dual boot android winows - Desire General

Hi i saw someware that the hd2 had dual boot windows and android.
as i use android i find it dosnt do all the things i want like tomtom, skype, divx/wmv, allowing you to save apps to the sd card etc, etc basically every thing i used my old phone for so i was wondering before i try n swap this back to a windows based device if there was a dual boot rom or somthing. thanks.

Every week at least one person asks this question. At the moment no, it can't be done. Furthermore, Windows Mobile sucks. I like hacking and modding my phone as much as the next person but can't understand why anybody would want this.
You can save your apps to sd card in Froyo. Instead of tomtom you have Google Nav, which is free. For divx and wmv playback install rockplayer which is also free. Perhaps you have a point on Skype though.
By the way the dual boot on the touch HD is not a "real" dual boot and doesn't run Android natively, it still boots Windows Mobile first and then just autoruns an Android launcher from the SD card.

Thanks for the reply i have to say i like tomtom alot more then google maps, skype are useless but i have credit on there and everyone is on it so free skype to skype calls, i am glad for the info on rockplayer i was under the impression all players were front end only and miss coreplayer as i dont wanna sit around converting vids all day ya know.
yay rockplayer rurles thank you whats the best voip alternative to skype ?
Is that the official froyo release will let me save to sdcard so if i unroot and flash back to original htc rom i can have official froyo with saving to sd card ? thats great if i read you right wares the original rom lol oopsi...
i know windows sucks but my experience with android hasnt completely impressed either. thanks for the reply and the info though mate its truly appretiated
oh and have great weekend

for voip try sipdroid

thank you i will do but if it sucks can i giv you a chinese burn ?

matisamd said:
thank you i will do but if it sucks can i giv you a chinese burn ?
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Fring is a video skype client. Windows is out of the game. It will take 8 min before you want Android back.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

can i ask ware you sent your comment from thanks but does that mean i can use my skype credit with fring ? guess i'll go find out

I used to have a Touch HD , and ran winmo 6.5 ( rom ) and run " andriod " over the top.
It was not actually andriod :
http://www.techhackz.com/2010/05/windroid-android-theme-for-windows.html
windriod.. theams and apps..
There are loads of other apps that run and " look " like andriod.. but are no way near !!!!!!!!!!!!

fanello123 said:
for voip try sipdroid
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I found sipdroid to be a pain in the arse and would not recommend it to anybody ...
Not tried fring though, I will give it a go.
matisamd said:
Is that the official froyo release will let me save to sdcard so if i unroot and flash back to original htc rom i can have official froyo with saving to sd card ? thats great if i read you right wares the original rom lol oopsi...
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You will have to root if you have not done so already do get froyo. It's easy and painless. You will also need to flash a new radio to use these roms or you will get white noise and echo on the line. There's a good selection of froyo roms now in the dev section on this board since the HTC build with Sense was leaked.
Once you have froyo you can either default apps to install to the sd card, or you can go into Settings - Applications - Manage applications - Select App, press "move to sd card"

st0kes said:
I found sipdroid to be a pain in the arse and would not recommend it to anybody ...
Not tried fring though, I will give it a go.
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Very new to the htc desire but have been into voip for a good few years, give 3cxphone a try for voip too. Found the sound quality really good and its easy to set up.

for navigation copilot is great. For skype you can use nimbuzz... use google or bing or ask searches... its not that difficult to find stuff.

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Video CAll for XDA Live in future?

Will there be a chance that we will be getting video call for upcoming version of XDA Live?
Are there difficulty of integrating the function into the ROM?
the XDA Live V0.10 is great and really look forward for V0.20...0.30....
Thank you all for your efforts
I have NO DOUBT that video call will be integrated.....but for now (we are only just about to see version 0.2 remember ) the only way to get video calling on XDA-Live is by reading the thread and installing the appropriate cabs. I did install it and it worked ok but the skin didnt match the rest of XDA-Live so i removed it.
Patience sir the video call option will be available when the time is right.
will it be easy updating to the newer versions of xda live or i need to do a hard reset and reinstallation of all my apps? thanks
joej said:
will it be easy updating to the newer versions of xda live or i need to do a hard reset and reinstallation of all my apps? thanks
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Not sure what you mean, but when you run the installer for the new version it will be exactly like a hard reset......the BEST thing you can ever do is get an activesync account with someone like Mail2Web so all your emails,contacts,tasks and calendar appointments are literally saved ALL THE TIME, then make sure all the files you want to keep are either backed up on your SD card or on the pc. when you hard reset its literally then a case of restoring your GPRS/MMS/activesync settings, reinstalling your programs and restoring your files.
Ive managed a hard-reset and restore in the space of ten minutes.
EDIT:: you dont NEED to have the device syncing over GPRS, it will sync with the online account through activesync on your pc if you wish. but syncing over gprs gives you the added bonus of push email
Neither Video calling nor PTT will be integrated into the ROM, reason being that these apps only have regional popularity (Video not available in N. America, PTT not available in Europe)... No need to clutter the base ROM and reduce the size of program area for apps that half of us would never use.
The solution is this: These two apps will be part of the add-on "toolkit" for XDA Live.
Sleuth255 said:
The solution is this: These two apps will be part of the add-on "toolkit" for XDA Live.
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Well put
Sleuth255 said:
Neither Video calling nor PTT will be integrated into the ROM, reason being that these apps only have regional popularity (Video not available in N. America, PTT not available in Europe)... No need to clutter the base ROM and reduce the size of program area for apps that half of us would never use.
The solution is this: These two apps will be part of the add-on "toolkit" for XDA Live.
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I have applied the patch which makes the video function to work. Was just wondering if we will actually placed the WM6 version in XDA Live!
Anyway, the ROM is great, itz fast and very steady. My softbank has not hanged once since I upgraded.
Cheers!
hi guys,
i got video call working with one a couple of the cabs available in the 1.35 ext rom (as posted above) then skinned the dialer with the 3G iphone dialpad.
Works a treat.
Also, the 3g/U/E/G icons are fixed as well with the 1.35ext rom cabs as above.

Black Dymond but Without Windows live

Would like to request someone to help me create the latest black dymond but remove the Windows Live and HTC Voice Recorder
Best if you could help me create one and TEACH me how to do it, so i can offer my service to the community..thanx
I think you will find there's already a lite version around...
Yes there is one around which was made by me link is in my sig also a whole thread about the Rom which could have been found using the wonderfull search tool that so many seem to forget about and hell everyone knows about google
what difference does it make if those apps are removed?
?
STORAGE SPACE MORE MEMORY... Think my son...
unwired4 said:
I think you will find there's already a lite version around...
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But lite version hasn't office and I can't hear any song (I has install Pocket music).
I like Lite version because it run very fast.
Could you help me about sond and office?
Thanks a lot
austinsnyc said:
STORAGE SPACE MORE MEMORY... Think my son...
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Really? I install everything to SD and never had a storage issue.

Ideas for B&B version 4.2

I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
pna said:
I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
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Here is something that may hold you over, I am still trying to figure out how to use the caller id without the actual slide to unlock, bit here is something to tide you over, jsut a thought
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
kakainis said:
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
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This would be a waste of time and energy for most, these Roms are made to be efficient, the least amount of space used so that you as an individual can place your desired programs, once a rom is built there is no removing/uninstalling of any apps, hence the reason to not put trial versions into a rom, I use several of the above mentioned, but to "Bloat" a rom with them would be ineffecient. Best thing to do is install on your sd card, keep all your initial install cabs in one folder and use that as your rebuild folder. Cheers.
Juice05 said:
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
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This may assist you in this matter, Cheers.
...
Is it not worth remembering that everyone has a different list of killer apps they MUST have on their device?
If Tom & Meschle etc added every app - the rom would only just fit on a 40gb hard disk!!!
To my mind - the idea is that the cooked roms are a basis onto which you install your own apps to make your own device work?
Constanlty asking for new apps to be added to a rom just complicates the issue. Or am I wrong?
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
automated network setup like in the O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE rom
Extended timers & alarms application
I'd like to avoid installing SpbTime on each version
Great job!
OK, i agree, rom should be as slim as possible, but why the hell there is cube, psshutXP, PHM regedit/traylaunch, and office mobile on it then?
Could make an ultra lite wersion. (=
P.S. Dont get me wrong, i think 4.1 is great and it is a lot faster than O2. Just throwing around ideas about how to make it better.
with my original post, I was not really asking for a copy of the app, just would like a much bigger photo to pop up with caller id and liked the look of the inesoft one.
Tom - what do you think?
Just trying to make the ROM easier to use, more efficient.
B&B 4.1 is far better than original ROM from this point of view
TouchFlo for example helps to have everything we need with a single finger move..
Phone app is a lot more usable also.
Perhaps also the possibility to customize HTC Home by default, with more options (number of apps in the launcher, ..)
i don't think that is constructive to add as much apps, i can imagine, when it's released, everbody is shouting "this is not good" and "why did you use this app and not the other one"...and so one. I like it clear, not too much apps...but that's my opinion.
If i want it with all apps included then i start (to learn ) cooking my own ROM... IMHO i am very satisfied with the work that Tom is doing for us all. And 4.1 is just released. Enjoy it and let Tom make a break. He is hard working all the time!
Plugins for new version
Alarms extension (SpbTime style)
USB PenDrive emulator (WMstorage style)
Phone call recording (Audio Recorder style)
Thanks for B&B! Great job!
i have a great idea
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
Improving File access
What I would like to see is the File Dialog Changer, I don't know who has heard of it but it is very good! Usually when you want to save files or open them in any application you get access to you My Documents folder. Only some smart apps like TCPMP and others have the option to access your entire pda.
File Dialog Changer changes the way you access your files in opening and saving them for every application, it's just 50 KB and you can activate / deactivate it in System Settings.
bbracer16valver said:
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
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And about your wish I can only say that there is already Remote Desktop for WM6, I think I've downloaded it in the Wizard forum. Or use PocketVNC, that is the pda version for VNC. I am successfully using that with TightVNC on my computer. I just have to be in range of my WLAN and can turn on my computer by sending a wake on lan signal (not with vnc) and then access my computer through pocketvnc or access the files on my computer.
neilhhardy said:
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
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Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
brainstorming said:
Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
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I think he had a point though. In the whole thread there is not one message of Tom Codon himself. Did you ask what he thinks? Maybe he has a few ideas of his own? After all, it will be his ROM...
Who says it will be B&B v4.2? Why not 4.3 or 5.0? If there will be another version let him take care of the numbers.

help

Hi everybady !
I am new here.My son give me his HTC Hermes(att 8525) and I need your help.
First I want to know is there a room very stable and faster,with no to much app. and programs.Some of rooms wich I use blackt my phone and connect automaticly with data connection when I disconnect of wi-fi (I don't have data plan and I use only wi-fi in home and in work)
I like full scren foto for contacts,you tube,opera mini,weather.and maps.
I hope is somebody to help me.
Thanks in advance:
hi,there are many great roms here,i think every one is good.
you can test the roms by joshkoss /TAI_Sw /kareem9nba/abusalza / farres
but these roms don't include all apps that u like.
you can find them in the forum.
[31Oct08] WM6.1 TOUCH Build20924 V27 from Dvha79_ddt [Basic & Full] NetCF3.5 is very ood
ok
Thank you monkeyfocus !
I will start test these rooms.
HARD SPL YOUR DEVICE 1st!!!!!
Do some reading so we won't see your 3rd post with a title like "HELP, bricked Hermes".
Try this - http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/upgrades/hardspl
and this - http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=13&Itemid=28
Its better to know a bit about the risks first than to jump out of a plane then realise you forgot your parachute,,,,,
Also,there is a ROM request thread where you can ask for a ROM that has what you want.
Thank's both of you.
I check and I already have hardspl.
I'd suggest you try an M2d rom... M2D has got everything you need in an easy to use UI except fullscreen contacts n works really great if you dont install alot of programs. I saw a nice one with a really nice matching fingerfriendly contacts app too.
After I had try some rooms with touch build or M2D, with miscellaneous problems each every one,and especially last night with V15 dark winter G2 when I almost lost my phone,I decide to use CRC-13.3 normal.
To now this room works very good and I think to keep it.Here is device update with good app or programs.
I really wants full screen contacts and I don't know work with these room and where can I find it ?
Regards !
theodhorb said:
After I had try some rooms with touch build or M2D, with miscellaneous problems each every one,and especially last night with V15 dark winter G2 when I almost lost my phone,I decide to use CRC-13.3 normal.
To now this room works very good and I think to keep it.Here is device update with good app or programs.
I really wants full screen contacts and I don't know work with these room and where can I find it ?
Regards !
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Get iContact off Device Update in that rom.
theodhorb said:
Hi everybady !
I am new here.My son give me his HTC Hermes(att 8525) and I need your help.
First I want to know is there a room very stable and faster,with no to much app. and programs.Some of rooms wich I use blackt my phone and connect automaticly with data connection when I disconnect of wi-fi (I don't have data plan and I use only wi-fi in home and in work)
I like full scren foto for contacts,you tube,opera mini,weather.and maps.
I hope is somebody to help me.
Thanks in advance:
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I personally like the CRC roms. They have a lot of room for additional programs, are very stable and fast. They don't come with much so you need to find programs you like and add them. His roms are UC Complaint (a script that will install all the cabs you have specified upon flashing).
For full screen foto for contacts use icaller. It's free. Search for it using the "search using google" feature. Plus the author gives a lot of support. It's also easy.
Opera Mini is free. Check out JZ's Browser which will allow you to use all the browsers you want with ease.
The easiest free weather program is http://tonaya.com/products/wtg/index.php here. It works, doesn't take up much space but doesn't have all the fancy icons either. It does have a today screen plugin. There are others such as SPB, Secil (free and here on this site), which are more graphic intensive and work well.
Google Maps is free. Just go to google and download the latest one.
If you want youtube and music I suggest CorePlayer. It isn't free, but it's worth it since it will work with bluetooth stereo headsets, play all type of movie files (avi, divx, mkv, mov, wma, etc..) and all types of music files (mp3, lossless mp3, etc...) and has a built in youtube player.
These are my suggestions. Also if you want to have a lot of space after flashing your rom stay away from the manilla/touchflo 2d roms. They all come with tons of programs and don't leave a lot of space to install other programs.
Remember to read what the others have suggested before flashing so you don't brick your phone. CID/SIM unlock it with HardSPL before you flash a custom rom. It's easy and instruction manuals are available. Also if you flash a BIG Storage Rom later, follow Dr. Puttingham's direction of flashing a stock rom, a new radio and then the custom rom you chose to avoid the phone being unstable. You get a lot more internal storage so it's worth the extra 10 minutes.
Lastly, please read, search, ask questions and learn. Beyond that get the biggest microsd card you can to store all the great programs and goodies you will accumulate. 16gb are out now but the 8gbs are a great starting point space and price point wise.
Peace and welcome to XDA-Devs.
Just remember with the UC compliance, any app installed by the script is installed to the phone memory, NOT the sd card...
Hello!
Yes,and I like CRC roms and it is working good and from device update I finde
opera mini,google maps and some other good app.
I think I made my minde for these room.
Thanks all of you for helping and advice me.

A few Desire questions

Hi, im thinking on buying the Desire but i have a few questions about it before i do so:
1. One thing that is bothering me is that i read theres no Divx support. As most of my files are AVI format, does it mean that if i wanna play my AVI format movies it wont play it? If thats true, is it going to change in the near future? ( which i really hope so)
2. Since it runs Android, does it mean i can forget about using MS Office and MS messenger or any other MS application?
thanks for any answer
3. Is there an option to use IGO 8 on the desire?
divx works great with rockplayer
Thanks for the answer.
Anyone else can answer my other 2 questions?
seriously you would rather take the time to create an xdadevs forum account than do some basic google searches?
1. already answered
2. there are many free msn clients. it comes with an app that can read Office file formats, but you want to create or edit documents you'll need to buy an app
3. doesn't look like it's available for WVGA officially..
mazinya said:
Hi, im thinking on buying the Desire but i have a few questions about it before i do so:
1. One thing that is bothering me is that i read theres no Divx support. As most of my files are AVI format, does it mean that if i wanna play my AVI format movies it wont play it? If thats true, is it going to change in the near future? ( which i really hope so)
2. Since it runs Android, does it mean i can forget about using MS Office and MS messenger or any other MS application?
thanks for any answer
3. Is there an option to use IGO 8 on the desire?
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2. There is quick office app present in the phone, you can use it to view office files. You need to buy documents to go or a similar application to be able to edit files.
3.igo is avaiable for android.
I read that HTC said there will be an update for Divx and 720p, but that was a few months ago, but i can see nothing is changed yet. It feels like it wont happen.
mazinya said:
I read that HTC said there will be an update for Divx and 720p, but that was a few months ago, but i can see nothing is changed yet. It feels like it wont happen.
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Nothing officially as yet from HTC.
However, we have 720p recording as part of the Froyo with Sense leak, and we have DivX via Rockplayer.
Regards,
Dave
I understand that there is also no Hebrew fonts for the Desire. I do not need the phone to have a Hebrew menus, but i would like to be able to write text messages or email in Hebrew and if i understood correctly, this is not possible unless i root the Desire (which i prefer not to) and install Hebrew fonts myself.
If all of the above is correct, is there a chance that Froyo will support Hebrew fonts?
Also, Is there an official date when Froyo will be out?
mazinya said:
I understand that there is also no Hebrew fonts for the Desire. I do not need the phone to have a Hebrew menus, but i would like to be able to write text messages or email in Hebrew and if i understood correctly, this is not possible unless i root the Desire (which i prefer not to) and install Hebrew fonts myself.
If all of the above is correct, is there a chance that Froyo will support Hebrew fonts?
Also, Is there an official date when Froyo will be out?
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[Face_palm] As stated in a previous post: 1. A forum search would find most if not all of your answers. 2. No official word from HTC as of yet, other than Q3 2010.

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