Hi Devs,
first of all, sorry for starting a new thread, but searched the forum and didn't find exactly that.
Like I've read, there is no audio over USB support built-in to our mighty Desire.
I tried a few different microUSB to 3.5mm jack adapters from ebay - even one declared as for HTC Desire. Checked the usb-pins-assignment also and it seems that HTC hasn't built in (or turned off) that function in opposite to some other manufacturers.
So will it be possible to write a rom or a kernel, that'll support that?
If it is possible, I would appreciate a few hints what I'll have to do, to get this thing working!
Thanks in advance!
Can I know why you need that? Is it for A/V out?
brianius said:
Hi Devs,
first of all, sorry for starting a new thread, but searched the forum and didn't find exactly that.
Like I've read, there is no audio over USB support built-in to our mighty Desire.
I tried a few different microUSB to 3.5mm jack adapters from ebay - even one declared as for HTC Desire. Checked the usb-pins-assignment also and it seems that HTC hasn't built in (or turned off) that function in opposite to some other manufacturers.
So will it be possible to write a rom or a kernel, that'll support that?
If it is possible, I would appreciate a few hints what I'll have to do, to get this thing working!
Thanks in advance!
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Its not possible to send analog audio signal over the usb since its a standard usb plug. Only the old htc phones with extUSB had audio, but its was a bigger plug with more pins.
On that note i dont get why you want to get audio from there, when theres a nice 3.5mm jack socket on the top of the phone.
mr.r9 said:
Can I know why you need that? Is it for A/V out?
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Thanks for your quick answers!
Yes, since there are no music docks for desire I built my own and it has to be possible, other phones with microUSB have that function - why not ours?
I know the old extUSB plug from my magic, there it is no problem. But there must be a way to get this working! I think it is only a software and/or driver issue.
If you'll get a music dock you'll have to plugin the phone + jack everytime? ? ? Look on ebay there are a few universal docks over microUSB, but not working for the nearly best and most sold android phone on market?
Pls give me some hints if there is a way to do that - everything is possible!
Sent from my HTC Desire
brianius said:
Pls give me some hints if there is a way to do that - everything is possible!
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Umm, well not really. Because who says that the USB port of your phone is connected the right way internally to actually SEND data over the cable/dock.
I have no idea on how to do it. Thats just what I think, but with Android, a LOT is possible
prodygee said:
Umm, well not really. Because who says that the USB port of your phone is connected the right way internally to actually SEND data over the cable/dock.
I have no idea on how to do it. Thats just what I think, but with Android, a LOT is possible
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YEAH IT IS!
On Nexus one they built in extra pins for docking and audio over that works like a charm.
I'm having a few adapters microUSB to 3.5mm jack for Motorola,Samsung,Nokia...phones from ebay, but not one reaction from Desire
Maybe the adapter for Desire needs a Digital-to-analog converter to get analog audio out of the microUSB port.
But no technical details over that from HTC - does anyone know more about the microUSB connections on our Desire? Tried to get a technical manual for Desire, but no chance on google...
If there is no other solution, I'll have to disassemble my expensive Desire to get a view on connections and maybe some hints which IC is managing the microUSB.
Does any dev know what would be possible by modding a kernel or rom?
Thanks in advance!
mr.r9 said:
Can I know why you need that? Is it for A/V out?
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im also looking for something like this, though i want digital-audio out. for example in my car, plug and play so i get spotify from my usb to my stereo and able to control spotify from my stereo. there is no problem for this if you use iphone, though id like to be able to do it on my htc.
any solution?
Ability to stream out the audio through USB would be something nice to have.
There's a guide online on how to splice a USB and 3.5mm cable to the Apple USB cord so that you can charge and play audio on ipod accessories, as long as you don't mind having USB and audio plugged in at the same time. http://www.erwanmace.com/2012/07/ipod-dock-android/
Related
Hi,
I was wondering if there is such a device that allows you to tune into a radio frequency and receive your mp3 / wma music broadcast over. It would be handy for the car. I know its really creating a pirate radio station but the Apple Ipod's have the technology.
Thanks
Michael.
You can do this, you will need the mini-USB to 3,5MM addaptor cable (search the forum, it is listed in many places within the Artemis section) then get an FM Transmitter, they were made legal for use in the UK at the begining of last December. In use they are not perfect with signal loss/ other stations bleeding into what you are listening to - PC World for a legal device or E-bay and take a chance - Mike
Can anyone find a reason why this wouldn't work as it seems like the perfect thing to do this. FM transmitter that connects via mini usb.
I don't know where you can check this, but many countries changed their laws affecting "illegal Radio Stations". In Germany for example the FM Transmitters are legal by now, as long as they don't radio over more than say 10 metres.
doublehard said:
Can anyone find a reason why this wouldn't work as it seems like the perfect thing to do this. FM transmitter that connects via mini usb.
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Remember we still need the pins to match the proprietry HTC mini USB
victoradjei said:
Remember we still need the pins to match the proprietry HTC mini USB
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I don't suppose there is any way of knowing this without actually buying one is there? I don't fancy spending £30 if it won't work .
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Remember we still need the pins to match the proprietry HTC mini USB
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I've heard this before, but I use the same USB cable and charger for my Orbit as for my RAZR V3 and they both seem to work correctly (i.e. they charge and sync to Wintel AND mac).
What exactly is the difference? Isn't USB a standard, there should be no variation.
UKenGB said:
I've heard this before, but I use the same USB cable and charger for my Orbit as for my RAZR V3 and they both seem to work correctly (i.e. they charge and sync to Wintel AND mac).
What exactly is the difference? Isn't USB a standard, there should be no variation.
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My caution was about the fm radio. If this was true for the fm radio, we could all listen via speakr phone using "any sync/charge cable at all"
Isn't that more to do with the way the orbit/Artemis implement its FM aerial rather than any differences in the USB pinouts?
USB adapter. I just love the Elf phone.The only things I am disappointed in is that I cannot plug in a set of external speakers. I cannot plug in to the charger whilst watching a film as I need the socket for the headphones...
Does anyone know of an adapter to enable me to do this please? I could get one made up from the diagram, however I would prefer to buy a custom made one.
Roz
maybe something like this?
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=127184
The Elf has only a USB socket, nothing else... No phono or whatever they call it... For me this is the only fault with a superb little phone.
Thanks anyway.
dont know about the elf but all other newer htc devices have a special usb connector which also carry audio
if your device came with a headset then yours do too
as they device dont support usb host so it cant use any usb devices
nm just saw my link was wrong :S
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=148544
this was the link i ment to give you
3Way USB adapter for HTC Touch/Elf
There is in fact a 3 way adapter available. I found it after a bit of a search. For some reason some of you seemed to think I was looking for a headset. The USB socket on the HTC Touch does not allow you to use anything else other than the supplied USB headset. however I want to use a set of Sony speakers for the sound to play MP3's and as I like to watch films in bed through ORB I like to be able to charge the phone at the same time. The process uses a lot of battery power.
The adapter I found has a stereo jack socket and 2 USB sockets the same as the one on the phone. So now I can plug in my head set and charger or charger and speakers in any form I choose.
If anyone else is interested here is a link where you can buy one for about £12.00 which includes postage: http://www.elitextreme.com/htcto31ad.html
The pictures show what I was talking about...
Roz
Try here for genuine HTC accessories through Expansys HTC store, then click on your phone type in the left-hand column to list all accessories available for it.
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc.aspx
Oooops! sorry Rudegar I missed your post for it already.
HTC 3 way adapter
No Expansis do not carry one. The link I left earlier does. I have mine now. It is exactly what I wanted. Cost me £12.95. Well worth it.
OK, so this is *almost* what I'm looking for:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147569
Does anyone know where to get an 11pin to 3.5mm adapter? One that *only* has a 3.5mm stereo output instead of having stereo+usb output?
Thanks.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151753
Rudegar said:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151753
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Thanks for the find, but will it work even if it's for the TyTN and not specifically for the Touch?
And is it stereo as opposed to just mono?
i would asume that htc dont change the wireing of their miniusb connector flavour with each device it would serve no purpos and would cost alot for htc
i would asume that if stereo is in the miniusb connector when used for normal wired headset it would be using that converter
as it would serve no purpos for the converter to add the eletronics it would require to just take 1 channel and spit it in 2 without lowering the the volume to ½ because of the impedanc
Well, I've searched the forums and web and I can't seem to find a extUSB extension cable.
I found links for a male connector that requires soldering but there is no female connector to directly make an extension.
Does anyone one know where to locate a extUSB mini extension cable? I might end up having break out my old soldering iron otherwise.
I've never seen one...
There are the two male plugs on Sparkfun, but I haven't seen a female connector. Possibly pirate one from an old/broken phone on eBay?
Or, depending on what you're wanting to extend, get an adaptor (there's one on Amazon that this new user can't link to) and use a standard mini USB. But you'd lose some functionality, of course.
unless you really need to carry the audio then a normal usb extension cable would work just fine
Rudegar said:
unless you really need to carry the audio then a normal usb extension cable would work just fine
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Actually, audio and power are what I am looking to extend. This is to have one cable going to my car cradle while keeping everything else tucked away. I just ordered a couple extUSB data sync cables and a couple 3 in one adaptors for cheap on eBay. I plan on cutting and splicing the two cables together and then shrink wrapping the joint.
Hopefully all goes well. If so, I'll post some pics and the info used in making them.
Paul
3in1 11 PIN ExtUSB Earphone Handsfree Adapter for HTC
Finally appeared on eBay what I was looking for a long time!!
I think that is the same that you are looking for!
http://cgi.ebay.com/3in1-11-PIN-Ext...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item3cabfd9d0b
Now I will not have a lot of wires apparent in the dashboard of my car!
not yet tested, I just bought!
Please let us know how long the cable is - thanks
Hi guys.
I bought 2 of them.
I'm using thet extension on my car, but when I connect to the USB power jacket, audio is affected by an annoying drone noise...
Of course audio backs perfect unplugging the power cable...
How to fix this?
Thanks!
I so far have not received my extension! But it should be on the way, because I live in Brazil and the request is coming from China.
At the moment I use an HTC adapter (http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Audio-Adapt...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27b1f6236b) and I also have the same audio problem when I'm charging my phone in the car. Sometimes it gets very loud and sometimes becomes very low distortion. I found that helps a lot if you leave the phone's volume low and increase the volume of your car sound. Sound distortion is less so.
Once I saw here in the forum someone recommending a audio filter but I can not find the thread that had the link, but basically that's what we need.
If you find a solution please post here!
When I get my extension I will test and post the results here too!
I also have that original HTC adapter, I bought it before.
With the adapter I have no noise, it's only difficult to raise 2 cable to the phone...
Otherwise, I think the filter is the only solution.
Could you try to remember any detail to search for it?
Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-377996.html , it's exactly what we have to fix...
My extension just arrived! In this second!
Using the HTC adapter you do not have any noise? I have sometimes and sometimes not!
Anyway I think we need something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Peripheral-PA...3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1275345446&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.com/Peripheral-PG...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1275345446&sr=1-12
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ground-Loop-Iso...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19b5fbb244
http://cgi.ebay.com/PAC-Audio-SNI-1...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c54bd2a89
Let's keep in touch until we solve it! I'll test my extension and post the result here.
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
blobotorian said:
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
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Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
indie said:
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
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Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
Sent from my Optimus 2X using xda premium
hobs0n said:
Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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That's totally proprietary. The phone that that is made for probably doesn't even have a 3.5mm jack.
biggy83 said:
Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
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Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
Your best bet for a single plug into your phone would probably be to use an MHL>HDMI adapter, and then get another adapter to convert from HDMI audio to 3.5mm.
That would be rather clunky though. HDMI > Anything (that isn't DVI) converters are going to run you at least about $40 for a start, and they aren't small either (probably not much smaller than the phone itself .) And they are externally-powered, so you'd need to provide power to both the MHL dongle and the HDMI converter, so it'd be super untidy.
You could do it though.
But you're probably better off using Bluetooth.
Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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My assumption comes from the fact that there is a "docking" option in the system settings of the Galaxy Note, meaning that there is support for docking stations and probably audio output for them.
I'm not saying that the Note is the only and first phone to have it, I'm just wondering if there are such cables out there and if such thing possible to be made through Micro USB.
I had an iPhone almost 2 years ago and such cable was available easily and it did really help in my car setup, and since the Note has the same slot setup of my old iPhone I would really like to know if a cable like that is somewhere out there.
Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
Hmmm, the both the official desktop dock and car dock have a 3.5mm audio out. It seems unlikely that there would be a USB DAC in the docks themselves, which suggests that analogue audio is being piped out the microUSB port on the phone itself.
Of course, the OP could just buy the official car dock to get nice tidy cabling...
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
gordonshowers said:
Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
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Exactly! I found out about this dock yesterday and I'm still wondering why isn't anything like of what I suggested earlier available? How come now one asked about this before!
zylor said:
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
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That is exactly what I want!
Very Interested in this as well. OEM dock wont work with a case. So this would be a great alternative paired with a car cradle such as this.
biggy83 said:
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
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This:
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This:
$7 + Shipping
I too really want one of these.
It is obviously possible as the destop & car dock do this.
The only way is, for someone with some electronics knowledge to pull one of these apart to see how its done. It would be interesting to see if it is straight audio out, or if there is a "Digital to Analogue Converter in there"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-ET-...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5051243939125627988
This might do the trick in the unlikely case that Note's microusb outputs audio. Tough I'm really interested in knowing for sure if the Galaxy Note microusb pumps line level audio.
Judging by the price of the desktop dock i wouldn't bet my money on the idea that it has not a dac. I
Use Bluetooth.
maybe at usbfever.com or dealextreme.com
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http://www.cablejive.com/ maybe
Hey guys im searchin for a sounddock for my android phone.
i found this one think atm. its the one and only with dock for android phones!?
if it isn´t plsease post some other and or if you have one other with your experience on it
Here is mine i found(maybe someone has it and writes his experience?):
http://www.amazon.de/Philips-AS851-...7M0K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342698547&sr=8-1
with best regards
F1tty
How about this one :
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-theater/DA-E651/ZA
I've seen them in the stores in the UK for about £ 180.00 (Currys, Comet, etc)
Sound quality is awesome, and I'm probably gonna get one at some stage. Charges the phone via USB but audio is either via Bluetooth or All share WiFi.
I'm waiting for a dock with usb audio. I could put up with Bluetooth, but won't bother plugging in to the headphone jack. But like I said I think I will wait, I hope there will be a few options by Christmas.
firetruck41 said:
I'm waiting for a dock with usb audio. I could put up with Bluetooth, but won't bother plugging in to the headphone jack. But like I said I think I will wait, I hope there will be a few options by Christmas.
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Yes that will be the Best solution like the Philips one ;-)...
the philips one supports sound over usb but only on devices that support this feature!
...but im still searching for another one....