Just got my desire friday. It's awesome! But the lags are killing me! I'd like JIT, SetCPU, power managment, cool themes and better music player, that's all! It should be easy, just to hack android to get access to ROOT...
But seriously, I don't want to lose any settings and apps I've set-up. Also the process is complicated, and there is nothing like "one click ROOT access". Although I already have Android SDK(for testing purposes), I am maybe just a bit lazy
So what do you think, to root or not to root.
had to bump so fast!? is here anyone reading this?!
Desire forums seem kinda dead today. Everyone's probably got the World Cup fever lol
I personally would say no, but that's my opinion - I wouldn't wanna risk bricking my new device, I should also say though that I have no previous Android experience, so I don't know about you. So I'm waiting, hopefully an official release isn't too far off, and if my carrier doesn't release it quick, I will be goldcarding
I would go ahead and do it, even though the above poster stated that there is a strong possibility of bricking your device, this is true, but there have been recent developments made for this kind of issue - there are now complete guides in the ROM dev section detailing how to unbrick your device, or even run recovery from your phone without connecting to the PC lessening your chances of bricking it, and there is a Recovery mod also, so I would say it's safe to go ahead and root/flash.
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
Dany0 said:
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
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Yes, if you attempt to a flash a custom rom that includes Apps2SD/A2SD, then you should backup the data on your SD card. The reason for this is because, with many (if not all) custom roms, excluding the Froyo roms, come with Apps2SD baked/cookef into the rom, requiring you to partition the SD card (which will also format your SD card, wiping everything) after flashing a custom rom. new rom then this will remove all data and apps, but nothing will be deleted on the sd card. I suggest you try backing up your sd card data to some storage media before attempting root and flashing to another rom.
You will notice that before flashing the rom of your choice, it is advised to wipe storage, cache, etc before flashing in recovery mode. After flashing, you can always perform a hard reset if you like, especially if you encounter any niggling bugs.
Yes, flashing will replace your stock rom image with the custom rom image.
You can flash Richard Trip's modified kernal, which allows you to perform undervolting and overclocking of the processor to run at faster or slower speeds. Overclocking will result in better performance but drain the battery quicker, Underclocking will save battery life.
Please read the second link in my sig for an in-depth explanation for rooting, flashing, and Apps2SD.
Note: if your phone is network branded then you will also be required a Gold Card and have an additional Micro SD card.
Note: if your rom comes with Apps2SD preinstalled, then do not install Apps2SD, only partition your sd card after flashing thr rom while still in recovery mode.
The process is:
Backup
Create Gold Card (if necessary)
Root
Place rom in root of sd card
Boot into recovery
Wipe everything
Flash rom in recovery
Partition sd card in recovery
Reboot
Restore backup to sd card.
That's all just too complicated, why is there no wizard application for it? I may make one, but it's still too complicated.
Can't you just open up cmd and type login: root pass: root?
To be honest, it's not too complicated, daunting at first, but when you read the nimbu guide (see my sig for Windows only method) for example, it makes perfect sense and it easy to follow. Just try it step-by-step and you will do it no probs.
All you have to remember is...
Dont install Apps2SD if it is already included in the custom rom you want to flash.
Create a Gold Card only if your phone is software branded. If it is generic, then you will not require a Gold Card.
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Ok I get myself a class 6(maybe class 10) 8gb card and try it, then I'll pick up wxPython and try to make a wizard
Just to add, for the Gold Card itself, you dont need to buy a large capacity sd card, even a 2GB one will do fine.
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I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
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Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
Dany0 said:
I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
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Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
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Ok matey, that sounds absolutely fine. You could even go for a Class 2 SD Card. I currently have a Transcend 8GB Class 6 but to be honest, I have not really noticed any differences in speed with the applications.
Yes, it's not so bad when you read the guide first, it's looks a lot at first but it's just because all the steps are appropriately broken down, which makes things easier to understand. Give it a stab and if you get any problems, just post back here and I will help you out, if necessary.
Good luck
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It's awesome! But the lags are killing me!
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is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
in future froyo 2.2 will there be root option?
I doubt it, HTC and Google would not want to have you "hacking" their phones... not that we do that on XDA
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is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
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unbranded
lagging everywhere, menus, camera, gallery, videos, games(especially), apps, market, browser, settings, sdcard explorer, music player, and when you swipe over the trackball in home screens fast... LAG
Okay I got stuck at error 170, where do I download the drivers? I don't even know which do I need, do I need the HTC Sync or what? Or should I uninstall some drivers?
thanks
Yes, you need HTC Sync installed (this is on your sd card or you can download the latest version via HTC website). Also, ensure that you have USB debugging enabled (Menu > Settings > Applications > Development).
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Hi All,
my 2p worth (for what it's worth)
I rooted my desire and installed apps2sd and all was going well, until I discovered dust (a lot)under my screen and it has to go back to voda.
As there still isnt an RUU for voda uk I have had to install a generic wwe rom. It took me 6 hrs, and the fantastic help I received at modaco, to unroot and reflash the rom.
To say it was brown trouser time is an understatement lol
The only reason I rooted was for apps2sd and seeing as FroYo is going to include that facility, I don't think I will root again in the future.
I'm not saying don't root, but just make sure you can unroot if you need to.
I hope this helps?
Daz.
I rooted the same day it came out but only because i wanted paid apps available. And now its there i definately do not wanted to unroot
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got 155 unkown error
What!?
EDIT:
not bricked.... phew
EDIT2:
Okay got to the wiping, tried to do the flash but it said I had no zip file on the sd card, so I thought that in the end I need a goldcard, btw can someone tell me what happens if you have branded phone but no goldcard? thanks, so back to what I was writing, so I downloadedthe hex editor, almost got to inserting the image, when i remembered that I already formatted the card already... boom! Of course it wasn't there! soo.. loading up hoping that FAT32 is still okay...
EDIT3:
phew... ROOTING!! yay ^^
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Hi guys i need more space for apps, Can root be reversed i.e reset the whole phone like it was oringinally?
I got my phone last tuesday and all i want it apps2sd, do i have change the HTC firmware or does that stay and it hacks it and allows me to added apps2sd option?
Also am i able to restore it back to original ? if i brick it while trying to do this is there way to unbrick?
thank you from an andriod newbie
I've just flashed the apps2sd update over on the original firmware after rooting and the phones constantly rebooting at the quietly brilliant screen
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I've just flashed the apps2sd update over on the original firmware after rooting and the phones constantly rebooting at the quietly brilliant screen
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really, are you able to revert to original state?
managed to install custom rom with apps2sd on it and its working after 3rd attempt thank god! Apps2sd aint working on the rom either though (Pays-ROM Desire with Sense v1.4)...dont know whats going on.....wonder if its cause its an ext4 extension?.....
My advice to anyone is to NOT install APPS2SD, just wait for an official FroYo build to be leaked and installed on the Desire. It's full of issues at the moment.
Agreed. Wait for your sweeties
managed to install custom rom with apps2sd on it and its working after 3rd attempt thank god! Apps2sd aint working on the rom either though (Pays-ROM Desire with Sense v1.4)...dont know whats going on.....wonder if its cause its an ext4 extension?.....
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Ext4 is not supported
My advice to anyone is to NOT install APPS2SD, just wait for an official FroYo build to be leaked and installed on the Desire. It's full of issues at the moment.
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A2sd works fine, but it has a lot of downfalls. here are some examples:
not easy for beginners
Sd cards have to be in the device to boot
Cannot access apps with sd card mounted
Access to apps can be laggy due to card transfer rates
Etc....
If you guys are new to android, you're probably in the "download everything" phase. It's not realistic to keep every single thing. Be reasonable and you should be fine.
A2sd will be a thing of the past once 1gb+ roms become the norm.
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A2sd works fine, but it has a lot of downfalls. here are some examples:
not easy for beginners
Sd cards have to be in the device to boot
Cannot access apps with sd card mounted
Access to apps can be laggy due to card transfer rates
Etc....
If you guys are new to android, you're probably in the "download everything" phase. It's not realistic to keep every single thing. Be reasonable and you should be fine.
A2sd will be a thing of the past once 1gb+ roms become the norm.
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Or when FroYo is released
I still don't know how they'll manage to get APPS running from a FAT partitioned SDCARD?
How will they manage to make the Sdcard usable for apps and readable by Windows and other operating systems which don't support ext2/3?
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How will they manage to make the Sdcard usable for apps and readable by Windows and other operating systems which don't support ext2/3?
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Correct me if Im wrong, but the only reason you have to use ext filesystems for A2SD is because that is what the 2.1 expects??
I can't see why you would need an ext filesystem for the APK files. The 'special' permissions on apps are not provided by the filesystem. Maybe cache and app data would require some level of security, but at least the APKs should happily live on FAT32.
Fingers crossed! I hope they sort something out.
Excellent advice, eViL D: I was a bit nervous about trying and Android phone in the first place but took the plunge due to the fantastic reviews on the Desire. I absolutely love this phone and I managed to root it without any problems. Fortunately I read about the A2SD issues before I installed it. Whew!!!
Being a complete newbie to Android, I am in the 'keep everything' phase but am starting to realise that there are a lot of apps that I simply don't need and probably won't use very often anyway. I reckon that if I find that I need them later, then I'll install them then. I've gotten rid of a number of apps and am really happy with the phone as it is. For now, I'm going to leave well enough alone. Will definitely keep an eye on the A2SD issue more out of curiosity than the need to use it.
I really wish I had the knowledge to help solve this problem and wish everyone who is working on it the best of luck.
Hello everyone,
I just got myself a new HTC Desire with Vodafone Branding.
HBOOT : 0.800
Software number: 1.19.161.5 (I believe this should be Android 2.1)
Kernel version : 2.6.29-b7e82785 (I guess this is still HTC original)
I wanna root my phone and if I guess that I can do further, I am also thinking of using another rom.
My main concern is that the internal memory can not fit any more apps and I still want to add more, after searching in the internet I found out that I need to root and/or to use other rom.
Second concern...I just wanna learn..
I have downloaded Unrevoked3 and the H-Boot USB driver.
From what I have read, I am all set for rooting (gonna do this tomorrow evening after work and after I have calmed down a bit, I am a bit nervous cause this is my first time ).
I have removed the HTCsync but still keeping the drivers.
I also know that I will need ClockworkMod. Make EXT2/3/4 partition with at least 512MB (I would like to make it 1gb) and optional SWAP (perhaps I will make it 256mb, do I really need SWAP?).
So, please teach me on :
1. Now about the rom, I need an Android 2.2 with optimum stability and speed, to tell you the fact, I don't even now which one and where to get it.
2. Beside the main rom, do I need also the camera and radio rom to get them running? again where to get them? How do I install them? The same way as installing the main rom (from HBOOT recovery)? Before or after installing the main rom?
3. How to make the back up of my current rom, setting, and apps? I don't have much apps yet but perhaps I would need the backup if something went wrong.
I still a whole bunch of questions but I guess those will do for now.
Please be kind and help me one this one pleaassssseeeeeeeee...
Anyway...thanks in advance.
Read in development.
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1. This thread has all the rom's in it. It's all about personal taste but if you like sense i would recommend Leedroid to start with.
2. When you come form 2.1 you will need to upgrade your Radio, if you OTA upgrade to 2.2 before rooting you do not have to update your radio but you can. A link to the radio thread is also in the above link.
3.
Once you are rooted with unrevoked you can preform a nandroid form recovery or you can download Rom Manager from the market and backup via that.
If you just want to backup apps you can use titanium backup or you could sync your apps with appbrain and reinstall them.
About the ext partition, i think swap is not necessary and if you want a 1 gig partition use Gparted
Thank you very much for the answer.
I will look into those first.
If I found any trouble, I will ask you guys again.
Thank you again.
First, I wanna say thank you again.
I have read some review about the LeeDroid. It sounds very good.
I will pick LeeDroid as my first after market rom.
I will thus flash (.zip files are already downloaded in the PC) :
Leedroid 2.2e
Latest Radio ROM; 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.27
LeeDroid 2.2e Kernel Boot Fix (Just to be sure, because I don't how my desires proc can be OCed)
DSP Manager.
My last questions:
- Is there any particular order which rom I should flash first?
Example : LeeDroid - Radio - Kernel Fix - DSP manager
-Can I flash them all with only 1 reboot (flash everything and choose reboot only once in H-Boot recovery menu)? or Do I have to flash only one at a time, reboot, and flash the next one and reboot again?
I'm not sure about radio's.
But if you flash leedroid 2.2e you need to flash it and after it (without reboot) flash the bootfix kernel.
Addons and theme's should be flash after the first full boot.
that is the correct order
you must flash the rom first, reboot, then flash the rest all in one go. REMEBER the first reboot is important!!
Got it!
Radio (I need the radio rom cause my radio rom is old, belongs to original 2.1) , Leedroid main rom and Kernel Fix in one go, then 1st reboot.
And then the other addons in one go.
and of course reboot again.
Thanks a lot guys!
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Got it!
Radio (I need the radio rom cause my radio rom is old, belongs to original 2.1) , Leedroid main rom and Kernel Fix in one go, then 1st reboot.
And then the other addons in one go.
and of course reboot again.
Thanks a lot guys!
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check here for improved gaming performance, you can download leedroid kernel with boot fix, SD speed fix and GPU driver patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825304
h3llb3nd4 why is it important to reboot after rom flash?
It needs to install the boot images for the Rom.
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lots of things came up to me this weekend, I am not able to flash my Desire.
Since I am doing this for the first time, I would like to have a quite time for myself alone, so that I am calm during the flashing just in case if something went wrong.
well...I will do it (I hope) on next friday evening...
I will write again the progress next week.
Untill now all I have done is the rooting via Unrevoked3, and installing the rom manager from android market. I haven'T even formatted the sd card.
Thanks again.
OK, Go to hell with quiteness.
I can not wait hehehehe just to anxious to start flashing.
and.....
I did it...it works...
Thank you
Flashing is not that hard...hehehehe...
I have played with LeeDroid and I have to say...This can do a lot more than the original.
Hmmm...I a fan of Sense although some say it slows down the phone.
I have tried the HTC HD ROM on my Desire, I like the new sense but too bad the camera still doesn't work. I have to go back to LeeDroid just because of the camera problem.
|OP|,
I joined this forum because I am a newbie just like you (before you got your Jedi-Flashing Wings).
I too have a HTC Desire running Android 2.2 (Kernel 2.6.32.15). I have exactly the same problem as you had - I've run out of room for apps on internal memory and the standard Froyo apps2sd thing can't shift anything else to the SD card.
I'm really interested to learn how your phone handles apps now. Does your phone think it has 1 gig of internal memory? Are you able to shift every app to the SD card? Did you have to give up your HTC apps and widgets?
I would really appreciate any feedback.
Cheers!
Yup...limited room for installing apps is my main or perhaps my only reason of flashing my desire with modified rom.
- About the 1GB thing, well I didn't do it since I wanna try the flashing procedure just as it is described in youtube desire rom flashing guide (not confident enough to do it all alone), and it is shown in youtube using only 512MB
But, I will try it later (planned on december after I finish my university assignment).
-Well, I have flashed and used it only for about a day or two, so I am still not 100% sure, but all the apps I have downloaded and installed are all going to the SDCard. I guess all of them will eventually go to the SDCard.
-HTC Apps and widgets? Everything is there, as far as I noticed until now.
Now, I am enjoying the DSP equalizer, apps to SDCard (16GB ), but still afraid of OCing.
SMS, WLAN, Camera, E-Mail, etc. seem to work smooth, no bugs found so far.
My Desire seems to run faster than with the original rom, but it is just my subjectiv comparison.
The phone won't 'see' your EXT partition but when you install apps the quoted storage will barely go down...I have a 1GB EXT3 partition on my SD card for when I use a custom ROM, its 16GB so I don't miss the space as I'm on a stock ROM at present and don't use many apps
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The phone won't 'see' your EXT partition but when you install apps the quoted storage will barely go down...I have a 1GB EXT3 partition on my SD card for when I use a custom ROM, its 16GB so I don't miss the space as I'm on a stock ROM at present and don't use many apps
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If the storage are going down or used slowly, is it worth to have 1GB as EXT3 or just leave it be at 512MB?
Depends on the ammount of unneccessary apps you plan to install
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Depends on the ammount of unneccessary apps you plan to install
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Hahahahahahaha....
You got that one right on the spot.
Most of my apps are games.
Games are not considered as necessary apps.
I will stick with 512MB
Thanks EddyOS and |OS|,
This sounds awesome! I've got 14 MB remaining on my internal memory and a long list of apps I still want to play with.
With this news I'm going to jump into the whole flashing/rooting thing (incidently why do both of these terms have sexual overtones?).
LeeDroid here I come!
|O2| did you use the Unrevoked root method? Could you possibly post the youtube link that you mentioned? I am, as you were, quite anxious about turning my beloved Desire into an expensive paperweight so any extra tips would be very appreciated. (I have heard that it is fairly simple and has a very low risk but I'm still a bit hesitant)
Thanks again! What a wonderfully helpful community this is!
hello all. i just recenlt bricked my galaxy s telus fascinate and got a desire replacement. i managed to get the root working without a issue (was superscared because of previous brick). now im looking for a rom. a good rom. coming from touch wiz, sense is mint. i love it.
so i want something that like stock sense with sense widgets without all the bloat and hopefully a proper app2sd (the stock app2sd is only moving like 1/3 of the data to sd and 2/3 is stayin in internal storage) . i heard desire hd roms r good but i dont really see the upside cause i dont know much about the phone yet just the OS. im runnin froyo 2.2 with hboot 93.0001.
any info would b mint. thx in advance
ps. only 1 day in, and the desire is running laps around the fascinate in every aspect except afew hardware issues like
-no internal sd card
-psx4droid is alot slower but i do own a hacked psp so no biggy
-and the app2sd sucks considering i went from 2 gigs internal storage to 133 mbs
but interface rocks. awaiting some opinions
You may want to take a gander at this thread: http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/231930-desire-index-everything-desire-here.html
It has links to all the usual suspects when it comes to the different ROMs available, and once you get familiar with the ones that are out there you can do more detailed searches to see which one you may like the most. After that just download and get to flashing. As long as you nandroid backup before flashing anything you can always go back.
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You may want to take a gander at this thread: http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/231930-desire-index-everything-desire-here.html
It has links to all the usual suspects when it comes to the different ROMs available, and once you get familiar with the ones that are out there you can do more detailed searches to see which one you may like the most. After that just download and get to flashing. As long as you nandroid backup before flashing anything you can always go back.
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im looking for something exact replica of sense with a proper data2sd, bloatware removed. i heard desire hd roms r nicer but i really cant tell from videos on youtube. also i find sense alil bit slow in the home screen scrolling. is there any sense desire hd roms that can fix these issues?
LeeDroid 2.3d - superfast sense based 2.2 rom, with the stuff you need.
Baadnwz 1.8c- i'm using it now, a great HD port, but not as fast as the LD.
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LeeDroid 2.3d - superfast sense based 2.2 rom, with the minal stuff you need.
Baadnwz 1.8c- i'm using it now, a great HD port, but not as fast as the LD.
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what about kernels? i had a overclocked voodoo kernel on my sgs and it ran games and emulators amazingly. ff9 on ps4drioid was running like 95% speed. any speed kernels or voodoo kernels available? and allso i hear the best way to manage storage is data and app2sd +. how do i go about installing that? b4 or after i flash the rom?
1. The Desire has an Adreno GPU, not a PowerVR SGX - so the graphics performance will be MUCH more slower, than the GS'. Also I use this kernel, gives me the best performance.
2. Most custom ROMs have that feature preinstalled (so installs automatically, when flashing the ROM), just make sure you have partitioned your SD Card (fat32+ext 2/3/4).
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1. The Desire has an Adreno GPU, not a PowerVR SGX - so the graphics performance will be MUCH more slower, than the GS'. Also I use this kernel, gives me the best performance.
2. Most custom ROMs have that feature preinstalled (so installs automatically, when flashing the ROM), just make sure you have partitioned your SD Card (fat32+ext 2/3/4).
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how do i go about partitioning the sd card? lm fat with a fresshreformat from my pc. now im quite sure ext/4 is the safest and most stable partition to use and 2 being the worst. on sgs, voodoo did the ext/4 for me and didnt have to do the work. so im confused on this part since ive seen nothing with a voodoo tag on it since i joined. and voodoo had to be deactivated everytime u flashed new software. does that still apply here>?
Use Gparted or easus partition for that.
Create a FAT32 partition first and then an ext4 partition (both primary).
You have to look for a2sd+ here in the ROMs description to make it work (LeeDroid definiately works). Make sure you have partitioned the SD card then just flash the ROM (of course nandroid backup first & full wipe) and it will go, you have to do nothing. It is an auto-script.
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Use Gparted or easus partition for that.
Create a FAT32 partition first and then an ext4 partition (both primary).
You have to look for a2sd+ here in the ROMs description to make it work (LeeDroid definiately works). Make sure you have partitioned the SD card then just flash the ROM (of course nandroid backup first & full wipe) and it will go, you have to do nothing. It is an auto-script.
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k im donwloapding gparted partition. how do i do this? i have a nandroid backup of stock with root and it says i will lose my data. and how does the program work? im finding the htc hacking to have alot more work involved then sgs. how do i backup my nandroid? can i copy and paste to my pc?do i partition thru the phone or pop the card out and put it directly into the pc?
how do i use this program?
A very good tutorial how to use Gparted, if you have no idea.
+Make sure you create a boot CD/USB correctly
How did you root your desire? With Unrevoked? What custom recovery do you have CWM or Amon RA?
How to make a nandroid backup.
Also search youtube and this forum on HOW to use a custom recovery.
k so i used some windows partition creator and partitioned fat32 with a 1.5 gb ext3 partition. flashed rcsmixhd. looks mint. running good so far. got the telus network working. only thing i really need 2 know is how does the app2sd+ work? does it automatically install it too sd? or do i haveta use a app? or can i go thru the settings applicqations manage move to sd card? this is all i have left todo so plz advice is a must
nvm i looked around and foundout titanium backup shows apps2sd drive. sweet. thx 4 all the help so far desire has a large lead on the fascinate. looks so beautiful
Hi all, my first post here, i cant help it but i am nearly 65, bald and retired !.
I treated myself to a Desire last week, un-branded, £10 month with Tescos.
I have been Rooted a few days now, i want to Flash a Rom next, but with so many out there, where do i start ?.
At a guess i do believe i should try CyanogenMOD 7 , but please bear in mind i am completely new to this Smartphone business and i am slow in picking things up, so is "CM7" a bit too much for my grey matter, or am i putting obsticles in the way that dont really exist !
I was very pleased with my faultless rooting, and i have rehearsed the Rom Flashing continuosly using Rom Manager which looks as if it does all the dirty work for me.
If there is a ROM for noobies i havent found it yet !!!!
Tim
You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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Hi Mr Ghost, i am well pleased somebody replied, CM7 is simply the one that crops up the most. The word Sense, does this by any chance mean HTC Sense ? so if a Rom doesnt have Sense that must mean it doesnt have many or any of the features that make my current ROM more friendly to use.
If CM7 doesnt have SENSE does that mean that the keyboard doent do Landscape mode ?
LEEDROID yeah i could have a go at that one, TA ......... i dont really want to have to partition my SD card, i read about a Goldcard if you partition etc. which doesnt sound v. good.
O yes, i found that Rom Manager Backs Up my original ROM and Wipes, does it ONLY wipe the phones memory ?
thanks for you help
tim
Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Thanks, so it is LEEDROID for starters thanks buddy, i still dont know what a Goldcard is though, perhaps i dont need to know LOL.
One small problem, LEEDROID isnt available in the list of roms in Rom Manager, i suppose i shall have download it "manually" and get it in the relevant Rom Manager Folder, great sorted i should be able to do that.
I have Titanium Backup Pro as well so its best if i Backup "All user apps" that should be sufficient, yeah ? and itll be no good Backing up ANYTHING ELSE, becuase if restored it would mess up LEEDROID, am i correct with that assumption ?
tim
Yes i would say start with Leedroid.
Best thing is to only back up user apps, i never back up anything else. Most likely it will mess something up.
The goldcard is only needed when using a RUU with branded devices, for normal flashing you don't need one.
Just download the Leedroid noA2SD version and put in on your sd, not in any folder just on the sd. Then in rom manager go to install rom form sd and find the zip file.
Edit: looks like the site went down, here's another link. http://db.tt/FBKcMZD
Thanks for that info pal, youre a star.
I havent seen any mention on this site (although i havent searched for it yet) of the battery not lasting very long, however, off topic i suppose, and you can bollock me for that if you like,:-
for internet on my Desire at home i always use my home WiFi, my off topic question is, does WiFi take more out of the battery than using my Providers GSM/WCDMA connection ? i have hardly made a dent on my Providers Data allowance.
tim
What uses more power depends a bit on how strong your 3g signal is, if it's weak it will probably use more power on mobile data and if it's strong, wifi will use more data but this is no gonne make a significant difference on your battery life.
Usually the battery life gets better after some time, also let your battery drain once until the phone powers itself off and then charge it, while it's off, till it's full. Then use it normally again.
Absolutely brilliant Pal, thanks for sticking with me answering my questions for the last hour or two, it was really good of you thanks.
I will definitely try that with my battery next time it needscharging up, thanks.
I will report back tommorrow whether or not i still have a fully functioning phone, LOL. i feel far more confident about "doing it" now, afterall i'm not likely to be "doing it" with anything else ROFL !!!
tim
phew i had difficulty in locating the file, i eventually found the Leedroid Rom here
http://leedroid.com/bravo-roms
I also saw a "radio" file for the same Rom, dam, i have downloaded the latest version and will put it on my SD card the same place as the Rom file in the ROOT directory.
Until i got an Android Phone, i had only used Windows in all it's various versions, of course in Windows, the word ROOT simply means the Top (or bottom?) of the Folder Tree
but of course the same word can mean several hundred pounds when getting it wrong
PS.. do i need to do anything with this extra feature:-
•Re-added “Mod install location” to No A2SD build•
Tim
Root of the sd means not in a folder.
If you are currently on android 2.2 there is no real need to change radio. If you do change radio make sure you are absolutely sure what you are doing.
And you shouldn't have anything to do regarding the mod installation location.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks that is what i was trying to say !.
Ok on the other two things, ta
Tim
Leedroid Flashed yippee
Thanks for all your help Mr Ghost, i am happily using the Leedroid Rom now, all went smoothly, the battery is still going down preety quickly, i am getting a new battery from HTC any day now, which may perform better than my original ?, but at least i shall have a spare LOL.
Tim
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
germsandbugs said:
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
timmy toad said:
Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
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Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
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Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
williamj1 said:
Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
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AAAhhhh, Now you have completely befuddled me !, i dont know what you mean by N1 table table scripts in terminal etc.
I think i will stay as i am thanks, i am not quite so serious at getting my hands dirty as most of you are !. LOL
tim
Hi all,
I've had my EVO 4g for nearly 2 years now and recently stepped up to the 3D.
Over the last summer I had a terrible problem with my EVO rebooting using two different MicroSD 8 GB cards taking it into the Sprint store they said both cards are defective. So I bought a 4GB card and it worked nearly flawlessly since then (maybe a reboot once a month)
I had not rooted my phone until last fall when I bought a WIFI only iPad and needed to get the wireless tether option enabled...
Not knowing much about rooting or flashing ROMS and any of that stuff, I followed a sticky guide to rooting and went with the Warm 2.2 ROM from last fall.
When I got my EVO 3D I decided to sell my EVO 4G to my 20 year old granddaughter, I did a Wipe and installed CleanROM 2.0 which had rave reviews and I thought it would be as close to stock as possible.
I hadn't gotten around to wiping the SD card is it is 3/4 filled with my junk on it still.
2 days into her having the phone it is rebooting a dozen times a day for her.
Not good. I'm not sure if it's the new ROM or a corrupted spot on the SD card now?
If I just reflash the CleanROM 2.0 and then have the phone format the SD card might that clear it up?
No point doing a nandroid backup since that would have all my apps that wouldn't work for her, correct?
She really doesn't care about it being rooted, so what would be the easiest way to get it work for her in a stable way?
I apologize in advance if the solution seems easy to people hear, it seems complicated to me.
Thanks Crodley
Personally I would do a complete wipe and do a fresh partition on the SD card to remove anything you had on there. After that I would suggest installing MikG 3.11 as it is probably the most stable of the Sense ROMS.
I try other ROMs but keep going back to MikG as it performs flawlessly for me with no restarts or crashes of any kind.
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Personally I would do a complete wipe and do a fresh partition on the SD card to remove anything you had on there. After that I would suggest installing MikG 3.11 as it is probably the most stable of the Sense ROMS.
I try other ROMs but keep going back to MikG as it performs flawlessly for me with no restarts or crashes of any kind.
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Sounds like a good plan. Partition the SD card? Not sure how to do that part. I can do a google I guess.
Thanks
Crodley said:
Sounds like a good plan. Partition the SD card? Not sure how to do that part. I can do a google I guess.
Thanks
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The option is in the recovery but there are some easy to follow guides around the site.
Here are the basic settings and it's pretty straight forward in the recovery.
- Swap partition = 0mb ( If you must have it but doubtful, 32mb should be enough.)
- Ext partition = 512mb to 1gb (MAX 2Gb if you have loads of APPs)
- Upgrade ext2 to an ext3 partition (but not 4).
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GUIDE <<< It's quick and easy.
ItsLasher said:
The option is in the recovery but there are some easy to follow guides around the site.
Here are the basic settings and it's pretty straight forward in the recovery.
GUIDE <<< It's quick and easy.
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Thanks yet again, I just woke up and am off to work, I'll give it a try went I get home and let you know how it went.
Crodley
You shouldn't need to partition the card if you are going to have mikg on there.
It sounds like your granddaughter doesn't need anything that would require any extra steps on her part.
Just reformat the card so that its a fresh start. Put any ROM on there (mikg is pretty much maintenance free). And boot it up and test it out before you give it to her...
A partition would be necessary only if you or your granddaughter have a huge amount of apps. Something tells me that she's not a power user...
~ I'm a fungi
Your other option is that if she isn't going to use any root functions, just unroot it for her. You don't have to bother with s-on or relocking the bootloader, just run an RUU to get it back to stock. This should eliminate any problems, unless the rebooting issue is a hardware problem. You also don't have to worry about her messing anything up with root, since she won't have that ability.
Of course if she uses any of the root functions - wireless tether, overclocking/undervolting, removing bloatware, etc, then this isn't the way to go. You could just flash a rooted stock rom as well.
In my opinion, if someone doesn't know what to do with root, or if they don't use it, they shouldn't have it. It'll just complicate things.
Thanks for all the information, I wiped the SD card and installed the Miks rom so far all smooth as silk.
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Thanks for all the information, I wiped the SD card and installed the Miks rom so far all smooth as silk.
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Nope still rebooting about a dozen times a day, we're going to swap the 4gb sd card with an old 8gb card and see if that helps...
Well, it seems the 4GB card was the culprit. After swapping in another card, no reboots. Yay!