What's the point of the lockscreen? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

"Locking" the keypad on my old candy bar phone made sense - if you didn't, buttons were always pressed and people were sometimes dialed from your pocket. I can also see the case for a lockscreen on the iPhone, for example, since maybe its home button can be pressed accidentally as well. However, for the EVO and for the Pre I had before it, the only way to turn on the device is via the power button up top, which is surely not going to be pressed on accident (especially with the EVO where it's only slightly raised and must be pressed deliberately). Because of this, the lockscreen serves practically no purpose, except to add an extra redundant step before using your phone. It might be more useful if it showed all recent notifications on it webOS-style, but since it only shows the most recent one, it's not very good for that either, and it isn't a big deal to pull down the shade once you're in the phone.
So, unless you actually secure your phone with a password/gesture/PIN, is there really any point to the lockscreen?

Im going to go on a guess here but the purpose of the lock screen is , in the event that the phone is in your pocket "Granted highly unlikely" the button does get pushed another process of slidding your finger down the screen to unlock would also be needed . I believe the phone sitting in a pocket or a purse or case it would be even more difficult for the sliding motion on the screen to happen . Just an extra safe guard more or less .

You can use SwitchPro Widget to disable the lockscreen if you want.

Because its part of Android and the Evo isn't the only Android phone.
...yep.

nebenezer said:
You can use SwitchPro Widget to disable the lockscreen if you want.
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Is there an app or a way to just use the pattern lock as opposed to the slide down lock? I'd rather just have the pattern lock when unlocking rather than the swipe screen lock and then a pattern lock.

Also no lock works like a charm.
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engagedtosmile said:
Because its part of Android and the Evo isn't the only Android phone.
...yep.
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This is one reason. The other is simply because iPhone has it and it is Android competition, there is no denying that the development tries to outdo each other.
I do understand the OP's reasoning, with the build of HTC EVO 4G, lockscreen is not necessary. On the other hand, it is advised to lock your screen with either PIN or pattern just in case you lose your device. It is part of personal security responsibility.

ritzbrie said:
Is there an app or a way to just use the pattern lock as opposed to the slide down lock? I'd rather just have the pattern lock when unlocking rather than the swipe screen lock and then a pattern lock.
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I'm using the latest CM6 nightly ( so i have the Vanilla lockscreen ) & if i have a pattern set, that is what i see when i press the power button, & after entering the pattern, my phone is unlocked. No need to swipe before or after.
Not sure what ROM you're using, but if it possible to use the Vanilla Lockscreen, you can probably get the same result.

Veritas06 said:
I'm using the latest CM6 nightly ( so i have the Vanilla lockscreen ) & if i have a pattern set, that is what i see when i press the power button, & after entering the pattern, my phone is unlocked. No need to swipe before or after.
Not sure what ROM you're using, but if it possible to use the Vanilla Lockscreen, you can probably get the same result.
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Stock Sense, unrooted. If you put the pattern on you first have to unlock the screen before you can do the pattern. It is pretty retarded.

My phone's screen turns on occasionally for certain notifications and alerts, and if it isn't for the lockscreen, in the 30 seconds it takes for the screen to turn off again, i can easily butt-dial someone or do something else stupid.

ritzbrie said:
Stock Sense, unrooted. If you put the pattern on you first have to unlock the screen before you can do the pattern. It is pretty retarded.
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.

bluehaze said:
It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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Are their any special instructions for doing this? Im on Evo with 2.2 and I still get the swipe screen with the pattern or PIN enabled.

bluehaze said:
It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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Are you sure...I don't see such a setting.

lacrossev said:
My phone's screen turns on occasionally for certain notifications and alerts, and if it isn't for the lockscreen, in the 30 seconds it takes for the screen to turn off again, i can easily butt-dial someone or do something else stupid.
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I'm sorry, normally I wouldn't clutter up xda with an off topic post, but I actaully lol'ed at butt-dial - never heard that term before

bluehaze said:
It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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I too was unable to get this to work. I saw no setting to disable the slick to unlock.

you would really think it would be near impossible to butt-dial someone on the EVO, but leave it to me to prove to be the exception to the rule, I had the lock screen enabled even!!! and somehow in my pocket I called the same guy like 3 times over on the drive home one day... lucky it was a good friend of mine.

Come on, we all know why: Because the iPhone had one. If every other phone didn't have a lock screen, imagine the kind of elitist harassment we'd get from the Apple camp.
"Oh, your screen just comes on? Strange. My iPhone has a lock screen. I just swipe my finger and it unlocks, it's way cool. I can even put a lock code on it. But, no, your phone is cute. I like the little robot guy."
And so forth.

mrass26 said:
you would really think it would be near impossible to butt-dial someone on the EVO, but leave it to me to prove to be the exception to the rule, I had the lock screen enabled even!!! and somehow in my pocket I called the same guy like 3 times over on the drive home one day... lucky it was a good friend of mine.
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wait, what the hell...? You keep your phone in your back pocket? sitting on it?
May the Evo gods have pity on your soul... don't you know it gets its own front pocket, no keys, no coins, no lint, no nothing!

ScrapMaker said:
wait, what the hell...? You keep your phone in your back pocket? sitting on it?
May the Evo gods have pity on your soul... don't you know it gets its own front pocket, no keys, no coins, no lint, no nothing!
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Lol...I dedicated a pocket too. Nothing is allowed in my right front pocket but my phone. I have to force myself because with my g1 I had gotten to the point where I didn't care.

ccicchitelli said:
I too was unable to get this to work. I saw no setting to disable the slick to unlock.
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It may be different depending on which ROM you're running, but I was able to get the pattern unlock without the slide unlock with CM6 RC1 using this method:
- Settings
- Location and Security
- Set up screen lock
- Pattern (add pattern here)

Related

Clock Lock

Hello, I wasn't able to find anything but does anyone know of any settings or a program that will lock the clock on the home screen. The phone unlocks in my holster or pocket and i always hit the clock and keep changing the time.
Random thought/stupid question. I assume that you are using the built in "lock" and not just turning the screen off correct? I know others have had problems with a magnetic latching case activating the "you pulled your stylus out sensor." It shouldn't be a problem with you keeping your phone in your pocket, but if it's just in the case when this happens try getting a case that uses something other than magnets as the catch.
Personally I love this little gem:
Smartlock
After you install it, you can find it under Settings > System. You can set it to lock the screen when you push the power button, when it fades out by itself, even when someone calls you. Very handy.
Also you can install this one here to make the lockscreen look alot better:
Dusk 6.5 lockscreen
I use both and I'm very happy with it
mhurg said:
Personally I love this little gem:
Smartlock
After you install it, you can find it under Settings > System. You can set it to lock the screen when you push the power button, when it fades out by itself, even when someone calls you. Very handy.
Also you can install this one here to make the lockscreen look alot better:
Dusk 6.5 lockscreen
I use both and I'm very happy with it
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Thanks mhurg, I will try both of these.
brad_wp said:
Random thought/stupid question. I assume that you are using the built in "lock" and not just turning the screen off correct? I know others have had problems with a magnetic latching case activating the "you pulled your stylus out sensor." It shouldn't be a problem with you keeping your phone in your pocket, but if it's just in the case when this happens try getting a case that uses something other than magnets as the catch.
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Actually i just wanted something in general. Just cuz the clock doesnt need to be changed all the time and i always hit it and it always goes into the clock settings or my alarm clock settings.
Good luck =)
the only way to change the behavior of this is to mod the lua file that controls it!! usually not fun or easy to do
torint said:
Hello, I wasn't able to find anything but does anyone know of any settings or a program that will lock the clock on the home screen. The phone unlocks in my holster or pocket and i always hit the clock and keep changing the time.
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Create an unlock password and it will not unlock in your pocket or holster. Problem is that without a password, the phone will unlock when it thinks the keyboard is slid out. It can think this if 1) keyboard is slid out 2) phone come in close proximity with a magnet (some holsters have magnetic covers)

Phone answers itself when removing from pocket

I keep my desire in my shirt pocket with screen facing my body. The problem is touch screen seems to work through my shirt, so when the phone is ringing the motion of me removing the phone pulls down on the lock and answers the phone.
Is there anything that can be done to reduce the screen sensitivity so it doesn't work through my shirt touching my skin.
Thanks
Yeah have the screen facing outwards LOL.
put it in a case for protection too like the pdair pouch or the sena ultra slim pouch
stitch a layer of thick material e.g. denim, onto the inside of your shirt pocket
Dude, its android (freedom). Change your lockscreen to something else
I think the app is called lockboot.
It should give you the option of default android lock, or iphone lookalike lock, or a few others...
Anything that unlocks with a side swipe instead of a down swipe should fix your problem.
Regards -e
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Sorry mate, i was a bit quick. Only one "o"; "Lockbot". I havent tried it yet though, but since it changes the lockscreen i assume it changes your answer swipe too...
I don't like having the screen facing outwards so that's a no no.
The thing is I like the default lock screen and didn't want to make my phone look like a iphone copy, was hoping I could reduce the sensitivity of the touch screen.
I will look at some other lock screens hopefully there are some that don't look too iphoneish
Thanks
I totally agree with the iphone unlock being ugly, but I do think the default android lock is nice, and it has a right angle swipe...
Dunno about the sensitivity change, reckon that might affect the whole phone. But someone here in the forum can probably offer some advice. Good luck.
so you have you phone in your shirt pocket, when you pull it out it unlocks, so you have the phone bottom down.
if you put it bottom up then when you pull it out of your pocket the touch will make it slide from bottom to top which will not unlock it right? there is your solution.
+ there is the possibility of making the "phone pull out motion" very cool when you pull it out with the bottom up.
supasye said:
so you have you phone in your shirt pocket, when you pull it out it unlocks, so you have the phone bottom down.
if you put it bottom up then when you pull it out of your pocket the touch will make it slide from bottom to top which will not unlock it right? there is your solution.
+ there is the possibility of making the "phone pull out motion" very cool when you pull it out with the bottom up.
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That would probably trigger automatically setting the phone to busy and disconnecting the call or forwarding to voice mail, I think that's what sliding up on the lock screen does.
How about dont put it in your shirt pocket?
hungabunga said:
I don't like having the screen facing outwards so that's a no no.
The thing is I like the default lock screen and didn't want to make my phone look like a iphone copy, was hoping I could reduce the sensitivity of the touch screen.
I will look at some other lock screens hopefully there are some that don't look too iphoneish
Thanks
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LockBot have many lockscreens, iPhones, Nexus One, Eris, .. you can even make your own customized lockscreen in that program, pretty nice, have a go at it, its worth it
EroThraX said:
That would probably trigger automatically setting the phone to busy and disconnecting the call or forwarding to voice mail, I think that's what sliding up on the lock screen does.
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Thats right, this way i have cancelled 4 out of 5 recent phone calls.
The default screen unlock in the Desire is the most stupid i've ever seen. If you put your phone upwards in your pocket, you answer all calls by grabbing your phone from your pocket, if you put it in upside down, you cancel the call automatically.
If only 1 engineer at HTC called another with the phone in his pocket, they would have noticed this. It's 'HTC quietly stupid' on this one. I have installed Lock 2.0 for now, but will keep looking for a better solution.
Can't turn it upside-down as it will then reject the call. will give the lock app a go later tonight.
pwhooftman if you find a good lock app then please let me know.
thanks
Sully
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just installed lockbot, well work the few pounds and now have flan style unlock which requires a more precision touch to unlock.
Sully
Having recieved a call while using lockbot I still have the same problem.
When using lockbot and you recieve a call the phone unlocks itself and I see the slide to answer desire screen which was my initial problem.
It looks like I need to replace the slide to answer bit rathe rthan the locking sceen.
Can somebody who has lockbot confirm that you still get the slide to answer even with lockbot in use.
Thanks
hungabunga said:
Having recieved a call while using lockbot I still have the same problem.
When using lockbot and you recieve a call the phone unlocks itself and I see the slide to answer desire screen which was my initial problem.
It looks like I need to replace the slide to answer bit rathe rthan the locking sceen.
Can somebody who has lockbot confirm that you still get the slide to answer even with lockbot in use.
Thanks
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I had the same experience. Lock 2.0 gives me a iphone like left to right slider for unlocking. When i receive a call , i get the (traditional) green "answer" and red "Deny" buttons. So no unlock slider when receiving a call, but onscreen buttons which are far less accidentally pressed.
No Lock
I had this preoccupation also and installed the No Lock app. This way I also get the green/red buttons.
I gave up on lockbot as the phone would not fully go to sleep mode, I could wake it pressing any key.
Gone back to the standard lock screen for now and I just take the phone out of my pocket very carefully.
Sully
Im switch from WinMo to Desire and Im very angry because my every call when I take phone from case(case which came with TyTnII and phone is horizontal position) is droped. Im prety shure that I do not touch screen with finger on hand, because I take phone on top and bottom and take it out from case.
This is realy annoying...
I've sent HTC an e-mail to, at least, make this problem known. Maybe they will put an anti-pocket screen lock in next firmwares.
I've used the No Lock app to disable lock. Unfortunately it possible to wake the phone by pressing any key.
Is there any application that disables screenlock but locks the keys (besides power, off course)?

Disable lock/slide screen? Is there a way?

OK...
The locks on my phone are very redundant to say the least.
In order to get to my home screen I have to do the following:
1. Press the button on top of the phone.
2. Slide the first lock down.
3. Draw in my security code to get past the lock out.
Step 3 can be shut on and off but I like this security so people can't mess with my phone. However considering I have to do step 1 before and step two also, it seems a tad over kill.
Can I disable step 2, the slide down lock screen?
Basically when I press the button on the top of the phone I want to be RIGHT at the screen where I draw in my lock pattern and or hit emergency call. I was unable to find anything in the settings. Did I miss it or is it really not there? If it's not there is there any other way to do it?
I'll fully rooted if that helps.
Try "No Lock" in the Market. It gets rid of the lock screen (and has a toggle widget). Not sure the effect on the security though.
No Lock gets rid of both the slide to unlock and the security passcode entry. Very handy if you don't care about security, but you get your mail from an Exchange server and they force you to have a security password.
Don't know how to just get rid of the slide to unlock.
i have a droid incredible with the same setup..sorta...i am running virtuous2.7
have u found a way to do this without No Lock?
You can do exactly what you're asking for with Switch Pro widget
nebenezer said:
You can do exactly what you're asking for with Switch Pro widget
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To verify my understanding, the OP wants to, on his Evo, disable the Sense drag/slide-down screen lock, and only use the pattern lock.
The problem is that the Sense lock remains even when the pattern lock is enabled. (Unlike the Nexus 1, the AOSP screen lock is automatically disabled when pattern lock is enabled).
Are you indicating that Switch Pro Widget will DISABLE the Sense slide-down lock while maintaining the pattern lock?
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To verify my understanding, the OP wants to, on his Evo, disable the Sense drag/slide-down screen lock, and only use the pattern lock.
The problem is that the Sense lock remains even when the pattern lock is enabled. (Unlike the Nexus 1, the AOSP screen lock is automatically disabled when pattern lock is enabled).
Are you indicating that Switch Pro Widget will DISABLE the Sense slide-down lock while maintaining the pattern lock?
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Would like to know, as my buddy was asking me about this.
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If you use cyanogen rom, add power control widget and add the lockscreen option. Any time that widget is off when you hit the power button to unlock the phone you will go straight to pattern lock or home screen if you don't have one.
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I would pay for an app/widget that handled this...
delete the sense lockscreen from the phone, it's just a file you can remove. Once you do that the system reverts to the standard aosp lock screen (or the pattern if you have security set).
deathsled said:
delete the sense lockscreen from the phone, it's just a file you can remove. Once you do that the system reverts to the standard aosp lock screen (or the pattern if you have security set).
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I'm aware of this mod. People should be aware that you will need root access to delete the file. At the same time, I read that even with the AOSP/standard/vanilla lock screen, it (the standard lock screen) does NOT go away when the pattern lock is ENABLED.
For the Nexus 1, the standard lock DOES go away when pattern is ON, but it does not seem so with the Evo.
Can someone verify/dispute?
Thanks.
I can verify that after deleting the HTClockscreen.apk from my phone Vanilla lock appeared after a reboot. I then enabled a pattern lock only to find the Vanilla lock still necesary before getting to the pattern lock screen.
CzarMatt said:
I can verify that after deleting the HTClockscreen.apk from my phone Vanilla lock appeared after a reboot. I then enabled a pattern lock only to find the Vanilla lock still necesary before getting to the pattern lock screen.
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Thanks. 1st post for CzarMat!!! Exactly my point--we need to find a way to make the Vanilla lock go away when pattern lock is enabled. But how??
This is all a bit redundant if the OP has Exchange security enabled on his device, which he has yet to clarify (unless I missed something).
I'd like an answer to this also...
Post 2.2, I was able to use No-Lock from the market to do exactly what the OP is asking. I have an Exchange account with a Security Policy (PIN) in place and have since upgraded to 2.2. It's a little redundant that I have to hit power, slide to unlock, then enter pin.
My workaround, for now, is setting the PIN lock screen to enable after 5 minutes, however I still have to slide regardless - UGHH, annoying.
I just want it to work the way I had it before with 2.1
is there any way to edit or app that enables a longer time period before the lock pattern screen comes up? LIke i think the max is like 15min
I want to be able to at least set the lock pattern screen to a 1hr interval, maybe 2hr
is this possible somehow?
Well, you can hit the "menu" capacitive button instead of sliding for a quicker unlock to the pattern security screen. That's what I normally do since it's a bit of finger acrobactics from the power button->aosp slide unlock->pattern screen.
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I'd like an answer to this also...
Post 2.2, I was able to use No-Lock from the market to do exactly what the OP is asking. I have an Exchange account with a Security Policy (PIN) in place and have since upgraded to 2.2. It's a little redundant that I have to hit power, slide to unlock, then enter pin.
My workaround, for now, is setting the PIN lock screen to enable after 5 minutes, however I still have to slide regardless - UGHH, annoying.
I just want it to work the way I had it before with 2.1
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I agree. Apparently this is possible, I'm working on a solution right now. Perhaps an app I can release to the market. It will essentially unlock the phone for you - you may see a bit of the lock the second you unlock the phone, but if things go according to plan it will automatically bypass the slide lock for you.
[edit:] Sorry for the zombie thread revival - Still trying to find a solution for this problem.
CzarMatt said:
I agree. Apparently this is possible, I'm working on a solution right now. Perhaps an app I can release to the market. It will essentially unlock the phone for you - you may see a bit of the lock the second you unlock the phone, but if things go according to plan it will automatically bypass the slide lock for you.
[edit:] Sorry for the zombie thread revival - Still trying to find a solution for this problem.
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Excellent news! Still looking for a solution. I think simulating a "menu" press will unlock the screen. Looking foward to it. Thanks!!
anyone come up with a solution for this?

[REQ] Slide lock before pattern..

Some of you might think its a silly request but it just personal preference. I would like the regular slide lock to come up before entering pattern when enabled. So you would slide to unlock then enter pattern. Is this possible?
Any devs able and willing to do this would be awesome thanks =)
Wrong section and like you said its a personal preference and few devs are in the business of putting in a lit of work for a single person.
Oh thought since I was requesting a mod development section would be the right place, guess I was wrong.Sorry
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No need to be confrontational. I agree I would like the slide to unlock before the pattern as well, mainly for the silent switch.
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I actually would really like this. I set a pattern lock and expected the slide to unlock first and then the patter lock to pop up. But sadly I didn't get it. Is this possible?
I wouldnt use it but its a good idea
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I think it would be great. I'd especially like it if they could have different time-out settings. That is, if the phone has just gone to sleep in the last ten or so minutes, just the slide lock, but longer than that then the pattern is also required. To me they really are two separate things -- the slide lock is to keep one from accidentally "butt dialing," while the pattern is to keep others from getting into the phone.
im just curious, how could this possibly useful?
if its just too put your phone on silent wouldnt it be easier to just unlock your phone and put it on silent? I mean it might be slightly more inconvenient, but think about how many times itll be more inconvenient to unlock and then pattern unlock your phone to use it vs how many times itll be more convenient to silence your phone w/o unlocking.
just want to know if you guys know something im missing here. I usually just put my phone i silent before i go into work/school but i use my phone many times a day while at work/school.
cesar424 said:
Some of you might think its a silly request but it just personal preference. I would like the regular slide lock to come up before entering pattern when enabled. So you would slide to unlock then enter pattern. Is this possible?
Any devs able and willing to do this would be awesome thanks =)
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You can just use widgetlocker. Add a slider as the unlock theme then on phone settings select the lock pattern. Easy
jvjidNite said:
You can just use widgetlocker. Add a slider as the unlock theme then on phone settings select the lock pattern. Easy
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Oh I'll give that a shot thanks
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[Q] Disabling ring swipe unlock

Guys, have a new One X. Am gonna leave it on the stock rom for a few weeks.
How in the name of god do you disable the ring swipe unlock screen?
Even when I put in none, it's still there. When I put in PIN unlock, I have to swipe the ring first, then put in my PIN. It's seems pointless
Thanks
just unlock it, you will get much better performance using arhd rom and do things like adfree (remove ads from free aps) and reset minfree values for multi tasking, etc.
let me put it mildly, the stock rom sucks,
You're confusing device lock with screen lock. If you only had a pin (device lock, for security) you would be forever unlocking and entering the wrong pin while in your pocket.
The ring part (screen unlock, to prevent unwanted input) can't be removed without modification.
Thanks. Looks like customised rom it is so!
mox123 said:
just unlock it, you will get much better performance using arhd rom and do things like adfree (remove ads from free aps) and reset minfree values for multi tasking, etc.
let me put it mildly, the stock rom sucks,
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The ring part (screen unlock, to prevent unwanted input) can't be removed without modification.
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Right, I unlocked it and stuck Android Rev. HD on it. So far so good. Seem like a nice ROM, even for the lack of bloatware coming from the stock ROM.
I can't find this customization. Does it exist? Am I stuck the ring unlock?
Thanks
I for one would also like to disable the ring lock seems like overkill as you still have to press the volume button to activate the phone
so these are the precautionary steps:
1. Power button
2. Swipe Ring
3. Security feature (Facial Recognition, Pin, Pattern)
I think as @flanobrian stated we want to cut out part 2 of the process
its just abit of overkill that I would like to control
Yes, the problem is, I've the phone set up for Microsoft Exchange for my work emails, which requires me to also put in a 5 digit pin. It's a pain in the ass have to swipe the ring and also do the pin.
Android always has a lockscreen so you will always have to unlock it and then enter your pin, regardless of Android version
EddyOS said:
Android always has a lockscreen so you will always have to unlock it and then enter your pin, regardless of Android version
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My previous Galaxy S didn't have that. All I had to do was hit the home button and the enter the PIN?
i dont know if this is what you want but try this to get rid of (ring unlock) go into settings - personalize - then lock screen styles and go to the last one it is called
No Lock Screen and apply
i did this and now no longer have to use the ring just power button and im in
hopefully i read this right and
hope this is what you wanted

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