http://stuff.tv/news/HTC-Desire-fails-T-Mobile-quality-checks-store-availability-delayed/14293/
Could this be for current owners as well?
Slightly worrying as I've got one from T-Mobile. Couple of things keeping me from being too worried:
1. I haven't noticed anything awry yet
2. If there is a glitch, it seems to be software based, so flashing the phone with/when the generic HTC ROM is officially publicy available (which I intended to do, anyway) should fix it.
load of bull because its available in shops now
I think it's likely that we've got phones with bugs and will get OTA update soon.
i wonder what about the unlocked and unbranded phones from mobiles.co.uk ?
maybe they had the t-mob versions and just unlocked them ?
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I think it's likely that we've got phones with bugs and will get OTA update soon.
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Maybe so. lets wait and see. if its a software bug, i can live with that as it can get rooted/updated but if its a hardware issue.
well were ****ed then
My only grief until now is the absence of the voice-to-text facility. HTC have specifically mentioned this on desirehtc.com -> Android. They mention that "Rather excitingly, it brings us into a realm where voice-to-text is a reality in all text fields. Imagine sending texts or emails simply by talking to your phone. Now do it, we're there." How the t-mobile desire version did not get it is beyond me at the moment.
I find it strange that they only included the HTC Touch keyboard and removed the standard Android one. I ran both on my G1 and it was each to switch input methods with a simple long hold in a text entry field.
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Can't say I have seen anyone complaining of any problems yet.
Can't be that serious can it!
If it's a software problem it will soon be fixed. If it's a hardware problem I guess we will have our phones replaced.
I wouldn't worry about it. I would rather have the phone now with the seemingly trivial problem.
I flashed the Generic ROM anyway but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not possible to revert to the T-mobile ROM if you need to.
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I find it strange that they only included the HTC Touch keyboard and removed the standard Android one. I ran both on my G1 and it was each to switch input methods with a simple long hold in a text entry field.
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a custom rom should fix that
Sometimes - especially after a long time in a building in central london with inexplicably poor 3d reception - my phone just refuses to connect to 3g even when in a strong 3g area. I try turning the mobile connectivity off/on and this very rarely does the trick; more often it either does nothing, or doesn't even complete. It just sits there saying `connecting`. If I turn my phone off and on again then reception is restored. My phone is fine in all other respects (wifi is very fast), and the data does work fine most of the time.
Does anyone else have this problem? Is it just orange? Is there some other way of getting the resetting functionality of turning it off and on without actually doing so?
Orange UK handset? Lots of threads on this already...
Of the various mods I've read about, changing the preferred network type has had the best results. My phone is usable again.
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Change the network type to GSM auto (PRL)
Upgrading your radio version is the next step and is something I intend to do eventually... the phone needs unlocking first. The above method has made my phone usable in the mean time.
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Orange UK handset? Lots of threads on this already...
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Yeah, I read a lot of them. None of them make any difference for me.
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Of the various mods I've read about, changing the preferred network type has had the best results. My phone is usable again.
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Change the network type to GSM auto (PRL)
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Like this one, for example.
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Upgrading your radio version is the next step and is something I intend to do eventually... the phone needs unlocking first. The above method has made my phone usable in the mean time.
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I've no interest in unlocking or flashing my phone. I just want to use the internet on my phone. Apparently this is a problem on the Desire.
Assuming you're on Orange? You didn't say.
They've got their branded 1.21 OTA update in the pipeline that will almost certainly include a radio update that many have reported improves signal and 3G/HSDPA pickup.
If you want that now, you can flash to a generic 1.21 ROM using a goldcard. You'll need to buy an unlock code for around £15.
You can either wait for Orange to release the update (keeping your warranty), Or go get it yourself now. Woth bearing in mind that you'll get Froyo faster if you get a generic ROM...
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Assuming you're on Orange? You didn't say.
They've got their branded 1.21 OTA update in the pipeline that will almost certainly include a radio update that many have reported improves signal and 3G/HSDPA pickup.
If you want that now, you can flash to a generic 1.21 ROM using a goldcard. You'll need to buy an unlock code for around £15.
You can either wait for Orange to release the update (keeping your warranty), Or go get it yourself now. Woth bearing in mind that you'll get Froyo faster if you get a generic ROM...
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Yeah, I'm on Orange UK. I like the idea of generic roms, but I'm sort of put off by all the reports of people bricking their phones. Also, I'm used to HTC's sense UI. By all accounts the standard Android interface is a little dull. It's actually the HTC widgets I'd probably miss most, though. I guess it depends on exactly what is in 2.2, really. Functionality is more important to me than a wizzy front end, and Orange have made something of a mess of 2.1 on the Desire (breaking reflow on the browser, removing google talk but leaving the service running, putting loads of crap on like facebook which you can't remove and which gives me a daily reminder that there are updates available which i don't want and can't disable).
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Yeah, I'm on Orange UK. I like the idea of generic roms, but I'm sort of put off by all the reports of people bricking their phones. Also, I'm used to HTC's sense UI. By all accounts the standard Android interface is a little dull. It's actually the HTC widgets I'd probably miss most, though. I guess it depends on exactly what is in 2.2, really. Functionality is more important to me than a wizzy front end, and Orange have made something of a mess of 2.1 on the Desire (breaking reflow on the browser, removing google talk but leaving the service running, putting loads of crap on like facebook which you can't remove and which gives me a daily reminder that there are updates available which i don't want and can't disable).
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Why not flash a custom ROM like Pays Desire Sense: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674688
It's not Froyo but it's a great 2.1 ROM that will get rid of all the annoying **** from the Orange/Generic ROM and adding some nice new stuff, all while keeping Sense and all the HTC UI stuff.
I had the problem with the data connection as well but it's fixed now I flashed the radio after unlocking. You can get an unlock code for £10 and it's actually an investment in terms of resell value for the phone, plus of course you can then use whatever radio you want rather than waiting on Orange OTA updates.
You can always reflash to Orange stock if you ever have any warranty issues.
It can seem a bit daunting at first if you are not used to flashing ROM's but as long as you can follow a handful of well documented step by step instructions that are given it's easy, and there is so much to be gained.
Don't put up with what you don't like when there are relatively easy fixes.
I bought a HTC Desire branded to Orange UK trough eBay when i was working there last month. The First thing i did was to debrand it using the 1.15.405.2 that i found on MoDaCa, and i bought a unlock key on eBay. This solution worked pretty well until the OTA update showed up, the i got the known WiFi issue. That was no biggie either, just installed the RUU of the 1.21.405.2 and the new Radio, and everything seemed to be perfect again
BUT THEN, two days ago, my phone suddenly lost it's connection to the my mobile operator . I tried to swap my sim card with another sim card, and the result was that my HTC Desire wouldn't get connection while my sim card worked well in the other phone. I also browsed trough my menus to try to find something that might be wrong, but no luck. If i tried to connect to my mobile operator manually, i got a message saying something like "SIM-card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Yesterday morning, i called HTC to try to find out if this might be a hw or sw malfunction, and he advertised me to do a factory settings restore and felt pretty confident that it only was the sw letting me down. I did as he suggested and boom, it worked...for about 5-6 hours, then it came back. As if that wasn't annoying enough, a factory settings restore didn't do the trick this time, and neither did a reflash with the goldcard. I even formated my mSD to be sure there wasn't any kind of virus on it.
So please, if anyone in here got a tip regarding sw, let me know. I'm helpless without my dear phone...
Hmmm this is my biggest concern... I'm just about to buy an ebay Orange Desire and flash it with a stock ROM and unlock it.... kinda worrying as I'm no Linux man really...
im not sure if its the same thing but i have lost conection to t mobile on my desire twice now. first time was fixed by re entering the apn. this time no change. the differance is mine is un branded. i also cant do mms any more.
Unbranded and debranded, same ****, isn't it? Niter means branded...
Seems like i'm not the only one with this problem: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/topic/5...nt-re-connect/page__view__findpost__p__405655
Lots of Vodafone users in that forum has similar issues, but most of them seems to have a workaround by turn off the back on, or go by airplane mode to get signal back, tat doesn't work for me. I tried to flash my phone once more, but still no luck.
I'm considering a root operation and install android 2.2 aka froyo, but i'm not even sure if that is possible since i got the bootloader version 0.80...
ive just got mine working again by resting the apns to default.
mms still not working though. i hope its not a voda problem i just paid off t mobile a years contract to join voda due to terrible reception and crap tech support.
what is that, and how do you do it? I would guess that a reset to factory default and/or a complete reflash would take care of such, whatever it is...
Yep I was about to ask the same thing! what is it and how do you turn it on/off?
go to settings - wirless & networks - mobile networks - access point names - then press the menu key and hit reset to default.
hope this helps you
That did the same thing as a "reset to factory defaults", but still doesn't work
I've an unbranded unlocked desire on 3 UK with original firmware and mine does drop out occasionally but always comes back perhaps its a desire quirk !
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Suppose so, but unlike you and many others, mine doesn't come back I was hoping for a fix for this issue, but i'm afraid were talking about hw malfunction, let's hope i'm wrong...
Little update, just followed this guide, but that didn't change anything. As far as i know, i now got some kind of rooted version of HBOOT 0.75 and fw.ver. 1.15.405.4, dunno about radio version. But it also says that i'm not able to install a custom rom with this rooted version, but i might be able to completely root it now and then install a custom rom?
Yet another update, i did install the 2.2 Froyo following this guide, and unlike the HTC roms, this one indicates that i do have full/optimal connection to my mobile operator, but it still won't let me call, just replies with 'Mobile network not available'.
I kinda courages me to scream out loud ****!!! Yes, i mean it...
Feedback would be nice
Just a thought, may i be that the guy i bought the phone from could have reported it as stolen with the intention of getting an insurance fee? And as a result of that, my phone have been closed by the operator? Don't even know if they mind doing such across the border. So the question would be: Is there any way to find out if my phone has been remotely closed?
Call your carrier.... they will be able to tell you if the phone is connecting to the nextwork correctly... ask them if not... why not?
I second that suggestion, try calling your carrier. Also I have found that switching the internet on directly through settings rather than using the widgets solved my connection problem.
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Yep, i got contact with the seller from eBay, and he is very helpful, so he will do what he can while i will call my carrier first thing in the morning. Seems like there might be a glitch here, but i'll keep you updated on my progress.
argh, it seems like i wont get anywhere with my phone. I'm considering trying to change the IMEI, i know it's illegal, but i paid £360 for this device, and atm it's useless to me. If i only knew how tho change the imei, not exactly easy information to obtain, not even with google...
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argh, it seems like i wont get anywhere with my phone. I'm considering trying to change the IMEI, i know it's illegal, but i paid £360 for this device, and atm it's useless to me. If i only knew how tho change the imei, not exactly easy information to obtain, not even with google...
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So have you found out why your having problems?
ah, sorry, thought i already told u guys, lol. Well, for some reason the phone is IMEI locked. The seller says that he did call to lock a sim card when he lost his iphone, and it might be related since it's the sim that was suppose to be in my phone. however, i think he either claimed the phone stolen to commit insurance fraud, or it's simply stolen. Another thing i came across was that the operator might blacklist the phone if it's unlocked without their blessing, don't really know if they can do that.
Either way, the only way for me to make this phone work is to convince the police that it's not stolen (i need a recite for that which he won't provide me), or to change the imei code with my "awesome" hacking skills...
I wonder if anyone can help...
I'm at stage 1 of de-branding my UK Orange Black Desire..
I got the unlock code this morning and it worked a charm!
Thing I have now is if I have the Vodafone sim in the vodafone desire it came from (handset is going back faulty) I get HSDPA....
If I then put the same sim in the unlocked Orange Desire it only gets 3G+ (whatever that is)
I had to configure the Access Point Names manually as prior to that it had no data connection at all?
Anyone got any ideas? am I missing something?
3g+ is hsdpa but orange named it 3g+ in their Rom for some reason. Don't worry, all is well
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Your a STAR! thanx mate!
Just got to flash it now and get rid of all this orange JUNK!
For some reason the market place is different on the orange phone to.... google earth, beebplayer and layer are all missing... and goggles doesnt work.
I'm on orange also, and have done what you are doing. Be careful when you flash the new generic Rom as it will lock the phone, and you will need an unlock code to use it again if you don't have the goldcard in while updating. You'll find Google earth in the market after the flash, as I have it installed on mine. Goggles also works. It will display hsdpa instead of 3g+ when flashed aswell.
Any problems I'll try to help.
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Orange always call HSDPA - "3G+" on all their smart phones, my Nokia N85 was the same until i changed it's product code and reflashed it. I guess they call it 3g+ because it sounds like an improvement to 3G. Non technical people will probably wonder what HSDPA actually is.
Also, if you want Google Earth, use a WWE rom as the European ROM i used to debrand my Orange Desire originally would not find google earth, even after doing an OTA update.
I recently debranded my Desire and updated to Froyo using the rather helpful guide below.
http://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/blog/20100822-how-debrand-htc-desire-update-froyo
All has worked rather well, (better than I expected), and I no longer have any Orange rubbish on my handset. However when my phone has been switched off for a while, when powering up I get a msg saying "your sim has changed", and asks if I want to update details etc. This seems to happen each time.
Nothing bad happens if I cancel and ignore the msg, but I wondered if there was something I could do to stop it from appearing again?
This is a common problem on certain custom roms. I'd take a look in the thread of the rom you are using and see if they have released the fix yet.