[Q] Why is the newest Netarchy Kernel making my Stock Root Rom's FPS WORSE?! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can anyone help me out?
I'm running stock rooted 2.2 (deodexed) and flahsed over the 4.0 zip... and the scrolling is choppier than all hell. I re flashed the stock kernel, and it was back to being fine again. So, I tried again, with wiping the caches first, and still choppier than all get out when I flashed the kernel.
It's definitely the right kernel, but what the hell am I doing wrong here? Any help would be appreciated.

And, I'll even throw in 5-10 dollrs for someone who can give me an answer that works.

This could be because of the new settings he just changed. Try the download that is 4.0.2 and not 4.0.3, or try overclocking your processor to 1.2GHZ with OC widget or SetCPU.

What kind of screen do you have? If you have a Nova panel, you may need to adjust T2 values to get the best performance. Just my 2 cents.

Ok, so I installed 4.0.2, and it seems to be running better, but still some choppiness on the menu up and down scrolling when "all apps" is opened.
I have no idea how to use SetCPU (noob yep... graphics guy... not a tech guy_, so I took a screen:
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What kind of screen do you have? If you have a Nova panel, you may need to adjust T2 values to get the best performance. Just my 2 cents.
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I have a Nova, but, I have no idea what T2 panels are and how to adjust them. If you could point me to the right app or direction, that'd be awesome. I'll donate to you as well if it helps.

There's an app floating around here called NovaFreq formerly evoswitch. It allows you to change the panel frequency to improve fps. Everyone gets different results. 450ish was usually the best for me. Basically trial and error. Most haven't needed it with recent kernels though. As for setcpu, the higher the max frequency the better fps performance, but overclocking comes with some risks. Im usually underclocked at 576max / 245min. You can also set profiles to run certain speeds when screen off, charging, etc. Helps a lot with battery life. I would move your max down to 998 or 1113 and min to 245. Ondemand is usually a good scaling setting. Hope this helps.
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There's an app floating around here called NovaFreq formerly evoswitch. It allows you to change the panel frequency to improve fps. Everyone gets different results. 450ish was usually the best for me. Basically trial and error. Most haven't needed it with recent kernels though. As for setcpu, the higher the max frequency the better fps performance, but overclocking comes with some risks. Im usually underclocked at 576max / 245min. You can also set profiles to run certain speeds when screen off, charging, etc. Helps a lot with battery life. I would move your max down to 998 or 1113 and min to 245. Ondemand is usually a good scaling setting. Hope this helps.
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Wow thanks. I downloaded nova frequency, but just left it at default, and changed the setcpu, bc I was getting random reboots with the overclock. I also set profiles to way lower when the screen is off and the phone is at lower battery percents.
This phone officially runs like it's on crack now. Good stuff.
Guys, PM me ur paypals, and I dont' mind donating a few bucks tomorrow.

Glad to help. Feel free to send my donation to one of the developers on this forum. Without them I wouldn't have known any of that.
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Glad to help. Feel free to send my donation to one of the developers on this forum. Without them I wouldn't have known any of that.
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Good ****
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TJDuckett said:
Wow thanks. I downloaded nova frequency, but just left it at default, and changed the setcpu, bc I was getting random reboots with the overclock. I also set profiles to way lower when the screen is off and the phone is at lower battery percents.
This phone officially runs like it's on crack now. Good stuff.
Guys, PM me ur paypals, and I dont' mind donating a few bucks tomorrow.
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LOL bro. Not only did I tell you to use NovaFreq, but I also told you not to use SetCPU. You were getting reboots b/c it was set too high and you don't want to set it below 245 when screen is off. I don't think SetCPU is so great for *most* people. I could have helped you on GTalk and taken your money...gladly would have

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Is there a standard setting for "setcpu"

Looking for a setting some of you made with your evos and setcpu.. something that will underclock when not using the phone ... or something.. I understand with the right settings .. setcpu can save a lot of battery power.. or am I wrong? Thanks
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Looking for a setting some of you made with your evos and setcpu.. something that will underclock when not using the phone ... or something.. I understand with the right settings .. setcpu can save a lot of battery power.. or am I wrong? Thanks
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Yep! SetCPU will really improve your battery life.
The biggest thing is to enable "profiles" in the second tab and create a "screen off" profile and set it to the lowest settings you can (clock it up a bit from that if you're noticing lag when you first turn on your screen).
Other than that, I also keep a profile that clocks my processor down to 800 when my battery's below 15%. The settings on the first tab are your main settings. If no other profile's conditions are met, this one will be the one the phone uses. It's useful to turn the profile notifications on for a little bit to make sure all your profiles are working properly at first.
Thanks... but isn't there a much more in depth settings? Could of sworn I've seen a post with a bunch of settings... I just don't know how to do it
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Thanks... but isn't there a much more in depth settings? Could of sworn I've seen a post with a bunch of settings... I just don't know how to do it
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Yeah give me a sec. I'll post a screen shot. Are you looking to overclock?
You can also change the governor settings for all your profiles. For my main one I use "ondemand" but for the other ones I use "powersave."
Here's all my settings. If want more depth, there is a setcpu thread somewhere on here.
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How do you get it to to to 1113 mine does not go that high
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Also I only have, userspace, ondemand,performance..
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How do you get it to to to 1113 mine does not go that high
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Also I only have, userspace, ondemand,performance..
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The answer's the same for the both: it requires a custom kernel.
If you do happen to have one installed, make sure setCPU is set to "autodetect." On the main screen hit the menu button and then click device selection, and then press "autodetect recommended speeds."
If you don't have a custom kernel....welllllll....that's a whole different dicussion.
I just have freshs rom and the radio for it... I set mine up like yours, except I don't have the names yours has for the profiles... is it worthless for me if I don't have a customer kernal? What do they do really? Will it hurt anything? Finally will I lose anything? Sorry for the questions, but you seem to know your stuff very well...
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I just have freshs rom and the radio for it... I set mine up like yours, except I don't have the names yours has for the profiles... is it worthless for me if I don't have a customer kernal? What do they do really? Will it hurt anything? Finally will I lose anything? Sorry for the questions, but you seem to know your stuff very well...
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No no no, it's no where near worthless without a custom kernel. It'll do almost everything without one. It just won't give you as many governor settings (honestly not even that useful) and it won't give you the ability to overclock (idk how important that is to you). Custom kernels won't hurt anything or make you lose anything. Check the HTC Evo 4G Android Development section to find some good ones if you want. Make sure you get a kernel for SENSE roms though and not AOSP, or you might have some issues. And of course, nand backup before you try a different kernel. Also, this is just a sidenote...a lot of custom ROMs do automatically install custom kernels with the ROM, Fresh just chooses to include the stock kernel with the ROM. Like for me, while I've tried a few different kernels, but my current one is just the one that came with Cyanogen Mod.
And hey, no worries man, I'm glad to answer, i'm pretty new to this myself, but XDA's been really good to me.
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And hey, no worries man, I'm glad to answer, i'm pretty new to this myself, but XDA's been really good to me.
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You deserve a high-five.
What's the difference between on F demand and performance?
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What's the difference between on F demand and performance?
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Performance will just keep it at the highest clocked speed. It's not something you want unless you're benchmarking or something. Ondemand will clock it up as apps, etc need.
So I should do all of my profiles ondemand??
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So I should do all of my profiles ondemand??
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Nah. I probably confused you with my last post. All the governor options other than performance will scale the clock speed between your profile's min and max as the phone needs it. But "conservative" or "powersave" modes will tend to scale as little as they need to, whereas "ondemand" will scale enough + fast enough so that there's never any lag. So for like your screen off profile, etc, you'll want to go with "conservative" or "powersave"
OK guys.. Thanks for all your help so far..
I just got a kernel (custom)
Kings #11.
Here is what I have
Fresh's rom 3.3
The radio that came with it, same post..
And Kings #11 Kernel
I took 3 screen shots of my Setcpu settings.
I really want to get the most out of this program and make sure I have it all right..
Here are the screens
Looks good. One thing I'd do is change all your profiles except Charging/Full to "powersave" or "conservative" instead of ondemand.
Also, you'll get better battery life if you lower the min on your Charging/Full profile to 245. That way it'll scale it up as needed, instead of keeping it at 998.
Other than that, looks good. I think you can do some stuff with the advanced tab, but i honestly don't know what any of that means.
I have my MIN at 384 on the MAIN profile and the EVO just seemed to LAG at 245. is this OK??
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I have my MIN at 384 on the MAIN profile and the EVO just seemed to LAG at 245. is this OK??
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That's fine man. To decrease lag when waking up though, you'll wanna up the Screen Off max.
Just did a complete wipe and reinstall.
Curious as I have not reinstalled setcpu..
HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IT REALLY INCREASED YOUR BATTERY??
I am starting to feel all this stuff is so minimal, and more a placebo effect..
Setcpu,juice defender, plugging it in at this time, and taking the battery out.. blah blah blah.. Not saying there is not a difference but its so small and we all go through a good amount of work to get things right, we WANT believe the battery is lasting that much longer.

(Answer) possible fix for phone not waking.

In my quest to figure out why my phone will not wake after sleeping for 5 minutes on a custom kernel like vision, genocide or twilight I have solved the issue.
The issue is that some phones like mine do not undervolt very well at 100mhz. I use setcpu to change my scaling to 200/1000 instead of 100/1000.
The issue is even setting setcpu to 200 minimum it still defaults to 100mhz when the phone is in a sleep state. To combat this problem 100mhz needs to go.
The simple fix is this, set a profile in set cpu as follows.
Screen off maximum-200mhz
Screen off minimum-200mhz
Governor-ondemand
Priority-100%
As you can see from my screenshot of cpuspy 100mhz is rarely being used now. I hope this fix works for others so to the users having the no wake after sleep try it out and report back with your results.
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Its been a whole day and I have not had a single issue with the phone not waking from sleep. So far so good.
I've done this exact same thing,my brothers epic still freezes over night (while him/his phone sleeps),but mine has been rock solid now,only problem is I like 100mhz at sleep; I used to set setcpu 100mhz-200mhz screen off/priority 100%,this seemed to make the lock screen smoother on wake,ohwell,I won't fight progress
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I never had a problem waking on Bonsai 4.0.1 at 100mhz. Now that I'm on ACS I had to switch to 200-1000 or I would have a huge slow down. Although even at 200-1000 ACS is still givng me better battery life.
Battery life is better,but I would like to see 100mhz at stock voltage...
Edit::: In the middle of me typing that,the phone froze,setcpu 200mhz-1000mhz,newest Twilight kernel,so now I'm guessing my phone dosnt like to be under-volted very much...
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This fix is not for the freezing condition. This fix is for the phone not waking after going into a sleep state.
Just setting 200/1000mhz in setcpu doesn't work as it will still use 100mhz when the screen is off. This is why you should set a screen off profile of 200/200 to force the phone to use 200mhz during a screen off sleep state.
Before I did this I could not use any kernel without having to pull the battery every 10 minutes due to the phone not waking up.
With my method I have had zero wake issues and am running 1400mhz as well on vision 1.1
Here is a screenshot of how I have the profile set up.
The Genocide 1.0 OP recommends NOT using setcpu, instead they recommend Voltage Control. They have a whole mini tutorial of how to use it in their thread. See my sig for quick access. You can also disable 100mhz all together (which is what stock settings without any root does) Your Epic CPU is only supposed to be 200/1000. So you can use Voltage Control to set what levels you want your cpu to have access too. It is quite useful. I have still had an occasional SOD problem. I have noticed that the processor jumps quickly when waking up, so perhaps it is both an underclocking issue for you (with setcpu) and an under volting issue for me. I will see, but I hope this helps.
Edit: there is no difference between 100Mhz and 200Mhz as they both use the same voltage.
So setting it to 200 wont help battery? I should just leave it to 1000/1000?
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The Genocide 1.0 OP recommends NOT using setcpu, instead they recommend Voltage Control. They have a whole mini tutorial of how to use it in their thread. See my sig for quick access. You can also disable 100mhz all together (which is what stock settings without any root does) Your Epic CPU is only supposed to be 200/1000. So you can use Voltage Control to set what levels you want your cpu to have access too. It is quite useful. I have still had an occasional SOD problem. I have noticed that the processor jumps quickly when waking up, so perhaps it is both an underclocking issue for you (with setcpu) and an under volting issue for me. I will see, but I hope this helps.
Edit: there is no difference between 100Mhz and 200Mhz as they both use the same voltage.
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Im using vision kernel and this worked for me since voltage control is not compatible with vision kernel.
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So setting it to 200 wont help battery? I should just leave it to 1000/1000?
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Why would you set 1000/1000. Set 200/1000
Interesting, gonna give this a shot. I have the same issue on every kernel I've ever used.
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Interesting, gonna give this a shot. I have the same issue on every kernel I've ever used.
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Hope it works for you as my phone is the same way.
Seems to work so far...
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Seems to work so far...
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Good deal..

[KERNEL][GB] Pershoot-OC-UV-NEON-FP-SWAP-GOVS-1.708ghz

Admin Edit: Links removed at OP request. I believe they will be available elsewhere. I have always ben very anti-setcpu, but profiles with this kernel really are a must if you want a smooth experience without constant freezing.
This is pershoots source code as of 04/25/2011 with added overclocking patches, all governors available, swap (requested) with a max scaling frequency of 1.708ghz (1708800) YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THE USB MOUNT ISSUES present in flippy's kernel.
YMMV - Overclocking seems pretty unstable above 1.708 with the current state of the kernel (trust me i tried MANY different voltage variables, different schedulers etc..) that's why 1.8 and 1.9 are not supported, and will not be until they are stable for me again.
DO NOT SCALE ABOVE 1.516 without setting scaling governor to performance, or raising the min cpu frequency as you will experience lockups, setcpu profiles are useful in this situation. screen off profiles should have a MAX frequency of above 768 (this way when the screen goes back on it will ramp to the higher freqency THEN ramp back to the oc'd 1.708 without the jump from 245 causing a freeze) if you want to go with ondemand scaling and want the max at 1.708, you will have the most luck with min at 806 (even then it can and likely will freeze)
Edit: testing screen off profiles, it looks like you can pick whatever you want, currently mine us set to 245 min 368 max. No issues yet.
I have my device set for 368 min 1.708 max performance governor on boot and it hasnt frozen in the last two days. scaling through frequencies, or if the delta between min and max is too high, you may get a kernel panic and a battery pull will be required.
My particular setup (recommended):
on boot - 368 min, 1.708 max performance
screen off - 245 min 806 max ondemand (allows idle speed at 245)
battery < 50% 245 min 806 max ondemand
The same rules basically apply with this OC kernel that applied to flippy's. I'm not responsible for any damage that may result from your use of this kernel. yada yada yada.
you should retain wifi, gps, etc.. if not, flash it again, you did something wrong.
freezes? lockups? lower your clock speed, they shouldnt happen with any more frequency than with pershoots kernel if you stay at 1.516 and below. above that, if you experience a freeze, a last_kmsg wont help, the kernel failed to sync and panicked, there is nothing i can do about that. sorry.
wake-lag? i've gone over that, but here we go again:
generally with oc kernels:
oc+screen on/off animations+brightness > 50% = no wake lag
oc+screen on/off animations+brightness < 50% = wake lag
it isnt ideal, but get a program called screen filter from the market to apply a lesser brightness when above 50% so you dont experience the wake lag.
Enjoy.
There is weirdness with benchmarks, if you've oc'd and you know it should be higher, reset the scaling options in cm settings and try again. It's very weird and i havent put together a full list of what causes the behavior, more as it develops i guess.
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Awesome thanks. Seems to be pretty stable for me at 1600 ondemand.
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The benchmark screenie is at 1.7 Ghz?
And thatnkyou for the kernel ..will be checking it out in a while
Works good using your recomended settings
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It's a stable as I could get it. Been using for a couple days without issue to make sure before I posted it.
Any chance of adding the smartass governor ?
I've read many things about that and nobody never included it in a kernel.
Only in roms.
Your kernel is really good so was wondering
This is awsome! Kernel is running fast and stable. Although i don't clock it all the way up to 1700 i love that i finally can use pershoot kernel with interactive governor.
Thanks very much!
will be adding to my rom on next version
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Same here if you don't mind
Don't mind at all, for the person who asked, there is source for the smartass governor, I just need to locate it and merge. I'll look into it today.
Will flash tonight with the latest CM nightly. Thanks
This show promise and potential. Love, love love. Did you ever find the source for the smartass governor?
Found the this on github. It's the smartass source from a kernel for the HTC Shift, should be the same mostly.
Also this governor look interesting, maybe give an alpha release with this one in it for testing? Scary just sounds like a bada$$ name for a governor. It's from Scaryghoul btw, just to give credit.
Thanks for this amazinglarry. I'm gonna test this out for a few days before I can give you some useful feedback.
In the meantime, can I refer you to a kernel in the MT4G section that seems to try to accomplish exactly what you are doing (all available kernels, high overclock, etc.). It has all the source readily available. The link is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2491887
I'll take a look. Gracias.
Please forgive my ignorance but what might this offer over pershoots kernal? His newest kernal fixed a huge headache I had with wifi and I don't want that headache back. Is it just the addition of higher oc and the added govenators or is there more added as well?
No, just, swap, governors, and overclocking a bit more.
I'm getting instability with the camera and gallery. It either locks up or saves pictures as a black square. Gallery FC's when I try to delete pictures. As far as I recall, this didn't happen with pershoots or stock CM. I'm running 7.0.2 with no profiles, clocked at 245-979 on demand with CM settings, no setcpu. When I can get in front of a computer with adb ill post some logs.
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I'm getting instability with the camera and gallery. It either locks up or saves pictures as a black square. Gallery FC's when I try to delete pictures. As far as I recall, this didn't happen with pershoots or stock CM. I'm running 7.0.2 with no profiles, clocked at 245-979 on demand with CM settings, no setcpu. When I can get in front of a computer with adb ill post some logs.
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I'm not able to reproduce, camera and gallery are working st 806 and 1.708 on my device, clear pictures, no force closes.
Grab some logs, there should be very little difference in functionality (if any) between this version and the official version of pershoot's kernel, unless he does some magic that isn't in his git, which I highly suspect, seeing as how quadrant scores are a little lower at the same clock speeds with my version and his.
But as far as functions and drivers, you shouldn't have issues.
I'm thinking its something wrong with my setup. I reflashed pershoots kernel, cleared caches, and ran a fix_permission. I no longer have force closes but my camera isn't saving? Ill have to look into it.
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I'm thinking its something wrong with my setup. I reflashed pershoots kernel, cleared caches, and ran a fix_permission. I no longer have force closes but my camera isn't saving? Ill have to look into it.
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Let me know if you can pinpoint the issue, and need some possible help.

Kernels Overclocking/Voltages/Governors

Morning guys. I think I've clogged up Agats kernel thread enough with this so figured I should hop on over here and ask about what's going on.
First of all a big thanks to the few kernel devs we have over here. I understand that we did just recently get source so I'm not blaming anyone for the issues I'm encountering.
All I've been trying to do these past few days is see how far I can max out this phones performance. I'm not concerned right now with battery life. I live in a God awful data/signal area... but since source has dropped I have noticed without even touching a single setting improvements in performance.
So all I've been trying to do these last few days is overclock to 1.4 and KEEP it at 1.4 while my screen is on. I've mostly been using Tegrak Ultimate and Voltage Control and staying at Performance gov. From what Voltage Control is telling me though is the majority of the time I'm stuck at 800 MHZ. Very rarely am I at 1.4 and not only that the phone is barley ever at 500MHZ or 200MHZ. I've tried overvolting up to +75 across the board but that hasn't changed anything. I've tried different Schedulers and have seen a little improvement using CFQ. I've kept my governor at Performance.
I've never really been a big overclock guy. This just started as me seeing how far I can push this phones performance without it melting in my hands. LOL. Now though I'm just trying to learn and or understand why 96% of the time I'm sitting at 800mhz.
Thanks in advance for any feedback and especially thanks to Sleshepic, Agat, and RJ for the work they've put into these source kernels.
I've included a number of screenies..... sorry they are kind of random but it's what I've been posting in Agats thread..... but it gives you the general idea of what I'm getting at.
Thanks.
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what ROM are you running? it would seem like you have conflicting scripts running. like a script which is preventing you from using certian steps. And even capping you at 800MHZ. Have you tried a full wipe then flash your rom and agat's kernel again? just wondering if there is a left over script from a perivous rom or battery saver mod. I have been following you on the kernel thread. hell, Ive been using google this to see if i can come up with something. thats I have right now.
link for reading: http://www.setcpu.com/documentation.html
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what ROM are you running? it would seem like you have conflicting scripts running. like a script which is preventing you from using certian steps. And even capping you at 800MHZ. Have you tried a full wipe then flash your rom and agat's kernel again? just wondering if there is a left over script from a perivous rom or battery saver mod. I have been following you on the kernel thread. hell, Ive been using google this to see if i can come up with something. thats I have right now.
link for reading: http://www.setcpu.com/documentation.html
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Thanks man. You might be on to something there. I'm going to look further into scripts and how they may conflict with Tegrak/Setcpu/Voltages.
This could very well be the issue...... I can't think of anything else it could be.
Thanks again.
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Thanks man. You might be on to something there. I'm going to look further into scripts and how they may conflict with Tegrak/Setcpu/Voltages.
This could very well be the issue...... I can't think of anything else it could be.
Thanks again.
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No problem. im also checking it out as well. I'll keep ya informed as what else i could find.
Go team venum! lol
Well I'm not getting anywhere on this. A few days ago I was testing Manufan's Hooligan ROM(awesome ROM by the way) then did a fresh install over to Mijjah's Goodness ROM. I just asked in his thread and Rwilco12 said there isn't a script in the ROM. He thinks there may be some apps conflicting.
The only thing I have left to do is another fresh install. Judging by the lack of responses in this thread I may be the only one having this issue.
do you have multiple OC apps? like i had to delet Rom tool box when I started using voltage control. same way when I had tagraz. I beleive you can only have on OC app at a time as they will conflict by trying to gain control over the CPU.
Yeah I'm running 0.2.3 and here's mine.
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g_ding84 said:
do you have multiple OC apps? like i had to delet Rom tool box when I started using voltage control. same way when I had tagraz. I beleive you can only have on OC app at a time as they will conflict by trying to gain control over the CPU.
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Well I have Rom Toolbox Pro but I'm just using that to change my font. I have Setcpu frozen thru TB and just using Tegrak Ultimate.
When I get home from work later I'm going to do a fresh install. Use Rom Toolbox Pro to change my font then freeze it. Then just use Tegrak and not install Setcpu.
See if that does it. Thanks again for your feedback.
caspersfi said:
Well I have Rom Toolbox Pro but I'm just using that to change my font. I have Setcpu frozen thru TB and just using Tegrak Ultimate.
When I get home from work later I'm going to do a fresh install. Use Rom Toolbox Pro to change my font then freeze it. Then just use Tegrak and not install Setcpu.
See if that does it. Thanks again for your feedback.
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no problem. just something i was thinking about.

Something I keep installing is causing lag - how do I isolate this without trial/erro

I'm getting quite frustrated with a persistent lag issue I've been carrying across all installs. I don't know how else to describe it other than a huge input lag. I press the power button, the phone takes 2 seconds to wake up....
I press a button on the screen - sometimes 3-4 seconds before the phone reacts.
I don't know how to isolate this problem because every time I do a clean install the problem isn't there, I have over 200 apps that I just back up from a TitaniumBackup that I carry over after wiping everything including userdata/sdcard... I'm not going through the whole "remove 1 app at a time".. I have over 200 man that's too time consuming!
There's got to be a better way to figure out what is hogging the CPU or GPU or whatever IO is getting mucked up to the point that its slowing my phone down. I haven't seen an impact in battery yet which is a tad confusing, but I'm not gonna complain about it..
Any help is much appreciated
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I'm getting quite frustrated with a persistent lag issue I've been carrying across all installs. I don't know how else to describe it other than a huge input lag. I press the power button, the phone takes 2 seconds to wake up....
I press a button on the screen - sometimes 3-4 seconds before the phone reacts.
I don't know how to isolate this problem because every time I do a clean install the problem isn't there, I have over 200 apps that I just back up from a TitaniumBackup that I carry over after wiping everything including userdata/sdcard... I'm not going through the whole "remove 1 app at a time".. I have over 200 man that's too time consuming!
There's got to be a better way to figure out what is hogging the CPU or GPU or whatever IO is getting mucked up to the point that its slowing my phone down. I haven't seen an impact in battery yet which is a tad confusing, but I'm not gonna complain about it..
Any help is much appreciated
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Use app settings Running Apps tab.
What would I be looking for here?
This is all I have in there - no scrolling up or down. Nothing seems out of place?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Then it isn't an app causing your lag. Or at least not one that's running.
063_XOBX said:
Then it isn't an app causing your lag. Or at least not one that's running.
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Maybe a system UI change? I do have a lot of modded items like the center clock and such... Would these be problematic?
edit; just to try it out, I'm reverting all changes and rebooting - waiting for the phone to settle down now.
You didn't really provide any information other than what you were assuming it to be. What ROM, kernel, mods etc are you using?
Also, are you underclocking/undervolting the CPU? Might not be liking the settings
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You didn't really provide any information other than what you were assuming it to be. What ROM, kernel, mods etc are you using?
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Well I was hoping for a way to diagnose the issue myself but I always welcome help as I'm at my wits end of diagnosing this problem right now lol
ROM: XenonHD Stable 2.0 JAN10 Release
Kernel: Both stock included in ROM and currently LeanKernel
Mods are mostly things from the ROM settings.. stuff like Signal text, battery text, centered clock, adding day of the week, shortcut by tapping on the time in notification bar
No external mods installed lately.
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Also, are you underclocking/undervolting the CPU? Might not be liking the settings
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Unless the new daemon included in the ROM mentioned above is doing either of those - no. CPU scales up to 1200Mhz regularly when watching it in the performance tab
EDIT: I think I just found it... Something I must have installed is locking the CPU to 700Mhz, I just double checked to verify what I said and its not going over 700 even though the daemon is set to 1200...LOL!!!!
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Well I was hoping for a way to diagnose the issue myself but I always welcome help as I'm at my wits end of diagnosing this problem right now lol
ROM: XenonHD Stable 2.0 JAN10 Release
Kernel: Both stock included in ROM and currently LeanKernel
Mods are mostly things from the ROM settings.. stuff like Signal text, battery text, centered clock, adding day of the week, shortcut by tapping on the time in notification bar
No external mods installed lately.
Unless the new daemon included in the ROM mentioned above is doing either of those - no. CPU scales up to 1200Mhz regularly when watching it in the performance tab
EDIT: I think I just found it... Something I must have installed is locking the CPU to 700Mhz, I just double checked to verify what I said and its not going over 700 even though the daemon is set to 1200...LOL!!!!
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That'd be governor control. The hispeed frequency must've been 700.
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That'd be governor control. The hispeed frequency must've been 700.
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How do I mess with this if possible? Im assuming kernel level tweaks?
I switched governor to interactiveX and I'm now seeing it jump to 920 and 1200 much more often... Seems a bit smoother but I'll have to wait and see if I get any hangs like I was before... wow I really hope it was that easy to fix lol, I just need to find the app that keeps messing w/ my CPU settings now >_>
TheShoura said:
How do I mess with this if possible? Im assuming kernel level tweaks?
I switched governor to interactiveX and I'm now seeing it jump to 920 and 1200 much more often... Seems a bit smoother but I'll have to wait and see if I get any hangs like I was before... wow I really hope it was that easy to fix lol, I just need to find the app that keeps messing w/ my CPU settings now >_>
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Depends on the governor. You'll need an app like Francokernel updater.
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Depends on the governor. You'll need an app like Francokernel updater.
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Ok I had been using Trixter toolbox, I believe I saw settings for that while using this toolbox under another ROM
I'll have to read up on this HiSpeed thing you mentioned... It sounds like its setting a secondary artificial limit on CPU speed based on load settings similar to the way 'nice load' used to work? Its been a while since I've hit the wiki
Thank you guys very much for your help. After using it for a handful of minutes things are looking pretty damn good! Very much appreciated
After some time the lag came back even worse. I did some looking around on my own into possible hardware failures at that point and later found a possible issue with the emmc not running fstrim or just not trimming the flash memory correctly
I found an app called LagFix and ended up installing that and after a reboot it was like I had just erased everything on the phone (back to fast again).. I've been using it nice and quick for the past week now and I think that may have been the end-all issue as usually the lag would start to re-appear after a few days.

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