left on, uses power only when an app needs the position. I am kinda boggled by this? Wouldn't it take longer to aquire the location from the 3-7 sateilites upon the request and then shut back down. What would be the diference? This can't be true about the GPS not sucking any power in ICS when idle.
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Really? The radio, even if left on, uses power only when an app needs the position. I am kinda boggled by this? Wouldn't it take longer to aquire the location from the 3-7 sateilites upon the request and then shut back down. What would be the diference? This can't be true about the GPS not sucking any power in ICS when idle.
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Try leaving it on for the day and go into battery and click on the graph. You will see that it should be black across the board for GPS if the signal was not used. Only time it would be green is when a program utilized it.
ICS changed the Battery Stats. It doesn't display that information in About Device. Uptime is there but awake time isn't.
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ICS changed the Battery Stats. It doesn't display that information in About Device. Uptime is there but awake time isn't.
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Actually, that's incorrect. Menu>Settings>Battery>click on the small graph picture. It gives you many things, including time on battery, Awake time, Screen on time, and charging time. It's just graphically represented.
How do you accomplish #4?
Go to menu>settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks>disable always on mobile data.
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found it under Data Usage
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well, when I turned Mobile Data Off, didn't receive any data (emails, etc.) so I turned it back on
I'm curiouis about this 1 as well. How do we accomplish this as I don't see that option?
Remove that "wipe battery stats" from your tips. its a old myth that needs to die permanently.
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Remove that "wipe battery stats" from your tips. its a old myth that needs to die permanently.
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You are correct.
www.landofdroid.acom/2012/to-wipe-battery-stats-or-not-to-in-androidthat-is-the-question/
I disable everything when I go to sleep at night, or when I am putting my phone on charge in middle of the day to maybe help it gain battery while not draining it, sort of like a power charge I like to think. It's so easy to do, just slide down status bar, uncheck everything (WiFi, Mobile Data, Sync, dim screen all the way) and that's it. I had 22h1m running since last charge today when I was at 4%.
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Thank you for sharing this is to improve life of the battery
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shuiguo said:
Thank you for sharing this is to improve life of the battery
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It helps to use the right ROM and know how to work your phone:
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Also, apparently Google apps backup is broken for some users. I had a problem with the phone not sleeping and traced it to google backup, apparently it's a common problem with ICS. This is unrelated to contacts/calendar sync. If you have the phone device rooted and use titanium you can leave this off, and as long as you don't lose your phone it's no big deal. Setting is under system settings -> backup and reset.
Figure I would show this off here, had the flu last week and was basically comatose for 30 hours. Only about 2 hrs screen on time, but all radios on and even passed out with navigation on after checking traffic at one point. 51 hours
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I would try disabling Google backup so it no longer updated/synced my info to the web until I next turned it on, but the option says it deletes all the info already stored on the web. I suppose this is good if someone wanted to delete this info for privacy concerns, but there should be an option to just turn the syncing off, or to schedule it for once a day or something.
I have not tried disabling it as I do not want to wipe my info.
Scenario:
Yes, yes, I know. Battery life issues. This is a common problem, noticeably on the Samsung Galaxy S3. However, I've taken a look at MANY MANY threads concerning this common and irritating issue. I always ensure that my data is off, wifi is off, airplane mode is enabled, power saving mode is on, sync is off, brightness is at low, etc. I've even gone to the running services section and manually stopped unnecessary processes. However, my battery life is still terrible. I've tried different roms, different kernels, and eventually found myself back at the stock rom and kernel (best stability). I've debloated my device. I even downloaded a bunch of useless battery saving apps that don't do much apart from the obvious. Is there anything I can do? I will be putting up screenshots of my battery stats.
Usage;
I am a typical user when it comes to smartphones. I browse through xda forums, watch some youtube videos, browse the internet, play a few games, and soon enough the battery begins to plummet. I've noticed at times that the phone gets hot. I have a general knowledge of the things that drain my battery the most. After looking at the battery stats section that comes with phone, it says that Android system, media, and screen use the most battery. Whats the point of having a smartphone if you have to tweak almost everything just to allow your phone to last one day?
I am thinking that there are certain background processes that are dramatically draining my battery. I don't have many apps installed, because I am always flashing roms. I've wiped media storage data, by the way. Some apps that I have installed are the xda developers app, dolphin browser, rescan media root, root browser, rom manager, DS Battery Saver, and lux dash.
Extra: I've debloated (still some left over garbage stock apps leftover but not much, and does it actually help?), I've installed lux lite and lowered my brightness to the point where you can barely see the screen, and I've also downloaded rescan media root and disabled media scan (I heard it has some effect).
If you have any suggestions, please post them. Thanks for reading my thread.
dannytron said:
Scenario:
Yes, yes, I know. Battery life issues. This is a common problem, noticeably on the Samsung Galaxy S3. However, I've taken a look at MANY MANY threads concerning this common and irritating issue. I always ensure that my data is off, wifi is off, airplane mode is enabled, power saving mode is on, sync is off, brightness is at low, etc. I've even gone to the running services section and manually stopped unnecessary processes. However, my battery life is still terrible. I've tried different roms, different kernels, and eventually found myself back at the stock rom and kernel (best stability). I've debloated my device. I even downloaded a bunch of useless battery saving apps that don't do much apart from the obvious. Is there anything I can do? I will be putting up screenshots of my battery stats.
Usage;
I am a typical user when it comes to smartphones. I browse through xda forums, watch some youtube videos, browse the internet, play a few games, and soon enough the battery begins to plummet. I've noticed at times that the phone gets hot. I have a general knowledge of the things that drain my battery the most. After looking at the battery stats section that comes with phone, it says that Android system, media, and screen use the most battery. Whats the point of having a smartphone if you have to tweak almost everything just to allow your phone to last one day?
I am thinking that there are certain background processes that are dramatically draining my battery. I don't have many apps installed, because I am always flashing roms. I've wiped media storage data, by the way. Some apps that I have installed are the xda developers app, dolphin browser, rescan media root, root browser, rom manager, DS Battery Saver, and lux dash.
Extra: I've debloated (still some left over garbage stock apps leftover but not much, and does it actually help?), I've installed lux lite and lowered my brightness to the point where you can barely see the screen, and I've also downloaded rescan media root and disabled media scan (I heard it has some effect).
If you have any suggestions, please post them. Thanks for reading my thread.
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TL;DR all the way since there is no numbers. We need numbers and better yet wakelocks. The info you state sounds like normal usage that should get about 2-3 hours screen on time, and 16 hours or so day usage. You say you turn off data, and wifi, and put on airplane mode, and stuff and yet you use the phone normally?? Either way give us screen on time and the main users, and the graph.
Furthermore, no need for duplicate threads....
mt3g said:
TL;DR all the way since there is no numbers. We need numbers and better yet wakelocks. The info you state sounds like normal usage that should get about 2-3 hours screen on time, and 16 hours or so day usage. You say you turn off data, and wifi, and put on airplane mode, and stuff and yet you use the phone normally?? Either way give us screen on time and the main users, and the graph.
Furthermore, no need for duplicate threads....
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What do you mean when you said TL ;DR all the way? What is TL ;DR?
I'm going to charge up to 100% and then when I get to about 50% battery life or so I will post screenshots. As I stated in my first post, I acknowledge that there are many battery problem threads out there, but people also say it can vary from phone to phone, and I will soon post screenshots so that somebody can at least tell me what is causing my battery drain, specifically and what I can do about it.
If anybody feels that this is a duplicated thread, please refer me some links or useful threads that I can look at.
Forum mods, if you feel that this is a duplicated thread feel free to close it.
dannytron said:
What do you mean when you said TL ;DR all the way? What is TL ;DR?
I'm going to charge up to 100% and then when I get to about 50% battery life or so I will post screenshots. As I stated in my first post, I acknowledge that there are many battery problem threads out there, but people also say it can vary from phone to phone, and I will soon post screenshots so that somebody can at least tell me what is causing my battery drain, specifically and what I can do about it.
If anybody feels that this is a duplicated thread, please refer me some links or useful threads that I can look at.
Forum mods, if you feel that this is a duplicated thread feel free to close it.
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BetterBatteryStats log or nobody can help you.
Aerowinder said:
BetterBatteryStats log or nobody can help you.
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Should I just leave it overnight and then post bbs log tomorrow?
Btw, should I install ktweaker so that I can set governor to conservative and also tweak some settings or should I leave it alone?
Also if you really want reliable results, either run the tests on the primary rom you will be using or run on stock rooted. Dont debloat because it can be very easy to remove something that could impact performance. You can do that after running your tests and gathering data. The further down you run your battery, the more reliable the data btw.
This hasn't been much of an issue since JB came out, but if the media scanner is using a large amount of power delete all your media content from both internal and external sd cards. Clear data on media storage (factory reset preferred) and run a day w/o the media on your device.
As stated above though, BBS screenshots are needed for further help.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Also if you really want reliable results, either run the tests on the primary rom you will be using or run on stock rooted. Dont debloat because it can be very easy to remove something that could impact performance. You can do that after running your tests and gathering data. The further down you run your battery, the more reliable the data btw.
This hasn't been much of an issue since JB came out, but if the media scanner is using a large amount of power delete all your media content from both internal and external sd cards. Clear data on media storage (factory reset preferred) and run a day w/o the media on your device.
As stated above though, BBS screenshots are needed for further help.
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Ok I'll reinstall stock rom and kernel and post results tomorrow. Should I turn off wifi, set airplane mode, set powersaving mode, (basically do normal tweaks to save battery) or just leave it as normal?
dannytron said:
Ok I'll reinstall stock rom and kernel and post results tomorrow. Should I turn off wifi, set airplane mode, set powersaving mode, (basically do normal tweaks to save battery) or just leave it as normal?
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No.
Charge it up before you go to sleep. Unplug the phone, turn off the display, and let it sit idle while you sleep for at least 4 hours. When you wake up, open BetterBatteryStats, and press the share button on the top right. Dump to txt file and post it here.
If you give BBS root access, and set it to show alarms (in the advanced settings), that can be helpful also. It's better if you can do this, actually. Then run your test.
dannytron said:
What do you mean when you said TL ;DR all the way? What is TL ;DR?
I'm going to charge up to 100% and then when I get to about 50% battery life or so I will post screenshots. As I stated in my first post, I acknowledge that there are many battery problem threads out there, but people also say it can vary from phone to phone, and I will soon post screenshots so that somebody can at least tell me what is causing my battery drain, specifically and what I can do about it.
If anybody feels that this is a duplicated thread, please refer me some links or useful threads that I can look at.
Forum mods, if you feel that this is a duplicated thread feel free to close it.
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I was referring to you making two posts about the same thing. As you're already aware of since you acknowledged your mistake here
and tl;dr is Too Long Didn't Read... just cause of the fact that there was no numbers to look at. Looking forward to seeing what your issue is tomorrow. Hopefully it might just be a bad battery.
Yeah just reset to stock and just doing some daily browsing on phone. Btw, on bbs, there are multiple graph, (processes, wakelocks, kernel wakelocks, other, alarm wakelock, etc) which one(s) should I post?
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All and click on the share logo, and do dump text file and post that also.
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I left it on overnight, battery only drained like 4% so I don't think its a problem when its in idle. As of now I am testing how long my battery will last with moderate usage. I'm hoping it will last at least 24h its been 10h and its at 79%. Its that good? I've mostly been listening to music, I haven't opened any apps. Only problem is whenever I am on xda or playing a game, the battery seems to drain like 1% every 5-10 min. Is this normal?
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I left it on overnight, battery only drained like 4% so I don't think its a problem when its in idle. As of now I am testing how long my battery will last with moderate usage. I'm hoping it will last at least 24h its been 10h and its at 79%. Its that good? I've mostly been listening to music, I haven't opened any apps. Only problem is whenever I am on xda or playing a game, the battery seems to drain like 1% every 5-10 min. Is this normal?
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Yes that's normal.
Just leave BBS running all the time. If you have any more problems, I think you know what to do
This is exactly what I was expecting the whole time, normal usage and normal battery drainage.
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mt3g said:
This is exactly what I was expecting the whole time, normal usage and normal battery drainage.
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My battery life on stock rom is better than custom rom and kernel? I find that kind of weird. Is it just me or do other people's phones have better battery life on stock than custom?
dannytron said:
My battery life on stock rom is better than custom rom and kernel? I find that kind of weird. Is it just me or do other people's phones have better battery life on stock than custom?
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I run stock. Never seen anyone beat mine...
Lol then I guess I have been hearing the wrong stuff, always thought that custom roms/kernels were better than stock
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I run stock. Never seen anyone beat mine...
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I think he means stock like out of box
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mt3g said:
I think he means stock like out of box
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Have you seen this? http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-for-android-ics-a-comprehensive-guide-part-1/
Most of the battery "tweaks" in use by custom ROMs are in there. And I was running stock deodexed before S3Rx and ultimately Dandroid. Battery is always good as long as I run LJC firmware.
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Have you seen this? http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-for-android-ics-a-comprehensive-guide-part-1/
Most of the battery "tweaks" in use by custom ROMs are in there. And I was running stock deodexed before S3Rx and ultimately Dandroid. Battery is always good as long as I run LJC firmware.
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Just took a quick look at it, looks pretty complicated for me. What exactly is the difference between deodexed and odexed anyways? I've heard of both of them but never really understood what they were. Which firmware do you run on currently?
For the firmware are you referring to the 4.1.1 JB firmware T999_UVDLJC?
hi. im a brand new rooter. i got a preowned s4 mini last week and decided to root it using a guide here(im very new to all of this) i deleted bloatware and use apps like greenify, setcpu, wakelock detector all to my knowledge have been done right and im still having crap battery times. worse than my 5 year old iphone 4s!
i can post any screenshot of stats upon request but from my new knowledge of all of these apps and rooting, i see nothing out of the ordinary. if im being honest, "battery doctor" seems to be a nusiance to my battery. but it often gives me reminders that my phone is draining quickly with 29 apps open that i cant delete with app master or even see on greenify. some of them are..favourite contacts, active apps manager, s planner widget, csc, remote controls, factory mode, alarm and video player. the rest are the ones above like setcpu, greenify etc.
so im asking..what now? ive seen mentioned that getting rid of touchwiz and installing a new ROM like cyanogenmodgod. but what then?
ive no idea how to understand some of this but im fine with following instructions with technical stuff i.e rooting my phone in the first place.
i really hope i can be helped as im really liking my first android experience bar battery life
Marky91 said:
hi. im a brand new rooter. i got a preowned s4 mini last week and decided to root it using a guide here(im very new to all of this) i deleted bloatware and use apps like greenify, setcpu, wakelock detector all to my knowledge have been done right and im still having crap battery times. worse than my 5 year old iphone 4s!
i can post any screenshot of stats upon request but from my new knowledge of all of these apps and rooting, i see nothing out of the ordinary. if im being honest, "battery doctor" seems to be a nusiance to my battery. but it often gives me reminders that my phone is draining quickly with 29 apps open that i cant delete with app master or even see on greenify. some of them are..favourite contacts, active apps manager, s planner widget, csc, remote controls, factory mode, alarm and video player. the rest are the ones above like setcpu, greenify etc.
so im asking..what now? ive seen mentioned that getting rid of touchwiz and installing a new ROM like cyanogenmodgod. but what then?
ive no idea how to understand some of this but im fine with following instructions with technical stuff i.e rooting my phone in the first place.
i really hope i can be helped as im really liking my first android experience bar battery life
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Could you post some screenshots of Wakelock detector and some general things like Screen on time etc ? would help us out troubleshooting your problem
wout.vde said:
Could you post some screenshots of Wakelock detector and some general things like Screen on time etc ? would help us out troubleshooting your problem
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ill do that later when ive spare time. ill write a little update for now..
tried CM11, simply did not like the UI, i much prefare the stock s4 mini UI (touchwiz?) so ive reverted back. ill be sure to post screenshots of wakelock, battery screen etc.
my signal is rarely above 2 bars if 2 at all..ive changed the settings from LTE to the one that means 3g...hopefully the more stable 2..sometimes full bars saves battery!
heres screenshots of various things.
notice how battery doctor has many aps as being in the backround even though i greenified them AND turned permissions like "always on" to OFF so there isnt a reason why they should be on.
ok..i cant post links until i reach 10 posts so ill add in a space in the link..
ht tp://s723.photobucket.com/user/mark_logan2/library/S4%20Mini
Marky91 said:
heres screenshots of various things.
notice how battery doctor has many aps as being in the backround even though i greenified them AND turned permissions like "always on" to OFF so there isnt a reason why they should be on.
ok..i cant post links until i reach 10 posts so ill add in a space in the link..
ht tp://s723.photobucket.com/user/mark_logan2/library/S4%20Mini
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If you go to settings > Battery > Battery graph , does it show the phone actually sleeps? (the "awake" bar)
I attached a screenshot , if the bar is compleatly highlighted , this means the phone does not go in sleep.
If this is not the case , i suspect something is wrong with you battery.
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If you go to settings > Battery > Battery graph , does it show the phone actually sleeps? (the "awake" bar)
I attached a screenshot , if the bar is compleatly highlighted , this means the phone does not go in sleep.
If this is not the case , i suspect something is wrong with you battery.
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nope..the awake bar does have bits missing (being asleep, right?) i seem to be getting acceptable charge times as of late..some games make the phone very warm and do destroy battery % but so did them games on my iphone 4s. this phone isnt brand new..it is almost new..im "happy" with the battery times now but not so much as i expected better times than my 4s but its about the same at best. i may try an OEM battery someday and see if that gives me even a 10% increase.
any advice on charging? took me about 2.5 hours to fully charge..about 1.5 of them hours, i had the phone turned off..the rest was on airplane mode
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nope..the awake bar does have bits missing (being asleep, right?) i seem to be getting acceptable charge times as of late..some games make the phone very warm and do destroy battery % but so did them games on my iphone 4s. this phone isnt brand new..it is almost new..im "happy" with the battery times now but not so much as i expected better times than my 4s but its about the same at best. i may try an OEM battery someday and see if that gives me even a 10% increase.
any advice on charging? took me about 2.5 hours to fully charge..about 1.5 of them hours, i had the phone turned off..the rest was on airplane mode
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That indeed means the phone is sleeping.
What kind of Screen on time are you getting ? do you leave bluetooth / 3G / Wifi on all the time ?
3G and especially 4G is a huge battery killer.
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About the charging , i generally just charge my phone at night functioning as a clock since the battery lasts me a full day.
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That indeed means the phone is sleeping.
What kind of Screen on time are you getting ? do you leave bluetooth / 3G / Wifi on all the time ?
3G and especially 4G is a huge battery killer.
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About the charging , i generally just charge my phone at night functioning as a clock since the battery lasts me a full day.
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i have wifi only on. its on most of the day, i turn it off while i sleep or if im out and about with no hotspots about.
i seen on youtube something about a faster touchwiz thats available here..it apparently helps battery life?
also nova launcher may help with battery life too?
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i have wifi only on. its on most of the day, i turn it off while i sleep or if im out and about with no hotspots about.
i seen on youtube something about a faster touchwiz thats available here..it apparently helps battery life?
also nova launcher may help with battery life too?
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Other launchers probably won't help with battery life.
I'd suggest turning off any radio's you don't use and (off course) keep the brightness low. What kind of screen on time are you getting ? (Settings > battery > screen )
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