[Q] Just a small question about signal quality display - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys,
I´m a happy Desire owner since 2 weeks now and have a little question.
I noticed the following:
In areas with bad network coverage, signal shows (E)dge, or if it´s even mor bad it shows (G)PRS. That OK.
But in areas with good coverage it shows 3G (UMTS) all the time, and only if I transfer data, eg syncing email, it´s showing (H)SDPA, and switches back to 3G.
Is that normal?
I wonder as this is my first android device, and all my older WiMo phones where showing (H)SDPA all the time.
I´ve read else where, that often changing networks need a lot of battery power.
Oh, I´m using T-Mobile in germany with an unbraded Desire running 2.2.
I noticed this also with 2.1
Thank you!

Perhaps the question was´nt clear enough ... sorry.
I mean, I this the same at your phones, or do they show (H) all the time?
Thank you again!

Mine does this too.
If you want to lock to a single network type *#*#info#*#* in the dialer.

In the UK mine shows hsdpa most of the time, sometimes gprs when roaming. It does not show anything when on WiFi, just shows the bars. If you press from home screen the menu - settings - about phone - network, then you see the signal strength and type of signal .

bubblesmoney said:
In the UK mine shows hsdpa most of the time, sometimes gprs when roaming. It does not show anything when on WiFi, just shows the bars. If you press from home screen the menu - settings - about phone - network, then you see the signal strength and type of signal .
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Thats what I thought it should do ... so it seems my SIM is having a problem.
Yesterday I put a friend´s SIM in it (also using T-Mobile) and it shows H all the time and never 3G. If Network is bad it switches to E and then back to H.
Now I´ve ordered a new SIM, so lets see ...
OK my SIM is around 12 years now ... 1998 ...

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3G Icon On Notification Bar

New to Android phones, (I did a search but nothing was found), I was connected to Vodafone yesterday and there has never been a 3G Icon in the notification Bar (Network Signal has the 4 full bars)
When I am at home I use a Vodafone sure signal for 3G but it does not show in the notification bar either, (obviously I am connected to 3G when at home)
My network mode is set to GSM/WCDMA auto, so have I done something wrong or can some suggest how I can have this Icon showing.
I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
EddyOS said:
I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
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Thanks for the reply, this was a new sim card supplied with the phone I moved from T-Mobile to Vodafone so I could use the SureSignal to get rid of the crappy signal in the house.
Just solved the problem, if you switch off Wi-Fi then go into "settings/Mobile network connect to the internet it appears on the notification bar"
I thought you'd have it on already - glad you're sorted though!
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
Matt2887 said:
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
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The H means you have the HSDPA connection which is quicker than standard 3G. 3.5G if you will
ive also never seen a 3g icon, had the H and G one before
I use to get a 'H' on my kaiser
but on on my desire on Orange. I get a '3G+' symbol now. is this the same as 'H'?
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Guys, remember that Android works differently from WIndows Mobile.
On WIndows mobile, you had the G, E, 3G or H all the time showing what signal you had. Android does not do that.
The 3G/H icon only appears when connected to the internet. the rest of the time it just shows signal bars.
And yeah, if wifi is on it will disconnect from the internet and that icon will disappear. cos after all, as long as you have signal when just using voice and text, it doesn't really matter whether it's 3G or not.
And Yes, 3G+ is the same as H. 3G+ is Orange's stupid marketing speak for HSDPA.
I have constant 'G' which changes to 3G/H when in areas that allow it...phone works fine so no issues since changing my SIM card
I am also experiencing this problem and to clarify it:
Sometimes (i think it has something to do with using camera) the animation stops working (the arrows stays shadow even if i am downloading) or the 3h/h icon disappears completely (but i am still connected to mobile data).
Disconnecting and reconnecting mobile data (e.g. swithing to wifi and back, rebooting phone or turning airplane on and off) solves this problem and the animated 3g/h icon (arrows are white when downloading and shadow when connection idle) is back.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem permanently?
I have had no such a bug on my Milestone

Question for Orange UK users (Internet connection)

Guys is it totally normal for your internet connection icon to continuously switch between 3G and H?? no matter whether I set it for WCDMA only or GSM / WCDMA auto..
I have noticed that when there is no current internet connection being made - the icon remains 3G, then when i connect to the internet it switches to H, but freezes up all the time. When I use my o2 sim on the same desire handset, the icon remains H and the speed is fast continuously without any pause or disruptions.
Any help would be much appreciated, also a copy of an APN for orange internet would be great so I could check it with mine.
Never noticed a H on mine. Only seen it go to 3G+
Mine goes between 3G and H all the time while im in my flat.
Not checked while im out.
Its probs a network thing, orange might not have a strong 3G+ network in your area so it keeps switching. I even seen mine on GPRS sometimes.
3G+ is HSDPA
What I'm trying to say is that my phone never displays a H just a 3G+. I have pretty good HSDPA coverage where I am
thanks for the replies - will keep testing my internet connection, still feel that o2 was faster but what the heck - the Desire was free so had to switch alliance!

HTC Desire can only connects "G" instead of "H".. a problem with device?

HTC Desire can only connects "G" instead of "H".. a problem with device?
Since the last few days, my Htc desire can only connects on GPRS aka "G" connections, can't no longer on "H" HSDPA 3G..
I thought this was the cell provider connection issue but, when I put my HTC HD2 next to it using exact same cell provider, the HD2 can still connect on "H" HSDPA..
I made sure the option of "connect thru GSM/WCDMA" is ticked, so my htc desire is set to connect not just gsm.
would this be a device problem on the Desire?
Cheers
I am seeing weird stuff with my desire as well. At first, when I got a data bundle woth Jimmobile (Belgium) I could only connect to the EDGE network. I didn't think much of it, because I thought that was a provider limitation. Then I just checked the use only WCDMA and it connected using HSDPA. I was surprised because when I switched it back to automatic, it chooses EDGE. I had this for a week or two. And now it suddenly grabs HSDPA all of a sudden and almost all the time.. I have decided to just roll with it. It doesn't make sense to me.. I doubt it will at any time.
djind said:
I am seeing weird stuff with my desire as well. At first, when I got a data bundle woth Jimmobile (Belgium) I could only connect to the EDGE network. I didn't think much of it, because I thought that was a provider limitation. Then I just checked the use only WCDMA and it connected using HSDPA. I was surprised because when I switched it back to automatic, it chooses EDGE. I had this for a week or two. And now it suddenly grabs HSDPA all of a sudden and almost all the time.. I have decided to just roll with it. It doesn't make sense to me.. I doubt it will at any time.
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Thanks for your input.. yes indeed.. weird..
Not sure if removing the battery and let the device off for a while then put the battery back n switch the device on will resolve the problem, but I will try that..
This weirdness, a nuisance coz Gprs is slow
Maybe take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656192
You might find something useful.
My problem is that I'm almost nowhere getting any quality 3G/H signal, especially in buildings, where my old N73 got full bar 3G. I'm working on Gprs or Edge if lucky with the Desire. Very, Very disappointing to say at least. This has nothing to do with Wifi here.
Dont compare the "bars" ... they are just UI/graphics.
Check the speed and reliability.
What I noted ... when you activate mobile data (from OFF to ON), it will take some times (like 30 - 60 seconds) to connect. This may vary on different mobile operators.
Balos said:
My problem is that I'm almost nowhere getting any quality 3G/H signal, especially in buildings, where my old N73 got full bar 3G. I'm working on Gprs or Edge if lucky with the Desire. Very, Very disappointing to say at least. This has nothing to do with Wifi here.
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look what I just got. Are they serious?
hank you for contacting HTC. Please try below troubleshooting steps: 1-Go to : Menu>settings>Wireless controls>mobile networke>Network operators>choose your network manually Menu>settings>Wireless controls>airplane mode> turn it on Menu>settings>Wireless controls>air plane mode> turn it off 2-Try another SIM CARD from another Network. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com
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My Desire can connect to H without any problem.
Perhaps wonky batch?
It can connect, when the signal is strong enough, like on the open. But thats way worse what my other Nokia 5230 can do with the same signal strength. It connects in the deepest and darkest hole.
gogol said:
Dont compare the "bars" ... they are just UI/graphics.
Check the speed and reliability.
What I noted ... when you activate mobile data (from OFF to ON), it will take some times (like 30 - 60 seconds) to connect. This may vary on different mobile operators.
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I set it to WCDMA only. It got 3G 0-1 bar. No data transfer and some seconds later it showed a big fat X.
Balos said:
It can connect, when the signal is strong enough, like on the open. But thats way worse what my other Nokia 5230 can do with the same signal strength. It connects in the deepest and darkest hole.
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Haha
Nokia 5230 : When you need to update your twitter while in Shelobs lair!
Made for Hobbits by Finns!

[Q] Data connection problems

Hi,
I have some data connection problems since the first day i bought my DHD.
The phone reception signal bar are always changing even when i am not moving at all.
It can generally move from H to 3G a few times, then go to E and then G, in a few seconds.
it always moves, my internet connection is very slow.
It's as if the radio was always trying to renegociate the method of communication (GPRS, 3G, etc) with the operator's antenna
When i am in a phone call, i got disconnected sometimes or the sound stop during a few seconds (the time the radio switch from 3G/H to E/G i guess)
When i disable WCDMA from the settings i get a quite stable sound during my phones calls (maybe because the phone no more tries to negociate). But for Internet... it's just slow.
I tried a few ROMs, and their respectives radio rom (the one with the IRL branded in the ROM) i sometimes thought it was better but always it's still too unuseable.
I tried my SIM card in an iphone 3GS and i am usually in Edge (sometimes 3G) but when its 3G i can surf quickly during hours (if i don't move). This is not the case with the DHD.
btw i am on the french carrier SFR
If any of u had any clues i would really appreciate your help.
Thanks you
what rom are you using and what radio and ril................... now what radio are you on now
OP already stated he tried numerous ROMS and their cooresponding radios. Sounds like the signal is that degraded that any radio/ril combination will not help.
Thanks for your replies.
As said i tried many ones with their respective recommanded radio.
I am actually trying Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M with Android Revolution HD 4G_6.1.1 with no sense script.
Are there tests i could do to identify if its a hardware problem (like standing in front of an antenna and running some special tool maybe)
Btw, i also tried :
-RCMix3D_Runny_v1.3 but does work with internet pass through (wich is really important since i can't use internet from my phone carrier...)
-niarkMIUI-3.9.1
-LeeDrOiD_HD_V4.0.0-SE-3.0-BETA with Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2
-cm_ace_full-203 with my stock radio ROM
-virtuous_unity-v2.37.0 with i don't remember wich one...
P.S : i would be Glad to test any ROM / Radio combinaison you would suggest me.
Thanks by advance for your attention
if you tried all those roms and diffident radios seems like its more like a hardware or provider issue does it happen off different towers or maybe you can go to one of the stores and try the phone at the store with yours at the same time?
Thank for the advice indeed i need to try this.
Do you know what i need to revert back for the tech not to tell the waranty is over since i have flashed my phone ?
Does i need to reflash the recovery etc? is there some tutorial in this subject because if i go to the store with my custom rom i guess i won't get too much help :/
Don't even take out your phone, your going to say your just looking, don't show anyone your phone, they won't even know what to look for, just test your phone to the one at the store, make sure apn's match. But if you return your phone you'll need to ruu back to stock. You can search easy s-on
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What happens if you manually select 3G only, or 2G only from the settings menu? Does it just lose signal, or stays strong?
Hi
If i select 3G only
I first get no reception (as if when switching from 2G to 3G the radio had to restart)
Then the 3G signal appear strong, decrease slowly in less than 30 seconds, and after all, it seems quite stable.
The bandwidth is good i am downloading fastly
(i am commenting in real time)
Still no deconnection.
I will try it during the whole day and tell how it is behaving.
umm during a few seconds, there were no indicator (no 3G or H), just 3 bars.
It then restarted in H with 1 bar (i am not moving at all)
What will happen if i have no 3G in my area ? I won't be able to receve a phone call ?
Thanks
elfrancesco said:
Hi
If i select 3G only
I first get no reception (as if when switching from 2G to 3G the radio had to restart)
Then the 3G signal appear strong, decrease slowly in less than 30 seconds, and after all, it seems quite stable.
The bandwidth is good i am downloading fastly
(i am commenting in real time)
Still no deconnection.
I will try it during the whole day and tell how it is behaving.
umm during a few seconds, there were no indicator (no 3G or H), just 3 bars.
It then restarted in H with 1 bar (i am not moving at all)
What will happen if i have no 3G in my area ? I won't be able to receve a phone call ?
Thanks
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If you force it to 3G only, and you move out of 3G area, then you should either get a no signal indicator, or if you have roaming enabled, you would get the roaming indicator. I'm curious now because as you said you aren't moving, and it's still changing. That shouldn't happen. Hmmm

Weak to NONE 4G and 3G network signals.

I just bought the Nexus 5X, nice device overall but I encounter some reception issues (in my flat) with the recommended, default, 4G and the 3G connectivity ( very poor signal to none, the network bar is empty). They work perfectly outside though. The 2G option has full reception. What is there to do?
I'm on Orange, Romania, and just got a new nano-sim for this device.
Things I have tried:
-Turn airplane mode on, then turning it back off
-Reboot phone. When it is off removed the SIM card and then re inserted it and turn on.
-Check Settings/more/cellular network/preferred network type and try to change to each of the network settings,
-Reset network settings from Backup&Reset
*Other phones got slightly poor internet reception too but their overall signal is good, and their network bars are filled whereas I got no bar
*The previous Moto G did just fine and always had H+ in my home (to mention that I changed my micro-sim, which was the sim the Moto G was on to a new nano-sim to suit the Nexus )
*In some parts of the house it alternates from a half-full network bar to an empty network bar (usually it is just a 5-10 sec. filled and then back to empty)
*When I manage to have some lines in the network bar, the mobile data stays at E.
Was there a solution to this? I feel like I'm having a similar issue after two days use. Have asked provider for info too.
paulmist said:
Was there a solution to this? I feel like I'm having a similar issue after two days use. Have asked provider for info too.
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No, I still have it. Nobody seems to have a soluționa.

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