Is it ok to post free apps that you have modded? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well I have a couple apps that I am modding to my liking. I'm modding the actual apk file itself. Is it ok to post them when finished, or could that be an issue

If they are free I don't see why not.

Free does not always equal open source or give you the right to distribute.
You should email the developer to make sure.

I just figured it would get deleted by a Mod due to the fact it wasn't my work originally. I got a couple I know people will like.
Fancy Widget, working on a clear Pandora (couple versions actually), and Some more that I come across.

ViViDboarder said:
Free does not always equal open source or give you the right to distribute.
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Right that what I was thinking.

ViViDboarder said:
Free does not always equal open source or give you the right to distribute.
You should email the developer to make sure.
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I second this. An e-mail to the dev would be the best idea.

Wonder how Pandora would respond to a bad grammer, spelling, and sounding email? Hey look at this email this no body actually thinks we will give him permission to distribute our program, just changed to his liking. haha

enragedpaza said:
Wonder how Pandora would respond to a bad grammer, spelling, and sounding email? Hey look at this email this no body actually thinks we will give him permission to distribute our program, just changed to his liking. haha
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Haha, post it here and I'm sure we can proof read it for you.
Pandora was only a small start-up not too long ago. Although I think your chances are VERY slim on getting them to give you permission to redistribute their APK. Think about it, what if you started putting in a virus and everyone blames it on Pandora?
If you have a clear theme you want people to use, you're probably better off packaging something yourself that requires users to download the official APK for Pandora and modify the contents themselves.
What I just described is pretty common practice as it puts the modification of the content in the end users hands which is (arguably) within their rights.
So posting a zip of some original images (not modified versions of theirs) and instructions on downloading their APK and making the modifications is the safest way to do it.

ViViDboarder said:
Haha, post it here and I'm sure we can proof read it for you.
Pandora was only a small start-up not too long ago. Although I think your chances are VERY slim on getting them to give you permission to redistribute their APK. Think about it, what if you started putting in a virus and everyone blames it on Pandora?
If you have a clear theme you want people to use, you're probably better off packaging something yourself that requires users to download the official APK for Pandora and modify the contents themselves.
What I just described is pretty common practice as it puts the modification of the content in the end users hands which is (arguably) within their rights.
So posting a zip of some original images (not modified versions of theirs) and instructions on downloading their APK and making the modifications is the safest way to do it.
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Yeah I know they wouldn't give me permision haha. I don't know how to even create a virus. But your point is clear to me. So my easy install of clear Pandora will just sit in a folder for personal use.

enragedpaza said:
Yeah I know they wouldn't give me permision haha. I don't know how to even create a virus. But your point is clear to me. So my easy install of clear Pandora will just sit in a folder for personal use.
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How about posting a not-do-easy install?
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I've never looked into the structure of apk files but I thought it was compiled code? How are you modifying it?

ViViDboarder said:
How about posting a not-do-easy install?
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Lol meaning? Or I could look into metamorph.
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Minjin said:
I've never looked into the structure of apk files but I thought it was compiled code? How are you modifying it?
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I'll let you know when I'm on my pc.
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i've seen plenty of roms that have pandora (themed) included. would what you're wanting to do be any different?
i've even seen an "adless" version of pandora floating around somewhere before.

madsquabbles said:
i've seen plenty of roms that have pandora (themed) included. would what you're wanting to do be any different?
i've even seen an "adless" version of pandora floating around somewhere before.
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All I wanted was a transparent Pandora. I made every widget 50% transparent. I know there is metamorph and there is a theme/skin floating around that will do it. But, I dont like having to go through the process of downloading Metamorph, download this, download that. Just wanted to have it as a apk. I haven't used Metamorph since nexus one sold it 2 months after buying it. Might have changed since then, but it used to fail on doing some skins.

you should just make the theme, and let people morph it themselves. a theme is not the same as distributing the application.

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Just wanted to know if themers

Have gotten their hands on dxtop. What obstacles and new challenges might it posses?
this is very interesting, good find.
I never heard of this before. This will allow me to build a digital clock widget to give my fadetoblue theme more of a TouchFlo3d look. Thanks!
Thats sick works well but if you have a theme installed it wont read the launcher from the theme so the stuff in the Luncher.apk from the theme wont show up clock,google search bar and stuff like that. Great idea and if themes can be installed with this its going to be bad a$$.
just bought it
Lovin it!
One of the best apps so far!
if you download the apk couldnt you just replace and theme the elements in that and upload it? or is that not something that could be done? i understand that you couldnt redistibute it, but for your personal use no? i opened it up and it looks similar to the launcher...just a thought
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if you download the apk couldnt you just replace and theme the elements in that and upload it? or is that not something that could be done? i understand that you couldnt redistibute it, but for your personal use no? i opened it up and it looks similar to the launcher...just a thought
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That was my understanding. In fact, didn't you do this to the demo version randumaccess?
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That was my understanding. In fact, didn't you do this to the demo version randumaccess?
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well it would be easier if the developer got together with Jesusfreke and make it into a big update and incorporated the app as the home screen for a small donation type thing? I would pay again for a update like that then the sky is the limit with themes for this.
yeah i updated the elements like in the normal launcher by the way and resigned the whole app. people would have to know how to put the elements in the app themselves after purchase... not for amateurs. would like to see someone pull off some way to do it easily though.
so randum, does that mean you already have a theme for it?
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so randum, does that mean you already have a theme for it?
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that means i can do it, and i am working on one as soon as we figure out how to do it without pirating the app, it will be released.
Randum, you the man. I don't think baron would mind. Just ask him.
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well it would be easier if the developer got together with Jesusfreke and make it into a big update and incorporated the app as the home screen for a small donation type thing? I would pay again for a update like that then the sky is the limit with themes for this.
yeah i updated the elements like in the normal launcher by the way and resigned the whole app. people would have to know how to put the elements in the app themselves after purchase... not for amateurs. would like to see someone pull off some way to do it easily though.
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Thats a damn good idea about the update with him & JF. Have they met!? Someone needs to introduce them! Haha
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that means i can do it, and i am working on one as soon as we figure out how to do it without pirating the app, it will be released.
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And as far as pirating the app, thats gonna be hard. Its not the actual update.zip your modding, its his apk which could prove to be troublesome. Maybe there's a way to get everyone together who has purchased it & they can share the themed versions??? Just an idea
How do you sign the .apk after you edit it doesn't work with the .apk resign tool.
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How do you sign the .apk after you edit it doesn't work with the .apk resign tool.
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well i signed the demo with no problem, but i am having a problem with the paid version... cant seem to sign it correctly
there should be a meta.inf file in it that you need to remove to resign it so it takes the test keys. Why not just send baron a pm and talk to him? One idea would be to give him the themes to release through his website.
I asked him about whats been talked about here this is what he said.
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My first implementation of themes will be to look on the sdcard for the assets in the same directory structure and filename that they are found in the dxtop.apk.
Something like this: /sdcard/dxtop/theme/res/drawable/clock_dial.png
or
Something like this: /sdcard/dxtop/theme/res/drawable-land/tray_handle_normal.png
Then i asked him this,i hope it could be done.
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O.k i got you so this would solve the problem i love this app bro very cutting edge,hey i have another Q: off topic if you can make your app look for those folders could a app to install themes be created using this format you have come up with or maybe even have it install a whole update.zip?.
If this can be done my whole world will change.
Original Thread: http://dxtop.wikidot.com/forum/t-135037/help-theme-creators
I would love it if we could change themes without having reflash everytime.
He said he going to try to make that happen but he needs to work on it more.

htc clock widget

ok so im trying to figure out how to edit the htc clock widget to open a different clock like desk clock. can this be done?
def's uncommon rom is the only one that i know of that does it. good luck getting him to tell you how. def is one of my favorite dev, i'm not calling him out. all the dev keep there findings to them selves really.
question... how come people don't share there tweeks and hacks anymore?
i remember full threads on reg edits, tweeks, and hacks, that people would share with the world. I actually had threads where i would take requests, and cab them up for people to be able to install easily.
big difference between the WM day to the current droid days.
cody
^be very nice if this were the case. As fully customisable, unique rom, suited to your needs.
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i sent a pm to the owner of the rom and i am awaiting a reply back. im not trying to take credit for something i just dont want to have to run beautiful widgets when i spent all the time on making custom flip clocks.
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def's uncommon rom is the only one that i know of that does it. good luck getting him to tell you how. def is one of my favorite dev, i'm not calling him out. all the dev keep there findings to them selves really.
question... how come people don't share there tweeks and hacks anymore?
i remember full threads on reg edits, tweeks, and hacks, that people would share with the world. I actually had threads where i would take requests, and cab them up for people to be able to install easily.
big difference between the WM day to the current droid days.
cody
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That is a very ****-headed thing to say. I am MORE than willing to help anyone out with reproducing ANY of my mods. I keep nothing secret, and I literally JUST replied to the OP's PM, just before reading your completely asinine comment. My PM box is FULL of questions AND answers with guidance on duplicating mods. Truth be told, I do not POST these modifications and how-to in their own threads for one reason only. I do not have the time to support them.
ok so i can find where the activity is and change it but when i push to the phone nothing changes...
deficitism said:
That is a very ****-headed thing to say. I am MORE than willing to help anyone out with reproducing ANY of my mods. I keep nothing secret, and I literally JUST replied to the OP's PM, just before reading your completely asinine comment. My PM box is FULL of questions AND answers with guidance on duplicating mods. Truth be told, I do not POST these modifications and how-to in their own threads for one reason only. I do not have the time to support them.
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Def, I was not trying to be a **** head and don't see that my post directed anything negative towards you. I was iust stating that a few years ago, members in the Windows mobile forums shared everything. Infact, there were http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/windows-mobile-hacks-tweaks/ forums just for regedits and hacks. I don't find that on the 2010 Android forums.
I didnt mention the guy who posted a zip file that was able to put the 6 bar signal meter in the task bar. He clearly stated that he pulled it out of your Rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8758884&postcount=22 Then your reply saying something about you not liking what he did. To me that said the Android developers didn't want the secret out of the bag. It's not just you. I have ran quite a few roms and really liked certain parts, but didn't keep it for the fact that I didn't like other parts. I have searched for ways to get just the good hacks and tweeks, but there just not there.
For the record..... I am sorry Def. I was not saying that your bad for not posting everything you do. I was just trying to say that there's a good chance he will not get the information he seeks. That's just the way Android forums are going these days.
here is a couple thing i would like to add to my roms, but cant find information on them. correct me if i'm wrong, but people just dont share this stuff.
1. 6 bar signal
2. htc clock widget launching vanilla clock
3. app drawer 5 icons wide,
4. battery percentage in battery icon
yes, def's roms have all of these. that is why i run his rom. at least until he bans me from his roms due to this thread.
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codyppc said:
Def, I was not trying to be a **** head and don't see that my post directed anything negative towards you. I was iust stating that a few years ago, members in the Windows mobile forums shared everything. Infact, there were forums just for regedits and hacks. I don't find that on the 2010 Android forums.
I didnt mention the guy who posted a zip file that was able to put the 6 bar signal meter in the task bar. He clearly stated that he pulled it out of your Rom. Then your reply saying something about you not liking what he did. To me that said the Android developers didn't want the secret out of the bag. It's not just you. I have ran quite a few roms and really liked certain parts, but didn't keep it for the fact that I didn't like other parts. I have searched for ways to get just the good hacks and tweeks, but there just not there.
For the record..... I am sorry Def. I was not saying that your bad for not posting everything you do. I was just trying to say that there's a good chance he will not get the information he seeks. That's just the way Android forums are going these days.
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Well I would like to say he got me started and I found where the attribute is for opening world clock and I have changed it to deskclock but I think I'm doing something wrong with the apk tool because when I push it to the phone and launch it still opens world clock but in the files its self it says deskclock. I wish I knew more about the Android language but sadly I don't and I'm going to keep trying.
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Well I would like to say he got me started and I found where the attribute is for opening world clock and I have changed it to deskclock but I think I'm doing something wrong with the apk tool because when I push it to the phone and launch it still opens world clock but in the files its self it says deskclock. I wish I knew more about the Android language but sadly I don't and I'm going to keep trying.
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i am am really glad to see people like def who is trying to help others instead of just posting there roms.
I am 38 years old, married with 4 kids. i have been on the forums for a long time and know what and how they work. i was not trying to start anything, i love helping people and learning. that is why i like the forums.
i have made 2 apps for windows mobile and never thought of charging for them. one of the apps had over 20,000 downloads. my favorite thing to do was help people learn to make there own.
back on topic....
i would really like to have a zip to flash this htc clock mod. it is one of my favorite parts of def's uncommon rom. i dont have the time anymore to learn a lot of coding. at least i don't think so. kind of new to android so i dont know if it's easy or not. flashing zip files is easy. lol.
^ That would be pretty sweet! Wish everything was easy as flashing a zip.
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KGBxxx said:
^ That would be pretty sweet! Wish everything was easy as flashing a zip.
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i use to cab up rededits for easy installs. i dont know if you know what red edits are or not, but many people wouldnt do them because they were tough. cab files were just like apk for android. zip files are just as easy really. maybe someday.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/windows-m...e-regedits-get-em-here-requests-welcomed.html

[APP] Google docs officially released!!

http://www.conceivablytech.com/7066/products/google-quietly-releases-docs-for-android
Download Google Docs in the Market
I am happy now
Is this an app or is it over the web?
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Is this an app or is it over the web?
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It says right in the linked article, that its a Market app. Or you could have just went to the Market and looked.
Google=win
G2 running Xboarder56's v1.9.5 Stock Gingerbread
Yeah I was stoked about it at first, but this app royally blows. It's seriously NO different than opening your browser on the phone and going to docs.google.com. You still can't edit formulas in spreadsheets (a must since I do my budget on there), and the editing interface is just as bad as the web page, in that you click on a line, have to edit only 1 line at a time and have to save it after editing. Why not just let us edit the cells individually? Thanks for finally getting around to mediocrity Google.
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Yeah I was stoked about it at first, but this app royally blows. It's seriously NO different than opening your browser on the phone and going to docs.google.com. You still can't edit formulas in spreadsheets (a must since I do my budget on there), and the editing interface is just as bad as the web page, in that you click on a line, have to edit only 1 line at a time and have to save it after editing. Why not just let us edit the cells individually? Thanks for finally getting around to mediocrity Google.
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I have to admit that I haven't really explored the app very well. But at least it is a start. Maybe make a comment on the app page and email them as to how they can make it better?
adamhlj said:
I have to admit that I haven't really explored the app very well. But at least it is a start. Maybe make a comment on the app page and email them as to how they can make it better?
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My problem with it is that it's literally no different than just opening Google Docs in your browser. I'm just not sure why it was even made if they were going to do it like this, that's all.
how do you even delete documents you dont want on here???
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how do you even delete documents you dont want on here???
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I can't find a way to. Yet another reason why this app is useless
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How horrible. Hearing this, I'm definitely un installing
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I can't find a way to. Yet another reason why this app is useless
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Hey they updated it so that docs can be deleted. Now just to add the formula functionality and ill be happy.
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The app is supposed to be able to perform OCR on text photographed with the phone. Anyone get this to work very well? Every time I've tried it (on different forms of source text) it just one line of the text, or a few scattered letters. Seems like it could be a handy function, if it worked.
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The app is supposed to be able to perform OCR on text photographed with the phone. Anyone get this to work very well? Every time I've tried it (on different forms of source text) it just one line of the text, or a few scattered letters. Seems like it could be a handy function, if it worked.
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Ah yes, that is a VERY useful thing! Glad to see that there are indeed more features. I just tried it and it's actually very good; I just scanned a page from a book, and although it has a few odd formatting problems, the text was almost perfect. Nice job Google.

"How to" Edit Swype Keyboard

First off, I take no credit in doing this, this is meant to help people if they want to try it. And I am only making thread at request of others members.
If you break your phone I am not responsible, if you have questions though I am more than willing to help as much as I can but this was the first project I did.
There may be easier ways to do this but this is how I did it. If there is, feel free to comment the other ways!
I would like to say thanks to maddoggin and illinois08 for there help in getting mine figured out!
Requirements:
winrar (this is what I prefer but you can use any of your choice)
Original Swype.apk (included in thread and swype needs to be already installed)
image editing software (I personally used gimp and coreldraw) and experience in them.
common sense
What you are actually changing:
To change the look of swype is fairly simple, meaning all you are changing is some .png files in the apk itself to whatever you want them to be.
The only downside is trying to make sure the letter spacing is correct. That is the reason I used coreldraw first to do the spacing and then the background with my flames was in gimp.
First Step:
Using winrar (7zip, etc) open up Swype.apk (I placed on desktop for easier use).
The first folder should say assets. Open up assets. After you open assets, there should be a folder named keyboards. Drag the keyboards folder to desktop.
Once you open the keyboards folder, you will see multiple image files. You have found the files we need to edit! Make sure every png stays in there even if you decided not to edit one of them.
Files SwypeRef_LS_Blue_Shifted_WVGA.png (LS is landscape keyboard) through SwypeRef_PT_Standard_wBlue_VGA.png (PT is portrait, most important for me)
I only edited 4 of the images because these are the main 4 I use and don't use landscape. If you wish you can edit all of them or just 1 .
Second Step:
Using Gimp/or CorelDRAW, you will need to make new images that are 480x320 pixels. At this point, it is totally up to you to get the placements correct and make the image how you want it displayed.
I personally imported the images I was editing to Corel, and basically started a fresh one on top of it so I could get the letter placements correct. You need to make sure when you are done that the image is still 480x320 with the letters not being the end of the size. I made an outline that was 480x320 and placed the letters inside and exported the image that way so it stayed the right size. I would also try to keep the images around 50 kb because mine are around 90 and you noticed some lag when it switched between pngs...
As you are exporting your images, make sure to name them their appropriate names (shifted, capitals, lower case, etc.) which makes it easier to rename them after wards.
Third Step
Once you have all of your images done how you want, I would place them all in their own separate folder.
Now, you will need to open the keyboards folder from earlier and match the images you edited to where they go in "keyboards" and rename your files to the appropriate name and delete its' counter part. Meaning make sure only your image is in keyboards with it renamed to what mode your png represents. And make sure the folder contains every png it did before. They all serve a purpose.
After you have removed all the old pngs and replaced with your renamed images, you will need to open Swype.apk back up and go to assets-> and delete the original keyboards folder. After deleting, move your keyboards folder with your images under assets.
Swype is now edited with your keyboards how you want them!!
Fourth Step:
The only thing left is either adb push Swype.apk to system/app or place on sd card and install with astro,ez,etc.
Another way that is very easy and the way I do it. If you are using a theme, open up on your desktop with winrar. Go to folder system/app and place Swype.apk in app folder. Now flash from recovery and your new and improved swype is ready for action.
I have attached what I made mine look like. Some people may not like how basic it looks and how some of the things are not sized or off correctly but I like it and it works!!
I also added a picture of my custom dropdown which I made in Gimp. If you would like to know how to do one like this send me a PM.
And if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I may not be the best at explaining things thoroughly !
I have been getting a lot of PM asking how to edit swype ...
Are my instructions to complicated? If so, let me know and I will try to revise them a bit and sorry!
Nah it's cool man. I mean i get it. idk about everyone else. I haven't got around to trying it yet but this lets me know what to expect.
Ok well that is good! Thanks for the reply...
I hope that post didn't come off as rude, if you sent me a PM I more than willing to help everyone! I just wanted to make sure it wasn't bad instructions ...
Dude this is really nice, I like how you changed the letters to diferent font. Nice job! You should make some more!
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Thanks man! Like I said since this was my personal one I didn't go all out and it was kind of sloppy but it suits me fine.
I was thinking about it but not sure what people would want! If some people gave me some ideas of what kind of background or font, I would have no problem making it for them.
Now that I know how to do it (with your help) it won't be as painful as before, just time consuming.
I'm not a user of Swype but I certainly commend the effort that you put into this. It came out great.
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I'm not a user of Swype but I certainly commend the effort that you put into this. It came out great.
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Thank you!
This is GREAT!! Thank you for putting this together.
Your are welcome! Let me know if you have any questions!
Just so everyone is clear, the Swype.apk attached to post is the original swype, not my customized one . Because that is what you have to edit.
Just so no one gets confused.
Thank you for this help. I've wanted to be able to change the way mine looked but have been stuck trying to find someone else's work that suited. I've just started modifying mine and what I've got looks awful but that's because I need to learn how to utilize the imaging programs better. I'm sure I can get it and thank you again for the starter.
ficjay said:
Thank you for this help. I've wanted to be able to change the way mine looked but have been stuck trying to find someone else's work that suited. I've just started modifying mine and what I've got looks awful but that's because I need to learn how to utilize the imaging programs better. I'm sure I can get it and thank you again for the starter.
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Awesome! Im glad it helped you! Im sure you will and hope you share with us the finished product!
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jkrough0728 said:
First off, I take no credit in doing this, this is meant to help people if they want to try it. And I am only making thread at request of others members.
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Im thinkin that pull needs a lil animation......
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jkrough0728 said:
I have been getting a lot of PM asking how to edit swype ...
Are my instructions to complicated? If so, let me know and I will try to revise them a bit and sorry!
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I haven't tried yetyet but I get It fine... great job
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Worked great on my3VO thanks.
Anyone have a link to the nexus s4g version
I want to edit my swype to look like that
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I forgot all about this thread lol
I just edited my 3D's swype today because of you guys posting on it and it made me think to do that so thank you
jkrough0728 said:
I forgot all about this thread lol
I just edited my 3D's swype today because of you guys posting on it and it made me think to do that so thank you
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I just themed one today. HOLY CRAP IT'S NOT EASY!
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I just themed one today. HOLY CRAP IT'S NOT EASY!
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I know it can be a pain sometimes... Really depends if you want different font that is the hardest thing ever lol
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Different sound for Nfc.apk

Hello there!
I've been searching high an low for this, and can't seem to find a way to solve this: the sound the phone makes when detects an NFC tag is annoying! I know it is stored inside Nfc.apk and I tried (unsuccessfully) to modify that apk, but... would it be a way to modify it, maybe even easily, through the Xposed framework?
I'm no developer but I'm willing to put all the necesary information together and try to do it myself.
So please help me out here!
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Hello there!
I've been searching high an low for this, and can't seem to find a way to solve this: the sound the phone makes when detects an NFC tag is annoying! I know it is stored inside Nfc.apk and I tried (unsuccessfully) to modify that apk, but... would it be a way to modify it, maybe even easily, through the Xposed framework?
I'm no developer but I'm willing to put all the necesary information together and try to do it myself.
So please help me out here!
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Hi Daniel,
If I remember it right this is quite easy
Have a look at your NFC.apk (/system/app/) and change the standard sound files (/res/raw/start.ogg and /res/raw/end.ogg) to something silent ...don´t forget to backup your nfc.apk first ..
To make it short and clear: create a silent start.ogg and a silent end.ogg file and swap these files with the standard files within the NFC.apk....
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I've done just that and, for whatever reason, Nfc.apk keept on crashing afterwards. I might have done something wrong, dunno...
daniel_loft said:
I've done just that and, for whatever reason, Nfc.apk keept on crashing afterwards. I might have done something wrong, dunno...
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Hmm, are your .ogg files working ?
Not sure if you could have something else done wrong, but this method was discussed several times here on xda... So, perhaps have a look via search if someone else had the same issues.
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Really? I know it seems like your just tweaking an app, but systemically you're pirating someone's app, changing it, and expecting it to work. You'll need to re-sign it, at least (look for that).
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Really? I know it seems like your just tweaking an app, but systemically you're pirating someone's app, changing it, and expecting it to work. You'll need to re-sign it, at least (look for that).
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Pirating someone's app by changing sound files in nfc.Apk? Are you serious? Have you read and understood the thread ? Nfc.apk is part of the firmware of your device ... NOT SOMEONE'S APP.
I think I know the difference between a firmware tweak and pirate apps pretty good, because a lot of people trying to pirate my apps every day and I wouldn't support any pirating.
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Pirating someone's app by changing sound files in nfc.Apk? Are you serious? Have you read and understood the thread ? Nfc.apk is part of the firmware of your device ... NOT SOMEONE'S APP.
I think I know the difference between a firmware tweak and pirate apps pretty good, because a lot of people trying to pirate my apps every day and I wouldn't support any pirating.
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Yes, it came with your phone, but really, it is technically software (perhaps by an older definition), and someone, though on a time-clock, sat at a keyboard and punched it all in. You might be surprised how much freer a development environment we'd have if people started respecting the big, bad corporations much like they do individual developers. Ten years ago M$ eased up after a crack-down when they saw what was going on, for real, on XDA. I just think it's crap that there's a signing process in place to make swapping out a sound file that much more difficult, but you make my point really well. It needs to be there. What it gets down to is where you draw the line on what's pirating and what's not, and without that line being "as soon as the app is altered at all," we end up with a lot of fuzziness. So yeah, decompile, resign. Huge hassle to figure out how to do that the first time.
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Yes, it came with your phone, but really, it is technically software (perhaps by an older definition), and someone, though on a time-clock, sat at a keyboard and punched it all in. You might be surprised how much freer a development environment we'd have if people started respecting the big, bad corporations much like they do individual developers. Ten years ago M$ eased up after a crack-down when they saw what was going on, for real, on XDA. I just think it's crap that there's a signing process in place to make swapping out a sound file that much more difficult, but you make my point really well. It needs to be there. What it gets down to is where you draw the line on what's pirating and what's not, and without that line being "as soon as the app is altered at all," we end up with a lot of fuzziness. So yeah, decompile, resign. Huge hassle to figure out how to do that the first time.
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Nope, I don´t think you got my point. You said "systemically you're pirating someone's app"...And that´s the point I do not agree. And I don´t draw a line between big corporations and individual developers. Pirating has nothing to do whether it´s some big bad corporation or a small independent developer, it only depends on the licensing model and btw. Android is open-source.
I don´t know if someone is running an asop rom or a heavy customized manufacturer rom... however the stock nfc.apk "someone, though on a time-clock, sat at a keyboard and punched it all in" was build with open source in mind, so changing some sound files within the nfc.apk and pirating (e.g. changing copy-right protection and use a paid app without paying ) is something completely different for me ...even if you have to use the same methods to achieve this ...

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