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What is the best video format for Dash?

Hi everyone,
I would like to add some video into by Dash, but I don't know what is the best format to use.
What value to use in each setting to have a smooth video playback?
Sampling rate: ?
Bit Rate: ?
Frame Rate: ?
Video Size: ?
Thank all for the input
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I just use Vio Video converter from thepiratebay.org. It converts all videos in a format specific to the particular phone. Look up vio video converter on google.

skyline247 said:
I just use Vio Video converter from thepiratebay.org. It converts all videos in a format specific to the particular phone. Look up vio video converter on google.
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Thank skyline247 for the quick reply.
I will look that up
Thank

Just as an addition Mono low bitrate sound to keep down on data and make easier to read.
Also the framerate should be the same as original source can be found via right click properties on original file. "other wise you can get output like 2-1 pulldown does on frames"

i think the best video format in terms of size first is flv,which r youtube videos format once u download them in the flv format just put them in ur Dash
I use Youtube Video downloader its a free tool to download nd convert youtube videos

if you want perfect dvd quality .avi files are the way to go. play em' using tcpmp. however .avi files tend to be large files so that's the only drawback (of course not unless you have an 8 gig like me =)

i encode them in avi using virtualdub or tmpgenc
bitrate 288, 2 pass encoding,
320x 240
for proper aspect ratio use this
http://andrew.hedges.name/experiments/aspect_ratio/
put source ratio, then put 320, get the 4th parameter !
audio - 128kbps or 96kbps (songs or speech), cbr, 32mhz sampling
i don't care for size, cause i got 8gb card in it

first get the tcpmp then the pocket divx encoder its free and encode your videos on xvid in avi containers ive been able to play 1 gig movies with a bitrate around 1000 and a resolution of 640 * 270 and audio at 128 but you dont really need that much quality because the dash only has a screen of 320 * 240 soo just resise the video and play with the bitrate till you get what you want ohhh and dont use h 264 it requires more prossesing because the compression its more complex soo you wiil get a very low framerate really the best is xvid hope this helps

Thank everyone for your great and valuable information. I will do on your advice
Thank all

Best Video Setting for Smooth Video?

Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.

chongbh said:
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
elab

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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
elab
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InTpNWJ4HQ

Can only get on youtube through my Rhodium at work but isn't that video HD?
It's got a pretty fast processor for a phone but it's still only 533MHz, it can't playback HD content!

I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?

Yea i have no issues at all with any video format with coreplayer with the exception of mkvs.

mnico said:
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
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I am also using Core Player for playing back the above FLV format file.

Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.

The HTC player will playback mp4's encoded with H.264, so long as they're Standard Definition with stereo audio.

mnico said:
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.

What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.

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What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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I have used Coreplayer for playback.
Tried encoding "The Black Knight" Movie in the below format :
1) Width x Height (704 x 296)
2) Bit Rate (64kbs)
3) Audio Format (Lame MP3)
4) Frame Rate (23 frames/second)
5) Data Rate (1031 kbs)
6) video Sample Size (24 bit)
7) Video Compression (XVID)
There is some portion of the playback jerky and not smooth, any problem with the above settings?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.

chongbh said:
I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
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I used a Firefox addon that "strips" the contents out of the pages (videos, sounds, SWF, ...). It can also be used to convert to other video formats while downloading, but I didn't use this feature as I wanted to test with the real deal.
I double-checked just now, and the smaller file (LowRes) is 4.76MB and it's fully functional and it plays 'till the end. The HD is 33,9MB. Perhaps there's a different file version when you stream directly from the internet... it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just guessing.
I didn't had time to continue searching for the right codecs yet. But I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm sure I was not the 1st to experience this "issue" and the codecs "should" exist somewhere... so I hope.

Aquila-169 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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Thanks for your recommendation and I recode the video again, it is much smoother playing over the WMP.
Will use this program to encode future DVD or Video for playback in my Touch Pro 2.

Encoding video - best settings?

Hi I have just started using handbrake and I am a little baffled. What settings or programs do use to encode video for the Desire?
I tried one encode to .mp4 using h.264 codec however I only get the sound and no video. Any help would be appreciated....

use Mpeg-4 instead of h.264 at 800x480px, works fine

I use the built in settings for the iphone and it works fine!
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

JaykaySLO said:
use Mpeg-4 instead of h.264 at 800x480px, works fine
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Hi how do you set the size to 800x480 and maintain the original aspect ratio?

There is no way. 800x480px is the max resolution to use. If you have a file with a lower res, leave it at that.

Oh I see, I'll give that a go....
It's really odd that there isn't a decent video player app out there.....

you can set the width to 800px and pres the keep aspect ratio. that will set the height to whatever is needed to keep the aspect ratio.

If your after a decent media player try nemoplayer (I cant post the link to the thread but the thread number is 598509)
I converted a video to [email protected], it stuttered a little with the default player, but played perfectly with nemoplayer.
As for conversion, I have found Xilisoft to be very good, I paid for it to convert videos for my iPod Touch as it has great default profiles and its very quick as it uses all 4 cores of my CPU.
For the settings it depends on the video but I have been using the following settings for x264 MP4 video, these settings should work with any video converter.
16x9 video:
1000Kbps
192Kbps audio (for movies and music videos, 128 might be good enough for most)
resolution 800x450
It leaves the smallest of boarders top and bottom but it retains the corrent aspect ratio
4x3 video
800Kbps
192Kbps
reolution 640x480

that`s an overkill. 800 Kbps @23 fps, 96k audio is well enough. It plays fine on default video player. Smaller file size as well.

I tied 800Kbps and found it looked no better than the music videos I purchased from itunes which are smaller again and have a lower resolution.
I suppose the best thing to do is play about with bit rate for the video and go with what you are happy with, file size isnt a big issue for me when it comes to movies or TV shows as I tend to only have one or two on the SD card at a time.
As for audio please anything lower than 128kbps should be illegal

There's actualy a very nice thread on these forums discussing the settings for the HTC topaz and which programs to use, but since google turns up this thread as the first one I guess I'll add a little comment here as well.
Any converter should work to convert video to the right format, it doesn't matter which one u use, as long as your converter has the options to set the video bitrate, audio bitrate, aspect ratio, frames per sec and maybe some extra audio settings. I use format factory and It works great.
Mp4 format with AVC H264 videocoding is the way to go. how you turn the settings out is up to you and the space on your SD card (or lack of one).
I use the following settings to play HD video on my HTC Topaz:
-MP4 format
-AVC (H264) videocoding on 512 bitrate (you might go up to 768, but will lag longer videos which you encode from a HD source) and a 800x480 resolution.
-AAC audiocoding on 128 bitrate (indeed the minimum for people with sufficient hearing-capabilities, otherwise you might wanna go lower than that, but not advised as you can definitely hear the difference) and 44100 sample rate.
-Framerate of 25 (fixed, no real need changing this anyway, it's the best framerate out there, any higher will probably slow down your video on mobile devices)
-aspect ratio of 4:3 (you can pretty much set this one however you like, as long as you don't let it decide automaticaly. if you're not sure about your aspect ratio use this setting)
These settings work great on Topaz and are probable to work for other HTC models, as long as they have a maximum resolution of 800x480. One more thing is to notice that your HTC device (at least starting from Topaz (touch diamond 2) has the ability to playback HD content. You can test above settings with videos downloaded from the HD sample site from microsoft. point is the HD playback only works on the standard player coming with your device (windows mediaplayer) because the decoders are not freely given to other developers and therefore no other video playback program has them implemented in their mobile player.
Hope this helped.

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If your after a decent media player try nemoplayer (I cant post the link to the thread but the thread number is 598509)
I converted a video to [email protected], it stuttered a little with the default player, but played perfectly with nemoplayer.
As for conversion, I have found Xilisoft to be very good, I paid for it to convert videos for my iPod Touch as it has great default profiles and its very quick as it uses all 4 cores of my CPU.
For the settings it depends on the video but I have been using the following settings for x264 MP4 video, these settings should work with any video converter.
16x9 video:
1000Kbps
192Kbps audio (for movies and music videos, 128 might be good enough for most)
resolution 800x450
It leaves the smallest of boarders top and bottom but it retains the corrent aspect ratio
4x3 video
800Kbps
192Kbps
reolution 640x480
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I installed Nemoplayer, but it only displays the videos in my DCIM folder? I have tried to move my test video over to that folder too, but it still can't find it. I converted it to mp4 with format factory, at 320 x something so the size should be ok

I usually encode in .mp4 h.264 base profile, max 3 ref frames, 800x640 res max and no cabac or b frames. At constant rate factor of 24 image quality is great and file size impressively small.

Tested on many videos, only mencoder needed, can't get any simpler:
Put this as one line in convert2desire.bat:
mencoder %1 -o "%~n1.mp4" -of lavf -lavfopts format=mp4 -vf dsize=800:480:0,scale=0:0,expand=800:480:-1::::,harddup -sws 9 -ovc x264 -x264encopts crf=24:force_cfr:bframes=0:nocabac:no8x8dct:global_header -oac faac -faacopts br=128:mpeg=4bject=2:raw -af volnorm=1 -channels 2 -srate 44100 -delay 0.3
Then run "convert2desire.bat tobeconvertedvideo.avi"
The resulting file will be tobeconvertedvideo.mp4
Lower crf to have even better quality and larger file.
The -vf parameters will always output a 800x480 file and other screen ratios will be correctly scaled to fit inside 800x480.
Mencoder download:
sourceforge.net/projects/mplayer-win32/files/MPlayer%20and%20MEncoder/revision%2031139/MPlayer-rtm-svn-31139.7z/download
I must say the screen of the Desire is top notch quality!
It is ridiculous how crisp everything looks for such a small device.
Let me know if this script works for you.

Anyone tried doubletwist? It looks like itune, and if we sync video, it will convert it to the format that standard player in desire can play.

I agree on the audio delay in your script, the desire seems to delay video by a little.

Best Video format?

I want to convert some of my movies on the hard drive of my PC to a format I can play on my EVO.
I just tried converting Jennifers Body to 3GP at 512 kbps and 29.9 fps and it plays but the sound is really quite and it's a little jerky.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Any guides? Or can someone tell me the best settings for audio and video to play on EVO hardware?
Thanks. I'm looking for stuff like format, 3GP vs. MPEG4, resolution, bit rate, fps, kpbs, and audio format as well.
Anyone had some good looking doing this?
Steve.

Container: MP4
Video: h264 baseline profile, 800x480 max, between 500Kpbs and 2Mbps depending on source (anime vs. movie) and amount of action/movement. Keep fps same as original. I usually set my x264 to encode with quantizer set to 20, fast and does the job.
Audio: AAC. Anyhing above 128Kbps wil be good enough.
I use MeGUI for my conversions but u can try Handbrake too.

All about Videos(Conversion softwares, formats,Video Players)

Hi guys I am starting this thread because i didn't find much information regarding:
1)Video conversion softwares.
2)Best video formats for obtaining least size with highest possbile quality
3)Converting full HD videos to be able to play on defy with the best quality
4)Best players available for defy to play good quality videos smoothly.
I have started experimenting on this..
I am using total video converter for conversion and Moboplayer for playing.
Keeping Resolution 854x480 and Video bit rate 2500Kbps.
I get a file of size 55Mb .avi(H.264) after conversion of a 113Mb .mov(1080p) file.
I want you people to tell me your methods and softwares for doing this.
I hope this thread will help all people having trouble in playing HD videos on their Defy.
I will keep updating whenever I find something new and useful info.
Thank You.

For the Defy, my favorite video conversion software is Handbrake.
It's free and it's the best at letting me crop 4:3 format videos the way I want easilly.
- Choose the 'iPphone Legacy' format
- Uncheck 'large file size' and 'Iphone 5G support'
- Select your file name/location and resolution [make sure that keep ratio is enable];
- Choose auto or set your custom cropping
- Let it do the re-encoding; it is very fast: it keeps both my cpu cores at 100%
The Defy will basically play anything smaller or equal to its native screen resolution but most of the time, I find that 640x360 looks just fine.

What is the best container for 720p movies? I tried .mkv but Software decoding is too slow...Video is chopy but sound is good.
I made my own HD video with Defy camera (auto packed it as .3gp), and when played it was also chopy and even slower than .mkv :S

mp4 is native

Ok, that is cool...I have MS2Ginger1.0 with 720p video shootin, but I can't change format when shootin a video...It saves it like .3gp :S
That just sucks then