I'm new 2 the rooting and the Android itself.. I got the 2.2 on my EVO like most ppl have via update, I'm kinda skeptical of rooting it still.. I guess my question is, is it worth rooting it and what changes on the device itself?
Any information would and will be extremely appreciated..
Thanx in advance...
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Good day to you.
First off. welcome. second, as its your FIRST post I hope you wont get flamed too hard because there are many many threads that cover the pros/cons of rooting.
I suggest next time you have a question, take a minute to use the search function (and post in the right forum! questions go in Q&A).
A few quick pros of rooting.
Free wireless tether (sharing your phones internet connection with a laptop or other wifi enabled device)
The ability to flash custom ROMs, these are the operating systems of the phone, they're all built off of (for the most part) stock htc/sprint images, but there are plenty and many options, find one that suits your needs and try it out.
Custom kernels, they are the set of drivers and the "brain" of your phone, want it overclocked? get a custom kernel, want it undervolted (Save battery) get a custom kernel. many options to choose from
Custom Boot screens.
Root only applications, titanium backup (backs up stuff, i dont use it so i cant elaborate), shootme (screenshot program) and others im sure.
Hope this clears up some stuff, welcome, use the search (really im just trying to help ya here) and have fun!
Round of applause for nenn. While I agree with your first few sentences, there aren't many "nice guys" on this site and especially on the Evo boards. People tend to forget that this phone is relatively new and has attracted many new people to the world of Android (like myself) who know nothing about anything.
OP: A few things you can do with root that nenn did not mention:
1) You can read/write from your SD card.
2) You can remove all the garbage that your phone came loaded with from Sprint and HTC (like Sprint Nascar and Peep).
3) With Titanium back-up, it allows you to transfer all user apps to the SD card keeping your phones internal memory clean, you can back up and restore all apps and system data, and you can use it to uninstall apps you don't want as mentioned in point #2.
4) Custom kernels also remove the 30 fps cap on our phones (I get 52 fps average with my set up).
5) You can use other root-only programs like ROM Manager which lets you flash files onto your phone easily via a custom recovery. Also, you can back up several ROM's and switch from one to the other, or go back to a previous working ROM if you flash something on your phone that doesn't sit well with it.
If everything that we have mentioned means nothing to you, then just enjoy your phone as it is. It is a great device and you can get plenty of use out if without rooting it.
*bow* thanks for the kind words rudegraw, its not a day from hell at work so im in a chipper mood for the most part, yesterday, i woulda ripped this yougin to shreads so i posted very little, lol.
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1) You can read/write from your SD card.
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eh? what do you mean? thats worded very oddly.
Thanx to the both of ya.. I do luv the phone the way it is and specially since yesterday I turned on the 4G and it actually came on, you can pretty much assume my excitement lol.. But I'll read up on the pros/cons of rooting before I make any decision as to root my Evo..
Thanx again..
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nenn said:
*bow* thanks for the kind words rudegraw, its not a day from hell at work so im in a chipper mood for the most part, yesterday, i woulda ripped this yougin to shreads so i posted very little, lol.
eh? what do you mean? thats worded very oddly.
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I'd rather not get into details about this on the thread. I worded it this way on purpose. PM me and I'd be more than happy to explain what I meant.
Rooting 2.2
I am rooting for the first time and I'm stuck now. I am in the section where you enter the commands into the cmd command box.
I just entered the ./rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
and it says that it not found but when I entered it earlier it worke just fine, can anyone help me plz
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Round of applause for nenn. While I agree with your first few sentences, there aren't many "nice guys" on this site and especially on the Evo boards. People tend to forget that this phone is relatively new and has attracted many new people to the world of Android (like myself) who know nothing about anything.
OP: A few things you can do with root that nenn did not mention:
1) You can read/write from your SD card.
2) You can remove all the garbage that your phone came loaded with from Sprint and HTC (like Sprint Nascar and Peep).
3) With Titanium back-up, it allows you to transfer all user apps to the SD card keeping your phones internal memory clean, you can back up and restore all apps and system data, and you can use it to uninstall apps you don't want as mentioned in point #2.
4) Custom kernels also remove the 30 fps cap on our phones (I get 52 fps average with my set up).
5) You can use other root-only programs like ROM Manager which lets you flash files onto your phone easily via a custom recovery. Also, you can back up several ROM's and switch from one to the other, or go back to a previous working ROM if you flash something on your phone that doesn't sit well with it.
If everything that we have mentioned means nothing to you, then just enjoy your phone as it is. It is a great device and you can get plenty of use out if without rooting it.
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Recording at 720p, is it any better with 52 fps?
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Noob alert, I'm new here, and I'm new to smart phones, I had the HTC Touch Diamond but it was defective to the point where the only thing I could do on it was browse the web and make phone calls...
I'm not that advanced when it comes to this phone since I just picked it up 2 days ago...
Question 1
I've searched around and saw there was ways to put apps on the SD card, and I'm sure just like a computer you can't run the apps off the SD card (unless you can?)
Well my issue with that is I've tried Astro but I'm dumb and can't figure it out.
Question 2
What's the reason and advantages of "rooting" my phone?
Question 3
Battery life... Battery goes dead in the matter of hours, I took it off the charger and within 10-20 minutes it was down to 89% battery life.
I've installed an app killer to save on processing, and save battery.
Set it to CDMA
Krimlin said:
Noob alert, I'm new here, and I'm new to smart phones, I had the HTC Touch Diamond but it was defective to the point where the only thing I could do on it was browse the web and make phone calls...
I'm not that advanced when it comes to this phone since I just picked it up 2 days ago...
Question 1
I've searched around and saw there was ways to put apps on the SD card, and I'm sure just like a computer you can't run the apps off the SD card (unless you can?)
Well my issue with that is I've tried Astro but I'm dumb and can't figure it out.
Question 2
What's the reason and advantages of "rooting" my phone?
Question 3
Battery life... Battery goes dead in the matter of hours, I took it off the charger and within 10-20 minutes it was down to 89% battery life.
I've installed an app killer to save on processing, and save battery.
Set it to CDMA
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Answer 1: as far as i know the only rom using apps 2 sd at the moment is Flipz, ive tried one or two others, but they werent using it and im not sure if you can just add it on top. So you CAN install apps and have them run off the SD card.
Answer 2: Reason, because you can. Advantage, many! There are a lot of GREAT developers on this forum who strive to make this phone what it should have been out of the box. Problems like battery issues, software glitches, addons, features, they do it all.
example:
Free wireless tether that sprint wants to charge you an additional 30 a month for. (its a big draw)
oh yeah and custom roms.
Answer 3: there are MANY threads on battery saving tips and the custom roms that are adding their own battery saving features.
there are a lot of threads that cover your questions, so just look around and READ EVERYTHING.
good luck.
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Question 2
What's the reason and advantages of "rooting" my phone?
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I am only three weeks into this phone, but this is what I gather....rooting your phone allows you to install apps that are not in the market. Some of these apps help you make your phone run better.
- Controlling the CPU - this is an option on an app (forget the name) where you can set the CPU speeds for when your screen is off or many other situations. the responses to that app seem to increase battery life hugely. this is my leading reason for why I 'might' root.
- Cleaning up bloatware - i HATE HATE HATE bloatware and had it off my winmo phone in about three weeks it took to learn how to flash. now i need to learn how to root so i can get rid of the dumb sprint tm'd stuff
- Adding better bits to your OS - (i think this is root and not nand) but you can find better bits for your phone, like a different keyboard or better radio or things like that would work for you better than stock. this way you can do the little tweaks you want.
Lastly you can put new ROMs on your phone. Lots of em already for this phone. So far the Evo seems to have camera issues on the roms...not sure yet which roms have it figured and which are still working on it. But you can try out different roms and see if you like em.
(Hopefully if I got any of that wrong...the experienced ones will correct...but that is what this noob has gathered so far.)
sablesurfer said:
rooting your phone allows you to install apps that are not in the market. Some of these apps help you make your phone run better.
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This is not true. You don't have to have your phone rooted to install apps that are not in the market. By default, this option is disabled. To get apps into your Android phone you just have to go into the settings and enable the ability to install apps not in the market. Simple and already in original ROMs.
Now, there are some apps that take advantage of ROOT and have some special feature, but you can still install them on your phone if you do not have ROOT, but you will not be able to use the app's special feature.
As with all apps, some make your phone run better and some make it worse. Caveat emptor.
So again I'm new to this, where do I go to get these cool apps and such, and anyone have any tips and tricks for rooting, some of this stuff is above my head.
I'm sorry guys, I'm a moderator for a car forum so I understand having a noob show up asking alot of dumb questions that should be common knowledge in your circles LOL.
lol,
There is a program called simpleroot over in the dev forum that makes rooting a snap, and I think there are even some video tutorials
...And almost all the apps you would want are on the market
figure out what version you have, menu->settings->about phone->software information->build number
and then go to the read about rooting that version in the developer section
Ok so I read through the rooting instructions made by toast, seems easy enough.
But I also saw that it wipes your phone, meaning?
Am I going to have to re enter all my contacts, download all my apps again, and change all my setting back to the way I like it?
Also after rooting my phone, I won't have to like re activate it to make calls right, and after rooting it when I turn the phone on again for use what will I find? Is it going to look like it did when I first pulled it out of the box?
There's alot of things I don't understand about rooting and if someone would point me in the right direction that would be awesome, I've tried looking but keep coming across discussion threads, and instructions, no real explaination of what it does to my phone and what I can use it for.
Yes it will wipe everything pretty much. You should sync your contacts with google though so you dont have to worry about reloading those. After you are rooted you can use one of those 'root apps' called Titanium Backup and that will let you backup and restore everything.
You will not need to reactivate your phone. After you flash it will basically look like it did when it first came out of the box. Until you flash a custom rom, then some things may be a bit different (maybe custom themes, removed apk's, things like that.
Awesome, thanks for the info. I appreciate the hospitality guys!
Rooting and the OTA
nenn said:
figure out what version you have, menu->settings->about phone->software information->build number
and then go to the read about rooting that version in the developer section
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I swapped my 1st EVO in a panic after running the 1st June 29 update. I now have a 0003 with .6 and would like to jump into the world of root. My qusetion is at this point should I do the OTA and then root or just root with the 1st toast method 1 and 2?
Also my laptop set up for dual boot so I can use either Ubuntu or win7. One over the other for diving in?
Thanks for any help.
Dano3 said:
I swapped my 1st EVO in a panic after running the 1st June 29 update. I now have a 0003 with .6 and would like to jump into the world of root. My qusetion is at this point should I do the OTA and then root or just root with the 1st toast method 1 and 2?
Also my laptop set up for dual boot so I can use either Ubuntu or win7. One over the other for diving in?
Thanks for any help.
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Try to do your root as close to the lowest version you have, but it seems that people have gotten root even after the latest OTA update.
I don't think it matters in what OS you want to work in to root or mod your phone, but it tends to be a bit easier under Ubuntu. It was a pain in the ass to get the EVO recognized under Windows. The easy 1 click root is made to work under windows. I find that creating a kitchen (aka setup to make custom ROMs with apps/features added or removed) is easier in Linux. And doing development and building the OS from source is waaay easier under Ubuntu. I'm doing development, so it's a lot easier under Ubuntu.
Summary, somethings are easier in Windows and others easier in Ubuntu.
Check out this thread for a helpful battery tip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721156
Make sure you go into settings > wireless networks > mobile data settings and turn off always on mobile data.
This one of the most popular roms that focuses on battery saving:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700649
MAKE SURE YOU SEARCH THE THREAD BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS B/C SOMEONE WILL EAT YOUR FACE FOR ASKING A QUESTION THATS BEEN ASKED A MILLION TIMES
Antebios said:
This is not true. You don't have to have your phone rooted to install apps that are not in the market. By default, this option is disabled. To get apps into your Android phone you just have to go into the settings and enable the ability to install apps not in the market. Simple and already in original ROMs.
Now, there are some apps that take advantage of ROOT and have some special feature, but you can still install them on your phone if you do not have ROOT, but you will not be able to use the app's special feature.
As with all apps, some make your phone run better and some make it worse. Caveat emptor.
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AH, well then. That would be why I threw my thoughts out there...for correction if needed. But the SetCPU thing needs root right? And that is the one I think I definitely want.
Thanks JJ you've been a savior!
You guys here have been awesome and very informative on the irc. I'll still need some guidance but you guys have helped a lot and didn't give me hell for being a noob.
Thanks again!
I finally got the nerve up to root. Wow simple thanks to all the advice here at XDA.
Now, the question, and yes some what of a noob , but hey, I rooted, with no questions. LOL
I was under the impression that the Sprint bloatware, when removed with Titanium would free up storage (internal).
I have deleted , football, kindle and a couple others and have not seen any change.
And also what is safe to remove. I followed a link and it showed about 8 progs.
Thanks to all, I am a real good computer hacker. going back to the 90's, but for some reason get nervous doing the phones.
BTW love my EVO
had g-1 and nexus 1
It should show for internal however the apps you are removing might not be that big.
You can remove sprint TV, voicemail, football, nascar, (sense), radio, sprint app updater, Nova, Amazon mp3, stocks,all corresponding Widgets, basically everything sprint puts on the phone. One thing to remember is you need peep if you sync Facebook otherwise you will constant sync.
Thanks for the reply. How about you tube?
You could also flash a different ROM. I know from reading that there are close to stock ROMs that have all of the bloatware removed & even in some cases, Sense, but they're still Sense-based ROMs. I stuck with stock for a while, but finally switched to Cyanogenmod & was amazed at the amount of free ram compared to stock. I'm not sure about internal storage, but I don't move any apps to the SD (even though I could move all of them, minus widgets, if I wanted) and I have a ton of apps downloaded with ~250mb left in internal storage. I'm not sure how this compares to you, or if you'd want to change ROMs, but I suggest making that jump.
Edit: YouTube is safe to remove. You should, however, freeze them instead of uninstalling if you want to stay on stock & potentially accept an ota update in the future. If you've already removed some, then go ahead and remove them all.
Thanks, I plan I flashing in the near future. But damn, there are so many to choose from. It does seem CM is popular. Right now (one step at a time) just getting rid of bloat and duplicates.
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Thanks, I plan I flashing in the near future. But damn, there are so many to choose from. It does seem CM is popular. Right now (one step at a time) just getting rid of bloat and duplicates.
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I guess what I'm saying is, if you plan to flash anyway (at least in the near future), removing bloat is redundant. Custom ROMs don't have bloat installed anyway. I know it sounds like a daunting task, but with the right amount of general technological knowledge/experience you'll do just fine. I was nervous too but after my first flash, I switched recoveries (I prefer Amon Ra over CWM), flashed a custom font and a theme within a week.
Just be sure to make a backup, and if you don't like it or something goes wrong you can just switch back & you'll be right where you left off.
But if you're not ready or you don't want to, that's perfectly fine. If you need someone to guide you through it & help you with the step by step, feel free to pm me when you're ready. There are plenty of other members here that will do the same.
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Thanks, I plan I flashing in the near future. But damn, there are so many to choose from. It does seem CM is popular. Right now (one step at a time) just getting rid of bloat and duplicates.
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I was once a newbie, just to let you know out of all the roms. CM has been the best, super fast great battery life. and the best of all now it has 4G. Before it didnt however CM7 RC2 now supports it.
Flashing a new rom is super easy just reboot the phone into recovery, (holding down the power button and vol down button on boot) make sure you have your rom zip file on the SD and flash it. DONE reboot and enjoy.
You can backup your text messages but i dont because its just more stuff to reload on the phone
In other words JUST DO IT!! I've never looked back since i started to flash my phone. and i hope you dont either.
Ya like the guy said above , freeze the apps dont delete them. And as far as a rom goes i would recommend the Destroyed Gingerbread Rom.. it owns!!!
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It should show for internal however the apps you are removing might not be that big.
You can remove sprint TV, voicemail, football, nascar, (sense), radio, sprint app updater, Nova, Amazon mp3, stocks,all corresponding Widgets, basically everything sprint puts on the phone. One thing to remember is you need peep if you sync Facebook otherwise you will constant sync.
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This is news to me. Can you or someone elaborate on this? I removed Peep a long time ago and I haven't noticed any issues with Facebook.
Finally got the nerve, CM is on. Gotta go play, get back later with my experience of it.
Thanks for the encouragement to all, so simple. Ha ha
It doesn't matter quite as much now that you're on CM, but just FYI, deleting apps that came with the stock ROM (or any rom for that matter) usually doesn't give you more space to install other apps -- at least not directly. Your phone has different partitions. Apps you install go to /data. Apps that come with the rom are in /system. Deleting from /system doesn't give you any more in /data.
You will save a little space on /data because it won't store the dalvik cache of that app (at least it will if you remove it. I'm not sure if freezing keeps it from caching the dex).
Hi, I'm new and this is my first post. I just got my Epic, hate the bloatware, and want to tether the phone without paying the outrageous fee. So, I'm thinking about rooting it, and I'm in the middle of the homework (yes, I'm reading every damn page; don't always understand it, but I'm reading).
Pretty nervous because, unlike my friend's (Verizon) Galaxy S, mine doesn't appear to have an onboard backup utility. On hers, she just goes to Settings > Privacy and there it is.
So, if I understand this correctly, Odin is the last chance to get back to stock after a near-brick. Correct? Next, I see that some of the links pointing to Odin in the stickies point to old versions --- 1.XX --- when there are much newer releases available. Should I follow the links or find a newer release? Are the old versions somehow better? Or is it just beause the stickies are old and those WERE the latest releases in 2007?
Thanks in advance,
Marco
just use odin 1.61 and up and youll be fine
Thanks so much. I really appreciate the help, and I'm probably within a couple days of taking the plunge to root my Epic.
Am I to understand, though, that there's no way to back up the entire contents of my phone as it sits now (apps and all)? That's not necessarily a deal killer, but if I can do it I'd like to. As it is, I've copied the contents of my SD card (which essentially boils down to a few pics, vids, & songs along with my game resource files). I'm assuming that, if I need to wipe, this doesn't do me a ton of good.
Is this all essentially true?
MarcoDeSade said:
Thanks so much. I really appreciate the help, and I'm probably within a couple days of taking the plunge to root my Epic.
Am I to understand, though, that there's no way to back up the entire contents of my phone as it sits now (apps and all)? That's not necessarily a deal killer, but if I can do it I'd like to. As it is, I've copied the contents of my SD card (which essentially boils down to a few pics, vids, & songs along with my game resource files). I'm assuming that, if I need to wipe, this doesn't do me a ton of good.
Is this all essentially true?))))
you cant really brick when rooting people brick after they rooted and are messing around . once you root immediately do the 3 finger button push and back up your data. also make sure you use the newest version of Clockwork which i believe is clockwork PURPLE but im not sure either way im running clock work purple and its all good. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Below is an email I received. I know very little about the Evo. Fielding suggestions:
hello!
Having a bit of reoccurring problem with my Android and posted my question on facebook. Jason responded & said I should ping you.
First three months with Sprint Evo - awesome. The 7 months since? Erratically hellish.
here's the main issue presently -
Okay Android aficionados, I need advisement - My HTC Evo keeps binding up because my contact information just piles & piles up. It's either a Sprint/Android thing and/or how the setup is pulling updates from Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Twitter and LinkedIn. Any ideas on how to fix this? Short of rooting or an iPhone? App2SD can't move enough stuff to the card. Had about 4 factory reboots in the past 7 months; Sprint tells me it's the number of apps I use (not the case) OR the combination of different apps (Possible, but I'm not buying it). Any way to send contact info to reside on SD card? Strip off the bloatware? Both are workarounds for the real problem but at this point... just need it to work.
Continued -
Fighting the urge to send Dan Hesse an email... For as much as this phone legitimately adds functionality to my life, it has cost me some serious time and sadly, some money also.
One more for good measure -
I would cut out updating my contacts but the information should be able to parse back & forth WITHOUT gumming up. Even a contact list of thousands should be able to do so, given WiFi and 4G (WiMax network) bandwidth. It's bad scripts, conflicting subroutines or bad hardware. HTC has typically had pretty good stuff & quality control is solid. I should be able to tote this thing and have access to my contacts, without having to also tote a laptop and/or tablet. right?
Okay, that's all of the facebook post(s)
Any thoughts? I'm trying to do this without rooting if possible but getting to the point that I might be ready to finally step off the ledge. Don't want to go Apple route; had to get a (used) MacBook Pro recently because I might have to go work for a (marketing/PR) agency and wanted to get back up to speed on OSX. More Apple than I want already.
Thanks & it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance!
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A follow up email....
It's less that the speed isn't really crapping out, It's that the internal memory fills up. My contacts was sitting at 190mb earlier, 160mb now. All are google contacts, no phone contacts. When export the data, it's the paltry 1-2 mb.
Purged my facebook data on the phone to free up some space as a stop game. My phone suddenly bottomed out around 12 today with less than a megabyte of internal memory.
Sure size of the contacts have something to do with it but I've still yet to see any of the "social media personalities" (use that nomenclature loosely and dubiously) complain about contacts gumming up their phone. Probably aren't on Sprint and some get new phones comp'd often enough (to review?) that issue doesn't come up.
I believe in the spirit of Android for certain. It seems to be only thing that can prevent Apple from monopolizing the segment, since Microsoft can't come up with a hybrid of the two that works or gains any sort of real adoption. And I hate the idea of a guy in a mock turtleneck being the de facto source of how I should do things.
As far as non-rooted Android in practice, the current setup of stacking (carrier) bloatware, manufacturer UI / extraneous software and a slightly bastardized Android version (in my case, Gingerbread) seems like too many cooks in the kitchen, even before pouring in apps and data to be managed.
I like HTC's Sense UI but would love to vote all the Sprint crap off the island. If Sense is part of the problem... then I'm willing to look in different directions. I'll quite yammering
Yes, you have issues. You need to root your phone so you can properly move ALL APPS to the SD card. Whats the big deal about rooting? The main problem is space and Sprint does not care.
Root, use a sound custom ROM, move all apps to the card, live happily ever after.
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I recomend you flash Myn's Two Point Two RLS5 as a ROM, it has loads of internal space left after flashing, and lots of add ons like custom keyboards, SBC kerbels, etc...
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^ trust me, that was my first suggestion.
I do not know this person, but they do seem opposed to rooting. Not sure exactly how the internal is so low (I do not use an Evo, is this common?)
Surprised the internal memory is so little. My Vibrant has a ton.
Well, it has Sprint bloatware that can not be moved or removed. Also, contacts takes a chunk of space with that many. If he has fb on phone, that alone will cause problems.
Rooting is the only solution and then once he does, he will probably wished he would have done it months ago.
Seriously, WTF? ROOT IT! It wont break it. All it does is allow ,YOU, the owner, to do what you want with it.
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^ what is the best method now? Assuming the latest GB.... I saw that Revolution was a beta... is that what most use? Better methods?
Thanks man. Wish I knew more about the Evo.
As far as I know yes, revolutionary beta is the only method for those who took the update. I rooted before the update so i used autoroot but I haven't heard of anyone having trouble with revolutionary, works great from what I understand.
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Use revolutionary.
Follow instructions precisely.
You DO NOT need to get your serial number under battery!
When you download rev to your computer and run it, it puts your electronic serial number in brackets on the command prompt line. Use that esn and enter it on the rev website to get they key. Copy and paste that key to the command prompt and hit enter. Let it do its magic. Run superuser, INSTALL THE RECOVERY THAT IT PROMPTS.
Then you can switch to AmonRA after you reboot and confirm S-OFF.
Then make a full nandroid backup of your stock rom. Copy that backup to ur pc. Then install a stock rooted rom from here, then FREEZE apps you do not use, using titanium backup. Move all apps to sd card using titanium. Then reboot and see if your problem is solved.
Note...when you move an app that uses a widget, to the sd card, the widget no longer works.
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Just click the EVO rooted 2.3.3 in my sig it leads directly to the website
Hey guys I have two questions.
1. I would like to do a backup of my phone the same way I would do an image of my PC drive using an image software like Norton ghost or Acronis true image. Is this possible on android? I've been reading about Nandroid backup and I think this does what I want but the only way to do this with Nandroid is to root and install a new recovery correct? Am I not able to hook my phone up using the usb cable and use an app on the PC to clone the internal SD and create an image of it? I want to create an image of my phone with all its settings, contacts, txts, etc so i can have something to go back to if needed. I would like to do this before I root if possible.
2. On the Samsung Captivate section we have a wiki that has all the info you need to learn how to do certain things, mods, root, etc, etc. I found something similar for our Gnote2 here started by Mjwhirly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987541 but I could not find a section of removing bloatware. I saw the link that was created by mrRobinson and he mentions using De-Bloater app that will do it for you with oneclick but is there a list of all the safe to remove apps that I can go through so I can decided which apps I want to keep and which I want to remove?
thanks in advance
Yeah you got it right - a nandroid is what you want. I'm a big time user of ghost - it's the same thing and works great. Root and install the TWRP recovery. Then first of all make a nandroid of your old system. If you want to go back to it all you'll have to do is unroot, change the recovery back, and use triangle away to reset the flash counter and you'll be where you are now - bone stock. You can't make a nandroid image backup until you root and change the recovery though.
On the second question I'd just recommend you install a rom. I use Cleanrom. It is already debloated for you (though you have still some choices), as well as optimized in ways that will amaze you (does 2+ days on battery sound good?). If you look at the various roms available, you'll see more people are using Cleanrom than any other - that should tell you something! Jedi is also great. Many of the AOSP type roms seem to have some minor issues, but the devs are trying to do a much harder thing than just debloat and optimize a rom that was originally released for your device. Whichever one you decide to try, best thing to do is just read the whole rom thread in advance if you have time. You'll read all the dumb questions that others have already asked as well as learn all the ins and outs of the whole process. If you want to then try a different rom, make a nandroid and you can always come back to your previous working system. Hope this helps and have fun!
hey thanks a lot Dumbo53
I guess i'll just have to go ahead and root and do a nandroid backup. I have actually owned a captivate since it first came out which was my first android phone and i have never installed a custom rom. I always did everything manually like debloat and stuff. Security wise how safe are these roms, I see a lot of people just running around and flashing any rom that gets posted. What I'm trying to get at is do we know what's inside of these roms or do we just rely on the honor system and assume that they're safe, like can I trust these roms if I do my banking on them, which i am scared to do ever since I saw a message from the keyboard app on my captivate prompt about capturing my keystrokes or something, basically like a key logger, so I never did try to log onto any sites involving my banking or work email etc. but now that I have my note2 I want to be able to do all that stuff, like emails, banking, accessing my site for maintenance etc etc just for the instant access part of it instead of booting up my laptop or desktop... But I guess I can say the same thing about the stock rom too.
Your banking info is much more likely to be stolen off of a corporate website that got hacked. Whenever you use a credit card to buy something from a company or store, your number passes through some unknown employee's hands and gets stored in another database. Since millions of these numbers are stored together under sometimes weak security, these sites make much more tempting targets than your phone for thieves. The numbers are then sold off in blocks of thousands on the internet. Does that worry you enough to stop using a credit card?
However it is true that there could be a risk in installing a rom, or indeed any software on your phone. If it were discovered that a dev was putting malware in their mods or roms, I'm sure it would create quite a stir! I've never heard of this happening, though I have heard of shady stuff being done with mobile apps that you buy. All I can suggest you do is just read a lot more so that it is easier to distinguish between real threats and imaginary ones, and to learn how to protect yourself. In any case financial institutions have to protect their customers from a lot of these types of fraud, or they'd have trouble staying in business.
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Sounds good. I'm just getting the chance to root and install TWRP been super busy with work so I haven't had the chance to do it. Now installing a recovery does not wipe data right? also on a different note I use both the play store and amazon app store. I have purchased a bunch of apps from amazon and most of them worked but there are a few that say my phone is not compatible. Like the need for speed games and asphalt games will not install from amazon. I haven't tried the same apps from play store but maybe I should. Oh one big one is autodesks sketchbook pro. I don't even see that option on the play store when searching using my phone but its there when i search on the pc. I purchased sketchbook mobile and that works but i needed the features that pro has so i purchased that through amazon again thinking that it would work. I thought this phone was basically a tablet, shouldn't these tablet apps work on our phones?