[Q] Backing up etc - Desire General

Hi all. Well I've not rooted yet (just not had the time), and have a stock orange UK ROM with the default stuff! I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer to simple backup questions!
I am having the reboot issues (well documented in another thread), and it's getting worse and worse. even to the extent now that it's rebooting after calls (started out when charging using games, then now I cant run navigation for more than 2 minutes).
I have been told to do a factory reset (not a bad idea TBH). But backups is my main concern.
I have my contacts and calendar fine (not an issue), what I am concerned about mainly is my paid for apps. I have just synced with AppBrain, but will this get my paid for apps back?
Also SMS is the other thing I want to backup, I have installed SMS Backup which backs up to an XML file, which I can read. But read that some people have had problems with restoring, is this true? Or can someone recommend a better app? I am not too concerned with settings, as happy to do things slightly differently this time round, so mainly paiud for apps! Also what happens when orange eventaulyl send me a new phone (which seems to be the resoltuion of the paid for apps?)
I will take the SD card out when I factory reset, but what else should I worry about?
Regards, Martin

I have used SMS Backup and it seems to work fine with me. Not sure if it backs up MMS though, but there is a seperate free tool to save the MMS to SDcard available on the market.
As for your paid for apps, they will show up in the Market once you have perfromed a factory reset and you will be able to re-install without having to pay again. Just make sure that you log in using the same credentials.
The backups I perfored prior to rooting were as follows:
1) export contacts to SDCard
2) backup SMS using SMS Backup & Restore
3) Backup call logs using Call Logs Backup and Restore - I wanted to keep these.
A factory reset should not wipe what is currently on your SDCard, but I cannot hurt to copy the contents to your PC/Laptop before doing the reset.

dcnice said:
I have used SMS Backup and it seems to work fine with me. Not sure if it backs up MMS though, but there is a seperate free tool to save the MMS to SDcard available on the market.
As for your paid for apps, they will show up in the Market once you have perfromed a factory reset and you will be able to re-install without having to pay again. Just make sure that you log in using the same credentials.
The backups I perfored prior to rooting were as follows:
1) export contacts to SDCard
2) backup SMS using SMS Backup & Restore
3) Backup call logs using Call Logs Backup and Restore - I wanted to keep these.
A factory reset should not wipe what is currently on your SDCard, but I cannot hurt to copy the contents to your PC/Laptop before doing the reset.
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Thanks for this, yes call logs would be cool too! I'm not too fussed with regards to the settings of the phone, gives me a chance to start over! Im not even that fussed on SMS's nice to have a history they're currently backing up to the google mail thing!
It was the apps I've paid for most concerned for, and yeah sounds good that it's tied to the google account, guess that means if/when I get a new phone they'll just get copied over to the new phone, when orange realise that it needs to be replaced... Pffftt...
Many thanks makes sence now (used to the iTunes/iPhone system! WHich shilst walled, does make some things easy! I PREFER DROID THO!)

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HTC Restore Problem

Hi guys
I recently factory restored my HTC Desire and the built-in backup prompted me to restore my settings, which I did, but for some reason my SMS messages were not restored.
I checked the SD card, and there is a backup there, but of course the files are encrypted. Is there any way to read these files, or to restore my messaging SMS?
Thanks in advance!
Am I right in saying that the backups's hashes are salted with the device serial #? If that's the case then decryption should be quite possible.
I have had the exact same problem today. Had to return my Desire as it was faulty for a straight swap (kept the same SIM and SD card). The SD card has restored all contacts and music, but SMS messages have not transferred over. I've looked at every possible option in the settings but can't seem to see how to do this.
I'd be grateful for any advice or info. Thankyou.
slightly old thread, but relevant to my problem....
have been playing around a lot with my desire over the past week, and managed to delete the wrong nandroid backup and lost all my sms. I have a sense auto backup form a day or so earlier, but cannot for the life of me get the phone to read these - there's no option to restore just backup.
So, tried factory reset from recovery, copied the 'old' backup to the sd, and booted. Nothing was restored. Have tried all sorts of combos to try and get the backup to be read, but no joy at all. Even completely wiping everything, flashing the original rom i was using (modaco 3.1) and restarting, but still sense doesnt see the backup.
I definitley remember it doing it once during all the crazy rom swopping of the last few days, and the sms, wifi key etc all restored, but I can't get it to do it again.
Any ideas about 'forcing' the restore? I know that the backup is handset specific (tied to the serial/imei?) but it should restore on any rom using sense yeh?
all help greatly appreciated
ta.
another small thought, there may be an app idea in here for anyone thats interested - reading the sense backup and applying it by force? i know quite a few people tend to backup their sd card regularly, so it could be useful as a last resort option.
I guess there's not much I can help you but to avoid this problem in the future you might want to use SMS backup (by Cristoph Studer, there are 2 others on the Market with the same name) - backs up your sms's to your Gmail account, works great. I love the Cloud!
I have used sms backup in the past, didn't bother this time as i had the nandroid backup. Kicking myself as I'm usually pretty careful about what files i'm getting rid of, and have got all my sms for about the last ten yrs (minus the 2 months i just lost) for blackmail purposes time to crank the delete button paranoia up a notch again
edit: solved tok everything off the sd card, made sure i had the backup set from the date range i wanted, wiped absolutely everything from recovery, reflashed the rom i was running when the backup was taken & rebooted. the backup was picked up fine, all settings, sms etc back with no problems.
the small trick to getting this to occur seems to be just let the phone sit for a minute when it reboots - i assume that if you go into the setup wizard before the sd card is correctly moutned and read that you bypass the restore. i had done the same procedure to try to get it to restore before and it didn't, the pause to allow the sd card to be read was the only thing i did differently.
I'm having the same issue, I want to restore a back-up from my SD card, but cannot see any way to do it. I've tried a factory reset, but still no luck.
Can a restore be forced? The 2.2 upgrade seems to have removed Settings>Privacy
Same problem here, Froyo won't restore my backup.
I tried to downgrade to Eclair, but the installation failed with "Error 140: wrong bootloader version".
I guess my backup is pretty useless now...
Frojo wont restore settings after hardreset
I asked HTC about this, and here's the answer:
Thanks for your question regarding backup of your device. The former feature backup to SD card is missing in this newer version. This is due to Google, which has developed backup feature in the software, changed the system in 2.2, then back out to their servers instead. This applies to the Google devices, such as NexusOne. When your device is the HTC brand, we have some backup features as before. However, you can take backup in the following way (as with older versions of Android): Contacts: You can save contacts via Outlook when they are created as telephone contacts. For this you need HTC Sync and Outlook on your computer. HTC Sync, see your device's SD card. To open the map, select Mount in the device, your device is displayed on the computer as an external disk drive. Then you find the program through your computer's Windows Explorer, and also integrates it on your computer. You can now sync. You can also download HTC Sync from our website under Support tab. If you use Google contacts they can be retrieved back when you set up your email again. If you have configured an Exchange server, you can also download contacts onto the device again. Calendar appointments: These are transferred in the same manner as contacts. Emails: These can be synchronized over again through your Exchange server, or if you have Google mail. Data files: These can be transmitted via computer Explorer when you select Mount as previously described. You can then transfer your files to a folder on your computer. SMS and MMS: Those you can not backup.
Blueyed1
Way to go HTC.... hurray
The more I learn about Google and HTC's way of handling my data I get more determined to Root my phone to get full access of my phone, and to control what data and in what way that data is transferred to either google or HTC.
When you compare to the way Apple is controlling it's sheep herd, Google is not any better when it comes to data gathering and data sniping.
Blueyed1 said:
SMS and MMS: Those you can not backup.
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WTF????????????????????????????
DRMON said:
WTF????????????????????????????
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Backup not possible with previeus build in backup, that is..

migrating from one EVO to a NEW Evo

well long story short... unrelated to anything herein... i have two EVO phones. one is a replacement phone for the current active phone. Sprint sent it to me, cause they couldn't figure out why Google's market wouldn't download apps to my phone. (I solved that problem on my own) but in the mean time i had this replacement phone, so I decided to test things out...
I have fully rooted the test phone, and I am using DamageControl v3.2.3. I installed apps on this phone over wifi.. and started to think that now i need to move my data over from the current active phone.
I have titanium backup paid version. On the test phone, i have backed up the phone going through the root and unlocking of NAND process. Pretty cool application.
I also have "lookout" installed on the active phone, and it is current.
My question is, best i can tell much of the application data seems to be on the SDRAM card. Is that not the case? what data is actually lost during a root proces or NAND unlocking process?
Since Titanium backup requires root access I really can't back up the current phone using that application. I have some backup with the "lookout" application. But i was wondering when the device gets flashed... what exactly is getting writen over.
i see a folder called Mail on the SD card... it is about 50mb... is that where my mail messages are from my different POP3 accounts? on the test phone, all of the mail account settings are not there obviously... but if i add the email accounts will it read the mail from the SDcard created using the other phone?
here is the data I like to migrate over from the rootless phone to the rooted phone.
1. mail messages from about 12 mail accounts
2. Mail account settings
3. layout of the different Sense walls (or whatever they are called) ..you know the faces with all of the icons you see when you look at the phone (there are 7)
4. phone call history
5. SMS messages and history
6. application settings
7. Browser bookmarks (and settings)
i can see my pictures and video are located on my sdram card, but not sure about the above items....
can you help? I am a skilled IT network pro, but not too skilled in the phone's unix like workings... can you help?
There are probably several ways you can do this, but I think it will be easier to accomplish this if you root your rootless phone. Once that phone is rooted you can use titanium or make a nandroid back up and restore on the phone that already has root. Both nandroid backup and titanium backups are saved on the SD card. If rooting is not an option your going to have to look for an app that can make backups without root. There might be one out there but I dont know of any.
it is not clear to me, what exactly is lost when I root. There are warnings that states:
"wipe all of your data so brace for that. backup or what not"
doesn't that mean I will loose user data in step 1 of the toastcfh process before i am able to install (or run) titanium backup?
the warning is not really clear to me exactly what is going on....
I am not against rooting, the rootless phone. Do think Sprint would care if I send them a rooted phone I suppose i could de-root, the rooted phone. I remember seeing somebody having a process for that... not sure.
need some help clearing up some of this... thanks!

Titanium Backup and MyBackup Root Alternative?

fyi - I believe it works with our phones... gonna give it a shot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scd.app2zip&hl=en
Great find...I've been using Go Backup and its really slow but efficient ...thx
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
no prob just wanted to let others know we have options and not that what we use now is bad anyways but you never know....
Rom Toolbox Pro as well
Any one knows which files are the ones that contains the TXT data, phone data, contact data phone log data?
I just did a total data wipe back to factory and Titanium works great to restore all your programs and most settings but for example I restored GO SMS and the actual TXT did not come back, I restore phone and the calls did not come back.
Now I have been using My phone explorer and all this data was there but i am curious to know if titanium backs up this data and what are the name of the files.
Also I realized that if you do not have a copy of Titanium in your SD card you have a big problem after a complete data wipe on your phone.
I personally had a copy on box (cloud) so i was able to re install it and go from there. It took me around 10 minutes to have all my phone restore to normal exception all my contacts, TXT, emails that I restore with my phone explorer.
Also in my titanium back up I could not find my gmail settings since I only set up that account to be able to run my phone market I did not remember my user name nor the password. Anyone knows where that information is store in titanium backup? I have to get the info from my rollodesk.
Also all my WIFI passwords which file do I need to restore?
thanks

[Q] Absolute Best SMS/MMS Backup/Recovery

Have you ever lost your SMS/MMS messages restoring or installing new ROMs?
If you're like me, when you restore a Nandroid backup you do not want to have to lose your SMS/MMS, Phone Log, Contacts, etc.
I have bought or downloaded so many MMS backup stuff it ain't funny! All of them either Jumble up the chronologic order or miss a whole bunch of items and just don't work!
I have finally (for the better part of a year now) found a perfect solution, No Root Required, but if you're rooted, it still works fine.
Before I change roms, restore roms or anything that might alter the text messaging stuff, I do a backup of my sms/mms, phone log and contacts. (there are others to choose from as well) using MY BACKUP PRO, I first used My Backup Free, but since it worked so well, I bought the Pro version to support the author.
After I restore any previous nandroid, I reboot and go to the native Messaging app and DELETE ALL THE MESSAGES.
With a new rom, just install the rom, go to market and install Backup pro..
Then I simply open My Backup and restore the last backup I did and reboot. Simple, FAST, and I have never had any problems.
ALL THE MESSAGES are in the EXACT order and all the pictures in the MMS restorations are just like they were before I recovered the Nandroid. It's like I never changed anything! That is how I want it to work, and it does. (I have over 2,500 messages)
If you find yourself needing/wanting to save the stuff you have and want to reload a different ROM or Nandroid backup, You might just want to try this way of doing it. You just might be surprised as to how easy and fast this is.
I have configured My Backup to use the ExtSDcard as the repository for my backups, so that it makes things workable.
if you don't have an external SDcard, just do the backup, and copy the backup file to your PC so you can do the recovery after reinstalling The My backup app. If you cannot connect to the PC you can use AirDroid or even Gmail it to yourself.
Just my 2 cents ... For anyone that tinkers with their phone.
Aloha and Good Luck!!

Backing up SMS, apps etc before ROM install...

Hi guys, sorry for the lame question. I feel bad asking because I've done dozens of different ROM installs on all kinds of different phones down the years, but there's always something I've never got.
How do I back up all my SMS's, installed apps etc and restore them after I've done a FULL WIPE and installed a new ROM? (SMS is the main one, I hate losing all those)
spireite_uk said:
Hi guys, sorry for the lame question. I feel bad asking because I've done dozens of different ROM installs on all kinds of different phones down the years, but there's always something I've never got.
How do I back up all my SMS's, installed apps etc and restore them after I've done a FULL WIPE and installed a new ROM? (SMS is the main one, I hate losing all those)
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The process I'd suggest you for transferring your data when switching ROMs is:
1. Back up
For SMS's, use SMS Backup & Restore. It creates a backup XML which will be used to restore your SMS's after wiping.
For apps and their data, use Titanium Backup (Requires root).
For calls, Call Logs Backup and Restore. It also creates a backup XML like SMS Backup and Restore.
For contacts, I personally sync them using my Google account. If you don't like this you can use MyPhoneExplorer or any contacts backup app.
2. Full Wipe & ROM install
2b. Root your ROM if it is not rooted already.
3. Install Titanium Backup from an APK or Play Store.
4. Use Titanium Backup to restore user apps and their data. I suggest restoring ONLY user apps, unless you know what you are doing. Now it is also a good time to check which apps you really need to restore, since you may have back ups of applications that you don't need anymore.
5. Restore your SMS's and call logs from their backup XMLs using their respective applications.
6. Restore your contacts by syncing or by using the app you chose to back them up.
I've found some that backup to XML won't work if you have pictures in your messages. So either, save the pictures off, or you can use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=backup.email.inapp&hl=en
It uses your Google account to backup and store your MMS/SMS messages. It works great.
How about using LG backup. It can backup both apps and data so I think it can both backup sms and call logs...

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