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ok just got a evo and thinking of making the switch officail from tmobile hd2 now on the hd2 android roms you can increase the data.img size to default 512 MB, 1 GB or in some cases 2 GB allowing you to install more apps on to your phone, I was wondering if the same thing was possible to do with the evo I like to have a lot of apps on my phone so if someone could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.
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Forums are kind of dead on the weekends.
I haven't seen anything like that for the evo since it's 512ram/512rom.
We have apps to sd - basically you can move your apps to the SD card, which is normally bigger than the ram/rom.
Hrshycro said:
Forums are kind of dead on the weekends.
I haven't seen anything like that for the evo since it's 512ram/512rom.
We have apps to sd - basically you can move your apps to the SD card, which is normally bigger than the ram/rom.
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Um, isn't it 1GB ROM + 512MB RAM?
bokechukwu1 said:
ok just got a evo and thinking of making the switch officail from tmobile hd2 now on the hd2 android roms you can increase the data.img size to default 512 MB, 1 GB or in some cases 2 GB allowing you to install more apps on to your phone, I was wondering if the same thing was possible to do with the evo I like to have a lot of apps on my phone so if someone could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.
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Obviously you can't increase it its the built in Rom space.
You can use apps to SD (a2sd) on some roms that partitions your card and puts apps on it.
yeah sorry about that and I just know on the HD2 android which I have been using on tmobile you can increase the data.img size up to 1 GB which allows you to install way more apps on your android
bokechukwu1 said:
yeah sorry about that and I just know on the HD2 android which I have been using on tmobile you can increase the data.img size up to 1 GB which allows you to install way more apps on your android
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that is because on your HD2, the data.img file resides on the memory card, which is likely 8GB or larger, so that increase in size is possible. On the Evo, the data.img is stored on the internal ROM, which has a physical capacity of 512MB, so we have already reached the maximum capacity...
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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hakeem0996 said:
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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Is your 16gb card a class 6? If not that's probably why.
^ FAST... Why do you say that.. Just curious because I was about to pull the trigger on a Class 6 16GB right now.
hakeem0996 said:
if you wanna install a lot of apps i would recommend fresh rom's .i got 330 apps installed in my phone not on my sd cz for some reason my cheap ass 16gb card act up evertime i put an app in it.
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330? and how many do you really use.....
Award Tour said:
Um, isn't it 1GB ROM + 512MB RAM?
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According to google.com/phone you're right.
mherald81 said:
According to google.com/phone you're right.
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Those are the correct specs. They are the same that HTC, Sprint, and now Google have always advertised. 1 GB Rom and 512 MB Ram.
As to the OP, you may be able to change the partitions some, especially if you clean up the system partition, but it would require building a new ROM and flashing it. At least, that's the only way I know of to repartition your NAND.
Oh, and you probably won't recover way too much memory to the data partition. Probably no more than you free in system by removing some unnecessary built in apps like Quickoffice.
fast2049 said:
Is your 16gb card a class 6? If not that's probably why.
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slicksyco00 said:
^ FAST... Why do you say that.. Just curious because I was about to pull the trigger on a Class 6 16GB right now.
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Becasue a class 6 card will be faster then a class 2 or etc.
I know this is an old, dead thread, but if someone is searching and comes across the OP's question, here is the answer.
Hi,
I have two partition 14 gb Fat32 and 2 gb Ext4 and I want that all installation goes on ext4 (without using internal strorage) so in this case what should I choose Apps2Sd Or Data2Sd?
thanks.
I wouldn't bother with data2sd unless I had a card of class 6 or higher.
I very much agree Class 6+ to get the benefit
Well you would want to choose data2sd, if you want as much to be on the sd-card as possible, however it is usually quite a lot slower than using internal, and there is no reason to leave internal completely empty.
Also you can't run everything from the sd-card. The system-partition will still be on internal as well as boot and so on.
mortenmhp said:
Well you would want to choose data2sd, if you want as much to be on the sd-card as possible, however it is usually quite a lot slower than using internal, and there is no reason to leave internal completely empty.
Also you can't run everything from the sd-card. The system-partition will still be on internal as well as boot and so on.
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Thank you mortenmhp,
I have sd-card of class 10, will still be a lot slower than internal?
thanks.
I use class 4 and have done from day one with droidzone's roms and it runs great.
I use a class 10 8GB card, and use Apps2sd. Dont really feel the need to use Data2sd.
Ive got alot of apps and still got some memory left so its all cool
Well it might not be too slow, but only do it, if you need the space, in which case it's a good solution.
But the more you move to the slower memory the more time will be spend accessing it.
But I'll encourage you to try it out for your self, as it's very individually(just make a nandroid backup and try different rom solutions) personally with my sd-card there is no way i'd use it for everyday use(flashed it a few times, and always got a slow and lagging system), while other people seem to have it working fine
Ok I will try,
Thank you mortenmhp...
Your question should be which do i need?
People rarely 'need' data2sd - apps2sd is 'usually' enough!
BigMrB said:
Your question should be which do i need?
People rarely 'need' data2sd - apps2sd is 'usually' enough!
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thanks for the infos
how do you know what class your sd card is?
there is a figure 2 or 4 or 6 or 10 in a circle printed on the sd card or you can install sd tools from market to benckmark it ( 2 means 2 mb/s , 4 means 4 mb/s,... aso )
i'd say go for apps2sd then if you need data go for that after
cartus said:
there is a figure 2 or 4 or 6 or 10 in a circle printed on the sd card or you can install sd tools from market to benckmark it ( 2 means 2 mb/s , 4 means 4 mb/s,... aso )
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Normally you need a magnifying glass because it is a tiny number............. see figure.
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I now use data2sd with MIUI rom and a class 6 samsung sd card £16 from play.com
I would defo recommend this card, I didn't think from class4 to class6 would be that much difference I was wrong. I can now record videos without a single lag, phone is easy 10x faster and smooth, also MIUI is superb rom
Hi,
Most of the times a class 6 or 10 is much "slower" than a good
class 4 like the sandisk mobile ultra of 4Gb (The one of 8 Gb is slow !!).
The problem is that te typical test of writing/reading to/from a single file doesn't guarantee the behaviour of the card when used intensively.
When many files are involved, things change dramatically and a good memory controller is a must, and many of the class 6 /10
don't have one.
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Hi,
Most of the times a class 6 or 10 is much "slower" than a good
class 4 like the sandisk mobile ultra.
The problem is that te typical test of writing/reading to/from a single file doesn't guarantee the behaviour of the card when used intensively.
When many files are involved, things change dramatically and a good memory controller is a must, and many of the class 6 /10
don't have one.
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Is there a app to test that?
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cartus said:
there is a figure 2 or 4 or 6 or 10 in a circle printed on the sd card or you can install sd tools from market to benckmark it ( 2 means 2 mb/s , 4 means 4 mb/s,... aso )
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I have a 8gb sandisk class 4 in a stock desire and am getting 6.8 meg read and write when I test
My question is what app can i use to expand my Htc Wldfire S internal from 150mb to lets say 600mb. I have "m1ndh4x8r GB2.3.5|OCKernel|Stable|Apps2SD|DATA2SD|Premium Features[1/25/2012]" rom installed and tried data2sd but it lagged way too much. I had it 2.8gb Fat 32, 847mb Ext4 and 70.6mb linux swap.(could i adjust this to increase performance). I used a class 4 PNY 4gb card.
Any other apps that can do this that doesnt lag???
Thanks in advance
I don't think there's a way to expand the internal memory. Just use a microSD card with Link2SD and put all your apps into the microSD card. I'm also using a class 4 card and I feel that it works well enough. Think there was a fellow who was purchasing a class 10. That's crazy haha. I think the speed difference felt stops after a while.
Silent7x said:
I don't think there's a way to expand the internal memory. Just use a microSD card with Link2SD and put all your apps into the microSD card. I'm also using a class 4 card and I feel that it works well enough. Think there was a fellow who was purchasing a class 10. That's crazy haha. I think the speed difference felt stops after a while.
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Yes you can.Using data2sd i increased my internal memory to 687mb i think from 150mb. However it lagged the system so bad.
try sd-booster https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mehrmann.sdbooster and see it make some difference. I am using a class 4 16gb sd card without any lag.
I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
lincman said:
I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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I can't imagine someone having 16G of apps? Matter of faxt 8 gig of apps would be crazy. I have 30 apps on my SGSIII and that is only .7G. Most Apps are only like 10M so it would take 100 apps for 1 G. Id say 16G is plenty. Buy a 64G SD card for all your media files and you should be fine.
16 GB is fine on a phone that allows an external microSD card. Put all your music, photos, videos, etc on the microSD and you'll have 16GB dedicated only for apps.
16 GB on a device that doesn't have an SD slot is okay for people who either don't have much stuff or that store that stuff on a "cloud" service (dropbox, google music/drive, etc) Personally, I don't like the "cloud" idea as it uses up my data allotment.
For the sake of comparison, I have 4 Gigs of music and many apps on my Inspire 4G with 8 GB micro SD Card. 16 GB internal with a 32 GB card will be more space than most people will use.
i actually had to clear out internal space for tomtom maps on my 16gb atrix (no option to use sd card for the maps) ....and i only use internal for apps.
yeah i know there are ways to force apps to sd...but it was causing freezing issues on the atrix...
so yeah, a little disappointed that there isn't a 32gb at launch...cuz in two years apps can just get bigger and bigger....
malinois16 said:
I can't imagine someone having 16G of apps? Matter of faxt 8 gig of apps would be crazy.
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Seen the size of some the newer games yet? 1 or 2gb games will become common soon, especially for FPS and racing games now that the hardware is there.
mr mystery said:
Seen the size of some the newer games yet? 1 or 2gb games will become common soon, especially for FPS and racing games now that the hardware is there.
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Can't you install the APPS on the SD card, just like you can do today?
Was just curious on difference in file size between my ios apps and soon to be android apps. I will compare a couple of other apps later today but if this is the trend I don't think I will have an issue with only 10gb of usable space.
I just compared the original angry birds 2.3.0 and my ios app is 112mb and the play store shows the android version is only 24mb.
Netflix ios 30.3mb and playstore shows the android version at 10mb.
Milkman00 said:
Can't you install the APPS on the SD card, just like you can do today?
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No, something to do with changes google made after ICS. I'm told titanium backup works, can't confirm til I get mine next Tuesday.
mr mystery said:
No, something to do with changes google made after ICS. I'm told titanium backup works, can't confirm til I get mine next Tuesday.
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I have Jellybean on my Samsung Epic 4G (2+ year old device), running CM10, and it can move stuff to the SD card.
Pop a 64GB microSD card in there. Problem solved.
Milkman00 said:
I have Jellybean on my Samsung Epic 4G (2+ year old device), running CM10, and it can move stuff to the SD card.
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There is a post in the International version threads about it, something with JellyBean and the way the Note 2 is partitioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951536&highlight=apps
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There is a post in the International version threads about it, something with JellyBean and the way the Note 2 is partitioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951536&highlight=apps
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wow. That concerns me greatly.
For me 16GB is not enough for main memory. I have a 32GB SD card but unfortunately on the S3 and presumably the Note 2 App2SD won't work. So all you are left with is 16gb to install all your apps, which is really like 11GB useable. Well if you want to play games on your phone (I have been) a lot of these bigger games are each 1GB or larger!! I just Bards tale and that had an option to install 3.5GB!! So for me I have to say my next phone needs to have at least 32GB or larger especially if App2SD can't get working right. I was really hoping the Att GN2 would come in 32 and 64GB flavors.
1 guy posted in the thread I pasted that Titanium backup moves Apps to the SD without issue. I get mine Tuesday I'll be trying it first thing. If it doesn't work I'll have to return it, 10Gb is not enough for Apps now and future.
lincman said:
I see the SGN2 on ATT only has 16g of memory. Should I wait to see if they get devices with more memory? I understand that you cannot really run apps from the SD card. Could some one please shed some light on this for me?
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My main concern regarding the memory configuration is that I thought I read somewhere in the forums that internal memory has faster access than the SD card expansion memory. My current Galaxy Note is using a 16g internal memory configuration with a 32g Class 10 SD card. I was hoping to go for the 32g option for internal memory if it was going to be made available but maybe the speed benefit isn't that great.
When looking at the pre-order options, I only see the 16g model and it doesn't offer the white version that is listed on Samsung's site! I'm not sure if I should wait a little longer or just dive in now!
Learic said:
My main concern regarding the memory configuration is that I thought I read somewhere in the forums that internal memory has faster access than the SD card expansion memory. My current Galaxy Note is using a 16g internal memory configuration with a 32g Class 10 SD card. I was hoping to go for the 32g option for internal memory if it was going to be made available but maybe the speed benefit isn't that great.
When looking at the pre-order options, I only see the 16g model and it doesn't offer the white version that is listed on Samsung's site! I'm not sure if I should wait a little longer or just dive in now!
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I'm in the same boat, I would like to get a White 32gb version but I read AT&T is only getting the 16GB and only have grey for now. I'm not sure if I can wait until the white one comes out or not.
16gb isn't going to be enough for me but I do have a 64gb sdxc so I'll just make due.
mr mystery said:
1 guy posted in the thread I pasted that Titanium backup moves Apps to the SD without issue. I get mine Tuesday I'll be trying it first thing. If it doesn't work I'll have to return it, 10Gb is not enough for Apps now and future.
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I have Titanium Backup, I don't see any option to move to sd. Anyways I doubt it would work because Samsung did their storage differently with the ExtSdcard vs what it used to be.
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You can always root the device & install the mod that swaps the internal sdcard with the ExtSdCard.
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I have Titanium Backup, I don't see any option to move to sd. Anyways I doubt it would work because Samsung did their storage differently with the ExtSdcard vs what it used to be.
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TiBu definitely has the option to move apps to SD. Look under Batch.
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Hi Just got my samsung captivate glide from ebay it's a second hand phone I just notice that my internal memory is only 3gb (used root explorer to see it). Is this the real memory or there is something bogus on this phone that i got from ebay. Thank you would appreciate any reply
sinichi21 said:
Hi Just got my samsung captivate glide from ebay it's a second hand phone I just notice that my internal memory is only 3gb (used root explorer to see it). Is this the real memory or there is something bogus on this phone that i got from ebay. Thank you would appreciate any reply
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Lol, no it's the real phone. I actually just got mine too. 3.75GB available for me to use.
It's weird though. I had the old Captivate which had 16GB of space and more than 13GB of it was available to me. I know you lose some space when formatting but I expected to have at least 5GB with this phone. May be due to partitioning of the device from the factory. Hopefully I can free up that space, because I'd like to have it...
Maybe someone else can explain the ROM breakdown a little better
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Lol, no it's the real phone. I actually just got mine too. 3.75GB available for me to use.
It's weird though. I had the old Captivate which had 16GB of space and more than 13GB of it was available to me. I know you lose some space when formatting but I expected to have at least 5GB with this phone. May be due to partitioning of the device from the factory. Hopefully I can free up that space, because I'd like to have it...
Maybe someone else can explain the ROM breakdown a little better
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Thanks for the reply yeah was thinking looks weird they say 8 gb I know 2gb goes to system but where is the other 6 or 5 lolz anyway thanks was worried i got trick by the person I bought from.
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Memory manufacturers are allowed to define 8GB as 8000000 bytes. Given this information a computer would see 8000000 bytes as 7812.5 MB or 7.629 GB. And this is before it is formatted or partitioned. Figure the phone has 7.5 GB. Then you have 2GB for internal apps and 4GB for internal sdcard. Leaves 1.5GB some in partitioning and rest in ROM use for operating system and reserved places for phone and modem sections.
That is why you hear about many people adding large micro sd cards and switching internal memory with external memory.
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I picked up a 32gb microsd and never looked back.
Tyfighter said:
I picked up a 32gb microsd and never looked back.
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I have a 16gb card, and never needed a new one since... Every phone I've upgraded to has more and more built in memory, so it's kinda left my memory card the same over the years.
reply your question
use this programe for move installed data on internal sd to external
GL to SD v1.9.9
Use Link2Sd
sinichi21 said:
Thanks for the reply yeah was thinking looks weird they say 8 gb I know 2gb goes to system but where is the other 6 or 5 lolz anyway thanks was worried i got trick by the person I bought from.
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if u want a better understanding of how your space it being used by your phone..
use the application called link2sd
and in that go to menu and storage space
it should show you all the partitions
they will some up to 8 gb i think . so there you go