Root for froyo 2.2 problems - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know i know
this is a very touchy topic so i wanna take a different approach,,,lets say that devs are working hard on a root for 2.2 stock for all of us that are stuck ....why not let this thread be the new discussion for what is happening with root and why it is not happening yet ..like what devs are running into as far as problems go and what not...i am not a dev but i have been roming since the droid and hero an moment have come out ...why dont we help the devs as much as possible and all work together to achieve this common goal and not fight about it all day ...cause in the end we all just want root and everyone will shut up and start enjoying what their evo is really capable of ...thank you devs for all the hard work and such ..lets get this thing cracked asap...
Ps ...please would a dev who is working on this step up and give a status of what exactly is happening and if they need help...

There was no need to create a new thread for this...though I could understand tour frustration if I was in your shoes...
Sorry sir... you have wait like everyone else whoa stuck on the latest OTA.
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Yes! I would love to have a real time transcript of all the devs' thoughts.
That would be fantastic.
Somehow I doubt that they would be jumping in here to update us, civilians, about their progress

Not to be the bad apple, but speaking realistically. When the Evo had 2.1, the Dev made comments all the time about that process and so on, and what to look for. This is different. No one is commenting at all. In fact, they are probable reading all these threads, looking at everyone's comment, calling each other and laughing. Why would they risk root, to help us?.. I'm just living and accepting the fact to live with the Official 2.2. Bottom line is, if they, the developers, were working on a exploit. What harm would it do to let the public know.. I'm not mad at the Dev. For 1, they're not getting paid an hourly rate to do this for the majority of people who will just download there hack without donating.. 2, they are already rooted. IT would be a different story if all the dev weren't rooted, and wanted total control over their phone. Then this would push them to find a way... And i mean thats just the way the world works. So you can't knock them for not finding a way... It is what it is... Just realisticly speaking

this process is killing me.....i miss hacking my nexus one, this evo 2.2 is a iphone that i cant fix up and customize...this sucks!!

I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?

garyfunk said:
I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?
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Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.

GaryJ51 said:
Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.
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No. And like I stated in my first message, the developers are busy writing ROMs.

you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.

nenn said:
you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.
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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.

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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.
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maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.

nenn said:
maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.
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My reading comprehension is adequate, thank you. My expectations are reasonable as well.

Rooting is a luxury not something that has to be offered up to the public. Up until recently it wasnt even considered completly legal. So for everyone here including myself for that matter that disregarded the warnings and took the update(also for the people who got their phones with 2.2 stock, thats just the way it goes.) Wait patiently, the devs dont owe you periodic updates on what they are doing with their free time. And enjoy your android phones, and if you wanna customize your phone, there are ways from the market you could do so with widgets and replacement launchers that can make your phone look original without rooting.

Agreed! Well said.

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[Q] 8/1 Froyo Update?

Sorry if this has been addressed in another thread. I didn't see one dedicated to it and it's a hard thing to search.
So the update is available again today, Sunday 8/1. Does anyone know if it's still the 3.26.651.3 release? I installed one of the rooted ROMs and just wanted to know if I need to worry about updating again (to a newer rooted ROM) due to a newer official version.
Thanks!
So, official OTA is live? This is new.
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Also, running one of the current ROMs means that you should plan to update. All of them have some kinks. They're very fresh.
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tjleeland said:
Sorry if this has been addressed in another thread. I didn't see one dedicated to it and it's a hard thing to search.
So the update is available again today, Sunday 8/1. Does anyone know if it's still the 3.26.651.3 release? I installed one of the rooted ROMs and just wanted to know if I need to worry about updating again (to a newer rooted ROM) due to a newer official version.
Thanks!
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Where did you see a new update posted? Please link to whatever you are getting that from...
No updates available for my phone using the settings..system updates (tho I am on the leaked 2.2)
I think he's referring to sprints post about froyo being available the week of 8/1.
Htc said the current froyo wasn't final so yes you will need to update again.
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I did a manual HTC software update on my wife's unrooted Evo at about 8PM (pacific) and got a message saying an update was available.
I haven't installed it, but I did download it. Can anyone tell me where it's saved to?
Dare yea to take the update then tell us if you are still rooted.
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tjleeland said:
I did a manual HTC software update on my wife's unrooted Evo at about 8PM (pacific) and got a message saying an update was available.
I haven't installed it, but I did download it. Can anyone tell me where it's saved to?
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Wait. So you installed the unrooted update, then got a notification that an update is ready on the same phone? Should be safe, just make sure the version numbers are different.
EDIT: Think you can copy it off the phone and post it somewhere?
Sporkman said:
Dare yea to take the update then tell us if you are still rooted.
sent with my evo from a secret place
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It won't be. It's my wife's unrooted phone.
superlinkx said:
Wait. So you installed the unrooted update, then got a notification that an update is ready on the same phone? Should be safe, just make sure the version numbers are different.
EDIT: Think you can copy it off the phone and post it somewhere?
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No, sorry for the confusion. I have two phones; my rooted Evo and my wife's unrooted Evo. I installed the rooted ROM on my phone. I was curious on Sunday to see if the "official" update was available for manual updaters, as some sources had suggested, so I did a manual HTC software update on my wife's stock 2.1 unrooted phone. I was offered an update for the new 3.whatever/1.47whatever update (I don't have it in front of me)
I'd be happy to upload it, but I'm not sure where's it's stored. It didn't seem to be in the SD card's root, or under downloads. does anyone know where it would be?
HTC's twitter had something to say about an hour ago:
http://twitter.com/HTC
Why "trolling?"
I'd really like to know why someone tagged this with "trolling." What did I do that you'd call me a troll? All I did was ask a simple question about the update I got on my phone on Sunday.
I have to say, while not the most unfriendly place I've ever visited, it's pretty ****ing close. You guys are constantly at each other's throats and constantly insulting each other. I've never seen the word "troll" used as much as I have here. I've never seen so much ridicule and flaming over nothing.
Some people are actually pissed off (and actually insulting people!) because some other users dared say they weren't impressed with Froyo. Are you ****ing serious? Really? That bothers you? Holy ****; you really need to get a life. Others were actually put off by the idea of starting an "off-topic" thread in the Evo group! Talk about not having enough to worry about! I've seen a poster called a fanboy and a troll because he simply mentioned CM6. It seems like everyone who dares make a positive statement about a ROM is automatically a fanboy troll.
It seems like anytime a person other than a developer starts a thread, someone has to say something insulting about the user or impinge their motive behind starting it. I fully expected someone to make a negative comment concerning me starting this thread -- I just didn't realize you'd be such a ***** that you'd have to hide behind tagging it.
The developers seem like decent people, but a lot of you hangers-on are just a bunch of immature, self-important, assholes who seem to feel a need to insult others and their choices in order to feel better about yourself and the choices you've made.
I'm sure this will be considered trolling, but since everything anyone does is labeled as such, it's sort of lost its meaning
We used to have a rule that the first person to bring up Hitler, Nazis, or the 3rd Reich in an argument automatically lost -- it's a mark of a weak intellect and a dearth of ideas. I think the same needs to be said about you idiots who trot out "troll" on every thread. I've been here a month and it's already gotten old.
New people are not going to stick around if you treat them like this.
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........Talk about not having enough to worry about! ............ but a lot of you hangers-on are just a bunch of immature, self-important, assholes.......
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that pretty much nails this forum
if you check for updates again can you right down, and post here he name of the update they list?
i do not recall if it gives a file name or revision number.
otherwise you might have to do it on your phone and then use root explorer or something to find the file.
i do not know if it is downloaded as "update.zip" or not.
you can also offer to upload it to one of the many hosting sites that are used here and one of the dev's cna look at it to see if its different than the one from last week.
Unrooted Stock 2.1 EVO here, there are no new updates available.
Allow me to end this discussion with an official source.
Sprint: "Sprint is the first wireless carrier to bring Android 2.2 to customers using the award-winning HTC EVO™ 4G beginning Tuesday, Aug. 3"
Tomorrow is the day that you are looking for.
I have used the most positively annoying, font and color combo to make this post complete.
Now stop with the rumors.
OMGWTF_BBQ said:
Unrooted Stock 2.1 EVO here, there are no new updates available.
Allow me to end this discussion with an official source.
Sprint: "Sprint is the first wireless carrier to bring Android 2.2 to customers using the award-winning HTC EVO™ 4G beginning Tuesday, Aug. 3"
Tomorrow is the day that you are looking for.
I have used the most positively annoying, font and color combo to make this post complete.
Now stop with the rumors.
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OK asswipe. Here is a picture of my wife's evo asking to do an update with your post in the background to show it's today. Notice the picture timestamp and phone time are the same (today at 9:15pm Pacific) and that my post was about eight minutes later. I don't seem to be able to post a pic or a link, so I put it up at ouiswing.com/photo4asswipe.jpg.
I'm not spreading rumors. I don't know what this update is and I'm trying to find out. Stop being a ****. Not everyone is playing games like you.
What is wrong with you people? And you made your point just by being the most annoying ass in the thread -- the font was overkill. But then moderation isn't something you would appear to understand -- it's just "I disagree! BASH!" with you.
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OK asswipe. Here is a picture of my wife's evo asking to do an update with your post in the background to show it's today. I don't seem to be able to post a pic or a link, so I put it up at ouiswing.com/photo4asswipe.jpg.
I'm not spreading rumors. I don't know what this update is and I'm trying to find out. Stop being a ****. Not everyone is playing games like you.
What is wrong with you people?
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Ill answer that for you budd as i like to help, it doesnt annoy me that people ask the same questions so i got your back
This the deal. Some people are getting the updates on to their phones sum arent (me). This update is so that it can improve your phone in many ways so when it comes out for you download it. Its nothing bad youll enjoy it hope that answered your question.. if u want a break down of the rom and the use, let me kno.
People need to be more helpful and stop being douchebags fo real. We all were Noobs so stop acting like einstein and think your on top ove everybody because your really not. All u gotta do is help and if u dont want to move on, dont leave smart ass comments like some 3rd graders comeone grow up! P.s im 20 yrs old and some ove you act like pre-mature men w no testicles... shut up
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cico7 said:
Ill answer that for you budd as i like to help, it doesnt annoy me that people ask the same questions so i got your back
This the deal. Some people are getting the updates on to their phones sum arent (me). This update is so that it can improve your phone in many ways so when it comes out for you download it. Its nothing bad youll enjoy it hope that answered your question.. if u want a break down of the rom and the use, let me kno.
People need to be more helpful and stop being douchebags fo real. We all were Noobs so stop acting like einstein and think your on top ove everybody because your really not. All u gotta do is help and if u dont want to move on, dont leave smart ass comments like some 3rd graders comeone grow up! P.s im 20 yrs old and some ove you act like pre-mature men w no testicles... shut up
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Thanks, I appreciate the help. I thought this was a place for learning, but I don't understand how anyone can learn something when they obviously feel they know everything already.
All I want to know is: how do I find out if this is the same version as the one that came out Thursday or Friday, which I believe was 3.26.651.3? I tried to find it on the SD card, but I can't.
v_lestat said:
if you check for updates again can you right down, and post here he name of the update they list?
i do not recall if it gives a file name or revision number.
otherwise you might have to do it on your phone and then use root explorer or something to find the file.
i do not know if it is downloaded as "update.zip" or not.
you can also offer to upload it to one of the many hosting sites that are used here and one of the dev's cna look at it to see if its different than the one from last week.
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does this picture help? ouiswing.com/photo4asswipe.jpg
Sorry but I don't seem to be able to post the phone or a link.

-->Why<-- ROOT Mytouch Slide???????

Why root mytouch slide??
I understand why you would want to root a G1, which i had and rooted for many different reasons.
but what can you do with mytouch slide?
Tether? that's it.. I mean, there is no point in apps2sd since froyo is coming.
So maybe if anyone gives me a good reason/enlightens me, i will root mytouch slide.
If you can't think of a reason, then you correct, you don't need root.
xologist said:
Why root mytouch slide??
I understand why you would want to root a G1, which i had and rooted for many different reasons.
but what can you do with mytouch slide?
Tether? that's it.. I mean, there is no point in apps2sd since froyo is coming.
So maybe if anyone gives me a good reason/enlightens me, i will root mytouch slide.
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I agree with Falken, if you don't know well why bother..
When cm 6 is ready, that its the only reason you will need
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Suntar said:
I agree with Falken, if you don't know well why bother..
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Why do alot of ppl here seem to have an attitude, like "if you dont know, I'm not gonna help you"?, I've been on internet forums forever and this place seems to be worse in that regard, maybe just in my travels it seems that way, but maybe theres reasons he'd like to use his phone for that he didnt even think of that root would enable..
but root does seem kinda useless unless you plan on changing roms and having complete control of your phone.
IMO there isn't really many reasons. All Froyo roms i've flashed arent worth changing from stock just YET. I just rooted it so I can say I rooted it tbh xD.
IF SetCPU, Apps2sd, and screenshot are that important to you, I guess theres a reason :-/
Yeah, A2SD and screenshots are the only real reasons for me. Otherwise, I just like to tinker, and trying new roms is fun.
FWIW, I hadn't found a Froyo rom that I liked until TeamFenix's latest release. It has just about everything working.
EDIT: Oh, and regarding people just saying "if you don't know, you don't need it"... I think it's actually kind of a protective thing. Unless you have a reason to root, you're really just taking a risk with your phone that you don't need to.
Rooting your phone gives you the ability to customize your phone the way you want it.
A2sd is a good thing to have if you like to keep alot of apps and wireless teather is cool too especialy if you dont have internet for your pc or what not. But neither of those 2 reasons was why I rooted.
Unfortunatly we dont have full root for the slide yet so some of the apps that are made for rooted phones are NOT fully functional. Such as setCPU (we dont have the ability to make system changes unless in recovery). That does make it a little harder to do some customization.
IMHO....if you are interested in learning about android and making your phone look and act like you want it to, then root it and get to reading the forums to help get some ideas on how to make it your own.
If your not into learning and are the type of person that would make useless posts in the forum asking questions that can be figured out easily from reading, then please DO NOT ROOT YOUR PHONE. There are allready plenty of those types of people in the forums.
Oh and BTW.....you can always root it and if you dont like it then just unroot it and put it back to stock or leave it rooted but run a stock rom.
Check out my Avatar and that will give you a idea of some small changes that can be made ( custom slider, notification bar icons, font ) and those are just a few of the changes I have made.
TrueBlue_Drew said:
Rooting your phone gives you the ability to customize your phone the way you want it.
A2sd is a good thing to have if you like to keep alot of apps and wireless teather is cool too especialy if you dont have internet for your pc or what not. But neither of those 2 reasons was why I rooted.
Unfortunatly we dont have full root for the slide yet so some of the apps that are made for rooted phones are NOT fully functional. Such as setCPU (we dont have the ability to make system changes unless in recovery). That does make it a little harder to do some customization.
IMHO....if you are interested in learning about android and making your phone look and act like you want it to, then root it and get to reading the forums to help get some ideas on how to make it your own.
If your not into learning and are the type of person that would make useless posts in the forum asking questions that can be figured out easily from reading, then please DO NOT ROOT YOUR PHONE. There are allready plenty of those types of people in the forums.
Oh and BTW.....you can always root it and if you dont like it then just unroot it and put it back to stock or leave it rooted but run a stock rom.
Check out my Avatar and that will give you a idea of some small changes that can be made ( custom slider, notification bar icons, font ) and those are just a few of the changes I have made.
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Technically, you have full root, just not fully unlocked nand
-jd
xologist said:
Why root mytouch slide??
I understand why you would want to root a G1, which i had and rooted for many different reasons.
but what can you do with mytouch slide?
Tether? that's it.. I mean, there is no point in apps2sd since froyo is coming.
So maybe if anyone gives me a good reason/enlightens me, i will root mytouch slide.
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For now, its going to be for small tweaks.
I use it for things like Cachemate and SetCPU, as well as having a Froyo rom, the added security features are a welcome addition for me.
There isnt a huge "everyone must have root because of X" reason yet, mainly due to the limited root abilities we have currently due to the nand situation. Eventually you will find it more of a "must have" thing, as overclocked kernels and the rest make it into the MTS ecosystem, but for now Id have to agree with everyone else, if you cannot think of a reason why you would need to root, then there is no point in rooting. Most everyone who is rooting currently is doing so for very specific reasons.
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Technically, you have full root, just not fully unlocked nand
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Technically???? Dont talk to me about technically. Because technically someone that can work the android kitchen is not a dev!!! Stop trying to up your post count on a account you just opened a month ago. Your post had absolutly nothing to do with the OP question therefore it is as useless as your other 800 posts.
Khawng said:
IMO there isn't really many reasons. All Froyo roms i've flashed arent worth changing from stock just YET. I just rooted it so I can say I rooted it tbh xD.
IF SetCPU, Apps2sd, and screenshot are that important to you, I guess theres a reason :-/
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I'm loving the CM6 Kanged rom, I've only used it a day, but I'd say its better than the stock rom...still too early to really tell though...
I rooted mine for the opportunities that lie ahead. Right now there is nothing I am wild about. Maybe when froyo or something else does I will be ready. I am running out of memory tho.
once your rooted you can start to play around, i came from the cliq where i made roms,themes etc... and i started already just get used to the layout of everything and how it works and by the time u no it ull be posting stuff
I don't know why so many of you are saying "if you don't know what root is don't root" or similar phrases.. if you would have read my 1st post, you know I rooted my G1.. -_-
I mean, I would download it for apps2sd, but froyo is coming with move to sd..
CM tether is pretty good too..
I guess I will browse around and think wether to root it or not.. thank u for all replies anyways
dion20 said:
Why do alot of ppl here seem to have an attitude, like "if you dont know, I'm not gonna help you"?, I've been on internet forums forever and this place seems to be worse in that regard, maybe just in my travels it seems that way, but maybe theres reasons he'd like to use his phone for that he didnt even think of that root would enable..
but root does seem kinda useless unless you plan on changing roms and having complete control of your phone.
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I've found many of the people on these forums to be quite helpful, while there is a small miniority who enjoy being elitist jerks. "Oh, my time is too valueable to help out a noob (although I have plenty of time to make snarky replies to their posts!)"... A-holes...
Anyway, the reason I chose to root, aside from CM6, is the ability to Over/Under-clock the device. I am a tweaker at heart, and while it may not make the most practical sense to ramp up the speed... Ima do it anyway
if you are a tweaker then you can root, if you don't tether and are afraid of breaking the phone then don't root. i have always said to anyone who asked me that if you can't think of 3 good reasons to root your phone then you don't really need to. i rooted my G1 and my slide, but not the mytouch and all my phones are just fine the way they are. since i cannot seem to root the mytouch(goldacard wont work) i kept it stock and handed it off to my girl who doesn't need that stuff. personally i have to have root because i have to tether my phone and CM tether was absolutely the shiz on the g1, never had any issues with drivers or anything not working, also i have hacked every winmo phone i ever had so it's kinda a habit to hack my phones right out of the box to unlock the true potential, yeah right now we can't write to the NAND but one day we will be able to and i'm waiting for that
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I just rooted it so I can say I rooted it tbh xD.
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Same here. It's the geek in me wanting to have a bragging right.

[Q] Where to start

Hi, let me start by apologizing for my ignorance but ive always been in love with phones for i dont know how long and i finally have a good one specifically the evo and even though i love phones i no little about the software but i want to learn. can anyone point to the start i want to learn rooting flashing ROMs and kernels the works im not so much interested in developing but that might change once im more knowledgeable in the whole process im just some high school kid so my tech knowledge right now is pretty much zero please help i no everyone here started somewhere so can u tell me where i just want to make my phone as good as possible
Let me ask you this: What software version is on your phone right now? 2.1 or 2.2?
im running 2.2 on my evo
Take a gander at the development forum. There is a guide that was posted just a couple of days ago about rooting 2.2. Great timing for you since this method was only just discovered.
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
Welcome!
Oh..and be sure to do a search in the forums for any issues you may have before posting a question to the forums. Chances are it has already been addressed...unless you enjoy getting flamed.
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Be sure to check out the evo wiki too. It has many guides and tutorials to get you started in the right direction.
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sombdy said:
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
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That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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LOL! Except we're Android people, so in the spirit of openness, I demand that you make that quote 100% free and available. (kinda like how people bash the unrevoked team about not giving away their methods...)
SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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True, but wouldn't be plausible for an OTA to be released that turned the security permissions back on and plugged the exploits for rooting? That's why I just say be cautious. UF probably will work "forever" but it's no reason to be careless. Sticking with the rooted ROMs is just a safer bet.
So if you don't want to loose root, give those Sprint OTAs the boot.
Yeah...I'm not copyrighting that. It sucks! lol!
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thanks for all ur help i love this site so full of smart helpful people

some issues after root

some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
Do you know what rom he installed?
Chanbob said:
he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
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This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
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bmfc187 said:
This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
I'm pretty sure you'll learn the how's afterwards since you're going to be reading and absorbing info from this forum
But for now... fixing the issues at hand.
The problem on adobe flash is actually something not exactly fixable... the flash 10 is just not for our device (correct me if I'm wrong x_x) and so the current cm6 is just unable to use flash... =/
As for swype... I actually asked the same question when I flashed cm6 rom. The thread is in the Q&A subforum titled [Q]Swype on CM6? or something like that. There will be links to dl swype. Have fun =)
Hope this helps lol.
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Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
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Chanbob said:
This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
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If you didn't want anyone to hold you hand. why post asking for help? BMFC's post is actually what you should do. Also your phone isn't just rooted, its running a custom software. and as with any custom software its should be obvious that stuff you had from stock just isnt going to be there. (flash lite and stock swype.) Also THIS POST IS IN THE WRONG SECTION. IF YOU HAD READ THE STICKIES which I know for a fact that you didn't you might have learned a thing or two. seriously. is it that hard to read the stickies? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701241
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702973
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704567
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747388
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704865
Your problem isn't really a problem at all. you are running cyan0gen mod 6. That being said since it is a 3rd party android build due to copyright laws, cyan0gen cant add a lot of the things you liked from your stock build. Like BMFC said rooting isn't for end users, you can really mess stuff up when you have root access and not know anything, My first android phone is the mytouch 3G Slide so I don't know as much as others but I do have a Linux background so as to knowing about root I am aware that it is something for more advanced users, and everything I learned I read in the stickies and through trial and error. Asking for help is fine no wrong doing in that but you have to understand that unless you have some idea as to what you are doing you shouldn't dive into rooting your phone. I didn't root my phone until after the first few ROMs were out. I read up on rooting and what benefits it could give me, also in my reading you come to understand what happens when you flash a custom ROM, and when I did it wasn't easy(it was a pain) but it got done. and yes I ran into some problems. but there was already answers for them in the stickies. My advice to you is the same as BMFC's advice and go to Chiefz' Stock OTA 1.35 ROM and you will back at stock with flash lite and you beloved swype, because apart from that you can only get swype on CM6 and thats if you download it through a third party, stay on that ROM until you learn a little more about how android works, getting and setting up the sdk, and getting comfortable enough with adb and what needs to be done with root, go ahead and root it YOURSELF. I wont link you to swype,learn to use the search button, and learn to lurk this forum.
inb4 lrn2grammar
bmfc187 said:
Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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lol your post is similar to mine only i didn't see it befor eI posted mine or I would have held back on my post lol.
Bahaaaaa Dang BMFC187 you sounded like u have been wanting to say that to someone. That made me LOL.
As far as the OP...you need to read the thread that says "slide Rom bible" and start there. Sounds to me like u need to flash an updated ROM, plus there are lots of links in there that are helpful.
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Wow. I didn't realize a simple question would ruffle so many feathers.
The reason I thought something was wrong is because my wife and I have the same phone, we got them at the same time, they were both rooted at the same time with the same rom. Some of the features that work on her phone don't work on mine. In my mind, something wasn't right.
Thank you to those who took the time to be courteous and helpful by pointing me in a direction to start looking.
there is no way, unless your wife is running a stock espresso based ROM that she would flash(lite) running in her browser. swype yes. flash lite no. you still haven't read the stickies have you?
Just for the hell of it. What's wrong with a new guy who realizes he has an issue that he would like resolved. Yes he did several things the wrong way.
1. Saw eye candy and wanted it (valuable lesson being eye candy is not always what you want.
2. Not educating yourself and Do it your damn self.
3. Coming to these forum asking for help without being prepared to be flamed (most xda seniors are hot headed)
4. If you can't do it yourself then you prob shouldn't have root
? Oops there be another ? Mark now I go to the q&a corner.
Ahhh sleep time
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Chanbob said:
some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
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Assuming you can figure out what to do, there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7534187#post7534187 which is a ROM that's based off the stock variety. Can't speak for bloat (didn't like stock rom) but it may work for you.
As for flashing, I am not 100% sure what state your recovery is so no idea if you can realistically flash a ROM, but it's worth a shot.
Also, on the Android Market, there's the ROM Manager, which may help (or hinder) the situation...

Devlopment and Custom Roms

my gf just got this stupid little phone so now im in the process of getting it rooted and getting a rom out.
it will be some time as i dont have much free time.
i dev on the epic mostly but this should be pretty easy. so anyone that knows even a little about what their doing send me a pm so we cant get something going.
alot of ppl are going to be getting this phone sense alltel was giving away that really bad excuse for an android phone the wildfire.
isaac
I can't help, but I will say... finally.
feefeeboomboom said:
my gf just got this stupid little phone...alot of ppl are going to be getting this phone sense alltel was giving away that really bad excuse for an android phone the wildfire.
isaac
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I don't think it's that bad. Plus, it works on t-zones when unlocked
I will name my children after you...
They shall be called
Telegraphfeefeeboomboom
Thanks a lot for your time and your effort!
Awesome, feefeeboomboom/isaac. The flipside stinks on 2.1. There is no storage space. I really really want 2.2 or 2.3 to be able to store my apps on the SD card.
I hope it you are making progress and that you stay with your GF and that she lets you play with her phone.
Any Updates?
I'm willing to help
Never deved on an android phone before, but I'm a linux admin, and I love doing custom hacks on these things. If I can be of help, let me know. Trying to see how to get the ball rolling on setting up a CM6 version for this phone right now. I'm pretty sure with the limited hardware that this phone has, CM7 would be a huge overkill -- if it would run at all.
telegraph0000 said:
I will name my children after you...
They shall be called
Telegraphfeefeeboomboom
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Most awesome post ever
And yea my Gf has this phone any development would be great
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Well a cm7 ROM was just realeased for the Motorola Backflip...you really think it would be too much on the Flipside?
JBallin4life27 said:
Well a cm7 ROM was just realeased for the Motorola Backflip...you really think it would be too much on the Flipside?
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Well, you caught me. I actually think it would run fine, but it is much easier to use the same kernel and just mod everything else. You can run 2.2 on 2.1 kernels, but you can't run 2.3 on 2.1 or 2.2. So, with that said, it's much easier for me to just take a current image, strip out the bloat, and give everyone a new version based on 2.2 that works out of the box than finding all the missing kernel modules for 2.3 and building it from there.
In short, I'm lazy, and I want to have a newer release out faster.
haha oh ok no sweat! Sorry wasn't tryin to call you out...just curious. Anything that can be done would be great! Hope you get something going soon!
I was thinking of maybe getting the flipside on te insurance program (from a backflip) but it seems like you guys are worse off than us. i cant seem o find source code on moto's site... do you guys know where it might be?
Any progress on a CM7 port? I just got my GF a flipside since she can't deal with on screen keyboards....and she previously had a backflip with CM7 lol
so I've been visiting recently on this and the cyanogen mod forums and it doesn't look like anyone has hit gold yet, or have I missed something somewhere and all the cool kids are having fun with their flipsides and I'm out in the lurch?
My wife too got this phone because of the keyboard...If no development comes soon...I think I might just try and sell it to whatever sucker wants to buy it and then head on over to Canada (eh?) and purchase a G2...
maybe soon...
Motorola is beta testing froyo right now. We may soon have a valid froyo image for the awesome development teams to work with.

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