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Looks nice. But kinda odd (and not sure I like it) to have a speaker slide out like that.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/exclusive-htcs-windows-phone-7-equipped-t8788-breaks-cover-for/
Yep looks good. Hope all the new HTC Codename phones fall under similar looks/features.
A comment in the engadget forum has 1 guy say he personally knows the phone slides both ways. Hmm.
If it does I Just hope its a nice mechanical/spring slide action that keeps the phone solid when your not sliding it around.
Overall though it would be a bit bigger version of my TP2 which I love.
I like the front facing speaker. Lately I've been playing more Scumm games (Broken Sword 2 atm) on my phone, and sometimes when there's alot of ambient noise, I have to flip my phone around to really hear what's being said without listening intently or put my headphones on. So this would actually be good for gaming, if it slid out the rest of the way to show a game pad I'll be breaking contract .
I'm not too excited about the slide-out speaker feature. As long as a phone has a 3.5mm jack and a decently loud speaker phone, I'm happy. I wouldn't want to go too crazy over builtin speakers.
say hate to state the obvious but this is implementation of the new htc slider mechanism htc patented recently
not bad
I say slide it out the other way to reveal a full qwerty and this thing would be a beast. But sadly it's just a speaker.
This phone DOES NOT slide both ways... for a fact. It slides only that way (as shown in the picture) and only that far... It also has a kickstand that comes out so that when you stand the phone up the speaker is at the top.
All metal (black metal) very heavy and solid feeling... Also, screen size looked to be about 4-4.1"
Saw it/played with it on Sunday night
lets hope for all hd2 owners that this phone has the same hardware specs as the hd2 (easier to port wp7 on hd2 )
and let us all non hd2 owners hope it has a dual core and loads of ram/rom usb3 ,64GB build in ssd .
zanef7 said:
This phone DOES NOT slide both ways... for a fact. It slides only that way (as shown in the picture) and only that far... It also has a kickstand that comes out so that when you stand the phone up the speaker is at the top.
All metal (black metal) very heavy and solid feeling... Also, screen size looked to be about 4-4.1"
Saw it/played with it on Sunday night
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so a media centric phone? how is the slider mechanism and wp7 for that matter. Are these builds still naked without att/htc proprietary software I'm quite curious
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so a media centric phone? how is the slider mechanism and wp7 for that matter. Are these builds still naked without att/htc proprietary software I'm quite curious
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That's one thing that's great. The manufacturer and carrier aren't allowed to bog the phones down with crap.
Bengal34 said:
That's one thing that's great. The manufacturer and carrier aren't allowed to bog the phones down with crap.
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has MS stated that?
theomni said:
has MS stated that?
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I believe MS mandated that only 6 custom vendor apps can be sent out with the phone, and anything they put on has to be uninstallable.
gom99 said:
I believe MS mandated that only 6 custom vendor apps can be sent out with the phone, and anything they put on has to be uninstallable.
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Finally...
Now I wish MS would do things to stop being as annoying too.
Btw, I looked over the internet. I couldn't find it. Would you happen to have the link or an official statement from MS stating that?
Meh, to hell with extra bulk from speaker I don't use for anything but ringing.
Never thought I'd say this, but my next phone will most probably not be from HTC. This is such a useless gimmick.
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Finally...
Now I wish MS would do things to stop being as annoying too.
Btw, I looked over the internet. I couldn't find it. Would you happen to have the link or an official statement from MS stating that?
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I don't have the direct link but it was originally posted by Da_G on this forum.
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vangrieg said:
Meh, to hell with extra bulk from speaker I don't use for anything but ringing.
Never thought I'd say this, but my next phone will most probably not be from HTC. This is such a useless gimmick.
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I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
They can't do anything to the system, so expect to see a lot of these gimmicks.
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I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
They can't do anything to the system, so expect to see a lot of these gimmicks.
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They can add apps/hubs.
I know many will disagree with this but we have to go off the basis that the built-in functions of WP7 are much better than anything an OEM could do. We shouldn't want/allow them to change it just for the sake of differentiation. It's my impression (not having used any of them for any length of time) that this is true on Android for all with the possible exception of HTC Sense; even then many would say the stock Android UI is just fine. HTC Sense, espeically for WinMo, is horribly written. I think it's wise for us to let the software company do the software and the hardware company do the hardware.
So even though they can't modify for the sake of modifying, there's a good bit of opportunity for them to add on. HTC will be doing some sort of 'Sense' for WP7 which will (just guessing) probably be in the form of a hub with several apps such as weather, stocks, footprints, etc. Carriers will have branding opportunities as well (Telstra showed off theirs recently).
But this all still ignoring the question of do users really care? I have never once seen the home screen addons become a deciding factor in what phone a user purchases (both in 'real life' and on a non-phone forum where phones often come up that I'm on). It's always just:
1. carrier
2. hardware features (size, keyboard, screen being the main ones)
3. Price
It really seems like wasted money on the part of the OEMs.
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How about making great devices without this niche teenager crap?
for a pop out speaker, I would have high expectations for the sound on that. It better be very impressive and with plenty of bass.....
RustyGrom said:
Looks nice. But kinda odd (and not sure I like it) to have a speaker slide out like that.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/exclusive-htcs-windows-phone-7-equipped-t8788-breaks-cover-for/
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well to tell you the truth, this isn't the first time that we are seeing the device with speaker slideout. For instance, Samsung mp3 players had this. they were k5 and s5. It wasn't a really hit for somereason but yea on the phone, this is the first time ever. But i do like the formfactor but i am not sure about sliding speaker. I dont listen to musics with my phone, so it won't be necessary for me. Also i would like to see how the battery performs when the slide is out to the side. hmmm... it should be great for speaker call and gps sysem!
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just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver
Yep, it's just you.
I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en
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I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en
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*drools* i can't wait for this to be released
I think windows mobile is gonna be around for a while yet until something else more stable & reliable comes along. Going by the phone in link above, WM is here to stay for quite some time!!
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just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver
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You can jailbreak an iphone and install a ton of useful apps today already...
I'm waiting for the next iphone with 3G and hopefully built in GPS.
Blonde jailbait?
The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
C Brown said:
The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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ROFL, hey Charlie, the "sickest" device?
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*drools* i can't wait for this to be released
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Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?
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The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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See its specification, if the price is as rumors around 700$ the Xperia X1 will be a killer of all other WM devices. I wonder why HTC doesn´t have any revolution model up coming. I prefer the high resolution display and small smart design.
Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html
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Blonde jailbait?
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Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?
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$399----wow, that is a low estimate. if the tytn i is still going for 400 i think the the x1 will be around 800-1000 when it first comes out.
jamal1782 said:
Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html
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Hmmm an iphone with WM on it, what a bad combination!!!! Oh and worst of all no keyboard, no use whatsoever as a business device... Nice toy if you like poking your screen with a stylus or smearing it with fingerprints...
I believe the expected release date for the xperia 1 is early 2009
I phoned the Sony Shop in the UK they said mid year.
excellent, I'm due a new phone bout then!
Windows mobile will die if microsoft doesn't quit being lazy
Windows mobile will die. Have you guys ever really thought about this operating system we're running on our hand helds. back inthe day you had desktops pushing 166mhz and running full installs of windows 95 and in some cases I've even seen 98 on that processor. And those system ran applicatiosn and did so with not much problems.
in 2008 many years in the future we have our handsets pushing 400mhz processors (hermes) and yet it lags when you chcange screen orientation. It lags to answer a phone call if your in landscape orientation.
That is utter rubbish. Microsoft got windows mobile code wrong the firstst ime it was bloated. The reason why it'll never improve exponentially is because microsoft does not like to do things over they will forever build up ontop of a bloated operating system.
We see the same thing happening in the desktop counteer part of their operating system. If android can drop a proper user interface to make users comfortable with using the device Then i see no reason why it wouldn't superceed windows mobile
hardware vendors would be more than happy if this was the case as licensing for windows mobile cost an arm and a leg.
but really think about it
166mhz ran a whole computers operating system with various application 400mhz can barely run the windows mobile operating system properly.
Thats just disgusting.
WM is already changing due to other operators including Apple, and they need to as people expect reliable, functional operating systems.
Yes I agree, microsoft are lazy, but with the introduction of android, apple etc, I think (hope) they are actually starting to sit up and take action.
If they come back with another unreliable WM then, people will start to look elsewhere and microsoft will be in trouble. Lets just hope they take note and sort it out now
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So I'm wondering what the concensus is. Are we going to see this or not?
The official word is obviously that there will be no upgrade for the HD2, but people seem to have hope in the community here. I'm not much of a dev/hacker to know for sure, so I'm wondering what you guys think...
The issues I'm hearing are:
Hardware buttons
GPU
On-board storage
Upscalling
The hardware buttons are obviously a non-issue. And from what MS is saying, despite not being able to swap out memory cards, SD storage can be used by OEMs to supplement on-board storage. But I dont know about the GPU and upscaling. Are these built in to the HD2 already? Is the upscaling a hardware or software issue? Are these things a deal breaker??
This would be most excellent if so,I just picked up a HD2 last night and even though I am back to edge speed ( which is not a real issue for me,lots of wifi around.) I LOVE THIS PHONE !!!
Man this thing is making me giggle like a school girl.....
I don't see anyone NOT putting it on there, especially when it hits America (If it hasn't already that is)
HOWEVER, i highly doubt you will want to use it. THey are going the iphone route. NO more File explorer and open source and multi tasking. All the things that made WinMO popular are apparently disappearing.
Disappoints me really. I jumped on the Android train. My first PDA was a dell X50
Bababooey said:
This would be most excellent if so,I just picked up a HD2 last night and even though I am back to edge speed ( which is not a real issue for me,lots of wifi around.) I LOVE THIS PHONE !!!
Man this thing is making me giggle like a school girl.....
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just wondering, why didn't you wait till the 24th to get the one from T-Mobile so you'd have 3g?
pgiuoco said:
just wondering, why didn't you wait till the 24th to get the one from T-Mobile so you'd have 3g?
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that's what im doing, 4 more days! cannot wait to get my hands on this beast!
All because of $$ !!
M$ want more developer to developes more app and game for WP7S, in order to do that, u need to convince developer that they can make $$ for the app. Currently it is to easy to get craXXk app for WinMo.
M$ learnt the good idea for iPhone by locked down the system so u can only purchase from App Store. By doing these, M$ will stand good chances to complete will iPhone (Gen 4) in the future.
My only wish is : Hopefully M$ don't be hash on XDA, cos i believe XDA will make something interesting from WP7S for HD2 ... i believe.
Althought I'm glad others are showing interest, I was hoping to make this a technical discussion around the facts of whether it can or cannot happen. And maybe at this point the answer is "we dont know." But hopefully we'll get more answers in time...
I think the question is not whether or not the HD2 will receive the upgrade to 7. Officially or unofficially, I think its just a matter of time. May not be as soon as youd like, but I't will get there. Its more a question of how relevant the HD2 will be be the time win7 is made available to it. Also, will there be able to be some kind of dual boot option available. The way 7 is shaping up, I'm not too enthused about only having 7. I would use 7 for gaming, social use, and winMo 6.5 when I'm looking to get my hands dirty.
Is it a Tomtom icon we can see? is the old version or is tomtom already developpe a new one in Sylverlight?
AFAIK that image is simply a skin over the top of WM6.5 rather than WM7s, so it is a current tomtom app
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AFAIK that image is simply a skin over the top of WM6.5 rather than WM7s, so it is a current tomtom app
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No, that image was published on winmo.nl during the Barcelona unveiling of WP7, long before any WP7 skins were created.
Right now it looks like it was either fake (just an HD2 showing a WP7 picture on its screen) or an early development version of the OS, not destined to ever be released on the HD2.
Winmo.nl claimed the TomTom app worked fine on WP7, possibly because 'tomtom was already preparing their software for WP7'.
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M$ learnt the good idea for iPhone by locked down the system so u can only purchase from App Store. By doing these, M$ will stand good chances to complete will iPhone (Gen 4) in the future.
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It'll probably be iPhone 5g before WP7 will be any threat. iPhone 4g is probably coming out in June/July, a few months before WP7 is even out.
Though the HD2 is a fantastic device and loved by anyone (incl myself) who lays their hands on it, you can't help but feel somewhat bitter that a device of such magnitude is just going to be ANOTHER HTC phone almost solely kept alive by xda-developers.
You can see MS's reasoning. You can love the sheer beauty of the HD2. But Jesus - think of the potential going to waste and how it comes across to consumers who hear 'hey, your device is outdated already'. Consumers that haven't even got the device available in their country yet.
One word - Flash. THAT'S reason enough to be at least a little pissed off as an HD2 user.
A joke, it is - but in XDA I trust.
unfortunately, HD2 doen't support WM 7, WM7 only support 3 solid buttons, no more, no less....
HD2 has 5 solid buttons, so...give up to upgrade to WM 7
If the HD2 has a WP7 test build running on it somewhere at HTC and it gets leaked the HD2 should easily get an unofficial upgrade but if that doesn't happen it won't be easy.
bestfan said:
unfortunately, HD2 doen't support WM 7, WM7 only support 3 solid buttons, no more, no less....
HD2 has 5 solid buttons, so...give up to upgrade to WM 7
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You're clearly new to this part of town...
camera hardware button is also a requirement...
an interesting key i found on my T-Mobile HD2 HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\WM7KeybdLayout.
Very strange indeed
I'm pretty sure hardware keys would be irrellivant to getting this on the phone.
My understanding of the key requirements are based upon the chassis version been used with WP7. I think these are basically stipulated purely for the user experience Microsoft are trying to give and not software limitations.
I don't know if it's been asked, but what kind of Windows Live intergration will we see. Will it be the half-ass stuff we see now, or will we FINALLY see calendar syncing.
I guess I should have just asked if we'll see windows Live calendar in Windows Phone 7.
I was about to ask the same thing. I heard in one of the videos that multiple calendars would be supported (Ie: work, personnal etc...) Now I'm digging in the emulator to see if WL Cal is finally supported, so I can ditch gmail alltogether.
EDIT: I just went through the emulator, and since we can't add email accounts, I can't deny nor confirm the existence of WL Cal sync.
Allthough I SWEAR I heard Joe Belfiore saying that WLCal is supported...
it better be. It's really no excuse for it not being in there all this time to be honest.
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I don't know if it's been asked, but what kind of Windows Live intergration will we see. Will it be the half-ass stuff we see now, or will we FINALLY see calendar syncing.
I guess I should have just asked if we'll see windows Live calendar in Windows Phone 7.
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you will probably see an app developed by MS for iphone before that.
How I hate MS for that. The new bing website looks so good on an iphone..
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and so crappy on my HTC Pure
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How I hate MS for that. The new bing website looks so good on an iphone..
and so crappy on my HTC Pure
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That's not the website, it's the Bing app on the iPhone.
But yes, it DOES look better than the Bing app on WM
I do realize that....but you know what I mean...that app is not available for WM6+
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I do realize that....but you know what I mean...that app is not available for WM6+
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It is! That screenshot is from the Bing app for WM.
Or did I misunderstand something?
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Not available on m.bing.com/download
They are handing out the utterly finger unresponsive app shown below
Seriously? They're still not distributing the new one? OMG.
But even the new one is worse than the one for the iPhone.
That's how you know their mobile division is screwed.
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Seriously? They're still not distributing the new one? OMG.
But even the new one is worse than the one for the iPhone.
That's how you know their mobile division is screwed.
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I had the new one but went back to the uglier old one. The new one would not save a found address to contacts. And the older one is a little more finger friendly. The newer one just looks better...style but not enough substance.
It's a shame the iPhone one look's so much better, but I think it has something to do with the SDK. iPhone's SDK probably lends itself to great looking apps with minimal effort by the developer as opposed to WM.
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That's not the website, it's the Bing app on the iPhone.
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They do have a Bing mobile website for the iPhone (and I think maybe certain other devices) that makes m.bing.com look like a piece of crap. They also have the good iPhone app, as you pointed out. On WM I just stuck with the old Live Search App because it has Movies and Gas Prices and such.
Back on topic, Windows Live is fully integrated, including the Calendar.
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It's a shame the iPhone one look's so much better, but I think it has something to do with the SDK. iPhone's SDK probably lends itself to great looking apps with minimal effort by the developer as opposed to WM.
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You are right. But then, why did they have to dump the whole OS, if a new SDK would have been the solution to most of theri problems?
Imagine WM6.5 with a better UI and a good SDK. Problems solved. They could have released that a year ago and it would have been perfectly competitive to the iPhone.
Instead, they did nothing for more than one and a half years, cause they could not figure out what to do (though everyone here knew it). In the end, there was no other option left than dump the whole OS and start a new one, without all the things we loved about WM. Sad.
They screwed up completely and they still don't know what to do. The fights within the company still aren't over (though the iPhone enviers within MS won the first round). This is inexcusable.
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You are right. But then, why did they have to dump the whole OS, if a new SDK would have been the solution to most of theri problems?
Imagine WM6.5 with a better UI and a good SDK. Problems solved. They could have released that a year ago and it would have been perfectly competitive to the iPhone.
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You're making huge assumptions here. How do you know that's the only problem with WM.
Instead, they did nothing for more than one and a half years, cause they could not figure out what to do (though everyone here knew it). In the end, there was no other option left than dump the whole OS and start a new one, without all the things we loved about WM. Sad.
They screwed up completely and they still don't know what to do. The fights within the company still aren't over (though the iPhone enviers within MS won the first round). This is inexcusable.
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Again, you're being very presumptuous. Do have inside information or something?
I do have a bit of information, yes. But most of it is widely known, anyway.
How do I know that the ugly, non-fingerfriendly UI and the lousy SDK were Windows Mobile's main problems? Just a bit of common sense.
After all, what were the things that made the iPhone successful? It's easy to use and it has apps, apps, apps.
It certainly weren't the lousy camera or the lack of features or the annoying restrictions.
I think it'll be tightly integrated since you'll be able to see peoples updates through the windows live profiles as well.
I hope it has good integration so I can finally have one consitent contact list. Some are an outlook, some are on messenger. Having doubles is a pain in the beginning and take a good time to clean it up. Now they're both on my phone but still half/half on my software.
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...After all, what were the things that made the iPhone successful? It's easy to use and it has apps, apps, apps.
It certainly weren't the lousy camera or the lack of features or the annoying restrictions.
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iPhone was successful long before it had apps. It was a great product despite it's perceived flaws. WP7 should follow suit.
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iPhone was successful long before it had apps. It was a great product despite it's perceived flaws. WP7 should follow suit.
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And what made it successful before it had apps?
It certainly weren't the lousy camera or the lack of features or the annoying restrictions.
It was the UI. Everyone could use that thing, it was even easier to use than most people's dumbphones, thus they had no problems switching to the iPhone and of course, they liked it, cause it could do much more than the dumbphones they had before. They didn't know that Windows Mobile existed and had much more features and they didn't care, cause Windows Mobile was not as easy to use as a dumbphone.
Before the iPhone had apps, a good UI would have been enough for Windows Mobile. When the iPhone got an SDK, a good SDK would have saved Windows Mobile (plus maybe an appstore).
It's that easy, but Microsoft screwed it all up.
Looks like Nokia's first Windows Phone has been leaked by the CEO no less. It looks a lot like the recently announced N9, but no word on what the internal specs are. It will have to blow the current generation of phones out of the water for me to give up the Super AMOLED screen on my Focus.
i didn't see any windows buttons. In the video he didn't actually turn it on.
Who knows
Full video can be found here:
http://www.technet.hu/telefon/20110624/exkluziv_video_elop_bemutatja_az_elso_windowsos_nokiat/
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i didn't see any windows buttons. In the video he didn't actually turn it on.
Who knows
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yeah the lack of front 3 buttons was what I was wondering about as well.
Hmm can't get the full video to load, but it's about time we get a peak of a Nokia WP7 phone. Can't wait!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1wC0pS_No
Here you go, enjoy
So does anyone know if this would work on Sprint if it had the same quadband CDMA radios as the meego version? Because I would buy this immediately, if that were the case.
PS - In the long version he turns it on, and another guy comes out and demoes it.
Thanks for the links.
Looking at this unreleased phone, and looking at the already released HTC sensation 4g. All I can say is, Microsoft is in deep ****.
Deep, deep, deep ****. SMFH.
Microsoft is in a very poor situation with regard to WP7, trying to push a new OS to a market which isn't exactly dying for one, needing hundreds of phones and friendly distribution, but the video doesn't make it any worse.
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Why were they still recording when he asked everyone to switch off their camera?
Should be more coming as well.
but the here's my question....will it have a FF camera? that's the only thing I want in my next windows phone and well mango too
That's.... kinda ugly at first glance.
I don't particularly enjoy the Nx designs. Sad to see them sticking with it for wp7.
ALTHOUGH I do like the boxiness aspect. I think rounded edges are old school, boxiness is a good thing design-wise.
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I think rounded edges are old school, boxiness is a good thing design-wise.
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Or, you could say that rounded phones are a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Pulling a square-edged, boxy phone out of my pocket can be a real pain, but a phone that has nice rounded corners is not a problem at all.
And personally, boxy = ugly to me.
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Or, you could say that rounded phones are a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Pulling a square-edged, boxy phone out of my pocket can be a real pain, but a phone that has nice rounded corners is not a problem at all.
And personally, boxy = ugly to me.
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Hmm never thought of it that way. Would never have thought of that as I've never owned one without rounded edges.
sumdumdude said:
Looks like Nokia's first Windows Phone has been leaked by the CEO no less. It looks a lot like the recently announced N9, but no word on what the internal specs are. It will have to blow the current generation of phones out of the water for me to give up the Super AMOLED screen on my Focus.
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I like it. I like the N9 and think this model would make a good WP7 device.
vetvito said:
Thanks for the links.
Looking at this unreleased phone, and looking at the already released HTC sensation 4g. All I can say is, Microsoft is in deep ****.
Deep, deep, deep ****. SMFH.
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Yeah, the Sensation is aptly named. I would love to have one. But I can't see anything wrong with this WP7 Nokia device. Imagine it in some other colors.
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Those on screen buttons are nasty looking, I can see myself now always accidentally hitting them trying to play a game or something. plz bring something else Nokia, because that is not what I want at all
havox22 said:
Those on screen buttons are nasty looking, I can see myself now always accidentally hitting them trying to play a game or something. plz bring something else Nokia, because that is not what I want at all
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Since they are on-screen buttons, they can be minimized or disappear altogether during a game or open app. This would completely eliminate the accidental press of these buttons.
First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug
1. There might be some application for this. Possibly. I'm not entirely sure. Android however, has complete flick scrolling. All you have to do is give it sufficient momentum, and you can fly to the top or bottom no problem. But I guess that isn't a solution really.
2 & 3. There isn't really an answer for this yet. It's bothering a lot of people. Once we get AOSP, we will hopefully get a port of ParanoidAndroid. Which will fix your issue. You can always turn down the LCD density in the build prop. But doing so will break most applications. You should be safe with setting it to 240.
4. The variety of Android phones is immense. And as such, people moving from an older model and installing the applications they are familiar with will notice an increase in performance from that application. People aren't looking at the quality of the application, but at how it affects them and their experience with it. Which is the only explanation for why Advanced Task Killer is still popular. Ignorance.
5. That happens. Some you won't find something that lives up to the iOS equivalent. Yet I've found applications that are on Android that are incredible and don't have a good iOS equivalent. Namely, PicsArt.
I don't like that the headphone jack is on the top.
And I really liked the backing and sides on the Galaxy Nexus, which I switched from to this phone. Really plasticky, not that I'm complaining. I just really enjoyed the feel of the Galaxy Nexus
I'm glad you like the phone. Be wary though, there are plenty of people on this site with an extreme hate for Apple and it's products. Though this particular forum is really well behaved, and I've only met nice people thus far. I haven't seen people attack each other for their beliefs or past yet. Knock on wood. Haha hope that helps, even though I only offered one solution to your issues.
DougNC said:
First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug
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Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Try a different launcher like Nova or Holo. This will at least fix your issue with not being able to resize widgets, and will also give you a lot more homescreen real estate.
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Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Neither the iPhone 5 nor the iPad Mini measured up to what I was reading about in the Android world. And there was no turning back once I saw the specs and video reviews of the SGN2!
I may be late to the party but I've got my dancing shoes on now!
Doug
Yeah pressing the top is one of the most wanted features for me, at least when you flicker you finger faster then normal it goes up quicker or down so the helps in the browser. About the screen real state is really annoying to have only 4 apps down and 4 to the side I rooted my device mostly to help someone and put a mod for the screen, is better now
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The buttons being big is annoying to me too but it is what it is, I don't play guitar so idk about the rest, I tried the new iphone 5 love the design but too small, and too limited so I stay with Android this time around and love it, welcome to the group be aware that we have a lot annoying fan boys around :/
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You should try flashing roms, that's where the fun begins.
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