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[req] samsung touchwiz 3.0 UI

not sure if its even possible, or maybe not yet. but with 2 galaxy s phones being out i was wondering if its possible to get a touchwiz 3.0 ui instead of sense. I actually really like the layout and design and all the little tweaks it has. Is it possible to get a complete port of the ui to the evo?

It's possible in the context of "anything is possible" but I would bet my money on it never happening.
If TouchWiz is anything like sense, it's integrated into numerous parts of the Android OS all over the place. TouchWiz is also proprietary to Samsung, like Sense is to HTC. In other words, there isn't source code for developers to "port" from. This would be a large task even if source code was available.
IMHO I would rather see someone's time spent either helping others find solutions that meet your needs that are already available or implementing an open source solution that would work on more than just the EVO.
Just my 0.02c feel free to correct me on whatever.

yeah thats what i thought :/ i just love the bottom down, style of icons, and all the menu styles

Interesting. I though most people hated/disliked TouchWiz.
It's definitely not the prettiest interface out there, but it does its job. If you like it build it, but as for me, I'll stick with vanilla Android.
Although a community based UI (above just a new launcher) that incorporated some of the features out there like weather, social networks, etc. would definitely be a welcome change, as it could be streamlined for speed optimizations.
Just my $.02.
~Jasecloud4

If a dev could find a dump and port it over, that's essentially what ava did with his froyo sense rom.
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well i posted a thread here, since realizing a whole rom for that ui might be to much, maybe just asking for the launcher. i know the touchwiz launcher apk works on the evo, but none of the widgets load.
is it possible to replace the launcher on my dc rom with the touchwiz one?

samrozzi said:
well i posted a thread here, since realizing a whole rom for that ui might be to much, maybe just asking for the launcher. i know the touchwiz launcher apk works on the evo, but none of the widgets load.
is it possible to replace the launcher on my dc rom with the touchwiz one?
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Maybe this is a great opportunity for you to get involved with the community and start learning about how this stuff works.
Looks like the stock ROM for the Galaxy S can be obtained here (the Vibrant)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728698
You could always start taking it apart and try to isolate the TouchWiz components and "bake" them into your own Android ROM.
Looks like there's a good place to start for cooking your own ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
...and you'll probably want to read up on Android in general so I'd encourage you to Google up the SDK.

thought this would be a good place to post this.

TouchWiz has some nice stuff. I kinda like the launcher, and there are some kinda useful widgets. I hate the icons, and some of the other theme stuff.
I think what you want will kind exist though. Most of the widgets have as good or better equivalents in the market, and ADW launcher offers the sideways sliding app drawer, and as mentioned above we have the launcher available.
I think skinning would be the missing part to really get a nice TouchWiz feel. Someone could make an icon theme, and maybe themed versions of some market sourced widgets that have the TouchWiz look and feel.
I wanted a more AOSP rom and started working on my own and learned a ton, but then tjohnson's ROM really filled the hole better than I could, so I never released anything. If you can get into this an start breaking stuff apart, I think there are enough people out there that would want TouchWiz to make it worth while, but if you aren't up to the effort of porting, skinning would probably achieve most of what you want with a lot less effort.

after installing the apk, make sure you go to menu>settings>applications>HTC Sense and clear defaults then force stop.

Drr, there was a whole other point I forgot.
This is why I am excited about launcher Pro right now. Fede sees that a lot of people like Sense, and realized that he can really implement the great parts of Sense on his own with some effort. This have several benefits. One is giving Sense-like features to those with phones that don't come with it, and allowing people to choose what parts they do or do not want to use. We kinda already do this in custom mods and themeing, but his work will work on non-rooted phones too. Right now his focus is Sense-like widgets, but the same type of effort could be made for TouchWiz or Blur type widgets, and additionally everything could be skinned together, really giving users a great choice without having to give up much at all.

laydros said:
Drr, there was a whole other point I forgot.
This is why I am excited about launcher Pro right now. Fede sees that a lot of people like Sense, and realized that he can really implement the great parts of Sense on his own with some effort. This have several benefits. One is giving Sense-like features to those with phones that don't come with it, and allowing people to choose what parts they do or do not want to use. We kinda already do this in custom mods and themeing, but his work will work on non-rooted phones too. Right now his focus is Sense-like widgets, but the same type of effort could be made for TouchWiz or Blur type widgets, and additionally everything could be skinned together, really giving users a great choice without having to give up much at all.
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I love LauncherPro. Been using it since version 0.0.2, or whatever. I just hope that now that he is charging for the app, HTC doesn't come down on him with a cease and desist letter. He does seem to be copying the Sense UI, now with the scrollable widgets, and the setup of the widgets.

tokuzumi said:
I love LauncherPro. Been using it since version 0.0.2, or whatever. I just hope that now that he is charging for the app, HTC doesn't come down on him with a cease and desist letter. He does seem to be copying the Sense UI, now with the scrollable widgets, and the setup of the widgets.
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but the widgets and such have a different look and better functionality/fluidity. It is not truly based off sense UI, Any body can make something that looks similar but works differently. I supported him day one with LP+ for 2.99. Well worth it.

[Q] Different roms... Vanilla or Sense?

I've been playing with a few different ROMs lately and one thing that I keep coming back to is "why?". Realistically, I like some of the things that come with sense (the dialpad, friendstream, gallery) but I can replace those with market apps.
Is there really a reason to not have sense if you can remove the apps you don't like? I can get really good quadrant scores on both, but I've learned that doesn't necessarily mean great performance. All I really care about is if the phone feels snappy and works like I want it to.
I use launcherpro so the appdrawer and quicklaunch buttons dont bother me at all, which is the majority of what I dont like about sense. I can remove all the other apps I dont use or want, so is there a distinct advantage to using a vanilla rom over a sense one other than personal preference? I keep bouncing back from SR vanilla to Ruby and even Virtuous ROM now and all of them are very awesome. Sorry if this has been asked, but I couldnt find any clear reason why someone would want a pure vanilla ROM over something like SR3 that has most of the crappy stuff from sense removed already.

I believe it truly is just personal preference. What you like, how you want it to look, the widgets you want to use. A big plus to me with Sense was the lock screen controls. But now with ihtfp69 and getting the rotary vanilla lockscreen with music controls on it, I prefer vanilla over sense. But thats me.

I prefer vanilla over Sense also.
The more stripped bare, the better for me.
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I like the vanilla, im running the sr but just tried the sr sense and i got a huge score on the q of 1478!!! Im getting around 1330 on vanilla, I like the layout of vanilla

For me the best advantage of an AOSP rom vs. a Sense/de-Sensed rom is the phone answer screen. With a sense rom I would always accidentally answer the phone when taking it out of my pocket when it was ringing. With AOSP roms the answer slider moves left/right so I never have this problem. I've also noticed that I have a lot more free memory at boot with an AOSP rom then even a de-sensed rom. The stock browser also allows many more simultaneous open windows then a sense based rom, which is limited to 4 windows total.
I just recently switched to Ruby 1.1.1 with the radio layer and bluetooth patch and have been loving it.

For me, you have a few categories.
-Sense
-Sense light (e.g. Best of both worlds)
-AOSP
-MIUI (I know this is an AOSP, but really stands out)
I love the feel off the AOSP ROMS. The dialer and contacts have larger buttons, the answer slide sideways, the messaging, etc. Like you, I use LP, so the Sense widgets are out the door anyway. I kept tasting the new sense roms because of three better continuity of appearance, however. Also, Sense handles the mms apn stuff better. But then MIUI came along. I'm not sure why it's classified as AOSP, when it is really an impressive overlay of android, much as sense is. I don't really knower what I'm talking about, but I can tell you that MIUI changed me. I feel like it is giving me the best of both worlds, and I could go on and on about the little features that make it truly unique and powerful.
Boils down to preference. Try MIUI if you haven't already. Be sure to use v0.3. The newer v0.4 has some kinks.
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[Q] What do you prefer Sense or None Sense?

Just wondering what people's opinions are with regards to their selected ROMS - Please Vote and state why

Sense because the user interface is so much better than non sense roms in my personal opinion. It seems to give a much better look and feel to the usage of the phone.
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Couldn't Vote.
Usability or Beauty.
Sense has things like teh beauty, the camera app, Rosie (which i never use), friend-stream, all of which are pretty great, and amazing usability.
while Android has the openness, the speed and stability, and allows you to do more things, but things can get ugly, like the borders of contact pictures, the camera app, and OJ death while it was an issue.
I find myself switching from OD to AuraxTSense and back about 3 times daily, because the camera can't take the pictures as sharp as I like, or because the sense is very bloaty and takes up half the screen on things like messages (reasons for today, tomorrow i think it's the theming for OD vs SYSRW in AuraxTSense)
The pros and cons of each are what is going to kill me. Can't wait for the new sense, and have realised I'm on a 16month plan so no instant Desire HD for me :'(

Which?
Hi
For me it's with Sense. The integration into Android is getting better since the early Windows Mobile days.
As long as Sense + the phone's operating system doesn't end up becoming so bloated that it brings about lag and problems (in an underpowered phone) then it will continue to be useful - in my eyes.
Cheers
Aussie

Non sense makes sense for me

i began with the nexus one using cyanogen and it was VERY fast. Sense however, seems to give it that certain polish giving a premium feel. Also, i have yet to see a more fluid flipping between homescreens than sense.

I'm on no sense now because many sense apps I don't use and no sense feels sharper.
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i'm staying with Sense cuz of camera and dialer app. Those 2 are the only reason. if CM got them i would gladly switch to it immediately.
I tried CM and OD and i love them both, cuz the devs and designers are using them a lot. and i want the REVOLution theme on my Sense-Desire!!! and they are on CM only~~

Sense. If I didn't want the Sense UI, why would I have purchased a HTC Desire? I could have gone for a Nexus One or... the Galaxy S

No sense for me cause it takes up extra ram and I don't like the black bubble browser menu and complexity of the UI as well as the lack of 3D effect like the launcher2 has. The simplicity of the AOSP nexus one like ROMS help work flow for me. After the new Desire HD rom is ported and provides better functionality, I may consider swapping

Again why is this in the dev section? And not general?
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Am I the only one using sence because of speed? I love launcherpro, but on every vanilla ROM I have been using, launcherpro has been extremely laggy. Even if all benchmarks tell me the phone is faster, it still feels terribly slow. MoDaCo to me feels so much quicker.
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Sense is good in a sense that it makes the whole android UI more easy to use, more manageable, and makes the whole thing more beautiful. People always tend to put different themes on their phone to make it as their own custom look and feel. So for me I like sense... either that or install launcher and download your own preferred theme right? I guess it all goes down to personal preference.

sense purly because I could not live without HTC Sense widgets
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mikecoffee said:
Again why is this in the dev section? And not general?
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Ahem! The rules are, you need to vote and leave a comment please.
And this is in the Desire Q&A Section since it is a question.

Without Sense ... sense is slow
For easy klicking and social networks and so on its fine perhaps ... but i never need it ... so no need for sense. The Clock with weather is fine ... so i use Fency. For Calendar ... Purewidgets ... 3 Widgets replace the hole sense for me so enjoy the speed.

philJ said:
Without Sense ... sense is slow
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I have two Desires which I regularly swap between - one is running CyanogenMod and the other MoDaCo's MCR8 Sense ROM.
I'm sure that in benchmarks CyanogendMod is "faster" but in my experience, in real world usage, there is no difference.
Actually, there is one difference - CyanogenMod is way *slower* when copying files to/from the devices in USB storage mode.
Regards,
Dave

As much as I love Sense UI, I'd rather have it optional, with a possibility to add/remove the components.

MrUsta said:
As much as I love Sense UI, I'd rather have it optional, with a possibility to add/remove the components.
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Ditto. Thus I ditched Sense altogether. I didn't use more than half of the components of sense. most frustrating is that it doesn't completely replace the base process, just runs on top of it consuming resources.

I posted this on the CM thread but i might as well ask you guys.
A question to a sense user switching to CM/Stock rom, how do you live without htc camera and htc phone dialer?
i mean for those that bought their Desire or starting to use their phone with sense without knowing a vanilla UI exist(like me). i just felt somethings missing without the htc camera and dialer. I've flashed OD/CM a couple of times but returning back to Sense cuz of that. Otherwise i would stay on CM, it is such a good rom.
I'm buying a Cybershot Digital camera but thats not so soon so i would like to have a decent camera app before that. i mean, the resolution is not wide as htc camera when taking pictures. and if i wanted a wide one i need to lower the resolution to 4.5mp? or is there any trick to that? cuz everytime i capture a pic, i'll get this right and left bar beside the pic using the 5mp resolution.
as for dialer, dialer one doesnt feel quite right to replace the htc dialer, though i may accept it sooner or later if i got my digital camera after this.
Just wanted an opinion for a Sense starter, not from pure stock rom user cuz you know vanilla UI from the start so you dont know how i feel. but you may post your opinion as well.
last question, can someone give a thought bout the 720p video recording? is it good, or better than sense's 720p?
and does this support A2SD+,i mean in this CM6, cuz CM6 RC2 doesnt have this yet and i'm on OD cuz of this actually. i want A2SD+ cuz i cant live without it...
I'm on Modaco R8 self baked ROM btw.
Thanks!

[Q] [REQ] Motoblur Rom with Sense, possible?

Hi there,
I was just wondering if it is possible to build a rom with htc sense in it. It would be nice if I even could install some of the sense widgets.
Thanks
shyd

you sure you want that?
i think htc sense is pretty ****ty
who knows what are these options in the defy, red point circle for example when you highlight some parts of the text and the magnifier pops up so that you know what you're selecting
i like that,
and the 2 sticks at the end and start of the text youre selecting
are these parts of motoblur or i can get them on other phones?

not sure you'll get anyone to port a Sense ROM to the defy but there are plenty of 'Sense'-like widgets out there. Id recommend Weather and Clock widgets and also LauncherPro (if you get the paid 'plus' version you get something that resembles FriendStream and various other great widgets).
I have a HTC Desire (and therefore Sense) but rarely dip back into the Sense Launcher or widgets these days .....

It's possible but it has legal risk, HTC might indict the developer who transplant HTC Sense to other devices.

mariu$ said:
you sure you want that?
i think htc sense is pretty ****ty
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Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
The OP's wish to have Sense is at least as valid as your comments.
Personally speaking, I'd say there's no arguing that Sense is a million times better than Blur.
Unlike Blur which is an unmitigated disaster, it actually makes the phone easier/better to use in a number of ways.
A friend for the Desire yesterday and I was helping her set it up, even things like linking your contacts list to your facebook account are just night and day better than the crap Motorola have dumped on us.
I know it's hardly the most important feature of a phone but in many ways that's my point, even the little extras are just so much better than how Blur handles even the basics.
Now I'm not saying I want Sense as a whole on my phone, I'm much happier with LauncherPro but I wouldn't mind some of it's features, that's for sure.

I like sense rom's and perfer them over the latest and greatest CM Vanillas. I have a G2 and have scored a stable 2800+ with Virtuous Sense Rom, and have run vanilla CM's and don't feel i'm missing anything in performance or options. Sense for me is where its at, blur has a few nice things but as a package it suxs. As for is it possible, I'm sure it is, if HTC's next "high End" device implimented Motorola Boot protection, I gaurentee it would be cracked, its just that the Defy is considered midrange which it is (yet its potential is great) and doesn't get the attention that the flag ship products like the Nexus S get.
mariu$ said:
you sure you want that?
i think htc sense is pretty ****ty
who knows what are these options in the defy, red point circle for example when you highlight some parts of the text and the magnifier pops up so that you know what you're selecting
i like that,
and the 2 sticks at the end and start of the text youre selecting
are these parts of motoblur or i can get them on other phones?
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Thanks guys, I took a look at several LauncherPro Widgets and found some nice ones.
Now scrolling between homescreens is even smoother than in motoblur!

Sense 3.6 > Sense 4.0 - I would revert back if it were possible!

Anyone else share my view who's also used sense 3.5 or 3.6? The recent apps is better, the home screen continuous scrolling is better, and the live wallpapers actually work! (this is all just my opinion obviously )
Although i doubt it will happen, it would be cool if a dev would back port 3.6 for the one X.
Poll put up for curiosity's sake. If you hate sense in all its iterations, this thread isnt for you

Mischaseb said:
Anyone else share my view who's also used sense 3.5 or 3.6? The recent apps is better, the home screen continuous scrolling is better, and the live wallpapers actually work! (this is all just my opinion obviously )
Although i doubt it will happen, it would be cool if a dev would back port 3.6 for the one X.
Poll put up for curiosity's sake. If you hate sense in all its iterations, this thread isnt for you
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I agree. I think Sense 4 is too aggressive in terms of memory management. That being said, I would choose sense over vanilla any day. I've never felt the need to multitask on more than 3 apps all at once so sense 4's multitasking would not affect me much and sense is just very useful for me. Overall I love sense !

I enjoyed Sense 3.6... but I think I prefer Sense 4.0 tbh.
It's 'cleaner', the Apps drawer works better, it flows nicely, I like the menu setting being laid out the way it is.
I'm not worried about continuous scrolling I 'pinch' alot on my homescreens anyway... well it doesn't matter now regardless as I use Apex Launcher which enables continuous scrolling.

Definitely prefer Sense 4.0 it blends in much better with ICS and I'm glad they have got rid of the Glass looking UI.

I'd go back just so the mail application zoomed the screen correct.
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Using go launcher ex for some time, so as far as I know I don't use sense except for camera application, which is great. (Love to video and take pictures at the same time)