Confusion on OS - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development

So I'm new to the whole concept of running the Android OS on my Tilt. I've been searching/reading/attempting this for a few days now and have had no luck. I followed a few threads to a T (or so I thought) and nothing.
Here's what HTC info:
ROM version: 3.57.502.2
Radio: 1.65.21.18
Files I currently have on my SD card:
4shared_desktop_3.2.1
KAISimg.nbh
androidinstall (TAR file) (Myn's Warm Donut RLS5)
I watched a few youtube videos following this setup and when the click the 4shared_desktop exe, it loads... mine says it's not compatible with the pocket pc.
I'm thinking of just clearing my SD card and starting from scratch again, perhaps with an easier setup someone already has(?)
Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

htcnoob87 said:
Files I currently have on my SD card:
4shared_desktop_3.2.1
KAISimg.nbh
androidinstall (TAR file) (Myn's Warm Donut RLS5)
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you will need to keep reading. the nbh files is the nand flash file just like wimo. you need haret to run from SD.
if you have really spent days reading i would not suggest flashing your nand
Need better instructions? Try reading j101399j's awesome polymod Eclair install guide with images!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5602064&postcount=1195

tried the guide, but constantly on the HaRET boot of linux my phone just freezes. I'm not sure why exactly.

there is a 2 download links in 4shared page...and you are downloaded 4shared download manager...
when that page appears , look carefully , there is another download button

htcnoob87 said:
tried the guide, but constantly on the HaRET boot of linux my phone just freezes. I'm not sure why exactly.
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HaRET also froze often for me. If you like android its worth flashing the NAND if you know how to.
what version of the zimage do you have.
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
great eclair build to try, donut has been reported to be a little less stable if you can stand not having a camera
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688880

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android 2.0

does any one know of any android 2.0 cabs for vogue
There is a port but it has very limited functionality. Also, it does not come in cab. You have to place a bunch of files on the root of your SD card and run a program called haret.exe which will load the root file system as well as the kernel to run the OS.
Go to the general vogue section. You will have all the necessary info there. This section is only for WM upgrades.
every time in try it that way it wont work and i follow the insructions exactly and i did find a cab and it worked i tryed switching out the files but every time i try to run it it says failed to find system.img even though it named right and on the root of my sd
The cab version is probably a year old now. The files that were in that version will no longer work with current roms. There isn't a current all-in-one installer that I've come across that will run current versions of Android.
The new system images come with a .sqsh extension.
As the previous poster mentioned, the Vogue general forum has more Android related information.
Also, in case you guys are interested, dzo just came out with a flashable version of Android for the Vogue. In other words, you will install Android to the NAND rather than the SD card and wipe out WM in the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
It would be nice if someone were to come up with a cab that installed android
But unfortunately it would be a lot of work and instead you have to run it on an sd card via haret (though its not that much more difficult)
And zen just came out with a new android 2.0 (eclair) build so you should go check that out!
kiwilime said:
It would be nice if someone were to come up with a cab that installed android
But unfortunately it would be a lot of work and instead you have to run it on an sd card via haret (though its not that much more difficult)
And zen just came out with a new android 2.0 (eclair) build so you should go check that out!
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Someone did make a cab. http://www.myhtcphone.com/Android120208.CAB from here http://www.myhtcphone.com/ it is old but it has been done and it does work.

[Android] _BETA_ Eclair Hero-KingxKxKlair-0.6 Updated with working Wifi 17 Dec

Starting this thread here for running this Eclair-Hero build on our Kaisers. Many thanks to all devs below!!
jamezelle said:
King Klair Hero 0.6
First and Foremost this build was ported by Mssmison and the ril(radio interface layer), and audio libraries were written by Vilord!!! im pretty sure the gps library was written by Srwalter. vilord may have helped port it to eclair. (will get back to you on that). without DZO we would still be using windows mobile "" but were not ""
To Donate: to these fine gents visit http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/androidhtc/wiki/WikiStart and scroll down to the donation links
B to the E to the T to the A
this is very beta, well almost alpha(first release for us vogue users so report any bugs that havent been mentioned in this post)
what works:
gps
calls
data
wifi
sync(dont sign in to google during htc wizard, wait till next boot!! you have been warned!!!)
market
gmail
what doesn't:
camera
bluetooth
gtalk
get more widgets
will add screenies later
ENJOY
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UPDATE 17 Dec:
Download the new rootfs below for working WiFi! Thanks enatefox!
Download:
system.sqsh [ver 0.6.01]
Eclair-ready__rootfs.img (rename to rootfs.img, of course)
eclairhero.user.conf (goes on your SD card in /android/conf)
OR if you have a swap partition on your SD card: eclairhero-swap_partition.user.conf (goes on your SD card as /android/conf/eclairhero.user.conf)
And if you don't have them already:
zImage-15-12-09 (the latest kernel from 15 Dec)
startup.txt (My personal HaRET startup.txt)
rootfs changelog:
Copied /init.cfg/init.eclairhero.rc to /init.cfg/init.eclairhero.kaiser.rc
Copied /init.cfg/init.eclair.rc to /init.cfg/init.eclair.kaiser.rc
Altered init to check that media folder exists in /sdcard/android/media instead of /sdcard/media
Altered init to support eclair.user.conf and eclairhero.user.conf
TIPS:
You will need a fresh data partition/data.img for this build. Don't forget to back up your old one first!
Go straight to version 0.6.01 as posted above, version 0.6 gives me weird SIM errors.
This build takes FOREVER (5-10min) to boot. It goes through and even attempts to make a number of thumbnails for your images during first boot. I suggest watching it over adb so you'll know when it's settled and ready for input.
The HTC widgets are not working with this build.
TaskKiller is an absolute must, like other Hero builds this one loves to keep apps open.
Hmm, this build has successfully rebooted itself twice, during heavy use. I wish I knew how that worked, so we could get it to reboot on command!
Wifi not working D:
Also if I put 15-02-19, Haret asks for 11-12-09 (where can I find the latest haret?)
Why does it happen?
Almost downloaded Hero, just got vanilla Eclair to boot the first time. I'll look into wifi. Maybe it's me but Eclair seems faster than Donut but I haven't messed with it much. That should make Hero much nicer.. will post back when I get further
rugalck said:
Wifi not working D:
Also if I put 15-02-19, Haret asks for 11-12-09 (where can I find the latest haret?)
Why does it happen?
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The startup.txt needs to be updated for the new zImage, or you can download my updated one from the first post.
@enatefox:
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Hero is very buggy, has too many problems to run daily for now. Overall Eclair Mike the fastest yet though! And the fonts are much better for qvga. Text autocomplete has issues.
polyrhythmic said:
The startup.txt needs to be updated for the new zImage, or you can download my updated one from the first post.
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Nah, don't worry, it was something really really stupid.
In the same file you said, it was like "zImage 11-12-09" so now I saved it saying just "zImage". Now works fine.
Waiting for wifi updates, great work guys!
BTW, is there any way to take screenshots?
damn bootloop. I'll look at this tomorrow but that's a promise . I don't know where these wifi files came from. I dropped in the ones that I've used and we'll see. Right now I'm fixing telnet and some other issues to post back with but it will take a little bit of time. We're going to get this working for daily use.
Here's working wifi for Eclair:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ezyzekjozj3
EDIT, I didn't get Hero to boot for me (looping) but I forgot to update Eclair Hero's conf file to match conf.eclair.kaiser.rc.. can someone either do that and repost or wait for me to finish some perm issues with it and I will upload one for Hero. Sorry about that.
I have got to be doing something wrong. I am using all of the files from the 1st post and the rootfs.img from enatefox's last post and this sat for 30 minutes. I even copied the user file to the sd card, to the /sdcard/CONF folder and into the /sdcard/Android/CONF folder and still it sits. I'll get a post of the last few lines up later to see if I just need to wait more or not. I am also using an empy 2GB Fat32 SD Card with the 1.71 radio. All other builds work but this one???
Any ideas?
I could mirror my files. They're working perfect, even wifi and etc (bluetooth not yet).
Folder Screenshot:
http://i46.tinypic.com/oqbo2c.jpg
Then you delete data.img to start from the beginning.
that could solve your issues
rugalck said:
I could mirror my files. They're working perfect, even wifi and etc (bluetooth not yet).
Folder Screenshot:
http://i46.tinypic.com/oqbo2c.jpg
Then you delete data.img to start from the beginning.
that could solve your issues
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If u don't mind, that would be great. I also just noticed that even after a 1/2 hr, a data.img file never was created
edit: wait, your system file in that picture is only 44.325 MB; the latest system file from post 1 is 89.3? Why so different?
Also
polyrhythmic said:
TIPS:
You will need a fresh data partition/data.img for this build. Don't forget to back up your old one first!
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What do you mean, clean data.img, do I need a clean one already on the SDCard for 1st run, so none present?
FYI, your 'conf' and 'android' folders should be named in lowercase, if they aren't already.
The only way we can tell what is wrong is to see whatever the console says before it freezes, or ADB logs if you can make it that far. Post whatever you've got.
j101399j said:
If u don't mind, that would be great. I also just noticed that even after a 1/2 hr, a data.img file never was created
edit: wait, your system file in that picture is only 44.325 MB; the latest system file from post 1 is 89.3? Why so different?
Also
What do you mean, clean data.img, do I need a clean one already on the SDCard for 1st run, so none present?
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If it wasn't created then... you wouldn't need to delete it, do you?
ROM Size: That's because I use mixed files from the different Eclair thread's.
It's a "package" of what worked fine on my device.
Most of the files are from this thread, but the system.sqsh is from this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
Mirror File: http://rapidshare.com/files/322793487/android.rar.html (up to 10 times, I don't have a premium account D: )
j101399j said:
What do you mean, clean data.img, do I need a clean one already on the SDCard for 1st run, so none present?
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You need to have one of two things:
If you are using the partitioned SD method, you need a fresh ext2 partition (newly created with a partition manager, or wiped using the Android install script)
If you are using the data.img file method, just make sure there's no data.img on your SD so the installer can create one during boot.
rugalck said:
ROM Size: That's because I use mixed files from the different Eclair thread's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
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thank you, will try
polyrhythmic said:
You need to have one of two things:
If you are using the partitioned SD method, you need a fresh ext2 partition (newly created with a partition manager, or wiped using the Android install script)
If you are using the data.img file method, just make sure there's no data.img on your SD so the installer can create one during boot.
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I competly forgot about needing all lowercase letters; as for the data.img file, that is what I though; Thank you
[EDIT]
That is so wierd; I had to place the system.img into the /sdcard/android folder and the use user file in these 3 places /sdcard /sdcard/android and /sdcard/android/conf
Now it works. Don't know what changed, but it works
j101399j said:
thank you, will try
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http://rapidshare.com/files/322793487/android.rar.html
I can almost guarantee you that the .conf file in your SD root and the .conf file in /android/ are ignored, try deleting them and just leave the .conf in the /conf/ directory. And yes, everything including the system.img/system.sqsh should go in the /android/ folder now.
I bet you can boot this Hero build, but it has a lot of bugs, you'll probably be happier with plain Eclair that rugalck linked.
hey guys ill update when king drops 0.7
keep getting stuck at this part:
ANDROID [ 30.906001] init: Unable
to open persistant property directory /data/property
error 2
How to fix this
thanks
RDilus said:
keep getting stuck at this part:
ANDROID [ 30.906001] init: Unable
to open persistant property directory /data/property
error 2
How to fix this
thanks
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If it's the first boot, make sure to have at least 300mb free in your SD card.
rugalck said:
If it's the first boot, make sure to have at least 300mb free in your SD card.
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not to be rude but im not stupid -.-'
i have like 5GB free...

[Q] Google Frame Work

Hey,
I got the scoot cyanogenmod RLS 4c and after few reboots,when I boot my device,its says google frame work is not responding.I cant tap wait and when i force close google frame work,all of the basic apps force close itself.
Sometimes it even says "system is not responding".
I also tried Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 [RLS15] and it says the same.
Any help?
That is data corruption. What kernel are you using and how is it installed.
Ive got 2.6.32
Ive got kernel DZO 2.6.32.I installed it via hard spl.
Thats why. Upgrade to the latest l1qu1d kernel in the thread stickied at the top. Also edit the kernel with atools to match your phone.
I got the new NBH.
I used the guide from l1q1d atools thread.
I tried using the ruu tools but it says the file is bad.
How to I install it?
Uri1234 said:
I got the new NBH.
I used the guide from l1q1d atools thread.
I tried using the ruu tools but it says the file is bad.
How to I install it?
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hey uri, use one of the builds and kernels im using in my signature they're working flawlessly on my Att Tilt, click on the word atools for a guide made by l1qu1d, its very detailed and easy to follow. Donut rls is the most stable one but its a little outdated cause my good friend warbyte has been a little busy right now, Scoot's froyo is the latest of the latest, but im still trying it, for the moment its workin nice and smooth like a delicious yogen früz cup (sorry bout the publicity moderators LOL)
How can I put the NBH in the root?
When I connect the phone to the computer using android,it doesnt work.
I tried to put the NBH on my SD but no file manager let me copy and paste.
It says i have no permission.
When the NBH will be copied,how do I install it?
Uri1234 said:
How can I put the NBH in the root?
I tried to put the NBH on my SD but no file manager let me copy and paste.
It says i have no permission.
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You have to use a SD card reader and copy it trough windows to the main directory of the SD (dont copy it to any folder) be shure its formated FAT32 and that the readonly switch isnt at the lock position. (the little switch at the side of any microSD to SD adapter)
Uri1234 said:
When the NBH will be copied,how do I install it?
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make sure you have HardSPL...
power off the phone, take out the stylus, with the stylus press the reboot button as you keep pressed the camera and power button, all at the same time! you will see a tri color screeen, then something like "kaisimg.nbh press the power button to start updating" so be obedient and press it!

[Q] android install..please help!!..ive read guides

hey guys, im sure this is getting old for some..but yes im a newbie, 8925 user. ive read the android install on htc by l1q1d, which i thought brought me in the correct position.. (not to say it wasnt a good guide, im sure it is..im a noob) i was wrong heres what im using and trying to accomplish, i sarted out reading "How to replace Windows Mobile with Android (Guide)" the first thread, i used jump spl 1.93 , flashed hard spl 3.56, flashed radio 1.71.09.01, then i used the htc on droid guide on atools to configure my kernal (which i loaded while in atools, i tried both 2.6.52 and 2.6.32-which is the current one im using )saved the KAISIMG.NBH in the root of my sd card(2GB HP i think its class 4) then set up my androidinstall.tgz(Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo RLS16 All Languages) in the atools mixer with the unique module update in atools V1.0.4 and extracted them together. saved the androidinstall.tgz in the /storagecard/andboot. then used BSE boot script editor, to setup my install-seq.sh which i also saved to the /andboot folder.
Heres my current specs again in line:
jump spl 1.93
hardspl 3.56
radio 1.71.09.01
kernal 2.6.32
Build Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo RLS16 All Languages with atools module update extracted together
when installing , the farthest point i reached was a succesful install of kernal, then reboot, install-seq.sh started---end result "could not determine file system size", failed, failed to format.
im currently trying to use nand for system and sd card for data , not sure what SWAP means?...
as for the seetings for fstab on atools ( which was the most confusing for me), i p
SYSTEM- NAND p2
DATA- sd partition p2
SWAP- sd partition p3
ive also tried system as nand p2, and data as nand p3 and swap at auto, cause i figured im having issues with my sd card , but then it said something about "install update module for kernal". im stumped any information you can helkp with would be greatly appreciated, here a few links to pics of the settings i made in atools, thanks alot
Hmmm, I have just tried that myself and I think it might be a bug in atools - I was changing nand partition sizes and the only combination I could get to work was Atools 1.0.4 with all fstab setting set to auto (I haven't tried Atools 1.0.5 yet, but 1.1.0 didn't work for any combination of settings for me)
Also I've never used the install-seq.sh so I can't help with that.
As a "good" starting point try using Atools 1.0.4 , latest kernel, don't change system/data partition sizes and leave all fstab settings on auto.
Flash that nbh then install through the boot menu (hold D-pad centre on boot)
If that works, then it will be easier to work from there to find out what exactly was causing the problem
huh, yup im learning as i go lol , i have tried to boot without using the install-seq file but have not tried to install with fstab on auto. what does that mean though, if its placed on auto is it going to just pick whatever i feel like at the moment , im assuming system will be on nand , but what about data. and also ive tried looking it up but what does SWAP mean? thanks alot im gonna try what u said
EDIT: ok i tried that out i got into the manual install by pressing the dpad center button, then i picked system and data to be installed on nand , then installed, then quit, then it, loaded for a while then it went to a droid screen and a animated green ball that seemed to be loading but just stayed there and did nothing. so i turned off the phone.... could it be because i didnt press 4. install update(do i even need to)? OR should i have installed system on nand then data on sd partition?
try again, and leave it a bit longer, the first boot of an un-odexed build can take aver long time, maybe about 10 minutes
swap is extra space for RAM, but on the NAND memory or SD card - like a swap partition on linux or a pagefile on windows. By default there is no swap partition used.
option 4: "install update" extracts the contents of an androidupdate.tar or .tgz file in the andboot folder, if you haven't got an androidupdate file you're trying to use then you don't need to use this option
allright ill try it now thanks man
i tried it again, but this time i used thoughtlesskyles not so super froyo rls18 and i waited , and it finally came up its installed ive checked a few things, calling works, wifi ,navigation maps some cool stuff. im gonna use this for a while then try my luck on some other endeavors. thanks again

[Q] Latest xdandroid for touch pro 2 how-to

This is my first for anything like this. I have a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2, and want to put the latest version of XDANDROID on it. But, have no clue which version or where to start. I would like to eventually get in to building on my own. Could someone please help get me started?
TheCasper said:
This is my first for anything like this. I have a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2, and want to put the latest version of XDANDROID on it. But, have no clue which version or where to start. I would like to eventually get in to building on my own. Could someone please help get me started?
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to get started, it really doesn't get any simpler than downloading the latest FRX03 from here:
http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads
(i'd recommend the RAR version, so you can unzip it into your SD card faster)
after that, just use WM's file explorer navigate to andboot and run haret.exe and you're "done"
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(optional) with a little bit of more effort, go into the top sticky of this forum, and update to the latest Kernel (1253). the current Kernel in FRX03 from Dec 20 is (i believe) 1232.
It's sort of that easy, but I had this same question before I did it too. It would have been nice if the FAQ said this explicitly.
If you download the rar archive, it will extract out in its own subdirectory, e.g.
XDAndroid2.2Froyo.XXxxXX/andboot/...
The first thing I do is move the andboot subdirectory to the root of the SD card.
The next thing is to edit the andboot/startup.txt file to match your phone. I guess you can use the XDAndroidStartup utility to take care of this instead, but the first time I tried that it failed because of that silly runtime dependency.
If you want to use the startup utility, and it gives you an error and refuses to run, you need to install the updated net framework like it talks about on this page:
http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/startup-utility
Thanks guy I will give it a try and post if I have questions. I love the design/setup of my TP2 but I hate the windows OS.
Need more help My phone is getting stuck and the XDANDROID start up image/video thing
TheCasper said:
Need more help My phone is getting stuck and the XDANDROID start up image/video thing
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Just let it do its thing, boots can take 5-10 min!
Kind of got it working, but have no idea how to use it fun stuff.
quick question, do I always have to have the sim card out when running ANDROID?
TheCasper said:
quick question, do I always have to have the sim card out when running ANDROID?
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If your phone is in GSM mode, you'll want it in. Check your startup.txt, you'll need force_cdma=0 in there.
If you're on CDMA, I believe you do have to have the SIM removed, yes. Also, the above command should have a 1 instead of 0.
^^ I'm not positive about that piece, but I do know that Android on our phones will only recognize one or the other - GSM or CDMA. Maybe we'll get it to recognize both one day, I saw an entry for it in the RIL...
I do know that I have CDMA. Plus how do update the kernel, where do I put it?
TheCasper said:
I do know that I have CDMA. Plus how do update the kernel, where do I put it?
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You simply replace your existing kernel and modules.
So delete the existing zImage/modules-xxxx.tar.gz, and put in the new zImage/modules-xxx.tar.gz. Don't rename the modules file, but be sure the zImage file is named just that - zImage.
The files go where you run haret.exe from - typically the root of the SD, or in /andboot.
UH-OH, not sure what happened. I reformated my SD card to do a new run since I found what I wanted. Now it seems like I can do everything but make calls in WM6.5. What do I do
TheCasper said:
UH-OH, not sure what happened. I reformated my SD card to do a new run since I found what I wanted. Now it seems like I can do everything but make calls in WM6.5. What do I do
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Android should have no effect on WinMo (assuming you're using haret/install on your SD). Plus, this really isn't a place to get help with WinMo.
Do the usual - soft reset, hard reset, reflash of stock ROM.
arrrghhh said:
Android should have no effect on WinMo (assuming you're using haret/install on your SD). Plus, this really isn't a place to get help with WinMo.
Do the usual - soft reset, hard reset, reflash of stock ROM.
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I know, I'm trying to put android on it and I am using haret from the SD card. I'm just not sure if this is will effect android or is a common problem. Thanks though, I have been going through those things while i wait.

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