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just rooted via Pauls guide - how to get apps2sd if not using linux? + 1 question, us

the guide worked great.
it's gone to 1.15, is it safe to do the OTA update it's asked me about? it won't remove root? or more importantly trash my desire?
** i did search on the root thread about apps2sd but it refers to using linux (which i dont have)
i did have a look at the nimbu root guide, which includes an addition to add apps2sd, but it's for an older boot loader .75 and i'm on .80
can i just follow that or do i have to flash a new rom on there?
basically, i'm happy with 2.1 really till the official comes out, just badly need a2sd.
thanks guys

tommo123 said:
the guide worked great.
it's gone to 1.15, is it safe to do the OTA update it's asked me about? it won't remove root? or more importantly trash my desire?
** i did search on the root thread about apps2sd but it refers to using linux (which i dont have)
i did have a look at the nimbu root guide, which includes an addition to add apps2sd, but it's for an older boot loader .75 and i'm on .80
can i just follow that or do i have to flash a new rom on there?
basically, i'm happy with 2.1 really till the official comes out, just badly need a2sd.
thanks guys
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hi im on bootloader .80 and used the files at the nimbu tutorial and it works fine, just drop the zip onto ur sd card and flash it from recovery, make sure u wipe ur device first tho

tommo123 said:
the guide worked great.
it's gone to 1.15, is it safe to do the OTA update it's asked me about? it won't remove root? or more importantly trash my desire?
** i did search on the root thread about apps2sd but it refers to using linux (which i dont have)
i did have a look at the nimbu root guide, which includes an addition to add apps2sd, but it's for an older boot loader .75 and i'm on .80
can i just follow that or do i have to flash a new rom on there?
basically, i'm happy with 2.1 really till the official comes out, just badly need a2sd.
thanks guys
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If you do the OTA update you will lose root, so therefore lose A2SD.
Why don't you just install a custom 2.1 rom with A2SD already in it?

Rolf can you post some roms with apps22sd with sense please i have bbeen looking but i cant find any apart from modacos

This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+

j_simon208 said:
This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+
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Hi, I've rooted my phone earlier, and have tried a bunch of different rom's - in all this going back and forth, my bootloader has been upgraded from 0,75 to 0,80
If i now put this Modaco rom on my phone,and then when there is a OTA from HTC can this be installed on the phone (i know the rooting dissapears) and my phone will be unrooted and like out of the box?
Regards from sunny Denmark

faddys123 said:
Rolf can you post some roms with apps22sd with sense please i have bbeen looking but i cant find any apart from modacos
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Try THIS ONE

j_simon208 said:
This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+
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thanks.
i presume to get apps2sd+ ii need to go through the online kitchen?
would rom manager let me flash this one?
e.g Pays-ROM Desire Sense v2.0 Dalvik+A2SD (RockSolid)+(BraveSoul OC)[06/06/10]

ok, i tried that rom in rom manager, and selected to clear cache/data. it reboots,but i get a drive image with a '?' above it. tried twice and no joy
am i missing something obvious here?

j_simon208 said:
This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+
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I did exactly this and I'm very very happy. The extras include A2SD+, WiFi Tethering, Wavesecure and much more.. best thing I've done in the past few days
Hopefully this weekend I will do something interesting that doesn't involve my phone.. oh except it will cos I'll need to use it to take pictures, phone people and find people and possible provide a portable WiFi hotspot if the need arises lol!

[Q] Root Desire

Can someone explain me please what is a root Desire?What is the different between root desire and non root desire?why must someone root his desire?
thank you for your time

http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/07/rooting-a-glossary-of-terms/#more-395
Rooting
This is the process of applying root to your phone. Basically think of it as unlocking all the options of your phone. By default you are a user, and you have limited privilages to do things on your phone. You cannot really modify any internal aspects of the phone. Rooting gives you a super user access, effectively giving you extra permissions and more freedom to play around with your phone. Things such as taking screenshots, backing up all data to do with an app or overclocking your phones processor.

Thank you for your quick answer.can you please tell me how can i root my desire?i am using android 2.2.
also if i root my desire,can i go back to the oficial?
thank you

You can't at the moment. You'll have to wait until someone finds a way to root 2.2

sbdags said:
You can't at the moment. You'll have to wait until someone finds a way to root 2.2
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can i still install the OTA_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8-1.21.405.2_release4dua3bcrut4wrv30.zip
on my unbranded,unlocked and just rooted 2.1 Desire manually by put it on my SDcard and flashing?

Root is not a great advantage to the average user and tbh if you need to ask then the advantages of rooting will be extreamly minor. The backup is probably the best feature of being rooted. The OTA updates will need to be done via the SD Card Manually if you root but its very easy and should not put you off rooting.

jamesmcuk said:
Root is not a great advantage to the average user and tbh if you need to ask then the advantages of rooting will be extreamly minor. The backup is probably the best feature of being rooted. The OTA updates will need to be done via the SD Card Manually if you root but its very easy and should not put you off rooting.
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Cheers for the fast answer.Im ok with rooting i just wanted to be sure if the OTA froyo from HTC with Sense can still be uploaded manually via SDcard and from your reply,it seems like it's possible.

yeah it is I was wondering the same thing 2 days ago here is my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748105

Agreed you can pretty much live without root if you don't want to customise, but I use it for:
1) Moving / removing apps from system in recovery
2) Flashing fixes like wake on menu button or an updated hosts files so no ads appear on phone, or custom icons / frameworks
3) Allows flashing of custom Roms with many features not found on stock Roms
4) Allows Nandroid backups and recoveries to roll back easily
5) Allows apps to be run that require root; Titanium Backup, Cache Manager, Rom Manager, Root Explorer, Terminal Emulator, etc

jamesmcuk said:
yeah it is I was wondering the same thing 2 days ago here is my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748105
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How's the froyo experience for you?Encountering any signal bar/radio issues or any wifi signal drops?How about laggings generally?

nasimdejai said:
How's the froyo experience for you?Encountering any signal bar/radio issues or any wifi signal drops?How about laggings generally?
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Depends which Rom you use. The OTA ones suck imo as there are too many bugs. Try Neophyte 1.6 first as it is very stable and quick.

sbdags said:
Depends which Rom you use. The OTA ones suck imo as there are too many bugs. Try Neophyte 1.6 first as it is very stable and quick.
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Can I use the same method as the OTA to install Neophyte 1.6 or is it some other method?Cheers

You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium
This assumes you used revoke to root the phone in the first place.

Actually you need some things to:
http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
some basics.
IS IT Possible to use ROM MANAGER and not RECOVERY MODE?

nasimdejai said:
How's the froyo experience for you?Encountering any signal bar/radio issues or any wifi signal drops?How about laggings generally?
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only been using it a day or so but its all good right now. I wouldn't say the speed improvements are massive because although in technical terms they maybe e.g 1 sec becomes 1/4 sec its not massively noticeable. it does feel snappy though! my wifi is spot on as is my mobile network using the roms i detailed on my thread posted above on my virgin mobile uk handset. I didn't try and find a virgin mobile rom btw so i assume this will work on all desires. Only thing so far with Froyo is my Phonelogger app wants to force close all the time but i guess there will be an update for it soon enough.

kmetek said:
Actually you need some things to:
http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
some basics.
IS IT Possible to use ROM MANAGER and not RECOVERY MODE?
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Great guide BTW!

sbdags said:
You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium
This assumes you used revoke to root the phone in the first place.
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I used revoked3 and how do i go about repartitioning,is it via PC or directly on the phone?

how to repartition your sd card?

forget all that partitioning nonsense after all the reasons for sending it back are liekly to be broken screen, wont charge, buttons faulty, or touch screen defective all of which will probably result in you not being able to restore to factory anyway!
If you are going to root then grab the bull and hold on lol

kmetek said:
how to repartition your sd card?
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yes,would love to know how to do that

[Q] Rooting - Which recovery ?

Hi everyone,
so i'm new in all the rooting stuff and have a couple of questions before i try it for the first time.
i learned that after using the unrevoked u get rooted phone + ClockworkMod. now what about that recovery? is it better than AmonRA ? which one should i choose? and is it possible to use unrevoked and get AmonRA instead of ClockworkMod ?
and if i flash official RUU does it give me stock ROM + no-root + no custom recovery ?
plzz help :c

Unrevoked can flash amonra for you.
I would suggest use clockwork for a while until you feel more comfortable with the whole process of rooting, flashing, modding etc
Clockwork is a perfectly fine recovery to use at first until you later require the extra benefits provided by amonra.
You can go back to stock by running an RUU, first NB!! check the rom your phone is running before you root and see if you can find that rom on shipped roms and download it. Also to consider: is your phone branded or network locked, if so and your exact rom that your phone is currently running isnt available on shipped roms i would suggest creating a gold card then.

dzumagos said:
Hi everyone,
so i'm new in all the rooting stuff and have a couple of questions before i try it for the first time.
i learned that after using the unrevoked u get rooted phone + ClockworkMod. now what about that recovery? is it better than AmonRA ? which one should i choose? and is it possible to use unrevoked and get AmonRA instead of ClockworkMod ?
and if i flash official RUU does it give me stock ROM + no-root + no custom recovery ?
plzz help :c
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You can try both recoveries, they equally function well. Yes, you can use Amon-Ra recovery instead of ClockworkMod with unrEVOked.
To flash back to stock, you will need a Gold Card and you will lose root and therefore not be able to use any custom recoveries.

1)my phone is non-branded and not network locked. do i still need to create a goldcard in case if i wanted to install a RUU and go back to stock ? (if this helps to answer i have an SLCD and this is exactly my ROM right now, found here ofc - RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release)
2)how do i make unrevoked install AmonRA (what i mean here is it fairly easy e.g. just pasting amonra.img instead of clockwork.img somwhere during the process or does it involves some fancy commands) and what 'advanced functions' can it give me that clockworkmod cant ? [maybe some tutorial that i didnt see ?]
3)which new htc sense rom would u recommned ?
4)after i install custom ROM the regular apps will update normally (i mean in market just like on stock), right ?

dzumagos said:
1)my phone is non-branded and not network locked. do i still need to create a goldcard in case if i wanted to install a RUU and go back to stock ? (if this helps to answer i have an SLCD and this is exactly my ROM right now, found here ofc - RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release)
2)how do i make unrevoked install AmonRA (what i mean here is it fairly easy e.g. just pasting amonra.img instead of clockwork.img somwhere during the process or does it involves some fancy commands) and what 'advanced functions' can it give me that clockworkmod cant ? [maybe some tutorial that i didnt see ?]
3)which new htc sense rom would u recommned ?
4)after i install custom ROM the regular apps will update normally (i mean in market just like on stock), right ?
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1) If you're sure you have always been unbranded, use the following RUU found here and execute it to revert back to stock
Note: HTC Sync must be installed too...
2) Make sure USB Debugging is on and then start UnrEVOked WITHOUT connecting your phone. (Right click > Run as Admin if on Windows Vista or 7) Then in UnrEVOked go to File > Custom Recovery and open the AmonRA recovery image file you downloaded. Then connect your phone and let UnrEVOked do it's stuff.
You can flash an alternative recovery with the latest versions of ROM Manager too: place the Amon-Ra recovery image to the root of your SD card, then open ROM Manager and select 'Flash Alternate Recovery'.
3) There are many great Sense ROMs, try them out for yourself and see what suits your needs the most (Hint: the most popular ROMs are normally shown on the first page of the Android Development section of the forum).
4) Yep, also, you will most likely get the newer Marketplace v2.26/v2.27 already incorporated into some of the custom ROMs too. You can also select an option within each app page within the Marketplace to have apps automatically update in the background when you connect to the Internet (although, some apps will still need to be updated manually).

And how do i check if my SDcard is good enough to be an ext partition for Apps2SD+ ?

You can use any standard/class of micro sd card for A2SD+
Simply create an ext partition (i use an ext3 partition) in ROM Manager of 512 MB and the remainder of the space will be dedicated to the FAT32 partition.
If you need to create an ext partition larger than 512 MB, use a Windows based partitioning tool or a Gparted live CD with Ububtu, for example.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yes, when u run stock ruu, you will be unroot and also ur recovery will be converted to stock
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

ok, that would be about everything i had doubts about
thanks to everyone

Going from one rom to another help...

Hi
I have purchased a HTC Desire HD and it is running MoDaCo Custom Rom r3
Can I install "Android Revolution HD™ 5.2.5" without downgrading?
The software number is 1.72.405.3
Kernel - 2.6.32.21- g3d0aaff
Thanks in advance

yes,you can...through recovery

Hi Mate
Thanks for the reply
I have never rooted a phone so can you please explain what you mean by recovery?
Is it a case of downloading the zip file and transferring this over to the SD card then booting the phone into recovery mode via vol+power button and selecting an option in there?

romeospadre said:
Hi Mate
Thanks for the reply
I have never rooted a phone so can you please explain what you mean by recovery?
Is it a case of downloading the zip file and transferring this over to the SD card then booting the phone into recovery mode via vol+power button and selecting an option in there?
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Yes. Do a backup (nandroid) in recovery and do a complete whipe and then flash the new ROM you want. Be sure to read all the steps in the ROM install guide.

You need to root your device in order to perform activity or processes that otherwise cannot be done. It basically means, sort of like "hacking" the device so that you can do anything with it. (eg modifying system data)
You have to downgrade your device to 1.32xxxxx so that you can use Visionary app to root your device. Here is your guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996
You must have S-OFF first to install recovery image.
Cheers.

I thought if it already had a custom rom it would be rooted already?
See if you have an app caled rom manager as you should be able to go through that.
Have a look in mikes thread, read everything!
google search etc... I did 4-5 hours reading before fiddling to make sure I understood what I was doing and in which order.

I think superstick1 misread the OP. Phone already has a custom ROM as stated by the OP.

Thanks for the replys, the is already rooted so I have placed the image on my SD card and installed it that way, i thought id messed up as the HTC white screen on boot stayed that way for a few minutes before giving me the setup.
Pleased with it, now hoping to customise it, any add ons recommended?
Cheers

[Q] Ways of flashing custom rom. How to install cyanongenMod.

I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.

macmac2008 said:
I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.

25092992 said:
Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd

bortak said:
Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
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He's prolly gonna need it eventually when he decides to try one of those unstable roms out there.
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stankyou said:
eventually
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Eventually. OP only wanted CM for now

Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated.
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)

gab_hamelin said:
Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated
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Take your advice and go somewhere else. ROM Manager both sucks and blows and just causes problems. The only "good" use it does have is the ability to download ROM's straight to your phone. Otherwise steer clear.
gab_hamelin said:
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
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In most cases
gab_hamelin said:
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
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Should do a full wipe, including boot, system etc.
gab_hamelin said:
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
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Do not use ROM manager to make backups. Can just cause problems as already stated. Don't be lazy and do it yourself via recovery, now with 4EXT touch it's easier and simpler than ever.

Yes. Go and flash manually. Rom manager is just a middle man that screws up the process. Dont ever use it at least for Desire coz it really doesnt play well with it. Even after you successfully flashed cyanogenmod.
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Use this fine guide?
I used this very fine guide when I wanted to go further than HTC would let me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
And it is maintained on XDA, which is nice.