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what to expect when upgrading to verizon phone

Im looking at going from an alltel htc touch pro to a Droid Incredible.
It's my understanding, from the sales person, that
#1 I can't keep my old school alltel phone plan that was grandfathered in with the merger
#2 Id have to get a few things differently with my Verizon plan.
Here's a couple things that came up.... Under my alltel plan I was paying $30 for unlimited data, whether straight through the phone or tethered, or broadcasting wifi through an installed cab.
But now im going to have to pay at least one or maybe 2 monthly charges to tether, and my usage is metered and limited to a certian amount of transfer?
Here's the nuts and bolts of the old alltel plan on the touch pro. About 100/mo with 30 of that being the data plan with no limit on useage. Mycircle.. unlimited text, 500 anytime, free mobile to mobile
So what should I expect from "Verizon" if I try to buy a Droid Inc..?

Simple way to avoid tethering fees. Root your incredible, and install wireless tether. Verizon can't detect you're tethering or if they can, they don't whine about it.

Thanks!
I always wanted to try that before but instead paid the 30/mo instead. Fear I guess.

I pay $103 a month, 450 minutes and unlimited everything else, so your cost will be about the same.
When you get the incredible, root it, and install the application wireless tether as said. It is the same thing as the mobile hotspot, you just won't get charged by Verizon for using it to tether.

g00s3y said:
I pay $103 a month, 450 minutes and unlimited everything else, so your cost will be about the same.
When you get the incredible, root it, and install the application wireless tether as said. It is the same thing as the mobile hotspot, you just won't get charged by Verizon for using it to tether.
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you can also use PdaNet or EasyTether is you want to to tether via USB..

I just hack my normal 3g tether...

Or you can go into epst and change the thingy from dun.VZW ect to vzw.
Look for the tut on here somewhere its what I do
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I pay $86 a month, 450 minutes and unlimited everything else thatis with a 20 dollar discount

I pay $45 a month for unlimited EVERYTHING at Cricket. Just buy a Dinc somewhere, and use the ROM here at XDA.

Well I pulled the trigger this afternoon and got the Inc.
I kept my old plan.
As she was ringing it up she said a notification popped up that said I would lose my 7pm-7am free calling. Shortly after she was able to add it back on the plan like it always was.
I was surprised with a $50-off during the check-out too! .. and without warning.
It was going to be 249.99+ 100 mail-in rebate+ tax. Ended up being 213 out the door, so I will only end up with 113 in the phone.
It keeps asking to install a system update. Do I keep selecting no and go ahead and root?

Now I just have to get these touch pro contacts into the inc??

hoag50 said:
I pay $86 a month, 450 minutes and unlimited everything else thatis with a 20 dollar discount
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I have the same plan as above. I get the $20 discount from my job.
Unlimited everything w/ 450 Minutes of talk time.

GrahamHill said:
Now I just have to get these touch pro contacts into the inc??
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I connected the TP to wifi and put google's server m.google.com in activesync and allowed it to sync my contacts. Almost immediately all of my contacts were zapped into the new incredible!

Is 4G required for an EVO?

I'm considering buying an EVO from my friend, rather than buying it through Sprint. I currently have the Everything data family pack. My question is, am I able to just activate the phone like I would with any other and keep my same plan without getting 4G? I read that the EVO gets 3G as well so I'm assuming 4G isn't required...

You seem to be a little confused. You only get 4G if its available in your area. You wont have to change plans. You will have to pay an extra $10 a month for the extra data a EVO uses. Sprint has claimed that the $10 isn't a extra for 4G. Its extra because of the amount of data the phone/user uses. Hope this helps sure it raises more questions.

zone23 said:
You seem to be a little confused. You only get 4G if its available in your area. You wont have to change plans. You will have to pay an extra $10 a month for the extra data a EVO uses. Sprint has claimed that the $10 isn't a extra for 4G. Its extra because of the amount of data the phone/user uses. Hope this helps sure it raises more questions.
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Oh! I was under the impression that the EVO required a new plan..but is the ten dollars required if I just want to stick with 3g?

radxcoresteven said:
Oh! I was under the impression that the EVO required a new plan..but is the ten dollars required if I just want to stick with 3g?
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Yes. At first, this upset me too (because before just recently I didn't get 4G). But you get unlimited data with that $10, and when all is said and done, it's still a lot cheaper than other companies unlimited plans. I would HIGHLY recommend this phone

Yes it is required regardless if you have 4G in your area or not.

Cool! Sounds good. I'm coming from the Hero so I'm excited to see how the development goes with the EVO. Thanks!

radxcoresteven said:
Oh! I was under the impression that the EVO required a new plan..but is the ten dollars required if I just want to stick with 3g?
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Yes the $10 is automatic. You cannot just say I want 3G only. You would only have to change plans if you weren't already on the everything data plan.

at&t and VZW are block tethering apps from android market... Will Sprint Also?

http://tech-buzz.net/2011/05/01/att-and-verizon-blocking-tethering-apps-from-the-android-market/
BIG RED (Verizon) and BIG BLUE (ATT) are now banning tethering apps from the android market. Will they also ban it from the amazon market also? And will Sprint follow the leader?

Doesn't really matter if they do or not. Just download the .apk and install it if you want it.

I knew it was a matter of time and of course, Sprint has already been discussing the issue. The part I don't like, is about the cell provider auto adding the plan to your monthly bill when they catch you tethering, which I don't see how they can do if CarrierIQ is removed. Unless they drive around neighborhoods in a van, connecting tether frequencies to your address. Lol
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southparkeric said:
http://tech-buzz.net/2011/05/01/att-and-verizon-blocking-tethering-apps-from-the-android-market/
BIG RED (Verizon) and BIG BLUE (ATT) are now banning tethering apps from the android market. Will they also ban it from the amazon market also? And will Sprint follow the leader?
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As long as the apps are still in the market, you can just get a modded market to see and download the apps.

Epicdriver said:
I knew it was a matter of time and of course, Sprint has already been discussing the issue. The part I don't like, is about the cell provider auto adding the plan to your monthly bill when they catch you tethering, which I don't see how they can do if CarrierIQ is removed. Unless they drive around neighborhoods in a van, connecting tether frequencies to your address. Lol
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yeah i am currently using stock. I was using midnight but he stopped development so i went to stock for a little bit. I think that we should be able to use our data in anyway we want to. But the carriers see tethering as a gold mine. I say as a compromise how about this data plans....
plan 1: tethering allowed but speed capped at 1megabit...
plan 2: unlimited Thehering Allowed and unlimited data and only $15 more per month speed capped at 3megabit
plan 3: super data plan same as plan 2 but has full wimax speeds and is free if you get the $99 unlimited everything plan.

southparkeric said:
yeah i am currently using stock. I was using midnight but he stopped development so i went to stock for a little bit. I think that we should be able to use our data in anyway we want to. But the carriers see tethering as a gold mine. I say as a compromise how about this data plans....
plan 1: tethering allowed but speed capped at 1megabit...
plan 2: unlimited Thehering Allowed and unlimited data and only $15 more per month speed capped at 3megabit
plan 3: super data plan same as plan 2 but has full wimax speeds and is free if you get the $99 unlimited everything plan.
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How about unlimited data plan still means unlimited data? I am already paying an extra $10 a month for.....? I wasn't paying that with the Palm Pre or Instinct. All could get on the web. The only reason I tether is to see the damn websites and use a grown up keyboard. Should not have to pay another $30 a month for that.

kennyglass123 said:
How about unlimited data plan still means unlimited data? I am already paying an extra $10 a month for.....? I wasn't paying that with the Palm Pre or Instinct. All could get on the web. The only reason I tether is to see the damn websites and use a grown up keyboard. Should not have to pay another $30 a month for that.
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The extra $10 is not because of the data at all. The charge is because you have a "smart phone". This would be like when you purchase a car and the state says you have to pay a gas guzzler tax because your car only get 25mpg and not 35mpg. What sprint should do is whay verizon is doing with the $50 prepaid unlimited plan for features phone. Sprint says feature phones prices per month is this and for smart phones they are this....
on the plus side id you are a sprint shareholder then this may help the bottom line by finding ways to charge more for the same services. I think next sprint will increase the fee for tables to $20 as it is an uber device with a screen larger then 4". They can also charge $15 for any smart phone with a 4" or larger screen. And if you phone has a battery that is not environmentally recycled then sprint can also charge you $10 per month for that...

southparkeric said:
The extra $10 is not because of the data at all. The charge is because you have a "smart phone". This would be like when you purchase a car and the state says you have to pay a gas guzzler tax because your car only get 25mpg and not 35mpg. What sprint should do is whay verizon is doing with the $50 prepaid unlimited plan for features phone. Sprint says feature phones prices per month is this and for smart phones they are this....
on the plus side id you are a sprint shareholder then this may help the bottom line by finding ways to charge more for the same services. I think next sprint will increase the fee for tables to $20 as it is an uber device with a screen larger then 4". They can also charge $15 for any smart phone with a 4" or larger screen. And if you phone has a battery that is not environmentally recycled then sprint can also charge you $10 per month for that...
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HaHa! Yes if you have a larger screen you must be using larger data. Their first explanation for the $10 was the higher data use with this super phone. Now they just stumble when you call them on that and say it is for having a premium phone....I paid that cost when I bought the phone. It is more like buying a sports car outright and still having to pay the dealer a monthly fee for it being a sports car.
Do you BONSAI?

kennyglass123 said:
HaHa! Yes if you have a larger screen you must be using larger data. Their first explanation for the $10 was the higher data use with this super phone. Now they just stumble when you call them on that and say it is for having a premium phone....I paid that cost when I bought the phone. It is more like buying a sports car outright and still having to pay the dealer a monthly fee for it being a sports car.
Do you BONSAI?
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how about an extra $10 fee per month if you also get the unlimited $99 plan since you have unlimited minutes you must then use more minutes then most other people..... How about an extra $10 charge for streaming music and video from such apps as youtube and pandora....

Epicdriver said:
The part I don't like, is about the cell provider auto adding the plan to your monthly bill when they catch you tethering, which I don't see how they can do if CarrierIQ is removed.
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Can you please tell me how to remove the carrieriq? I just bought my epic recently and rooted it with the root method for RFS file system. Haven't installed any custom ROMs or done any other mods besides the rooting itself.
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imjimmy said:
Can you please tell me how to remove the carrieriq? I just bought my epic recently and rooted it with the root method for RFS file system. Haven't installed any custom ROMs or done any other mods besides the rooting itself.
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First you need a tiny screwdriver.......
Nah! Go to Development and get a ROM with it removed.

imjimmy said:
Can you please tell me how to remove the carrieriq? I just bought my epic recently and rooted it with the root method for RFS file system. Haven't installed any custom ROMs or done any other mods besides the rooting itself.
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Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061912

Here is your proof: Sprint has already started removing it...
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/10/s...arket/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...locking-tethering-apps-in-the-android-market/

Tried to get barnacle from my de-activated epic 4g over wifi and it still gives me the yellow banner...
So sprint is blocking them now... Even for deactivated phones...

orb360 said:
Tried to get barnacle from my de-activated epic 4g over wifi and it still gives me the yellow banner...
So sprint is blocking them now... Even for deactivated phones...
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Wireless Tether works just fine. They are blocking them from the Market so you can't see them to download not block their use.
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kennyglass123 said:
How about unlimited data plan still means unlimited data? I am already paying an extra $10 a month for.....? I wasn't paying that with the Palm Pre or Instinct. All could get on the web. The only reason I tether is to see the damn websites and use a grown up keyboard. Should not have to pay another $30 a month for that.
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root phone
download wifi teather from the google android sight
who cares about the market
unlimited data means unlimited data, agreed.
companys charging extra for tethering (att, verizion [whos in fcc violiation over block c right?]) and companys charging extra for the os you run (boost) is the dumbest thing i have ever seen.
go check out republicwirless.com
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kennyglass123 said:
Wireless Tether works just fine. They are blocking them from the Market so you can't see them to download not block their use.
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will chainfires market fix, put it back in there (this removes device info so i can see tegra 2 games) dose it also remove carrier id?
what if you replace your market with a diffrent version that has carrier id removed?

Can I tether ATT without rooting?

Is there any way to enable tethering (without tethering plan) on an ATT S3 without rooting?
Thanks,
Jack

Nope
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jackryan57 said:
Is there any way to enable tethering (without tethering plan) on an ATT S3 without rooting?
Thanks,
Jack
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27718633
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Yes download the app FoxFi
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If you are on AT&T's new mobile data share plans (or if you switch to it) then yes, you can tether for free and it will count against whatever data plan you chose (or choose) with mobile share. I switched my phones over on Thursday. I have a S3, and an iPhone 4s. We went with the 6 gig plan. All plans come with unlimited talk and text to any number, as well as wireless hotspot and tethering (wifi and USB), with no additional setup fees.
Both my phones share the 6 gigs and those gigs can be used however I choose.

txskeets said:
If you are on AT&T's new mobile data share plans (or if you switch to it) then yes, you can tether for free and it will count against whatever data plan you chose (or choose) with mobile share. I switched my phones over on Thursday. I have a S3, and an iPhone 4s. We went with the 6 gig plan. All plans come with unlimited talk and text to any number, as well as wireless hotspot and tethering (wifi and USB), with no additional setup fees.
Both my phones share the 6 gigs and those gigs can be used however I choose.
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I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan so I'm not ready to switch to a shared plan and risk losing unlimited. Thanks for the replies everyone

Foxfi does work on ATT - go here: Foxfi.com/bin download the app and run it. I needed a reboot to get it to work but after that - flawless. Thanks everyone

jackryan57 said:
I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan so I'm not ready to switch to a shared plan and risk losing unlimited. Thanks for the replies everyone
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... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?

AT&T seems to be REALLY good at knowing when your tethering. I never had the "unlimited" plan on AT&T to begin with (but realistically, it really isnt unlimited anymore anyways), so I was very happy to see the new mobile share plans that allow me to use my tethering as part of the data I'm already paying them for every month.
elementaldragon said:
... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?
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elementaldragon said:
... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?
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I did not know this. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan through ATT. If I use FoxFi they can see that and force me into a new plan?
Samsung s3

Tlo218 said:
I did not know this. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan through ATT. If I use FoxFi they can see that and force me into a new plan?
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I used to tether on my old phone (iPhone) with ATT and one day I got a text saying basically to stop tethering or they would put me into a capped data plan. I continued tethering until I got another text saying they were moving me into a data plan. I called ATT and was polite and played dumb, the girl said she would remove that "flag" from my account since I called. I stopped tethering at that point. Now I just want to see if it can be done on my S3, I will prolly just go with a data plan at some point and tether properly with ATT

How do they monitor that?
Samsung s3

Tlo218 said:
How do they monitor that?
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Easy. Tethering forces additional hop. Also data usage when on another tethered device has different characteristics vs. data usage on the device.
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Since your talking about FoxFi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830484

Unlimited data plan offer

Has anyone else recently had an offer for unlimited data from verizon? I just got that offer today and it's about 30 dollars cheaper than what I'm currently paying. Is this one of those to good to be true deals? From what I've been able to find out, it looks like it's 10gb of tethered 4g data and then switches to 3g and 22gb of data and then switches to 3g. Am I missing something? Does anyone know anything more about it? Is what I read online correct? I can't seem to find anything official from verizon regarding the fine print.

kevintm78 said:
Has anyone else recently had an offer for unlimited data from verizon? I just got that offer today and it's about 30 dollars cheaper than what I'm currently paying. Is this one of those to good to be true deals? From what I've been able to find out, it looks like it's 10gb of tethered 4g data and then switches to 3g and 22gb of data and then switches to 3g. Am I missing something? Does anyone know anything more about it? Is what I read online correct? I can't seem to find anything official from verizon regarding the fine print.
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I work for VZW. It's legit, it's real unlimited with 10gb of tethering at 4g speeds and then deprioritization after 22gb of mobile use. Meaning that if you hit 22gb and are connected to a congested tower, you might be slowed down a bit as other users who don't use as much data will be pushed to the front of the line, so to speak. If you're on a tower that isn't congested, you won't experience any slowdowns. Hope that helps.

Are you in a grandfathered unlimited plan? If so, what you have is true unlimited where this plan offering is throttled after 22gb.

freduser said:
Are you in a grandfathered unlimited plan? If so, what you have is true unlimited where this plan offering is throttled after 22gb.
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I still have the true unlimited plan, it's an altell plan from 15 years or more ago. But my kids and wife don't. I wonder if this would be good for me. But I make them piggy back off my WiFi tether when we go anywhere. And always stay on WiFi. I wish it was 22g per line, instead of the account.
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donelam304 said:
I still have the true unlimited plan, it's an altell plan from 15 years or more ago. But my kids and wife don't. I wonder if this would be good for me. But I make them piggy back off my WiFi tether when we go anywhere. And always stay on WiFi. I wish it was 22g per line, instead of the account.
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I had the same thing. I switched to the new plan and noticed no difference. I think you will be all right.
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donelam304 said:
I still have the true unlimited plan, it's an altell plan from 15 years or more ago. But my kids and wife don't. I wonder if this would be good for me. But I make them piggy back off my WiFi tether when we go anywhere. And always stay on WiFi. I wish it was 22g per line, instead of the account.
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Grandfathered true unlimited is true unlimited per fcc rules. As for having them tether I'm not sure Verizon's stance.
That said, the new plan you will be throttled and can be because it is written as such.
Just keep that in mind.

I just compared my current plan to the Unlimited Plan. I could change and it would be the same price, BUT, not really, because I would lose the Employer discount my wife gets.

dkahs23 said:
I had the same thing. I switched to the new plan and noticed no difference. I think you will be all right.
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On average I myself use 20 gigs to 40 gigs per month. I'm not sure if this would work that well.
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