Hi,
Im totally new to phone flashing, rooting etc. Please answer few of my questions before I make something bad to my beloved Desire
I have Wavesecure installed. However it has a limitation based on Android ROM - application cannot start GPS by itself. Seems to be secure-issued thing. I do not want to discuss it - just found out that if I will root my Desire then Wavesecure is able to start GPS tracking based on my SMS.
This is very important for me as I find this feature "a must" if phone is stolen.
I do not want to change anything in my ROM, do not want to flash new roms - just need root for Wavesecure.
And here is my major question - if done with some of tutorials:
- will I be able to run smooth still my old HTC rom without any problems, data loss etc? So will it just have root feature and nothing changed?
- if HTC releases new firmware update - can I install it from HTC or I will have to skip?
- if I install HTC release - will I have to root again?
1) rooting with the Stock image is fine, and you will be able to create backups of your phone in the future (which is always helpful)
2) Yes you can install them but you loose your rootedness and as such use of wavesecure
3) as above and yes, but you dont have to stick with the HTC ROM's, the cooked ROMs on here are way more fun
Thanks!
Is there any good guide for rooting only with 0.8 bootloader? All I found is rooting+flashing and I would like to avoid flash.
Wants only to add root feature, do not change ROM and last but not least - do not loose any settings/data...
sorry but in order to root your phone you have to flash a new rom
you are currently using a htc official unrooted rom
you need to install a htc rooted rom (this is just the htc official rom (yours) with root features)
this will clear the data off your phone, however if you have enabled the default backup feature of the phone most of this will be backed up and restored, you can even download 3rd party software such as titanium backup and mybackup pro from the market
Thanks for the info.
So I think I will wait for official 2.2 ROM and then I'll flash. Should be in few days/weeks now as already got 2.1-update1 installed via HTC.
Indeed, i was running that 2 days ago and 2.2 will eventually drop, just give it a week or so after and the Cooked ROMS should be up to scratch
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I found the cheapest Desire in the UK is at 3uk/payg - 350 Sterling
...but apparently it comes locked to the 3 network, so, before I buy I thought I'd ask:
Noob Questions:
Will rooting take care of unlocking/make it SIM Free? What about rooting AND changing the ROM? (MUST the ROM be replaced when rooting?)
Is there a way to install a stock ROM? (the new ROMs look great but are still early builds - I think the best is yet to come and would rather wait, for now)
If, as promised, the Desire gets an OTA update to support apps2SD and/or divX, etc in the future, will I have to wait for a custom ROM based on the update because I rooted the device?
(Ops, if this should be in the dev forum, feel free to move it)
Rooting should unlock it - perhaps others can step in to ensure that. The last step in the root process is installing a rooted ROM. Paul's default ROM that gets flashed in that step is nothing but the stock Desire ROM (the one from HTC direct) modded to allow root. Sounds like that's what you want.
If the Desire later gets updated and you want it, you will have to wait for HTC to come out with an official update, or (since you're rooted), you'll most likely be able to get it sooner via the rooting community. HTC has to take time and make sure everything's perfect with Sense, etc. before they release an update. The root community doesn't usually have that hold time.
If you do wait for an official ROM from HTC, there's a chance installing that after rooting will revert your root, i.e. you'll lose access to the extra fun stuff.
eesmm said:
but apparently it comes locked to the 3 network
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3's Desire's are 100% unbranned and unlocked. I've got one right here and checked it just now with an o2 sim and it worked, although I do actually use my 3 sim in it! They get them stock from HTC and bundle a SIM card pack with them - According to 3 Blog. That may well change in the future, but it was the case when I picked mine up last Sunday.
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i.e. you'll lose access to the extra fun stuff.
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what is this extra fun stuff? apps to SD? (doesn't really affect me). What else? What am I missing. No idea of the real advantages of rooting so hoping to learn about the practical applications of rooting.
Hi everyone,
I've spent the last 6 hours or so with reading about all kinds of stuff, involving rooting your device, installing recovery images, installing custom ROMs (OS), etc., including how to backup your phone with Nandroid (or even easier, using the Rom Manager from the market).
I have a HTC Desire with Android 2.1-update1 (I am glad that I didn't update yet, as now I still have the old 0.80 bootloader). I'd like to try out different other Android versions (unlockr lists so many, they all look interesting). However, before, I'd like to backup my phone, that is, my Android 2.1 including the app and Android settings.
As it appears, I need to have "root" access. But why? From my understanding, everything I should need is a modified recovery image that has nandroid backup integrated. Please correct me if I am wrong, but if I use unrevoked3, won't that tool do exactly that for me, without having me to wipe my phone? I haven't used unrevoked3 yet, and unfortunately it doesn't tell you what this tool exactly does, e.g. it doesn't tell you whether it wipes your phone, and it also doesn't tell you how it is able to give you root access ... which I'm curious about, because downloading it does not involve downloading a update.zip with > 100 MB of size.
Aside from that, why do "root your phone" solutions always force me to wipe my phone? Isn't it possible to just "update" my phone OS from Desire's Android 2.1 to Desire's hacked 2.1 with root access??
Cheers!
Never mind. It's actually quite easy.
Just go to the Desire-root guide on rootmydroid co uk.
Just follow step 1. You get to back up your device without having to root it.
Will only work if the Desire is not updated to Android 2.2 (OTA update) yet.
Hi folks,
I've decided to root my Desire running OTA 2.2, but I'm not sure which guide to follow. There seems to be many different options, and all tutorials tell different things. Which is the best/safest/easiest way? I'm sure this has been asked before, but I couldn't find any threads for it. Here are some of the guides/methods I'm considering:
Unrevoked
Complete upgrading guide
RiskFreeRoot
The "complete upgrading guide" isn't really an option, since it apparently won't work if "you have installed 2.2 OTA update from HTC". A final inquiry, once I've got root access, which are the must-have apps for rooted devices? I've stumbled across a bunch of them, but it would be nice with some pointers as well
Cheers
1. Use unrEVOked
2. There are no 'must have' apps. Ignore Task Killers as they're not needed. You're better just going for a custom ROM
Thanks! Unrevoked really seems like the best way to roll. I've never used task killers and I see no reason to start now
Well, that was quick and simple enough Kudos to unrevoked 3.
Quick off-topic question: can a device rooted with unrevoked 3 still receive official OTA firmware updates? And if so, when such an update is applied, will the device still be rooted?
You can receive the OTAs (at least if you are still on a stock ROM) but your Root will most likely be gone (as it was the case with the last OTA).
Settings > about phone>system software updates> untick automated option...
because mistakes always do happen and you don't want to in the middle of a day or a weekend..
can someone here also tel me if there is a way to backup de current rom in case somthing happens and need to go back to the vender.
Use rommanager to back up old rom, and also to flash new rom. You can download it from market.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Although I am tempted by Cyanogen, I was reading through their forum about one or two issues so am still a little unsure about it.
Can I just ask a couple of things:
1) What are the general advantages of cyanogen over stock firmware? i.e. what extra features if any and do you lose any functions?
2) How easy is it to upgrade my rooted T-Mobile wildfire to a stock unbranded version of 2.2 without losing root and keep the ability to revert back to branded stock firmware (including the bootloader) for warranty purposes if needed?
Many thanks in advance
Hey,
Some advantages are: overclocking, more work memory (i had about 90-110 memory on stock froyo, about 170-190 with CM now), all the useless slow apps running in sense are gone, general smoother feel, live wallpapers, being able to install themes to make your UI a bit nicer, ...
You can re-install the stock sense ROM afterwards if you want (although I doubt you will want to, most people like the improvement after a custom ROM ). And as far as I know, when you use the revolutionary tool ( http://revolutionary.io/ ) to S-off, you can revert that and get the original bootloader back for warranty issues. However I have not done this myself, but I recall reading it here (others, correct me if i'm wrong ) *edit* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251
Many thanks Wolfway
Cyanogen sounds great from what you say - have you had any issues with the stock browser on it? I must admit I have tried dolphin/skyfire/opera etc but tend to like the stock one the most generally?
Also, I know you have to install the Google apps separately but can you install them individually afterwards as I think I'd only use GMail, Maps and Market (are there any others? I don't use many other stock apps than those). I know you can get Maps as an apk and Gmail was on the market I think?
Or is it just easier to install the Google Apps zip file from Cyanogen?
As long as I can go back to a stock firmware and can just try it then I can see no harm in at least giving it a try...
Just one other thing about the Revolutionary, does reverting it to S-On also take off the 'Revolutionary' line in the Boot loader so there's no evidence of the S-Off having taken place?
About the restore, I cannot help you as I have not tried nor did I read topics about that, I suggest you go ask in the specific topics
You have to flash google apps (you can find the correct files on the cyanogenmod wiki's). You cannot download the apps from the market as the market is included in the google apps file to flash... when you boot after installing the google apps it asks you which to download however. Maps, chrome to phone, ... so if you do not want one it will not install.
And I actually have never used the brower on stoyo froyo or cyanogenmod 7. I use opera mini, but do not browse often on the internet, I mainly use apps for the stuff I need
Hey guys, I recently bought an HTC One V to replace my old Android phone. Last weekend I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it so I could enable wifi tethering, now I’m thinking about trying on some new ROMs but since I never flashed to one before on any phone I had some general questions about what I can/can’t do and what to expect along the way.
1. It’s important for me to make sure I have a backup of the stock ROM I’m currently on in case none of the custom ones suit me or don’t work as well. Last weekend when I flashed TWRP to recovery and believe I made a backup of stock before rooting, I know I was following a tutorial and they said it was optional but I should do it just in case for the same reasons I listed above. Is this considered doing a “Nandroid backup”, and with these backups is the ROM and all installed apps backed up as well, so when flashing back to it it restores the ROM and whatever was installed at the time so apps don’t need to be re-downloaded?
2. When on a custom ROM and wanting to revert back to stock is the procedure the same as going to a custom? I thought I saw something about having to relock the bootloader if wanting to go back to stock.
3. When looking around for custom ROMS to try out do I need to make sure that it’s compatible specifically with my phone model or generally speaking do all custom Android-based ROMs work on any Android OS phone or tablet?
4. Are there some ROMS built around doing a specific task? Like for me I want to concentrate on making sure my phone’s mobile hotspot runs as smoothly as possible for tethering and having a functional bluetooth profile is important as well. Without asking “What ROM is best” can someone recommend a ROM that best fits my criteria that I should try out?
5. Will I need to re-root my phone whenever I flash to a new ROM? And when doing a Nandroid backup while rooted is the root access backed up as well?
6. Is there an app available that keeps track of the ROMs I download and allows for flashing to them easily?
7. Does GApps need to be flashed to the phone after going to a new custom ROM everytime, or do some ROMs include the GApps in them already?
Any other tips, tricks, or explanation on something you don’t think I’m “getting” would be great. Thanks a bunch for any help.
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Hey guys, I recently bought an HTC One V to replace my old Android phone. Last weekend I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it so I could enable wifi tethering, now I’m thinking about trying on some new ROMs but since I never flashed to one before on any phone I had some general questions about what I can/can’t do and what to expect along the way.
1. It’s important for me to make sure I have a backup of the stock ROM I’m currently on in case none of the custom ones suit me or don’t work as well. Last weekend when I flashed TWRP to recovery and believe I made a backup of stock before rooting, I know I was following a tutorial and they said it was optional but I should do it just in case for the same reasons I listed above. Is this considered doing a “Nandroid backup”, and with these backups is the ROM and all installed apps backed up as well, so when flashing back to it it restores the ROM and whatever was installed at the time so apps don’t need to be re-downloaded?
2. When on a custom ROM and wanting to revert back to stock is the procedure the same as going to a custom? I thought I saw something about having to relock the bootloader if wanting to go back to stock.
3. When looking around for custom ROMS to try out do I need to make sure that it’s compatible specifically with my phone model or generally speaking do all custom Android-based ROMs work on any Android OS phone or tablet?
4. Are there some ROMS built around doing a specific task? Like for me I want to concentrate on making sure my phone’s mobile hotspot runs as smoothly as possible for tethering and having a functional bluetooth profile is important as well. Without asking “What ROM is best” can someone recommend a ROM that best fits my criteria that I should try out?
5. Will I need to re-root my phone whenever I flash to a new ROM? And when doing a Nandroid backup while rooted is the root access backed up as well?
6. Is there an app available that keeps track of the ROMs I download and allows for flashing to them easily?
7. Does GApps need to be flashed to the phone after going to a new custom ROM everytime, or do some ROMs include the GApps in them already?
Any other tips, tricks, or explanation on something you don’t think I’m “getting” would be great. Thanks a bunch for any help.
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Well, I have only had motorola with android, but maybe i can help you with some of your questions
3) No, each custom rom is made for a specific model, so you have to search the roms that are made for your phone/tablet, flashing a wrong rom may be an easy way for killing your device
5) Most roms are pre-rooted, at least all of the roms i used on my motorolas were pre-rooted, i guess that with htc things must be simillar.
6) It depends, some roms (like cyanogenmod) does not include GApps, so you have to flash them after you install the rom, others have GApps included, so you must see if the rom you're installing has GApps included.
Well, hope this may help
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Great questions...still a noob but learning fast. These are some of the questions I was wondering about myself. (If I ever find a way to root my phone) Good luck and I will bm this page for future use.
Thanks guys, bump to try and get the other ones answered.
1) Use Titanium Backup for the apps' backup .
2) You should flash the stock rom of that phone and then relock the bootloader.
6) I don't know any app to do this, but it can exist, idk.