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If any of you of you guys are like me you've been waiting for BlackBerry connect to work for the blueangel forever. I have downloaded the software and fiddled with it a million times, the fact of the matter is that it only works for Tmobile UK right now. The rest of us are screwed. But there is an alternative, microsoft has recently release pocket MSN, it works exactly like the blackberry web client, except that after the initial 19.99 fee it is completely FREE!!!!!!. Unlike other push email alternatives where although you might get a few months grace period they are pay services. Pocket MSN pushes your hotmail account directly to your phone, and no text messaging BS like activesync AUTD. its actual push email. You can either foward your email to hotmail, or have your hotmail account search you pop mail boxes. And plus since microsft makes the phones operating system and has access to the source codes, Pocket MSN works seamlessly with the phone. Now that I finish telling the benefits, the downsides is the fact that there is no alert sound when an email comes in, or at least I dont know how to set it up. Another downside is the fact the there is no way for it to push you coporate email, unless you foward your coporate email to hotmail, which is a security risk. Another downside is having to create a hotmail account, but then again you have to create a blackberry account when using blackberry web client. The last downside the I can think of is the 19.99 freaking fee!!!, I guess a one time payment is better the monthly payments that most companies charge. Tell me what you guys think, I think its worth though
^-- thanks for the infomation. This would be an asset so long as it isn't a spamware of some kind and as long as I don't get any spams from MSN.
Is there a email server script that would do the same thing if one owns there own unix server? I will research on this, but just in case someone out there knows the answer.
So what your telling me is that:
* Pocket MSN works with my companies Corporate eMail services
* Pocket MSN works with my companies iPager (Interactive Pager) service
* that my companies multi thousand dollar BES infrastructure can utilize Pocket MSN
* That As a message is delivered to the system you get a notification
* That as a message is delivered to a user I get a notification
* As the user reads the message I get a notification
* As the user deletes the message I get a notification
* That it is instant and ready for corporate usage
* That I can attach an intranet link (not InterNET) and the receiving party can then access that link over the PocketMSN network
Or are you telling me that you nor your company do not highly depend on these features..... because ours (Large telecom company) lives, breathes, and dies by these little devices.
Thanks for your advice on PocketMSN, however I WANT and Need Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC, regardless if you are happy with PocketMSN or not.
I hope all that use and depend on the blackberry devices will continue to borrow, test, and hack the software until one of us gets it working. That's what this board is for.
Raptor
Hmm, I don't think Pocket MSN is implying on changing the face of such technology. Some of us home users don't have the capital to run a service such as yours, nor do we even use your network. I am looking for a free altrenative that works correctly with no string attached. The key word is "alternatrive", NOT replacement.
Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
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Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
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I wasn't aware PocketMSN was pushware. Refuse to pay £20 for the software when it will be free with magneto devices.
Patience on BB - I have been using the latest version, and all indications are that it's mostly good.... as far as BB ever goes on a non-RIM device....
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Might not be BES but still great software
Hey Raptor, yeah ok I understand that if your going to use blackberry to the fullest extent, then pocket MSN or any alternative does not nearly match up. But alot of us only use the most fundamental features of blackberry email, and for that this software seems to be more then enough, as a matter of fact, for those of us who only use blackberry web client, I find Pocket MSN is just as good if not better, paying 20 bucks for the software really sucked especially for a cheap ass like me. But I am not paying any extra monthly fee. Which is good. So this software might not be suitable for your coporate "MEGA" company. But for blackberry Web Client users this software is a great substitute maybe a replacement, I am not sure why microsoft did not offer this for free. Usually when microsoft tries to bully other companies to the ground (Lotus 123, Netscape, Real Audio) they give it away.
Not as cheap as me... Whenever I need to check my Hotmail, I go to http://mobile.msn.com/pocketpc/ and read my Hotmail for free...
Hope the Pocket MSN pushed email feature comes with message notification. If not, it's no better than going to the link above...
For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!
For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!
Questions About Pocket MSN
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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Does it impact battery life, yes i guess it does. Because technically your leaving your gprs data connection on all the time. But if you compare it to checking your email every ten minutes then its way better. AS for audible alerts i have not been able to figure that out as of yet. And yes i am positive that there are no text messages, it is purely data based
To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
Thanks for the quick reply. One more question. Do you know whether you can specify a "reply to" address for replying to messages recieved on your device via Hotmail? The reason that I ask is that if I go this route, I will set up a Hotmail account and have it pull my mail from my normal email accounts via POP/IMAP, but when I reply by phone, I don't want the Hotmail address showing. I know that I can do this with the standard Pocket Outlook mailbox and with the autd/exchange solution.
If this works for me, I guess the crappy thing is that it will cost me about 40 bucks. 19 fo Pocket MSN, and then another 19 yearly for Hotmail Plus since, as far as I can tell, Microsoft now makes you get a Plus account if you want to be able to have your Hotmail account pull from POP/IMAP. Kind of crappy, if you ask me. Yahoo!'s free service includes POP/IMAP.
David
Couldn't you just set up a forward from your pop3 account to hotmail?
Yes, forwarding will work. But then if I hit "reply" to the message, it will send the reply to my POP account rather than the actual sender -- at least, that's what I assume will happen.
To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
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Obviously you do not understand.... with better communications programs we are much closer to curing caner and a host of other diseases....
Probably like many of my colleagues blessed with the job of supporting these shiny new phones, I'm coming under increasing pressure to find an Exchange solution that actually works... I have therefore started the process of evaluating Nitrodesk's TouchDown to see if it provides a better solution.
I will report my findings in this thread and I invite others to do the same. We need to know if, for the corporate user, the $20 fee is not only worth it but necessary.
Yes, do it.
Just getting back on this. Generally speaking, it was a no-brainer. Touchdown works. The built in client doesn't.
Couple of niggles:
Touchdown seems to have a larger storage requirement.
Contacts have to be copied (a one-time manual operation) to the phone before you get all the benefits of contact sync.
Massive array of settings and options may be slightly overwhelming for some users although generally they can be ignored.
Emails can only be composed in plain text. Ditto signatures. Rendering of HTML emails received is good though.
Apart from that, Touchdown is better in almost every respect (once you get used to the change of interface).
Interesting take.
I'm using a Desire with the stock sync apps connecting into Exchange 2007 at work and Gmail for home. Everything worked out of the box (well, email, contacts, calendar). I miss being able to search the server, but the functionality works pretty much flawlessly....at least as good as my old WM6 smartphone, anyway The built in calendar is awesome...I love having a single calendar showing items from three different accounts!
What doesn't work for you in the built-in client? Your blanket "the built-in client doesn't work" is a little harsh, to say the least...
Daern
The only thing i don't like about the exchange sync is that i can't seem to subscribe to my folders within my mailbox that I can if i set it up as an IMAP account. Other than that, the inbuilt one does everything that I want it to
Yep built in HTC mail client working quite well for me as well for exchange sync. Mail/Calendar/Contacts plus lookup on corporate address book all working with no problems to report.
Didn't see the need to switch to touchdown though I did give it a try. It did not bring anything extra to the table.
My exchange account for gmail used tu work ok but the last few days it won't connect to the server and so I've deleted the account and re entered the server settings etc and I just get a failed to create account message.
Anyone got any ideas? I'm Considering touchdown, but does it have a widget?
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Contacts have to be copied (a one-time manual operation) to the phone before you get all the benefits of contact sync.
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can you elaborate on this?
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Your blanket "the built-in client doesn't work" is a little harsh, to say the least...
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There have been quite a few threads prior to this with testimonies of the broken DirectPush/ActiveSync/Exchange implementation. There also appears to be a fault in the IMAP client. I accept that these faults may possibly affect some environments more than others (for example, we're currently on Exchange 2003 - due to upgrade to 2010 later this year) but given the wide variety of installed userbases out there, I would have expected HTC's testing to be considerably more rigourous.
Given that the phone is touted as having DirectPush/Exchange capabilities, that puts it squarely in the corporate market. And sorry, but the corporate market it quite unforgiving of deal-breaking flaws such as the ones users here have reported. An example from my own organisation: a couple of very senior managers were hit by the "multiple re-send" bugs, causing their hapless recipients to receive hundreds (yes, hundreds) of copies of some emails. Given the personalities involved, this became more than a little embarrassing. not least because one of the users was the director of our I.T. department. ("What, your phone is broken? Guffaw guffaw!")
I totally agree that the built in calendar was a great feature. In fact one of the most awesome things about the phone was the way it pulled together diverse information streams together. Sadly we have to forego this in order to have a working corporate setup that includes task sync as well as everything else.
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I'm Considering touchdown, but does it have a widget?
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Yes, actually it has several. The "universal" widget is great - quick and easy access to email, calendar, contacts and tasks all on one screen. Plus a load of quick shortcuts etc. Very usable.
@omniwolf: within Touchdown-->Contacts-->Menu is a "Copy To Phone" option. This needs to be done once so that the phone has all Exchange contacts within its own database. Then within Settings-->Advanced, tick "Update Contact changes to Phone" {save} to keep everything in sync. You'll see that your phone's contacts acquire an additional group, "TouchDown-Exchange".
I have the problem and are now using Touchdown.
We have Exchange 2003 and reading various reports from users that the problems dont exist if connecting to newer versions of exchange.
The main problem for us is the inability to search the GAL (Company Directory) I also had strange email sending problems as others have reported.
Touchdown works but is not as cleanly integrated into the phone as the inbuilt client.
Try using Moxier instead
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Try using Moxier instead
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Does Moxier have better integration?
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Does Moxier have better integration?
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Unfortunately not - separate contacts/calendar/email client
I've only had my Desire for a say or so and used Touchdown from the start after advice from a colleague (and after reading so many online posts about problems with the native client).
I have to say, it's working really well so far. Small problem with contact birthdays and anniversaries being 1 day out, but the developer got back to me same day and advised a fix will be out next week. Impressive.
Certainly better than the WinMo implementation of Exchange support ActiveSync just slowed down my Touch Pro 2 to the point of being unusable. On the Desire, it's burning rubber.
I couldn't be happier; confident to recommend Touchdown as a reliable alternative (after a day or so of use, I'll let you know if that changes but no reason to suspect it will).
Pete
Rob Pomeroy said:
Just getting back on this. Generally speaking, it was a no-brainer. Touchdown works. The built in client doesn't.
Couple of niggles:
Touchdown seems to have a larger storage requirement.
Contacts have to be copied (a one-time manual operation) to the phone before you get all the benefits of contact sync.
Massive array of settings and options may be slightly overwhelming for some users although generally they can be ignored.
Emails can only be composed in plain text. Ditto signatures. Rendering of HTML emails received is good though.
Apart from that, Touchdown is better in almost every respect (once you get used to the change of interface).
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I beg to differ on the plain text front. The emails are composed and responded to in html.
I had no problem with the built in clients with an Exchange 2007 server, but I hated the fact that it only let me respond with text in Times New Roman 10pt when Outlook uses Calibri 11pt as a standard. So I switched to Touchdown, which allows you to set the font in the settings.
Been using it live for a bit more than a week now and am mighty impressed. Well worth the investment to not make it blaringly obvious that I'm answering my emails from the phone when I'm not in my office.
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I beg to differ on the plain text front. The emails are composed and responded to in html.
I had no problem with the built in clients with an Exchange 2007 server, but I hated the fact that it only let me respond with text in Times New Roman 10pt when Outlook uses Calibri 11pt as a standard. So I switched to Touchdown, which allows you to set the font in the settings.
Been using it live for a bit more than a week now and am mighty impressed. Well worth the investment to not make it blaringly obvious that I'm answering my emails from the phone when I'm not in my office.
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I am surprised you find this a big deal especially when MOST mobile corporate mail user are armed with Blackberries that reply in plain text and actually advertise by default "sent from my Blackberry".
In this day and age, it is perfectly acceptable if not expected that you will have your email with you on the move. Don't try and hide the fact, shout about it so your customers can see how up to date you are.
Unless....
You are supposed to be cubicle bound and are sneaking out of the office hoping nobody will notice
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I am surprised you find this a big deal especially when MOST mobile corporate mail user are armed with Blackberries that reply in plain text and actually advertise by default "sent from my Blackberry".
In this day and age, it is perfectly acceptable if not expected that you will have your email with you on the move. Don't try and hide the fact, shout about it so your customers can see how up to date you are.
Unless....
You are supposed to be cubicle bound and are sneaking out of the office hoping nobody will notice
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Blackberry is a uniquely American affair that only recently began making headway in the rest of the world. They were the first to offer pushmail, but now that's ubiquitous and their solution requires servers at the operator which delayed things internationally. Now that numerous free solutions are available and Exchange offers html email support, it's just silly not to use it. Ultimately I think the user should be able to decide how his or her email looks and I for one think having the same look and feel across the board for email, regardless whether desktop or mobile gives a much more professional impression. Not only that, but many people find fonts like Times New Roman difficult to read.
For my part, I'm a freelancer and do most of my work odd hours and weekends, while I receive all my orders from 8-6. That means that I'm often out and about or can't be bothered to crack open the laptop just to answer an email, but I still want to be able to offer a polished impression - not have any potentially dislectic client have to struggle to read my email, or worse, have the guy shackled to a desk deciding whether or not to give me a huge assignment thinking that I'm always out playing (especially since I average 70 hours a week, though not always during the business day).
Moreover, it's not rocket science to implement this kind of option, just a single line of html inserted into the emails sent. It shouldn't be difficult to provide this to customers and I'm glad Touchdown realised this.
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Blackberry is a uniquely American affair that only recently began making headway in the rest of the world.
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I am not sure what country you are in but certainly in Europe BB is huge and has been for at least the last 5 or 6 years. Here in the UK, I cannot think of any of the FTSE100 companies I work with for who BB is the primary mobile email solution.
They were the first to offer pushmail, but now that's ubiquitous and their solution requires servers at the operator which delayed things internationally. Now that numerous free solutions are available and Exchange offers html email support, it's just silly not to use it
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I tend to agree but BB is embeded in corporate land and is going to take a lot of shifting
Ultimately I think the user should be able to decide how his or her email looks
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Only if it is the users own email. Remember that most mobile email users are using their companies mail platform so it is the companies choice not theirs.
Hello, I have been a member of the forums for a while, and have an interesting problem, i usually browse the site an hour or two a night. During that time I usually have to log back in 4 or 5 times. Is there a setting somewhere in the control panel that controls my login timeout or something? surely its not my cookies, because other sites do not have this problem, only my favorite, XDA!
Computer specs
Thinkpad SL410
Windows 7 X64
Google chrome browser
Not sure if thats needed but figured I'd throw it in there.
Hope to hear back, Thank!
It did this to me a few times tonight thought it was weird hasent done it now for a few hours!
the website uses a cookie expiration function that manages active logins so that it removes your cookie after a certain amount of time of inactivity. that kind of function is set on the SERVER side, so it's got nothing to do with your computer.
it's pretty standard practice in the webdev world -- although i will admit that it does seem a little short at times. could be worth sending an email to the admin requesting he/she extend the cookie max time.
truthfully it sorta bugs me too. i like being able to leave it for a few hours and come back and not have to log back in. but thankfully the login form is pretty quick to use.
the point of the function is two-fold: (1) it increases security so that the likelihood of someone could gain unauthorized access to your account on your computer if you use a shared computer or if you don't lock your screen and (2) it also frees up server resources so that they can minimize bandwidth usage.
hope that helps explain it
If you wish to remain always logged in, tick the "Remember me" option when logging in. This will PERMANENTLY remember you, unless you choose to log out.
Don't do this on a public PC.
This stores a hash of your password, which authenticates you with the server.
vBulletin has a default session length of 15 minutes. I can't remember if XDA uses something different. If it's too short, let us know here and I'll pass it on, but it's not something many people have mentioned since we moved to vBulletin many many years ago...
Thank you for all of your responses, seems a lot of thought has gone into this, its not that big of a deal for me, just a minor inconvenience i can deal with. Thanks again!
I'm asking this because after the Sony/SOE hacking (which I am somewhat affected by), it's got me thinking.
There are some online services that I've been trying to remove myself form (since before that happened), and companies make it virtually impossible in some cases to get themselves removed from these services.
The biggest example is Facebook. It's literally impossible to remove yourself from facebook. It gives you no decent way to see a list of Pages you have "Liked" and there is no way to remove all of your posts from the site.
Twitter makes this easy... Foursquare makes this easy. Loopt makes this easy...
But it seems companies that are big into Advertising make it as hard as possible for you to decouple yourself form them.
Slacker and Pandora have no such option to remove yourself from those sites after you create your account (and it's impossible to purge your personal information from them unless yo go through hoops and bounds to do so). Contrarily, Last.FM makes it as easy as a button click and some confirmations.
Yahoo! and Google make it easy to delete accounts, but Windows Live basically leaves the account sitting there for something like 4-6 months before it's deleted...
Provided there are decent confirmations, I think any online services should allow any user who willingly signed up for it to willingly walk away from it, and take their personal data and information with them. It seems like a huge power grab by the industry to lock users into them and own our information...
I've already written my Congressman and Senator following an issue with AOL where it took literally weeks of constant phones calls for them to delete my old accounts that I haven't used in forever. Finally they agreed to "waive" the "we don't delete accounts" rule because I was in the military for years following the account creation and they had it on record since I canceled my AOL service that I was doing so because I was being deployed back then...
What do people think. Do you think it's cool that companies expect to own our information after we sign up for their services and make it extremely difficult if not outright impossible to decouple ourselves from them?
Or do you want to be denied a job (or admissions into a university) because you posted something tasteless or inflamatory on facebook one night? (yes, universitiy admissions are starting to check social networks)?
For the past 3 months or so I've been trying to close down all these unneeded services that I have subscribed to in the past, and have been met with several brick walls.
It's even impossible to delete accounts on forums these days, which is uber laughable as well...
I'm thinking about quitting facebook, but getting all my stuff off of there is looking like an impossible task...
EDIT: Pandora finally got around to deleting my account... But I did send them like 5 emails today before they got around to it at 10:50 PM (first contacted them like 2 months ago).
I agree with you that all services you willingly sign up for should be as easy to leave as they were to join, it makes sense.
I'm on Facebook, several tech forums, I use several cloud based services (mail etc.) and I try not to post too many things that would make me look bad.
Facebook has by far been the most problematic to get off, you can deactivate your account but not really remove it.
/J
that's a funny question. It's not ha ha funny but it's funny to jump through those hoops. As far as information shared, on social networking, I know its vitally important to keep professionalism especially in clinical psychology. Personally, if my posts aren't related to tech or anime, I don't post it on social networking. I call a person, I write an angry email or something, but rarely do I kvetch on a social networking platform. Because it's a bad idea...
I mean I have opened a second fb account and surprisingly my first FB is still open. It doesn't bother me because it is "dead" for all intents and purposes. Honestly I just really don't mind it personally, but again that's just me. I'm not the type to post inflammatory material. I guess its different strokes.
However, I do agree, it should be easy to delete your own account. But I have to correct you on yahoo specifically. You can recover the account if its deleted. It's rather easy and I've done it multiple times. I think after a year (for yahoo specifically) then its gone. But otherwise, nope it's still there.
Yahoo! gave me an instant way to delete my account hte last time I did it. It was instant, with no recovery. I checked immediately afterwards when I did it and there was no way to recover the account. Perhaps that is a new development.
Both Yahoo! and Google allow you instant account deletion (or did, IRT the former). Microsoft keeps the accounts for something like 120 days (used to be 45, then 60, etc.) and AOL seemingly keeps them forever because the account I had to go through the run-around to delete hadn't been used for years (almost a decade), but had a ton of personal information on it that I couldn't change because I didn't remember an old secret answer so I couldn't even log in to get it off there (I used to have AOL internet access).
I went back and deleted almost all of my posts on Facebook. It took over 6 hours because you have to personally track down every comment you've made on the site (including those on walls of people no longer on your friend's list). This is intentionally convoluded compared to Twitter, where all of your tweets and retweets are there in a list and it took like 5 minutes to delete them...
As much as I despise Facebook's practice of making accounts hard to delete I've been wondering for a while if it is a result of a fragile database structure they are using. N8ter 's description of having to manually remove comments all over the place makes me wonder if Facebook's database structure has some sort of vulnerability to having data scattered in so many places removed.
Granted, it's prolly more likely they make it difficult because they can.
What do you mean, "you people"?
Nice one
Suppose I.walked right into that
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So... let me get this straight,
You signed on to privately owned websites, handed over private information/made incriminating posts (in any capacity)... and now you're complaining about it?
In boardroom meetings in those companies, people like you are punchlines.
Nothing on the internet is private. Let me repeat that; nothing on the internet is private.
Learn it, know it, love it.
I think your missing the point.
Facebook makes it almost impossible for people to leave after they've used the service a lot. You have to track down every comment and wall post and delete them one by one, among other things before they will delete your account.
Blacker flat out refuses to delete accounts even after several emails. They don't consider email private information... ... ...
Other services just make it impossible. Google voice makes it impossible ti remove the service or your phone number. Aol generally flat out refuses to delete accounts. Windows live wants your info to stay there for six months.
Its not about it not being private, its about me not having a choice in whether or not my personal info sits on their server.
Having a ton of extra accounts increases spam email, among other things...
Hope that cleared up my stance a bit...
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The biggest example is Facebook. It's literally impossible to remove yourself from facebook. It gives you no decent way to see a list of Pages you have "Liked"
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I thought you could see those pages in "Download Your Information"
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=18830
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I think your missing the point.
Facebook makes it almost impossible for people to leave after they've used the service a lot. You have to track down every comment and wall post and delete them one by one, among other things before they will delete your account.
Blacker flat out refuses to delete accounts even after several emails. They don't consider email private information... ... ...
Other services just make it impossible. Google voice makes it impossible ti remove the service or your phone number. Aol generally flat out refuses to delete accounts. Windows live wants your info to stay there for six months.
Its not about it not being private, its about me not having a choice in whether or not my personal info sits on their server.
Having a ton of extra accounts increases spam email, among other things...
Hope that cleared up my stance a bit...
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honestly, I know what you mean. Its very annoying and frustrating. But just take it all as a lesson that these are all private companies. Neither you or I have any right to an expectation of privacy. Its a hard truth to face. My Facebook profile is as dry as a bone. I never post or submit any info I wouldn't be comfortable with the whole world knowing.
Until there is a government-run social networking platform, just understand that.
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I thought you could see those pages in "Download Your Information"
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=18830
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No. That's only to download your pictures, videos, and stuff like that if you want a hard copy or to put it on another social network/profile.
For example, if you want to put all your facebook stuff on your Windows Live Profile, but they don't exist on your computer/smartphone anymore...
Also, that won't remove the ridiculous amount of manual labor involved in tracking down every comment/wall post and deleting them one by one...
All that information is trivially seen by clicking on "Profile" at the Facebook homepage. It shows all your activity. But you should be able to remove it by clicking on the X. Right now, you have to go to every page, track that comment down (sometimes in a sea of 1k+ comments), and manually delete it. Some of those comment feeds are so damn large, that they can crash some users' browsers or slow them to a crawl.
My company uses an Exchange server for email, and it works great....except for one thing:
Due to their arcane policies, I am only able to use a pin lock on my phone. All of the other lock options are disabled, even face unlock. Also, they have the screen set to time out at 1 minute, which sucks when trying to use pretty much any application.
Does anyone know of a way to override these policies since my device is rooted?
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14577188
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You could also get Enhanced Email from the market. Although its pricey, it works great.
That is not arcane at all, those are good security practices. This is why Android still lags behind apple and rim at the enterprise level - too many easy hacks to bypass the security that businesses need. Faceunlock can be cracked by a polaroid and many swipe patterns can be guessed by looking at fingerprints on the screen.
Honestly, with all the personal information that resides on a smart phone I don't understand why everyone doesn't have a strong pin on their phones. Hope your buddies don't swipe your phone at the next party, unlock it with a facebook pic, and play some prank with your work email account.
for me I guess its the stupid 1 minute lockout period. For example, if I am trying to use my phone as a GPS, I only get to see the screen for 1 minute. BOOM...locked out.
Pandora... NOPE. locked out after 1 minute, sure the music still plays, but I have to unlock the stupid phone to change songs and what not.
Scold me all you want virtualcertainty, the minimum 6 character pin, and 1 minute lockout drives me nuts.
Wasn't trying to scold you, just explaining the risks involved and the reasons for the policies. I wouldn't recommend to any of my clients to set policies lower than that. And I know a bunch of people that want an android for work but the IT department won't issue one or even allow people to use their own because of the work arounds.
My work policy is a 4 character pin with 1 minute time out. I exceed that on my device - 5 character pin and 30 second time out. In no time you won't notice it at all.
I don't know if this is a bug, but I have been able to remove the pin lock policy on my exchange account EVERY time
This is what I do
Set up Account
When it tells me that it's going to disable face unlock ,etc , HIT THE BACK key
Voila, you're out of there and it lets you go forward.
Don't know if it's our exchange server but that works for me
BooDaddy said:
for me I guess its the stupid 1 minute lockout period. For example, if I am trying to use my phone as a GPS, I only get to see the screen for 1 minute. BOOM...locked out.
Pandora... NOPE. locked out after 1 minute, sure the music still plays, but I have to unlock the stupid phone to change songs and what not.
Scold me all you want virtualcertainty, the minimum 6 character pin, and 1 minute lockout drives me nuts.
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Then you should probably talk to your employer about it. This is an extremely basic security practice, and like multiple people have already said the easy "hack" to get around the practices is the exact reason most employers don't allow Android users access to their Exchange servers.
My company doesn't allow any Android phones on their Exchange network, exactly for this reason.
BTW, just for reference, it is possible to implement monitoring tools in an Exchange server to notify the administrators of changes to security features. Most employers wouldn't even talk to an employee that's violating security practices...it's just "Here's your box and there's the door". Complain all you want about them, but they're there for a reason. I wouldn't risk it just to escape having to input a key combination.
BooDaddy said:
My company uses an Exchange server for email, and it works great....except for one thing:
Due to their arcane policies, I am only able to use a pin lock on my phone. All of the other lock options are disabled, even face unlock. Also, they have the screen set to time out at 1 minute, which sucks when trying to use pretty much any application.
Does anyone know of a way to override these policies since my device is rooted?
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I lol'd.
How dare a company try to protect their IP with a password on your phone...
Samsuck said:
I don't know if this is a bug, but I have been able to remove the pin lock policy on my exchange account EVERY time
This is what I do
Set up Account
When it tells me that it's going to disable face unlock ,etc , HIT THE BACK key
Voila, you're out of there and it lets you go forward.
Don't know if it's our exchange server but that works for me
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Maybe your admins didn't force device security. My company doesn't even allow pattern locks
martonikaj said:
I lol'd.
How dare a company try to protect their IP with a password on your phone...
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Im totally aware of a company eanting to protect thier IP. I dont even mind having some sort of lock on my phone. But it would br nice to be able to at least bump the lockout time a bit to make the phone useable. Or at least let me do pattern lock.
Theres no sense in trying to make this a pissing contest on security policies.
soapbox,
I sign up to get company email on my own phone as a convenience to both of us. If their security policy was so strict that it made it difficult to use my phone, that convenience would go away and any after hour emails would have to wait until the morning. Obviously not everyone can get away with that, but luckily I can.
I second trying EE,
I picked up Enhanced Email from the amazon app store when it was the free app of the day and have been happy with it(It can disable exchange policies). I do have the lock feature on my phone enabled however because I also use Google Wallet, so I want a little extra protection.
So, you need my phone an also need two separate passwords to use Google Wallet. Hopefully by that time I will have wiped my phone and/or located it.
once on a custom rom, ive never had a problem with exchange security settings. unless i'm going out for a big night (and might lose my phone) i leave the security off.
versd said:
once on a custom rom, ive never had a problem with exchange security settings. unless i'm going out for a big night (and might lose my phone) i leave the security off.
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If you are able to turn off the PIN lock while using corporate exchange mail then your exchange server does not have the required security policy.
Unless there's something else you've done which you didn't post.
Samsuck said:
I don't know if this is a bug, but I have been able to remove the pin lock policy on my exchange account EVERY time
This is what I do
Set up Account
When it tells me that it's going to disable face unlock ,etc , HIT THE BACK key
Voila, you're out of there and it lets you go forward.
Don't know if it's our exchange server but that works for me
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Yep, that'll be the server as I get a security pop up and you can't dismiss it. Once setup all other lock options are off limits.
The annoyance for me was the inability to change the time out period, it made it unusable in certain situations.
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BooDaddy... I'm an IT Director for a large, publicly held company. We allow iPhones and Android devices to use our enterprise Exchange email with a 4-digit PIN, 1-minute lock AND the understanding that we can wipe the employee's phone if necessary. Installing software to circumvent this security would violate our security policies and would result in a disciplinary action.
Is this your personal phone or did your company provide it?
105437 said:
BooDaddy... I'm an IT Director for a large, publicly held company. We allow iPhones and Android devices to use our enterprise Exchange email with a 4-digit PIN, 1-minute lock AND the understanding that we can wipe the employee's phone if necessary. Installing software to circumvent this security would violate our security policies and would result in a disciplinary action.
Is this your personal phone or did your company provide it?
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Not sure how the question is relevant to the thread topic but it is my personal phone.
Look here for solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19792676
BooDaddy said:
Not sure how the question is relevant to the thread topic but it is my personal phone.
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Not really relevant, just curious because if the company bought it and pays the monthly costs then you really shouldn't have too much to complain about. So I guess it's your choice to connect to the Exchange server, I would never expect a company to mandate corporate email on an employee's personal phone.
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Not really relevant, just curious because if the company bought it and pays the monthly costs then you really shouldn't have too much to complain about. So I guess it's your choice to connect to the Exchange server, I would never expect a company to mandate corporate email on an employee's personal phone.
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Yeah, had it been their phone and plan, I wouldn't mind it. Their dime, their rules.
While its not mandatory for me to have it, it is very handy since I am a systems admin (Linux) and its nice to get alerted via logwatch emails when something bad happens.