[Q] Rooting, downgrading, market enabling?! - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi. I have searched the forum, and checked google for possible answers for about 2 days but haven't come up with something I can use.
I got my HTC Desire a couple of days ago and soon upgraded it to froyo. However being from Denmark i realized that I do not have the option to purchase apps, which leaves me with some demos and apps I would like to buy the full versions off.
I then browsed the topic and saw that my best option was to root my phone and give it a custom rom.
After all methods had failed me I browsed a little more to find out that none of the methods I had used would work on 2.2.
I then found some nice guides about downgrading but all of those said something like: Don't do this if your phone is either *gibberish* or *lots of numbers*.
So basically that leaves me with a bunch of questions:
1. Is there a way to enable the market without rooting/flashing until there is a way to just root 2.2 (this is without buying a foreign sim card)
2. IS there a way to root 2.2 that I simply missed?
3. is there a way to downgrade at which I do not have to fear utter destruction and chaos.
4. Why does google not love me back

I have the same problem

someone? please.

I too could do with a guide on how to downgrade from OTA froyo (hboot 0.92) in order to root and flash a custom rom. Battery life isnt really acceptable in the stock froyo and I could do with sideloading one or two apps from my hero.

munken said:
1. Is there a way to enable the market without rooting/flashing until there is a way to just root 2.2 (this is without buying a foreign sim card)
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Yes, but it's not a one-click-solution. You need to downgrade to hboot 0.80/Android 2.1, then root your phone, then flash any cooked ROM you like.
Read all the details here.
Cheers
tadzio

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Reluctant to root (noob question)

I found the cheapest Desire in the UK is at 3uk/payg - 350 Sterling
...but apparently it comes locked to the 3 network, so, before I buy I thought I'd ask:
Noob Questions:
Will rooting take care of unlocking/make it SIM Free? What about rooting AND changing the ROM? (MUST the ROM be replaced when rooting?)
Is there a way to install a stock ROM? (the new ROMs look great but are still early builds - I think the best is yet to come and would rather wait, for now)
If, as promised, the Desire gets an OTA update to support apps2SD and/or divX, etc in the future, will I have to wait for a custom ROM based on the update because I rooted the device?
(Ops, if this should be in the dev forum, feel free to move it)
Rooting should unlock it - perhaps others can step in to ensure that. The last step in the root process is installing a rooted ROM. Paul's default ROM that gets flashed in that step is nothing but the stock Desire ROM (the one from HTC direct) modded to allow root. Sounds like that's what you want.
If the Desire later gets updated and you want it, you will have to wait for HTC to come out with an official update, or (since you're rooted), you'll most likely be able to get it sooner via the rooting community. HTC has to take time and make sure everything's perfect with Sense, etc. before they release an update. The root community doesn't usually have that hold time.
If you do wait for an official ROM from HTC, there's a chance installing that after rooting will revert your root, i.e. you'll lose access to the extra fun stuff.
eesmm said:
but apparently it comes locked to the 3 network
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3's Desire's are 100% unbranned and unlocked. I've got one right here and checked it just now with an o2 sim and it worked, although I do actually use my 3 sim in it! They get them stock from HTC and bundle a SIM card pack with them - According to 3 Blog. That may well change in the future, but it was the case when I picked mine up last Sunday.
The Professor said:
i.e. you'll lose access to the extra fun stuff.
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what is this extra fun stuff? apps to SD? (doesn't really affect me). What else? What am I missing. No idea of the real advantages of rooting so hoping to learn about the practical applications of rooting.

best way to root desire on orange?

been reading loads of posts on various forums, what is best/safest way to root my orange desire?
also is it possible to delete system apps?
i keep getting low on storage errors all the time, but can only delete ones ive downloaded from market
all help appreciated
If you have read the posts i dont see why you dont know the answer? there is no best way its whatever you think is easiest for you.
well ones ive read mention that they get no network error when trying to root on orange
was only looking for a solution to that m8
I think you just need to avoid updating the radio - that was the only thing causing trouble for Orange users that I noticed.
thanks for that m8, will need to look into that some more
I flashed my rom (before root) to a generic one, then once the root was released i rooted and flashed with a custom rom, still working fine, on orange.
70th said:
I flashed my rom (before root) to a generic one, then once the root was released i rooted and flashed with a custom rom, still working fine, on orange.
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when you flashed it with a new ROM will it unlock the Phone? I have Desire in Orange but plans to bring it in Philippines and use a different sim card.

3 quick noob questions about rooting.

Ok, i had a G1 & i never rooted it, now i have the the Desire & havent bothered rooting it as i think Android seems to be cool from stock.
But theres a few apps i want to use that require root access to use, so my 3 questions are.
1, if i root my Desire do i have to install a different rom? As i like the way the stock Android runs
2, is there a sort of "1 click root" like the iphone jailbreak, as ive seen apps like "easy root" that claim it instantly roots your phone, bit then on here people talk about gold cards ect...
3, if i do root the Desire, will i still get the network pushed OTA updates? As im on vodafone & they havent pushed 2.2 out yet so i want to get it from them, also if i will get them, when i update will it un-root my phone like iphones updatespatch jailbreaks.
Thanks in advance for replys, as i said im not interested in usijg custom/different roms, i only want to use apps that require root access, like cache cleaners ect... but i still want the stock android + sence with my OTA updates.
Thanks
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1. there are rooted version of the stock ROM available, check the Dev forum
2. Follow this - http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
3. No you won't get it, and returning to stock should you want to will obviously remove root. It's best to get your stock Vodafone ROM to have for warranty reasons...

General questions

My Incredible is the first Droid phone (Previously iPhone) etc..
I am thinking about rooting the phone just for general cleanup of misc applications and maybe a few general teeks etc. I would like to ask a few questions that I cannot seem to find answers to.
1. can ver. 2.2 stock be rooted currently? I see that unrevoked has removed the current 1 click root
2. anyone able to delete large quantities of sms messages from hand-cent without the phone locking up? (well over 9k now)
3. anyone able to remove misc apps (cityid or Verizon) from stock 2.2 without rooting?
I am still looking around in here so I may end up finding my own answers, but if you would like to point me in a few good directions that would be great.
I'm a new droid user coming from an iphone and it's such a better platform it's mind boggling, especially if your technical.
I can't answer number two as I'm not a big texter. 2.2 can be rooted, if im not mistaken, a new version of unrevoked was released I think. You can alternatively flash an already rooted ROM based on the OTA if you prefer. As for removing Verizon's trash, I don't believe it's possible without rooting. I'm not sure what the reservations about rooting are as it doesn't really change anything noticable about the phone, but I would do it if for no other reason than to get ride of the crapware.
raginbullsht said:
My Incredible is the first Droid phone (Previously iPhone) etc..
I am thinking about rooting the phone just for general cleanup of misc applications and maybe a few general teeks etc. I would like to ask a few questions that I cannot seem to find answers to.
1. can ver. 2.2 stock be rooted currently? I see that unrevoked has removed the current 1 click root
2. anyone able to delete large quantities of sms messages from hand-cent without the phone locking up? (well over 9k now)
3. anyone able to remove misc apps (cityid or Verizon) from stock 2.2 without rooting?
I am still looking around in here so I may end up finding my own answers, but if you would like to point me in a few good directions that would be great.
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Welcome
Yes wait for unrevoked. I was on 2.1 and was able to get S-OFF set first then I updated to 2.2 but with S-OFF I was able to put ClockworkMOD on my device to get 2.2 to root...so just wait...
1. Wait for unrevoked
2. Do not use the app
3. Removing app from 2.2
http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/remove-bloatware-from-htc-droid-incredible-2-2/

Best way to root the Desire / Best apps for rooted devices

Hi folks,
I've decided to root my Desire running OTA 2.2, but I'm not sure which guide to follow. There seems to be many different options, and all tutorials tell different things. Which is the best/safest/easiest way? I'm sure this has been asked before, but I couldn't find any threads for it. Here are some of the guides/methods I'm considering:
Unrevoked
Complete upgrading guide
RiskFreeRoot
The "complete upgrading guide" isn't really an option, since it apparently won't work if "you have installed 2.2 OTA update from HTC". A final inquiry, once I've got root access, which are the must-have apps for rooted devices? I've stumbled across a bunch of them, but it would be nice with some pointers as well
Cheers
1. Use unrEVOked
2. There are no 'must have' apps. Ignore Task Killers as they're not needed. You're better just going for a custom ROM
Thanks! Unrevoked really seems like the best way to roll. I've never used task killers and I see no reason to start now
Well, that was quick and simple enough Kudos to unrevoked 3.
Quick off-topic question: can a device rooted with unrevoked 3 still receive official OTA firmware updates? And if so, when such an update is applied, will the device still be rooted?
You can receive the OTAs (at least if you are still on a stock ROM) but your Root will most likely be gone (as it was the case with the last OTA).
Settings > about phone>system software updates> untick automated option...
because mistakes always do happen and you don't want to in the middle of a day or a weekend..
can someone here also tel me if there is a way to backup de current rom in case somthing happens and need to go back to the vender.
Use rommanager to back up old rom, and also to flash new rom. You can download it from market.
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