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I sold my HD2 on Thursday and let me say first off that I have no regrets whatsoever: I absolutely love this phone. Before I sold the HD2 I played some music tracks on both devices through the loudspeaker and headphones jack and noticed a HUGE differential in volume.....I thought the HD2 speaker was pretty tinny but it was at least audible; the Desire speaker volume is incredibly underpowered...being practically inaudible in a moderately noisy environment. This problem seems to extend even as far as the headphones socket since some of the songs I was unable to play at full volume on the HD2 for fear of bursting my eardrums are simply not loud enough for me on the Desire.
Am I the only person to think the volume levels are too low? Is there perhaps a way to increase the pre amp levels. It's as quiet as the first generation iPhone which was REALLY BAD.
Any thoughts from anyone here?
Hi there - I've been searching online to see if anyone else has been having this problem and came across your post.
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example.
I was looking forward to using it - and Spotify, in partcular - as a replacement for my aging iPod. But there's just no way.
I can't believe this is common to every phone, as surely there would be more people complaining about it. Are there different firmware versions knocking about? It's got me pretty frustrated.
Ok this is not nice, speaker volume is very important to me. This is the first time I see somebody be this negative about it though...
Damn..
Further, you coming from the HD2, any more thoughts you want to share about the switch?
How is the 4.3 inch to 3.7 inch 'jump'?
Kind regards
Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
Don't have the device yet but in a video review the guy said the speaker was pretty loud, so it's probably only a software problem
chipshop said:
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example..
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Juste buy in-ear headphones ! your ear will thanks you, pushing the volume to 100db because the tube is masking noise : not a good idea believe me.
I too, coming from an iPhone, find the headphone volume painfully low.
I use an under speaker pillow to listen to podcasts without disturbing the wife, and on the iPhone she'd sometimes complain that she could hear it. Now with the Desire I find that sometimes I can't hear it and that's at full volume.
I know this is probably obvious but I take it you have gone through. Audio settings
And maxed the volume? And checked any volume controls on headphones? If both set to max
And still not loud then the handset is faulty so get it replaced
Now!!
Mine set to max would be at ear bleeding levels!!
The speaker quality isn't great, but considering I don't use them that much it is good enough for me.
Am a little surprised with the headphone issues, considering that I have my volume set just under halfway and it is more than loud enough for me.
I am using my Sennheiser earphones, but the volume is fine with the supplied HTC ones too.
what kind of bit-rates are you using for music? ... 128? or more, ... as the quality effects the loudness somehow I believe.
try experimenting with different bit rates and see how that goes
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Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
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I think this might be due to new UE regulations about maximum volume in mobile devices, though im not 100% sure if its already in the system.
However Im pretty sure that in couple days/weeks there will be some hacks/apps/ to change that
So have I got a faulty phone?
Or are people just overly forgiving??
Everything is set to max. I've also noticed that the Mic quality in videos is also shockingly poor in terms of volume. I wonder if all of these functions are shared by the same chipset.
leoni, I'm having just the same problem. I think it must be a problem with some of these phones. I can't believe that people are just being overly forgiving.
I'm not looking to push the volume up too high, but if I can't hear it when there's a little background noise going on, then that's a serious design flaw.
I'd like to do a comparison with another Desire at some point, hopefully I'll bump into someone using one soon...
Just to answer some of the above questions/suggestions:-
I'm using MP3s in 256k bit rate format. All volume controls are set to max and there is no volume control on the headphones I am using.
I'm sending mine back. I'm due an upgrade on Monday anyway so I'll test one in the shop and see if It's the same. The headphone volume is the main issue for me; its just too low.
I also think that the volume is way too low. Just out of curiosity, could this be a Rom issue? I'm using the stock TMO Rom. To the people who think it's loud enough, which Rom are you on?
My biggest problem is with the volume through the headphones....speaker volume I can live with, though it is crap and tinny
I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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are you on TMO ROM?
Loud speaker isn't audible above the sound of my shower, which is a real shame as coming from a n95 8gb the loud speaker was great. Oh well. I'm a forgiving type!
I have found music volume to be pretty low but I'm fairly convinced it is a software/Rom issue because the volume in some applications is loud! Doesn't made much sense. Running T-mob here.
I remember the days with my touch. All the hacks and toys I had with it. At the time the phone was awesome, my iPhone killer
One thing that sucked was the speaker.. for one including this phone I can never understand how a video device has the speaker In the rear, but whatever with this phone it works, he touch not so much, it was pretty bad, so I use to hack it so it would amplify the speaker, so much that I busted it 3 times had had to get 3 new phones...
I am not asking about the loudness with this phone, even though I see some apps that increase the volume, I don't need it, but what I'm asking is.... since my touch I am always scared when a video or game plays loud. I am always thinking that the speaker is going to blow... does this speaker hold up? I am more scared about the alarm (stock) as it can go off sometimes for 10 minutes before I wake up LOL.....
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fastfed said:
I remember the days with my touch. All the hacks and toys I had with it. At the time the phone was awesome, my iPhone killer
One thing that sucked was the speaker.. for one including this phone I can never understand how a video device has the speaker In the rear, but whatever with this phone it works, he touch not so much, it was pretty bad, so I use to hack it so it would amplify the speaker, so much that I busted it 3 times had had to get 3 new phones...
I am not asking about the loudness with this phone, even though I see some apps that increase the volume, I don't need it, but what I'm asking is.... since my touch I am always scared when a video or game plays loud. I am always thinking that the speaker is going to blow... does this speaker hold up? I am more scared about the alarm (stock) as it can go off sometimes for 10 minutes before I wake up LOL.....
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I really don't think you'll ever find what you're looking for.
1) When your alarm goes off, get up and turn it off
2) If you're concerned about loud audio killing the speaker, plug in some headphones.
I may be coming across as an ass but I'm seriously not trying to be. You modded and destryed 3 phones before, just accept that you need to change your habits or pay the price for destroying things before their time.
I've never had an issue with the speaker but, except for the alarm, I really don't use it much.
I plug in some pc speakers when im playin music or videos, there are few that dont need batteries or wall plug.
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I really don't think you'll ever find what you're looking for.
1) When your alarm goes off, get up and turn it off
2) If you're concerned about loud audio killing the speaker, plug in some headphones.
I may be coming across as an ass but I'm seriously not trying to be. You modded and destryed 3 phones before, just accept that you need to change your habits or pay the price for destroying things before their time.
I've never had an issue with the speaker but, except for the alarm, I really don't use it much.
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Maybe you didn't understand my post.. I was writing it from my phone and it was my first time..
I blew 3 phone speakers before.. The phone as I said WAS NOT THE EVO, it was the TOUCH..
The speaker on THAT phone sucked..
Again.. With that phone (the Touch) it was very common for the speaker to go bad.
So again, do you hear(no pun) a lot of people breaking their speaker on the EVO?
How is the speaker on the EVO?
You say you plug headphones in while playing a video, is that because youre afraid of blowing the speaker?
I'll give you my non-professional opinion. It's tinny (no that's not a typo). No bass. I could easily see it getting blown if you pump bass heavy songs especiallyif you're using an EQ. That being said, I have used it for music and found it plenty loud
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I've used gentle alarm since the phone's release week and have mp3s playing at 80% system volume as my alarms. So far my speaker has had no issues whatsoever. Like wuclan48 says you're probably gonna be ok if you don't use it extensively with heavy bass or at super high volumes.
As for alarms going off for 10 minutes, my mp3 playlist plays at 7, 715, 730 for 10 minutes each assuming i don't turn them off, which i normally don't cuz i'm a lazy bastard that likes to sleep in.
Don't intentionally push the speaker and you will most likely be fine.
Anyone had issues with music popping/clicking on your GSII? I'm using a middle of the road set of Klipsch IMAGE S4 earbuds and they always sound great except on this phone, also, my LG G2X doesn't do this with the headphones so I know they are fine. It's rather loud as well, like left my ears ringing loud. (Disabled DSP manager and it is still painfully loud)
For specifics, I'm using the newly released Google music, it's the only music player on my device. I have DSP manager installed on both of my phones.
Rom is Juggernaut 2.0 with the latest bullet Kernel but it did this before the Kernel.. and I'm 99% sure it happened before the root/rom and I just blew it off as the song.
I know it does this both on streamed music as well as music on the phone that i have confirmed is clean on other sources. (MP3 at 320kbps). I'm curious if this is just a me thing because I've also noticed a cycling stutter on my phone that wipes and new ROMS has not resolved. It's so faint you can barely notice it unless playing a game, ESPECIALLY the new Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. It'll do it's little stutter and by the time the game catches up your smeared all over a wall. Not a framerate issue at all as it's completely random and never seems to reoccur in the same place even when all other conditions are the exact same.
Anywho, thanks for reading and indulging me.
Noticed today but on stockmusic player,sounds like its.skipping
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clear cache and the dalvik cache
Happens to me too, I though it was just the music player I was using.
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I was getting it often after going back to the stock kernel for better battery life, I did the above and it went back to normal.
It happens to me whenever i enable dsp manager and if i receive a notification when playing music
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the button control feature of the 4-pole 3.5mm jack in the phone. Personally, I don't use anything with buttons(headphones or the like), so I could do without it, but that's just what I've noticed.
Certain connections will do this on my phone. I can't plug my phone into the head unit on my saab without the music skipping like a mofo. But if I plug it in through my wife's mazda5 with the same cable, no problems.
I think maybe the 4-pole jack is just picking something up that isn't there.
Previous posters: Have you tried using different headphones to try and recreate the problem? I have a set of shure e2c's, some seinnheiser headphones, and some standard apple earphones and they all seem to work very well. The only connection problem I have is in my 2007 saab 9-3.
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I personally have done this many times and it hasn't helped. It does it on the stock headphones that came with it as well as my stand alone headphones.
I went back to the stock kernel and it still does this, reflashed everything, same issue still.
As a side note I'm a bit OCD so every time I always clear everything, wipe data, etc. I'm very meticulous...to a fault.
Maybe use the stock rom, customs are useless..
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the button control feature of the 4-pole 3.5mm jack in the phone. Personally, I don't use anything with buttons(headphones or the like), so I could do without it, but that's just what I've noticed.
Certain connections will do this on my phone. I can't plug my phone into the head unit on my saab without the music skipping like a mofo. But if I plug it in through my wife's mazda5 with the same cable, no problems.
I think maybe the 4-pole jack is just picking something up that isn't there.
Previous posters: Have you tried using different headphones to try and recreate the problem? I have a set of shure e2c's, some seinnheiser headphones, and some standard apple earphones and they all seem to work very well. The only connection problem I have is in my 2007 saab 9-3.
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I have used 3 different headphones, got same result until i disabled dsp manager
two headphones had buttons on them
I had it too. My issue was I didn't push the jack all the way into the phone. I don't know if that's anyone's issue here, but maybe it is. I was actually afraid of breaking the phone when I got it. I only pushed the jack until I felt resistance. I later realized I had to push hard enough to make it "click", and the bottom of the Jack touches the phone. There should be no gap in between.
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I noticed this issue, but only when I was using a music player other than the stock or Google music ones. I've since only been using Google music.
Damn guys that sucks. Im on bullet kernel as well but have been using my phone to listen to hella EDM that's all in 320kbps and haven't noticed anything. Im actually using music playback in Google music right now... Still perfect. Ill try stock and post if i can reproduce the issue.
Sorry for posting even tho i don't have the issue... But music quality is very important to me and the functionality of my phone so i will keep a close eye on this thread especially since a few of you are running on bullet like me.
Who is using a ROM with this issue and who is not?
I for one am stock.
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I listen to MOG all of the time, streaming and cached songs @ 320Kbps MP3 or 256 AAC and no popping. I did notice it after I went back to the stock kernel, it was happening every 30 seconds and it was very frustrating.
I've definitely noticed this issue using Pandora and less frequently in Spotify.
Well I've not had the issue in about a week, which is really odd. Normally I've had it at least once a day but not since the new Google music update. It may have been the old Leaked google music beta that caused it, after the update it hasn't happened.
I guess its resolved, not really sure but cautiously optimistic.
I will say this, the audio chipset in this phone leaves a LOT to be desired.
bobbyphoenix said:
I had it too. My issue was I didn't push the jack all the way into the phone. I don't know if that's anyone's issue here, but maybe it is. I was actually afraid of breaking the phone when I got it. I only pushed the jack until I felt resistance. I later realized I had to push hard enough to make it "click", and the bottom of the Jack touches the phone. There should be no gap in between.
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I was experiencing the same thing until I read your message and gave mine a good push to "click" it in and the pausing/skipping/popping completely stopped.
Thanks Bobby
Sometimes it's dust that gets in the headphone jack. I had the same problem years ago with my old Palm Pre and recently experienced it with my SG2 and fixed it doing the following:
1. Take a q-tip and rip most of the cotton off of one end so that there's just a slight film of cotton left on the tip.
2. Dip the stripped tip in alcohol and then squeeze out the excess alcohol (you want it moist not soaking).
3. With the phone OFF, stick the q-tip in the jack and spin it, which will effectively clean the jack of dust and any other debris.
4. Wait about 15 minutes for the alcohol inside the jack to evaporate, then turn on your phone and the problem should be gone.
had the same problem here
Is anyone getting these slight clicking noise from the speaker whenever the phone is in use, like opening an app for example. I got my phone phone from the launch event (5th in line!! ) and i only noticed when it was really quiet in my room these noises came from the speakers.
To check, open an app and quickly put your ear to the speaker and I hear a hissing noise then a soft click. Always happens when i open an app!
I went back to Phones4U, the guy could tell it was faulty so I got it replaced..now same problem!! (not as loud as before, but still there)
Anyone having the same problem? can anyone check for me? this can't be normal!
saffad said:
Is anyone getting these slight hissing noise from the speaker whenever the phone is in use, like opening an app for example. I got my phone phone from the launch event (5th in line!! ) and i only noticed when it was really quiet in my room these noises came from the speakers.
To check, open an app and quickly put your ear to the speaker and I hear a hissing noise then a soft click. Always happens when i open an app!
I even went back, the guy could tell it was faulty so I got it replaced..now same problem!! (not as loud as before, but still there)
Anyone having the same problem? can anyone check for me? this can't be normal!
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Yeah I have that problem. It's one of those things that you don't really notice until you know it's there, then you hear it all the time
Someone on another forum posted they had the same, so it might not be an isolated problem.
Isn't that just the touch click?
Try Settings/Sound/Touch sounds.
Personally I rather like it..
TonyHoyle said:
Isn't that just the touch click?
Try Settings/Sound/Touch sounds.
Personally I rather like it..
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No, I have that turned off.
It happens whenever the speaker is used - when the sound stops there is a quiet hiss, followed by a pop as the speaker switches off.
Try it - hold the speaker right up to your ear, and use the volume rocker to hear the beep. Afterwards there is hiss followed by a pop.
It's not noticeable enough to be an issue (for me) in normal use, but you can hear it if you're in a quiet room.
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No, I have that turned off.
It happens whenever the speaker is used - when the sound stops there is a quiet hiss, followed by a pop as the speaker switches off.
Try it - hold the speaker right up to your ear, and use the volume rocker to hear the beep. Afterwards there is hiss followed by a pop.
It's not noticeable enough to be an issue (for me) in normal use, but you can hear it if you're in a quiet room.
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I can hear it on my G2x... I'm sure it's not an issue and your just being paranoid because you dropped a whole bunch of cash on a new phone
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Isn't that just the touch click?
Try Settings/Sound/Touch sounds.
Personally I rather like it..
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The click comes like 3 seconds after you make an input, so it doesn't sound right and it just sounds random (and annoying).
thanks tho!
Edit: Turning off Touch sounds, seems to stop it, whenever im using the phone..but yeah still happens whenever the speaker is in use but that i can live with that!
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No, I have that turned off.
It happens whenever the speaker is used - when the sound stops there is a quiet hiss, followed by a pop as the speaker switches off.
Try it - hold the speaker right up to your ear, and use the volume rocker to hear the beep. Afterwards there is hiss followed by a pop.
It's not noticeable enough to be an issue (for me) in normal use, but you can hear it if you're in a quiet room.
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Happens with my OG Droid. I only started noticing it one late night when for no reason I had the speaker right up next to my ear.
I don't think it's anything to worry about
KiNG OMaR said:
I can hear it on my G2x... I'm sure it's not an issue and your just being paranoid because you dropped a whole bunch of cash on a new phone
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Heh, that's certainly got something to do with it
As I say it's not really an issue, and it's not unique to this phone (as you point out). Just one of those annoying niggles - it depends on how sensitive you are to these things
Yes - I have the same problem with my new Galaxy Nexus. In fact, even if it's not a problem for most people, I'd say it is a problem for Samsung because I returned my phone yesterday and got it swapped out. The new one has the same problem, so I assume it's an Android software problem rather than a hardware glitch.
So that's at least two returns caused by this problem. Hope we get a fix at some point!
p.s. Phone is great by the way, even with the annoying click.
Guys
This is hardware problem. And it happens on most of the speakers however its more or less noticeable on some devices.
I have quite good quality monitors (studio speakers) and i can hear something hissing in the back.
Let me put it that way.
Every speaker needs electricity to work. The noise you are hearing is the actual electric current coming through the speakers. The sudden pop and lack of the hiss means that speaker has been turned off. For obvious reasons there is no point for the speaker to work constantly....
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I can't hear any click when I plug headphones in, so maybe you're right - the click could be when the amplifier that powers the internal speaker turns off...
However, for some reason I still get a click if the phone is in silent mode. I guess putting it in silent mode doesn't guarantee it keeps the amplifier turned off.
I hope it's just the speakers; the DAC in my HD2 hissed for a few seconds after any sounds even through my headphones. The hissing was always there when there was sound. It was quite depressing. I'm hoping for a good DAC in the Galaxy nexus.
I've got a click (sounds just like a quite speaker pop) from the back cover.
Turn your GN over and push the back cover, on the "Google" logo (below the camera flash). Then quickly release your finger.
Sometime it can happen with only the lightest of touches. If i put my phone down on my chest, the pick it up.
If you look really closely you can see the cover moving just below the camera surround.
Issue has been reported to google.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22307
I have this issue on my gnex. Its def a sw problem. I took the back cover off and still have the issue.
slightly different, but also hiss related...
my rezound does the same thing when headphones(or aux to car) are plugged in and nothing is playing. once you start to play something you don't notice it. and its a confirmed issue.
It's a hardware issue guys, depends on the audio chip I believe. Impedance-related.
Here is the other thread with this annoying sound
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20087759
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It isn't just on the speaker either. Atleast on my Galaxy Nexus, I can hear it when listening on high end professional in-ear headphones. I can verify that it is almost certainly a signal isolation problem. The activity causes the DAC (the thing that makes a digital signal into an analog signal that speakers and headphones need) to kick on for a few seconds and until it shuts off you can hear the noise coming out of the DAC. It's pretty substantial on mine though, so I'm wondering if I got a bad unit. I'll have to stop by a Verizon Wireless store and plug in to the display unit to see if it is any better. I never noticed this on my Galaxy S (Fascinate).
My unit is also affected, it was made in Vietnam. I checked the Google Code issue tracker link (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22307) and I can see many people confirming this also. This is definitely not how the speaker should work - I checked another Samsung phone (SGS II) and there's no such "clicks". There's some silent noise but not the click.
I can hear it from the speaker only, not through the headphones.
I think many users are unaware of the issue because it is often only noticeable in a silent environment.
Yes getting same issue. Have tried different ROMS to no avail
I have a really big issue with my HTC One V, since i used to listen to a lots of music on my old phone, i hoped the sound quality would be at least decent on One V, but i hear a lot of background noise in my earphones, not the stock ones ofc, since they are really crappy, i have t-Jays One, which quality is rather superior, but on this phone i hear a lot of cracing noise, like some magnetic/electronic distortion, wich is unbelievably annoying, and it's hearable even with music off, right after i plug in my earphones, is that a reason to give my phone back, or have it repaced? (European version)
If I turn the volume up 100% I can hear a (very) slight amount of noise, but other than that the quality is excellent with zero cracking.
i don't have that issue with stock earphone..
i dont hv, my one v play music really good
Thanks guys, i'll just get it replaced, i guess you can lock this thread...
I have a One V with me and it too has a lot of background noise through the headphone jack. With the headphones plugged in there is no noise but the moment some sound starts playing on the phone you can clearly hear it and it's constant regardless of the volume of the music or whatever you are listening to. While you should get your phone replaced, there is a chance that the new one might have the same issue.
I had a terrible noise problem as well, but over time it slowly decreases. Noise is not yet completely lost, but now is in a tolerant level.
Interesting, is not it?
I have it too. Sometimes noise is so annoying it makes me want to trow off the phone. Noise is present even at boot sound. Changing headphones helps nothing. I had SGS earlier and it had perfect sound with it's wolfson dac, so I'm very disappointed now.
Hi there, I just bought this phone and I'm having the same problem... Did anyone find a solution? Anyone got it replaced and solved the problem?
I think I'm replacing mine as well, this noise problem is really anoying...