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Report lost, keep phone?

Would the phone still function as a wifi device when you report it lost? If im going to pay $100 I much rather keep my current phone for wifi and testing out roms, its a rev 2 with tons of light leakage, some LCD pixel rainbow leakage near the top of the screen,a minor scratch on the screen, battery cover is warped and bent out of shape it barely stays on and theres a ding on the bottom right side.
Don't even think its worth trying to argue with radioshack that I should get a replacement under warranty instead of paying insurance $100 of my hard earned cash.
I can't stand dealing with brick n mortar employees.. they are so aggravating to negotiate with.
Also, in before Sprint employees call "FRAUD!" I think selling me a phone with so many major defects then trying to make an extra $100 off me to replace is more fraudulent.

I won't judge you!
Yes wifi will work fine.

lol, I just deleted my response to your thread in General. FYI, a mod can easily move threads around..
In response to your question:
Yes, your phone will still function as a wifi enabled device
The only possible problem would be it trying to run the Hands-Free-Activation but I think you're good if you leave it powered off for a day after you activate the new one. Also, you can avoid that possibility all together if you put CM on it. Sprint can't activate AOSP builds on their network. I've had to flash back to Sense builds 3 times to get phones switched around between my Sprint account and my Dad's.

Why doesn't everyone do this to have an extra wifi device? Oh, that is why they cost 600 bucks to buy outright.... that's right.
In your situation i see no problem and won't judge.
Everyone else who sees this thread and does it just because they want to browse porn on their couch is what aggravates me.

skydeaner said:
Why doesn't everyone do this to have an extra wifi device? Oh, that is why they cost 600 bucks to buy outright.... that's right.
In your situation i see no problem and won't judge.
Everyone else who sees this thread and does it just because they want to browse porn on their couch is what aggravates me.
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Agreed, the OP doesn't seem to be a crook. I think his logic is pretty sound but the only difference between him and someone doing this for fraudulent personal gain is intent..
I want to offer an opinion about the price point for these phones. Working in the heart of an international company (the third largest in our industry) I am of the opinion that the $600 price point has no relation to the people that commit fraud to get new phones for whatever reason. The price of the phone is $600 because that's what the brilliant business analysts at Sprint, HTC, or whatever consulting group they contracted told Sprint is the sweet spot between profitability and perceived value in the consumers mind, coupled with the subsidized price of $200 with a 24 mo contract. They could sell these phones for $300 and make a diminished profit, or they could sell them for $800 a pop but end up selling half as many.
The price points are built to take a predictable percentage of fraudulent claims in to account. I AM NOT ADVOCATING FRAUD!! I am only suggesting that if no one committed fraud and got free phones or kept "lost or stolen" replacements for WiFi enabled backups.. the price would still be $600. The difference is Sprint, HTC and Asurion would make a greater profit margin.
Again, I am NOT ADVOCATIN FRAUD. If you are a thief then you don't deserve to own an EVO. But I'm tired of seeing people drop the "you are the reason this is so expensive for me" line. It's just not true. It would be more accurate to say "people like you are why Dan Hesse's kid has to settle for a Gallardo when he really wanted a McLaren F1". I do not feel sorry for Dan's kids.. at all.

it likely has little to do with the price of the phone but it certainly has to do with the price you have to pay azurian for the replacement.
while you may not be selling it reporting it lost/stolen is still fraud(as it is not lost or stolen and you are reporting it that way specifically with the intent to keep the existing phone). i wont judge just saying fraud is fraud at least accept the facts.
I also wouldnt be posting your intent to fraud on a public forum but that's just me. chances are nothing will ever happen but if you are the one sucker they catch they can easily track the post back.

nebenezer said:
lol, I just deleted my response to your thread in General. FYI, a mod can easily move threads around..
In response to your question:
Yes, your phone will still function as a wifi enabled device
The only possible problem would be it trying to run the Hands-Free-Activation but I think you're good if you leave it powered off for a day after you activate the new one. Also, you can avoid that possibility all together if you put CM on it. Sprint can't activate AOSP builds on their network. I've had to flash back to Sense builds 3 times to get phones switched around between my Sprint account and my Dad's.
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awesome i love cm6 but cant use it cause it has no 4g but since my first evo will only be wifi it will be perfect, so I should flash cm6 back on then call the insurance and claim it lost?
edit: also turn off the phone untill I get my replacement a good idea too? pop the battery out?

crakerjaks said:
awesome i love cm6 but cant use it cause it has no 4g but since my first evo will only be wifi it will be perfect, so I should flash cm6 back on then call the insurance and claim it lost?
edit: also turn off the phone untill I get my replacement a good idea too? pop the battery out?
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Just put it in airplane mode and make sure GPS is off and I think you should be fine but pulling the battery would be the safest. Tell them its at the bottom of the lake. Then they would have zero reason to even attempt to try and do a locate on it or anything.

Take the battery out. If you can use a app to take pics from the internet I'm sure they can turn location on or find it with it turned off. My 2 cents.
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I hate Sprint/Asurion

So my phone was stolen on Friday. Saturday I filed the claim.
Says it will take 1-3 days. Wed after getting no updates I call, they say should ship that day. Today I call they say it is now 10-14 days.....call Sprint they say there is nothing they can do.
So basically:
1) Go 14 days without a phone
2) Buy a new phone out of my pocket (what was the purpose of insurance again?)
3) Accept a different model phone (what was the purpose of me buying my phone just 2 weeks ago?)

That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.

Post like this makes me wonder about insurance. I would not get off the phone till someone helped me.
Did you have lookout or tp app on it? I think your insurance can try to ping it also. But it is probably to late. Still, I would try.
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japper88 said:
That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.
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Thats only for damage, Best Buy doesn't cover lost and stolen. Hence why they have no deductible.

Its not a cell phone but I have magic jack for exactly this reason. Awesome device that just plain works and costs almost nothing.

newalker91 said:
The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Wow. Just wow.
First off, you're right about there being no magic warehouse of them, and that they're simply unavailable. That's the part that sucks. But you're making a lot of other unreasonable assumptions here. For one thing, they're not offering him another model until his becomes available, they're merely offering him another model. PERIOD. They will not then say, "oh, hey, we got these back in, so we're going to send you one and you send the loaner back." That's not them trying to assist, that's them giving up on a reasonable solution. I think working with a local store to provide a loaner until it's available would be the reasonable solution here, but they're clearly not set up for that, and that's a shame.
And nice "blame the victim" mentality. You sound like the jerks who tell rape victims that it was their fault for dressing that way. The guy got his phone stolen. No world is it his fault that it was stolen. Someone still broke the law and TOOK his property without permission. Period. There's no logic behind telling him that's HIS fault and HE should have known better. How exceptionally rude and thoughtless.
Besides, he did protect himself by buying insurance on his new phone. He did the right thing, knowing stuff happens and these problems occur. He's one of the responsible ones. And the insurance isn't paying off. That's the reality.

newalker91 said:
The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Nice troll!

newalker91 said:
Not trolling. It's called playing the devil's advocate. Working for Sprint, I see a lot of bs every day where people do stupid things and result in their phone being lost/stolen. Asurion often times will offer a temporary replacement unit until theirs is available if you escalate the issue. Never once did I say it doesn't suck that his phone was stolen, I'm merely pointing out that in the future this can all be alleviated by being more careful. Starting a thread to flame Sprint/Asurion will result in said person being questioned as to their reasoning for doing so.
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You're a pretty good troll, indeed. Where did you learn these skills?
Troll techniques uses so far:
1. Its OPs fault
2. tl;dr original post --> talk about other crap not relevant to post (like he was offered a loaner phone)
3. Call OP stupid, careless, other flame names
4. Lie blatantly.. about phone availability, policies, etc.
Need I go on?

Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.

TurboFool said:
Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.
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He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.

LxMxFxD said:
He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.
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Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.

Lonewuhf said:
Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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This. Very much this. The amount of irresponsibility i see every day as a tech is sickening. What is even more disheartening is the greater amount of entitlement.
On that i won't be elaborating, but needless to say I am sorry for the OP, but surely you can comprehend that there simply are little to no refurbs available. Refurbs have to come from somewhere, and that would be returned phones. The phone is little over half a month old, so its not hard to see that the amount of refurbs made and phones returned is creating a backorder limbo, with the rates being about equal. Also, exacerbating the problem is the fact that many are out of 14 days so issues dealing with defects no longer qualify for a new, but a refurb instead.
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How is this Sprints fault?
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I haven't had problems with misplacing my phone, but it does happen. Trust me I treat it like a brick of gold. Fiancée is always saying you care more about your phone, etc. Anyways isn't a replacement what why we pay insurance? If some dumbass hits your car you sure aren't gonna wait two weeks for a rental. Cut the man some slack, **** happens and it could happen to you. At least he's wanting another Epic Touch and not jumping on the iPhone bandwagon. I mean let's go wait in line for a phone that's already outdated...
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Lonewuhf said:
Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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Stuff happens. You can't assume that every person who has something does it by ignorance. Now, let's assume I had it stolen because of my ignorance. I am STILL paying $8 a month to cover that ignorance, and it isn't being done.
I just had to go out and buy an Evo 4G in the mean time (obviously I could have bought something less expensive, it was $150, but still). So now I will wait for my Samsung to get to me and promptly cancel my insurance coverage. If I'm going to be SOL anyway paying $96 a year and $100 for the deductible and $150 for a replacement in the meantime I might as well just go without it.
And for the record, I have had more smartphones than I can count on my hands and possibly my toes and have never had one lost, stolen, or KIA due to user error before. But like I said at the beginning, stuff sometimes happens.

So for all those saying that if someone gets something stolen thy are irresponsible? So if I go to work and my house gets broken into its my fault? That is what insurance is for. They cover lost/stolen phones and that is why he pays the $8 bucks a month. I'm glad he told me how asurion works.
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newalker91 said:
People hate to take any blame for their own mistakes, and often times it is best that they hear something that they don't want to hear. As I've clearly stated, not every theft leaves the owner at fault, but often times it does. Phones are constantly left laying on counters at bars, in lunch rooms at work, on benches in locker rooms, etc. and then they are angry for having to pay the deductible. I may piss some individuals off when I ask them how it came about being stolen, but finding out actually is part of my job. Teaching people a little responsibility can go a long way considering they get a limited number of claims.
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your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.

boominz28 said:
your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.
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And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.

gpgorbosjr said:
And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.
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i would get that in writing , now i dont know your financial situation but comparable would mean another 600 buck phone, in my mind i would do it knowing i would get that money in cash in hand , but if they dont and say we will credit your account i wouldnt do it.

I don't think people are understanding the arguments here.
In the past I worked with security to try to help with campus crimes. Main problems being rape and thief. We could have easily have cut down on these problems if it weren't for one greater problem. Just plain stupidity. People ignore the safety advice we were giving them. Late class at night? No friend to walk home with? Call this number and we will come and get you. Guy or girl, it didn't matter. Follow these paths that we have clearly outlined for you while security is beefed up in other places, and still people choose to take short cuts that saved them maybe a few minutes and put their lives at risk. We did everything we could to prevent this from happening and it was as if they did everything they could to make something happened. Police have a negative stereotype and it frustrates me to no end when people ignore them when they are putting their lives on the line to save these people.
But lets get closer to the subject. I had my car broken into. Jacked up my dash taking out my radio. GF was driving it at the time and she forgot to lock my car door. I called the police and once they figured out my door wasn't locked they didn't do anything. It was my fault for not locking my doors and I had told my GF to make sure she locked them and she didn't. If my doors had been locked with my security alarm active my insurance and the police would have been a lot more helpful to me. And who knows, maybe the alarm would have scared them off and avoid the whole situation(broken window at the worse?).
I was personally shocked that the op didn't try to track their phone down. Lookout, plan b, he has insurance so the TEP app would have helped him to. I keep my phone on a belt holster. A few people have grabbed that holster when I was walking in crowded areas and without a quick reaction my phone would have been stolen. Before I had a holster one of my older smart devices fell from my pocket when I was playing games. None of the employees knew where it was. Used another customers smart phone to track mines down behind the employees desk and they just so happened to find it there. Last but not least, it is possible to be robbed and have your phone forcefully taken. You can't plan for every possible thing that could happen to your device. But you can get insurance and install at least one program to help track it down in the event that it is lost.
Any of could be where the OP is right now despite however much planning we do. I personally don't like the way the insurance is handling this. I would expect a loaner device during these times because it helps ease the pain of waiting. And of course the OP is mad at Sprint. They sold him the insurance that put him in this place. Wouldn't you be mad at me if I sold you something and it didn't work when you tried to use it? It should lower your trust in me despite the fact that I didn't have any control over what happened and it worked great for everyone I knew.

Sending my phone in for repair (updated daily)

Thought ill do this to help people that are thinking of sending their phone in for repair.
If its fast, if they do a good job etc..
I called up Samsung UK at 9am UK time 21/05/12 and told them what's wrong with it
This is what is wrong with it;
The screen pops out about quater of a MM on the bottom right
-The phone doesnt always charge when connected to the charger (this has happened about 5times within a month)
-The phone switches off randomly sometimes (This has happened about 3 times within a month)
-Sometimes when i remove the charging cable. On the screen it says charging/ disconnected continuously, If i wasnt aware of it, it would keep happening and burn my screen since the same image is on the screen none stop (This has happened 2 times within two weeks)
-If i shake my phone i hear a rattle sound on the upper back of the phone (This has been there since i bought the phone)
-The touch screen isnt as responsive from when i bought it (I have to take my finger off the screen and try again sometimes)
-WiFi and 3G stops working and i have to reboot my phone to be able to use it (This has happened countless of times)
Some of these faults only happen sometimes but they have happened more then once within a short period of time.
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Quite a lot right? lol. The women took it quite well haha.
They said the bag will be sent out within two working days with Royal Mail, and the repair will take from 5 to 10 working days. I have to send it with other information like proof of purchase contact details etc..
I asked what happens if they send it back and the same/ new faults are still there?
She said we will try and repair it again and if its no good on the 3rd try then they will send me a new one.
The call took about 20minutes. I was on hold for about 5minutes total.
So let the games begin.
ps I set this as my background for fun

LoL @ background!
hope they take care of it...

I got the package this morning around 11am while i was sleeping (i work nights) so i could of sent it today if some one woke me up -_-
Another thing.. the packaging they gave me is an utter joke.
Cheap bubble wrap thats about 2ft by 1ft and a plastic bag(envelope)
I used my own bubble wrap, cardboard, bubble wrap jiffy bag, some more bubble wrap then put it in the envelope with all the information they needed.
I think i over did it a bit but what can i say? Im a bit OCD on stuff like that lol.
I took lots of pictures of my phone so when they send it back to me.. if there is one mark that wasnt there before/ still has the same or new problems its going straight back.
I want to send it back three times because then they will send me a brand new one on the 3rd go haha.
I'm going to post it tomorrow morning.

Hope it works out for you.

You complained about a rattle when you shook your phone? Dude, you're nit picking.
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Smokeey said:
You complained about a rattle when you shook your phone? Dude, you're nit picking.
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I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.

RedBlueGreen said:
I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.
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lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
Every iPhone comes with one year of hardware repair coverage and 90 days of telephone technical support. AppleCare+ for iPhone extends repair coverage and technical support to two years from the original purchase date of your iPhone and adds coverage for up to two incidents of accidental damage due to handling, each subject to a $49 service fee.1 With AppleCare+ for iPhone, Apple experts can help troubleshoot issues over the phone or at an Apple Retail Store. They’ll answer questions about iOS, Apple iPhone apps such as Mail, iMessage, and Calendar, and help you solve interconnectivity issues between your iPhone and Mac or PC. And if your iPhone needs service under the plan, Apple technical support representatives can even set up a repair during the same call.
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http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480

WiredPirate said:
lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480
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My mom called at day 96. If you act like you now nothing about this then they might let it slide. She got a new phone free somehow.
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WiredPirate said:
lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480
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I'm in the UK so its probably different over here.. no?
My brother didn't spend anything extra on the phone... just the phone itself.
Maybe you don't know much about Apples customer service?
I know Americans get f'ed a lot on phones.

RedBlueGreen said:
I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.
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I did something like this back when I had the 3GS. I waited until I decided I was buying the Nexus One, went to the Apple store and said the battery wasn't working correctly. The guy went in the back and came out with a brand new phone which went on Craigslist immediately after.
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Flippy125 said:
I did something like this back when I had the 3GS. I waited until I decided I was buying the Nexus One, went to the Apple store and said the battery wasn't working correctly. The guy went in the back and came out with a brand new phone which went on Craigslist immediately after.
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Its quite funny.
The best thing is that the iPhone doesnt devalue much.

Orange_furball said:
My mom called at day 96. If you act like you now nothing about this then they might let it slide. She got a new phone free somehow.
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RedBlueGreen said:
I'm in the UK so its probably different over here.. no?
My brother didn't spend anything extra on the phone... just the phone itself.
Maybe you don't know much about Apples customer service?
I know Americans get f'ed a lot on phones.
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One year hardware warrantee, 90 day tech support via phone. Which leaves much to be desired IMO. Almost all products offer 1yr hardware support, Android does not charge $99/yr to help you diagnose a problem over the phone. Imo saying Apple has superior customer service is so assbackards it borders on mentally challenged. As far as what I personally know about Apple and their CS, I've been an Apple device owner for years, same for Android. Both have good qualities, both have poor qualities. But I have no delusions of which are which. I'm not going off somebody else's experience, somebody who as far as I am concerned (since we don't have an XDA username for them) has no credibility on this forum. I posted the link and quote directly from Apples website, it's kind of hard to disagree with that, and if either of you would have actually read it you would have seen that hardware is warranted for 1yr.

WiredPirate said:
One year hardware warrantee, 90 day tech support via phone. Which leaves much to be desired IMO. Almost all products offer 1yr hardware support, Android does not charge $99/yr to help you diagnose a problem over the phone. Imo saying Apple has superior customer service is so assbackards it borders on mentally challenged. As far as what I personally know about Apple and their CS, I've been an Apple device owner for years, same for Android. Both have good qualities, both have poor qualities. But I have no delusions of which are which. I'm not going off somebody else's experience, somebody who as far as I am concerned (since we don't have an XDA username for them) has no credibility on this forum. I posted the link and quote directly from Apples website, it's kind of hard to disagree with that, and if either of you would have actually read it you would have seen that hardware is warranted for 1yr.
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Every iPhone comes with one year of hardware repair coverage
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The phone wasnt repaired. You go off of your experiance and ill go off of my own
Anyway.. lets ditch this Apple talk.. and stick with Samsung.

RedBlueGreen said:
The phone wasnt repaired. You go off of your experiance and ill go off of my own
Anyway.. lets ditch this Apple talk.. and stick with Samsung.
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You mean i go off my experience and you'll go off your brothers experience. You quoted me quoting Apple about the "repair" thing btw, just follow the link and see for yourself, that's what is written on Apples website.
Sure we will drop the Apple talk, just thinking about AppleCare pisses me off, don't know why anyone would prefer it.

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You mean i go off my experience and you'll go off your brothers experience. You quoted me quoting Apple about the "repair" thing btw, just follow the link and see for yourself, that's what is written on Apples website.
Sure we will drop the Apple talk, just thinking about AppleCare pisses me off, don't know why anyone would prefer it.
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well me and my dad was with him so its basically my own experiance too..
I dont see why anyone would buy extended warranty .. its a rip off.
btw just one hour and i can post my phone =O

That was my whole reasoning, I don't see why anyone would rather HAVE to pay for the extended, much less pay for phone support during the normal warrantee period. Hopefully you are more than satisfied with your new device, I will be asleep in an hour but I'll come check it out tomorrow.

Sent it!
I'm using my mums HTC wildfire for now lol

Curious to see how it goes - Samsung USA wouldn't accept my European GN to repair a broken screen...not even for money. I may have to send it back to Europe to get it fixed.

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Curious to see how it goes - Samsung USA wouldn't accept my European GN to repair a broken screen...not even for money. I may have to send it back to Europe to get it fixed.
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That sucks. How much does it cost to ship over to.. lets say the UK

Still haven't received it yet
I think it should come today or tomorrow.

Shattered Screen - Shattered confidence in HTC

To cut a long story short I smashed my screen (doh!)
Checked XDADev's for info and broadly got the message I was looking at £80 - 100 for the repair based on others experiences... rang HTC the guy said based on previous repairs and that it was just the gorilla glass I was looking at around £100. Also found somewhere else that would do it for £85 in 48 hrs but thought it best to keep warranty intact and go through 'official channels'.
Sent it off and received my quote today (2 days later)... £150!!! The quote states it's just the glass they are replacing and the cost of the part is £99. Tried ringing them and arguing the toss but just got some guy who, whilst very nice, just kept avoiding my question and feeding me bull****. Now I'm in the situation where if I don't accept the quote they will still charge me £30 just for looking at it and send it back so I can then get repaired elsewhere, So I'm going to accept the quote because I want it back asap.
This has left a really bad taste in my mouth and left me with a VERY negative view of HTC.
Just thought I'd share my story for the benefit of others who may be stupid enough (like me!) in the future to break their screens...
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

my condolences - you'll manage it

That's why if you want to get the best after sales support, you always buy iPhone. Although, the screen is pretty expensive and getting it repaired from official channels will always cost significantly more.

Don't accept it. I've gave this advice before but mail HTC ceo and complain. It's outrageous etc etc. See what happens
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

When I spoke to HTC Australia, I asked if my warranty would still remain after they repaired the screen, they said no... so I just did it myself.
You might want to double check whether they'll honour your warranty!

itsali said:
When I spoke to HTC Australia, I asked if my warranty would still remain after they repaired the screen, they said no... so I just did it myself.
You might want to double check whether they'll honour your warranty!
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Thanx mate... I did ask that when I first called.. it was the main reason I went down the HTC route as I found somewhere else that would have done it much quicker and cheaper too!

worlock666 said:
Thanx mate... I did ask that when I first called.. it was the main reason I went down the HTC route as I found somewhere else that would have done it much quicker and cheaper too!
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Just argue with them and complain that the Gorilla Glass has shattered too easily, you're very disappointed, have been a long standing HTC customer and never had any problems with previous phones etc... refuse to accept the quote and ask to speak with their manager. When I smashed mine, less than 2 weeks into ownership, I was quoted 150 quid as well ($300 SGD). After a few phone calls they dropped the price down to 75 quid ($150 SGD). It took a couple of days more to get the phone back, but it was worth it. The warranty remained intact too as I have since sent the phone in for repair when the speaker stopped working and there was a dead zone on the screen, it was repaired free of charge.

Google will not do a refund for the Pixel (refunded) ?

Right now i am frustrated, upset and just don't know how to swallow this. Ill try to be short. Need advice on what to do.
I have previously had issues with two of my google xl phones.
I have returned one of them.
Received the second one as a replacement which was also problematic.
I have decided to return the Pixel stand along with that replacement phone together and get a refund. (Since pixel and the stand came as a deal)
Google sent me the packing slips, I remember asking the rep can if i could ship both items in one box to which i received a reply "yes" (not that it makes a difference)
I came to UPS gave the lady the box. phone and stand was in it. I also put return paperwork for the phone and for the stand in the box in front of her and past her two shipping labels. One for the stand and one for the phone. She closed the box and put only one packing slip on the box. Told me i have put the paperwork in the box already. There is no need to put the second shipping labels as its going to the same place. You get where im going with it now?
Google received the package in 2 days and started to process the refund for the pixel stand (as that was the packing slip she chose)
I have called them asking them about the phone and they knew nothing of it.
After over 4 weeks of trying to call them and get answers of my escalated case i received little to nothing. In fact calling them 3 weeks after they"ve received the package to get answers and they didn't even get my story straight. I had to tell them again what had happen. Obviously, shipping rep Lori, have told me not to worry, the box went into one room. They will find it......
So just now, i get an answer in my email saying "the package didn't contain the device" therefore no refund.
Feel free to tell me im an idiot do ship and do what i did. As Im entertaining that idea as well, sadly.
Im know what i put in the box so either UPS or Google had lost it or took it
I did take few pictures of the box with the phone and stand and packing papers in that UPS store before shipping them out.
If they would have told me right away there was no item i would have went to UPS store while the lady still remembered me. May be if they had video surveillance they could have pulled it as well. Now after a month im not so sure bout neither.
Cant they look at the pictures and see the time, date, location, authenticate it? Doesnt UPS ship the package with weight shown?? Im sure weight of the package was way heavier then just a single pixel stand. Wonder if they even called UPS.
Its very hard to swallow this as a lesson.
Tomorrow ill go talk to UPS see if i can get some answers. Ill call google tomorrow as well, see if i could get some answers as well.

I don't have any experience with returning items, but I do know that when trading in phones for credit towards a new device it explicitly states that you must send a separate package for each device being traded in as they are tracked individually. Sorry to hear that happened but if they had already paid for the shipping labels I guess I would have just boxed and sent separately since I wasn't paying the shipping...

I had the same issue with a phone I bought for my mom. They sent us the wrong phone and instructed us to refuse delivery and return to sender. Long story short, since they didn't tell me to use a label or send me one for return the phone got lost. So I was out $300 and three months of arguing. To make it worse they still tried to charge me the fee on Fi for not activating the phone on the plan. It really rubbed me wrong and even after all the good years they treated me well it still made me sour.

fury683 said:
I don't have any experience with returning items, but I do know that when trading in phones for credit towards a new device it explicitly states that you must send a separate package for each device being traded in as they are tracked individually. Sorry to hear that happened but if they had already paid for the shipping labels I guess I would have just boxed and sent separately since I wasn't paying the shipping...
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It was a refund tho. I wish it would say anywhere what you wrote, would have saved me.
As soon as they received the package I had a feeling they scanned it and tossed it to the side. Did little to nothing to investigate either.
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I had the same issue with a phone I bought for my mom. They sent us the wrong phone and instructed us to refuse delivery and return to sender. Long story short, since they didn't tell me to use a label or send me one for return the phone got lost. So I was out $300 and three months of arguing. To make it worse they still tried to charge me the fee on Fi for not activating the phone on the plan. It really rubbed me wrong and even after all the good years they treated me well it still made me sour.
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Sucks. I still can't swallow the loss.

All I have is these two pics.
Someone took or lost the phone.
It's painful to eat this.

Good luck, sounds like a nightmare.

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Good luck, sounds like a nightmare.
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thx, it is.
From the moment i walked out of that UPS store i had a bad feeling. Thats why from my first call to them ive been pushing them to check and find the package but that goes nowhere when all people do is read the scrip on the phone. led nowhere. I know what i packed in and what i brought to UPS, so its blows so hard that im losing 1275 Cnd.
Will go to that ups place tomorrow, hope that lady works is there and pray to god she remembers me and our conversation. So we could go back to those fvckers and say look harder for the damn device.
As soon as they would have opened that box they would have seen two items and two pieces of paperwork for each.
Errrr I'll stop venting.

File against them in small claims court. Around here it costs like 50 bucks to file. That will at least get their attention.
I am about to do it over the 50 pre order credit, just because I am pissed about their BS.
Or maybe a shipping claim with the carrier.

TonikJDK said:
File against them in small claims court. Around here it costs like 50 bucks to file. That will at least get their attention.
I am about to do it over the 50 pre order credit, just because I am pissed about their BS.
Or maybe a shipping claim with the carrier.
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Great, thank you for the advice. Ill go to UPS tomorrow to chat to them but if i can go to a small claim court ill do that too. thank you, thank you.

I wonder if the lady at the store took it after you left. She could of easily told another employee/driver that hey there's a $1000 phone in there take it. Not very uncommon for UPS/FedEx etc to steal from customers.

OkayGK said:
Great, thank you for the advice. Ill go to UPS tomorrow to chat to them but if i can go to a small claim court ill do that too. thank you, thank you.
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Unfortunately, the pictures don't show a phone or a stand. They only show a box and some bubble wrap. So I don't think that's going to do it. Also, I don't think a UPS employee would take a $1000 traceable device and put at risk a job that probably pays a decent salary. But something happened to the device and you will just need to keep on Google to find out what happened. Has the phone been turned on? They should have a record of that as well as blacklisting the IMEI. It might take a while but with persistence you should get your money back.

Hello OkayGK, hope it all works out for you. I'm waiting for my phone to arrive. It's been 2 weeks. Can you please tell me how to get in touch with company reps. Thanks. Again I hope they resolve your issues and you get your refund. Good Luck.

Baby BB said:
Hello OkayGK, hope it all works out for you. I'm waiting for my phone to arrive. It's been 2 weeks. Can you please tell me how to get in touch with company reps. Thanks. Again I hope they resolve your issues and you get your refund. Good Luck.
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Hey. Funny I deleted my bookmark for Google support the other day to clean up my chrome Abit. I have the number for the saved to my phone. Didn't think I'd need the bookmark anymore.
Search through Google store in your account settings.
Should find it somewhere there.
For Canada here's the # (855) 836-3987

OkayGK said:
Hey. Funny I deleted my bookmark for Google support the other day to clean up my chrome Abit. I have the number for the saved to my phone. Didn't think I'd need the bookmark anymore.
Search through Google store in your account settings.
Should find it somewhere there.
For Canada here's the # (855) 836-3987
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Thanks for the info. I will look in my settings for contact info. I never got an email from them saying it was shipped yet. So i guess it's just do to normal delay time. I think if is not shipped the support reps. will not have any status info. on order.

I've read stories about people doing chargebacks in similar situations which can result in your entire Google account being closed. Just FYI if you intend to dispute the charge or file small claims, they may just close your account and move on.

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I wonder if the lady at the store took it after you left. She could of easily told another employee/driver that hey there's a $1000 phone in there take it. Not very uncommon for UPS/FedEx etc to steal from customers.
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Anything is possible but the lady was older and seamed nice. I kept thinking it was on googles end.
I went to talk to UPS, lady wasn't working. Talked to another gentleman there. He told me he will talk with her as well as if i need a letter from them they can assist. I was told as soon as the package leaves that store it is in UPS hands. So now, i think a driver or anyone else could have taken the item as well. Again, anything could happen at this point. I can entertain the ideas left and right where that phone could be.
Sucks
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Unfortunately, the pictures don't show a phone or a stand. They only show a box and some bubble wrap. So I don't think that's going to do it. Also, I don't think a UPS employee would take a $1000 traceable device and put at risk a job that probably pays a decent salary. But something happened to the device and you will just need to keep on Google to find out what happened. Has the phone been turned on? They should have a record of that as well as blacklisting the IMEI. It might take a while but with persistence you should get your money back.
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Yeah, i doubt ups store took it, however drivers could... I've heard stories. Also, remember the story where google had chose a shipper to deliver phones to us and that company would take the phones out of the boxes and ship empty boxes? i think i read it somewhere here. Had me so paranoid, i was taking videos while unboxing my phones.
What UPS guy told me today is as soon as the package leave their location it goes to a wh. Where they weight the package and charge google according to its weight. Im sure they could look at that and see how heavy the box was when UPS shipped it. That would tell everything right away. If it was as light as just a stand means phone was taken out. If the package was heavy enough for a stand and a phone/accessories then its on googles end. Of course i could have put stones inside those boxes. Yet i wasnt even lucky enough to have google come back to me with that. Still have to call them see what where how etc.
I would not want to band the Imei as it can probably be changed remotely. Least if I let the IMEI number be there is a chance if the phone is in use it could show.
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I've read stories about people doing chargebacks in similar situations which can result in your entire Google account being closed. Just FYI if you intend to dispute the charge or file small claims, they may just close your account and move on.
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Sadly, i understand. I paid of my Mastercard as i kept waiting for weeks to get refund from them. I could of gave that phone or bought a new phone for my gf, or use that money for something else. The fact that some asshole may be using my phone or someone made a fvck up and got away with it, whether its UPS or Google, now thats hard to swallow. Im trying to be possessive and making my peace with it but ill also will keep trying to do everything i can to get the refund. Cant give up, yet. Im not rich to close my eyes on this it hurts and even rich people probably would still fight this.
here is the last response form google rep who was looking after my case.
Thank you for contacting Google Support!
Thanks for contacting us about your order. We’ve carefully reviewed your case and our records confirm that the package you have sent us does not contain the device, therefore we have not processed the refund.
As a next step, you may consider initiating an investigation with the carrier or notify local law enforcement. We’ll be happy to assist in an investigation.

The more I think about this, it's a straight up UPS claim and you will not have much if any trouble getting UPS to pay up.

How did you purchase the phone? All debit and credit cards with Visa/MasterCard on them have protection built in. Contact your card provider. It does not matter if you paid it off. Hopefully you have the UPS tracking # too as they are likely the ones that your card or Google is going to go after, after the fact as all shipments have insurance on them.

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Great, thank you for the advice. Ill go to UPS tomorrow to chat to them but if i can go to a small claim court ill do that too. thank you, thank you.
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Any update? I hope you able to make headway, sending good vibes.

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How did you purchase the phone? All debit and credit cards with Visa/MasterCard on them have protection built in. Contact your card provider. It does not matter if you paid it off. Hopefully you have the UPS tracking # too as they are likely the ones that your card or Google is going to go after, after the fact as all shipments have insurance on them.
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I have two credits link to google as well as paypal. Now i think just one credit as the limit on it was increased so there was no need for another but at the time of purchases ive had two.
I don't know why the credit card is liable for this. I know, i know get my money anyway... who cares where it comes from but now the more i got to sleep on it the more im bothered by the fact i got owned and less by the money. No im not rich, i want the money but its hard to explain. All i know it bothers allot.
I just dunno anymore, lost a bit. again, friday i found out from google they couldnt find the device and now its monday. Less im bothered by the money more im bothered by the scam or mistake someones made. stings.
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Any update? I hope you able to make headway, sending good vibes.
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Not yet, ive been so so busy. still am but hopefully im going to call google later on today. see whats up and then call UPS and try to file a claim.
The more i read their email (google). I posted on the first page. The more i understand that they asked me to contact my carrier, meaning not google but my cell phone carrier. WTF, how is carrier responsible. And Police im guessing which is again nor here or there but hey if i need to ill go to authorities.
My priority as of now and im not so upset anymore is
Call google and find out
Did they get my package (the box)
When they opened, what was in the box?
One item (stand) or two Items( phone and the stand) or non? As they were not clean in the email and even refund for the stand didnt come in.
More importantly. UPS store told me USP will charge them for package weight. So how heavy was the box? So if the box was 6 pounds (3 pounds for phone and 3 for a stand) and they received the box and it was light as nothing was in there, wouldnt that hit red flags automatically? Light box, when opened nothing in it, yet it says its 6 pounds. UPS wtf, where are items. or am i wrong?
Unless google doesnt weigh the products then by that definition they should be liable in my mind, as UPS can be sending empty boxes non stop and google can tell customers fuk off, u sent us nothing. You know what i mean.
So that info is going to be crucial for me, If i can get someone on the line who can actually provide me something instead of looking at the screen reading what it says there and saying "sorry" every two min.
I'll keep you all updated, thank you for the support.