Why backup apps? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I noticed that when backups are made of applications and then later installed from backup, the phone loses knowledge of the fact that these were market apps... thus, it loses awareness of when updates are available. Does anyone know of an easy way to deal with that?

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what about it? i have that on my phone. are you saying it is supposed to be immune to this problem? i dont see evidence of that.

Use AppBrain App Market to backup/reinstall... it does it straight from the Market so the phone realizes the app has been installed.
Had to learn that the hard way when restoring apps from MyBackup

edufur said:
what about it? i have that on my phone. are you saying it is supposed to be immune to this problem? i dont see evidence of that.
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Titanium backs up the application's market link.
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edufur said:
what about it? i have that on my phone. are you saying it is supposed to be immune to this problem? i dont see evidence of that.
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Two ways to fix this:
1. In TitaniumBackup, there is a "Market Doctor" function.
2. After a TitaniumBackup restore, go to the market and download any app, it will sync up with the apps you have installed and restore the market links.

wy1d said:
Two ways to fix this:
1. In TitaniumBackup, there is a "Market Doctor" function.
2. After a TitaniumBackup restore, go to the market and download any app, it will sync up with the apps you have installed and restore the market links.
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That seems like a lot of work. If I have like 20 apps, I have to download 20 times? So far, I am not liking that. I will look into that app brain thingy.

edufur said:
That seems like a lot of work. If I have like 20 apps, I have to download 20 times? So far, I am not liking that. I will look into that app brain thingy.
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He said download any app meaning one and then the market will sync up.
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edufur said:
what about it? i have that on my phone. are you saying it is supposed to be immune to this problem? i dont see evidence of that.
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The paid version of titanium really does handle this nicely.
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edufur said:
So I noticed that when backups are made of applications and then later installed from backup, the phone loses knowledge of the fact that these were market apps... thus, it loses awareness of when updates are available. Does anyone know of an easy way to deal with that?
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I use appbrain. After restoring apps from titanium, I sync within appbrain. Done.

bigmoogle said:
I use appbrain. After restoring apps from titanium, I sync within appbrain. Done.
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Thank you sir! I will take this advice! [Thumbs Up]

edufur said:
Thank you sir! I will take this advice! [Thumbs Up]
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er...Ma'am, you mean (the 'm' in my name is for 'mom'). I hope this worked for you

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Market cannot see all my downloads

After doing numerous back ups and restores, my market will no longer recognize all the apps I download. Since it does not recognize them I cannot see when updates are available.
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I am also having this issue. I backed up all my apps using titanium back then updated to damage control 3.5 froyo build. I was able to restore them all but for some reason they are not linked to the market and thus, won't let me update. Anyone know how to fix this?
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Any help on this?
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This isnt a fix but it my be of help till one is found. If you download AppBrain you can use it to tell you when there are updates. (jsut download then run and sync apps should list all apps with updates and you can then let appbrain update them through market.)
I have the same problem on the download portion seems even doing updates doesnt fix but that is what i do as a work around for now
Get Titanium backup and use the repair market function..
tyrnight said:
Get Titanium backup and use the repair market function..
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your a genius!. Thanks
for those looking menu > more > market doctor.
Thank you
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Hmm, it only repaired one.
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i have this same problem, since it isnt fixed i decided to bump it instead of starting my own thread
Saved my butt many times..along with their backups
ryohei47 said:
i have this same problem, since it isnt fixed i decided to bump it instead of starting my own thread
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okay, i figured this out long ago so ill share. just go into you applications settings and go to market then hit the clear data button. once you load the market up and accept the license agreement, it will show up.

Titanium backup pro question...

So I'll admit, I didn't search for this topic, but I'm in a real time pinch, and I hope someone can answer this by the time I come back, sorry.
My question is this, I love titanium backup pro and how I can flash any rom, and make it feel like home right away, my issue is this, is there a way to have the apps recognized and be able to be updated? I see in the market that it only understands that I have a handful of the apps I actually have installed, so there's no way for me to receive the updates on anything else.
If I'm missing something, please enlighten me. And thanks ahead of time for a soultion!
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Seattleite said:
So I'll admit, I didn't search for this topic, but I'm in a real time pinch, and I hope someone can answer this by the time I come back, sorry.
My question is this, I love titanium backup pro and how I can flash any rom, and make it feel like home right away, my issue is this, is there a way to have the apps recognized and be able to be updated? I see in the market that it only understands that I have a handful of the apps I actually have installed, so there's no way for me to receive the updates on anything else.
If I'm missing something, please enlighten me. And thanks ahead of time for a soultion!
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Have you tried clearing out Market cache?
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I can suggest two things:
- try using the Market Doctor feature in Titanium
- try installing a completely new app from the Market
I've noticed that doing the above will usually populate the "My apps" list in the Market after a Titanium restore.
whatever apps you have download through market, and backed up with TB pro and after restoring with TB Pro click menu and market doctor it will put missing links to market and should have all apps back in market as well ones that need update
Thanks everyone! TBP was one of my newest apps, so yeah, it didn't make all of the market connections, so I went through and redownloaded all my apps from the market, then did a new backup, so hopefully that (and the market doctor) will do it!
Thanks again for your help!
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Make sure in TB's settings that "remove market link" isn't checked. That'll give you hours of fun as you're finding out now. Also after you run the market doctor - reboot. It may not be necessary per instructions and whatever else but a good 'ole reboot fixes a lot of things.

Searching the forum

Ok so I'm trying to search just the epic4g area of the forum with my xda app. But I can't seem to figure out how. I have a bunch of questions that the wiki didn't answer but I'm sure someone has asked so I don't want to again. But. When I search I get stuff from other deviece forums as well. Any ideas
Thanks. And is there a thanks feature?
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The app does not have a section-specific search or a thanks button. Might as well ask them.
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zanderman112 said:
The app does not have a section-specific search or a thanks button. Might as well ask them.
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theimpaler747 said:
This is the part I agree with the most. Even from the phone, hit menu on the XDA app, browser, and thank the person helping you.
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Ask away. Ill answer what I can. I don't mind and won't flame ya
Trust us, there are more helpful people here, than flamers(no puns allowed!!)
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Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
I know I have or two more I was looking for the answers too but I can't remember right now
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svcbadass said:
Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
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Not sure about this one
svcbadass said:
#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
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Buy Titanium back up from the Market. Get busy box from with in the app. Do a batch back up of apps and data. Export contacts to SD card if they are not in your Google account. Once you root make sure you do a NANDROID back up. Flash way. Go to Market d/l Titanium "free" the license will automaticly turn it to pro it. Batch restore. Done.
svcbadass said:
Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
I know I have or two more I was looking for the answers too but I can't remember right now
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Ok, question 1 is odd, if you an issue updating and all you have done is rooted and changed to the Clean Kernel, its possible you got a bad download. Your best bet is to PM dRockstar on that one. Its really strange if it shows updates available and won't, that's some random issue
On to question 2...definately make a nandroid backup. Power down the phone. Hold volume down, camera button, and power on all at the same time. Scroll down with volume key and select backup/restore. Then select backup and let it do its thing. It takes a few minutes but then you have a backup to rely on BUT its always best to take out your SD card and backup everything to your PC. Nandroid backups aren't always perfect and sometimes if you use one it may not work. If you flash a ROM, its best to install apps fresh but you can (after flashing ROM) boot into recovery, scroll to backup/restore, then advanced, then restore data only. Some ROMs may give you fits that's why its always best to have a saved version of everything on your PC as well
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svcbadass said:
Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
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Apps bought from the Amazon Market can only be updated through the Amazon Market. The markets are separate and do not share purchase records. You'll need to have Amazon, and update through it, which is, unfortunately, a little slow on pushing out updates. Rest assured, they will come. Dev pages like SetCpu will post the app free sometimes, but the version in the market is donation-ware. If you want to get it updated for free, you'll have to go back to the page you originally got it and get a new one.
#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
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A couple things here:
What CWM are you on? If you have to update it for a new rom, be aware that the Nandroid backups will not be compatible, and you'll have to odin back to re-use a backup, should something go wrong. I don't know about Swiss Cheese, you'll have to read the posts in it's thread to know if it can flash without losing data. I've posted a rom called RandomROM that is based off of SRF 1.1.0, which can flash over another version of SRF safely, but may not work properly in other situations.
Thanks for the info on the updates
And I'm on cwm 2.5.1
I have a nandroid backup, a mybackup back up. Ill get that other one as well and ill see how things go and then try n flash a rom
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[Q] List play installed and side loaded app

Is there any way to generate a list of apps installed from the market and sideloaded apps?
Preferably a list that can be copied to a text file.
Thanks....
Titanium backup > options > send data
psykhotic said:
Titanium backup > options > send data
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Thank you. But that only lists all the apps, not which are side loaded. Do you know of any way to do that?
I don't believe there is a way to tell if an app is side loaded unless you specifically remember or check the market for ones that don't receive updates.
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joshnichols189 said:
I don't believe there is a way to tell if an app is side loaded unless you specifically remember or check the market for ones that don't receive updates.
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How does Play Market know that the app has been side loaded? Can we use the same technique to determine an apps "sideloadedness" ourselves?
Thanks in advance...
It may not help, but Titanium Backup has a Market Link feature where I think you can create/restore or disable a market link for apps. I've never used this feature so im not real sure its what youre looking for, but maybe you can find a way to filter based on this?
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What do you mean "sideloaded" tb shows every app on my device regardless of how it got there....
DocHoliday77 said:
It may not help, but Titanium Backup has a Market Link feature where I think you can create/restore or disable a market link for apps. I've never used this feature so im not real sure its what youre looking for, but maybe you can find a way to filter based on this?
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Unfortunately Titanium Backup does not differentiate between the two or give you a way to filter on side loaded app.
Thanks...
psykhotic said:
What do you mean "sideloaded" tb shows every app on my device regardless of how it got there....
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A "sideloaded" app is an app that has been installed on the phone without it being downloaded with Android Play/Market. Most file explorers will do this.
The latest versions of Android Play/Market will not update an app that has been sideloaded. It only allows you to open or uninstall the them. While this makes sense for paid apps (they might be pirated) it does not make sense for free apps (such as apps purchased on Amazon or download from XDA).
I sideload many apps (some apps from XDA) and I am trying to make a text list of all of my installed apps and then denote which of the apps were loaded through Google Play/Market and which were sideloaded. Any free Android Play/Market available apps that I find that I have sideloaded I will uninstall and re-install using Android Play/Market so they will update appropriately.
That is why I am trying to do this.
ChitownWingMan said:
How does Play Market know that the app has been side loaded? Can we use the same technique to determine an apps "sideloadedness" ourselves?
Thanks in advance...
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I believe they are signed differently. A sideloaded app will NOT receive updates from the Play Store.
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TB will show you which apps have market links, don't see a way to export it but if you email the whole list you could print it and cross them off or just load them into a spreadsheet... Not as quick but should be <10 mins.
joshnichols189 said:
I believe they are signed differently. A sideloaded app will NOT receive updates from the Play Store.
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With this in mind does anybody make an app that will list all of the install apps and whether they are side loaded or not?
psykhotic said:
TB will show you which apps have market links, don't see a way to export it but if you email the whole list you could print it and cross them off or just load them into a spreadsheet... Not as quick but should be <10 mins.
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Unfortunately I have used Titanium Backup Market Doctor to link everything to the Market so I dont' think that will work. If there is a way to get that information from Titanium Backup, please let me know how.
Thanks...
Market tools, market auto updates only shows me market apps and I've done the link repair thing too...
JKKKK no I didn't. I thought I had but I never ran it, whoops.
I fixed the links and ran autoupdater after selecting all, only market loaded apps showed up man so.....

sCloudStarter can't be uninstalled

Good Morning.
Since yesterday I've noticed, that an app called "sCloudStarter" was installed automatically into user apps.
I can't uninstall it, and there is also a process running.
I can't find any information about this in the internet.
Is here someone, who knows what this app is or does?
Antivirus does also nothing find when I scan my phone.
It's annoying, when apps are installed automatically without knowledge of the user.
Do you think it's harmless or is it a bad virus app?
I did nothing change in my system before.
I also made a full wipe, and after configuring my device with the new fresh system, this sCloudstarter was installed again.
Please, hopefully someone can help me or can give me an answer about this.
it's a Samsung system app related to S-cloud. This is like Google drive. You ha ave to be root to uninstall it.
Kremata said:
it's a Samsung system app related to S-cloud. This is like Google drive. You ha ave to be root to uninstall it.
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Thanks for your answer.
I'm rooted, but when I uninstall it, it is back in the next second.
It's not possible to delete it.
But I'm wondering, why it was installed automatically without any message?
That's bad from Samsung.
Do This -
I was frustrated with this annoying problem for hours before I did this - download an uninstaller that can identify an app named "Samsung Account" - followed by a long decimal number. Run it and delete Samsung Account first, then SCloudStarter, and hopefully that will work for you as it did for me.
Yeah there was a update which installs this app like a user app.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Yeah there was a update which installs this app like a user app.
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This means, that it is not a virus or something similar?
Therefor I leave it as it is.
But it's annoying, when such apps, with NO information, are installed automatically.
Thanks for your answers.
No no.
It's just the Samsung app.
The Samsung push service installed an app.
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soloarflp said:
I was frustrated with this annoying problem for hours before I did this - download an uninstaller that can identify an app named "Samsung Account" - followed by a long decimal number. Run it and delete Samsung Account first, then SCloudStarter, and hopefully that will work for you as it did for me.
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Care to share with others what the Uninstall program is that you are using? That would kind of solve it for everyone.
Freeze it using tb. Solved it for me
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xcly said:
Freeze it using tb. Solved it for me
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Sorry, Freeze it using tb...??? I don't get it....
Can you explain?
chungck said:
Sorry, Freeze it using tb...??? I don't get it....
Can you explain?
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Use titanium backup to freeze the app
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chungck said:
Sorry, Freeze it using tb...??? I don't get it....
Can you explain?
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Like the other post said, you can use an app called Titanium Backup to freeze apps, and delete them. This one should be no exception. Freezing apps would be recommended first, as you can then see how the phone reacts when you disable an app. You can always delete later, but I still would recommend just freezing. Even with a 16 GB device, you won't gain that much space by deleting these apps that who knows if you may need later.
That works
soloarflp said:
I was frustrated with this annoying problem for hours before I did this - download an uninstaller that can identify an app named "Samsung Account" - followed by a long decimal number. Run it and delete Samsung Account first, then SCloudStarter, and hopefully that will work for you as it did for me.
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This works. It uninstalls after you uninstall the Samsung Account XXXXXXX
chungck said:
Sorry, Freeze it using tb...??? I don't get it....
Can you explain?
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If your phone is rooted, there is an app called TitaniumBackup in the Play Store. TitaniumBackup can freeze apps and the frozen app no longer runs on your phone or shows up in your app drawer. TitaniumBackup is the first app that in my opinion needs to be installed on a rooted phone. It's the best app that I've ever paid for, followed closely by Root Explorer.
It's also a good idea that before deleting an app you should ALWAYS have TitaniumBackup backup the app first. This way if your phone starts to act really weird, you can go into TB and restore the app.
It looks noxious
I had a look at the permissions for this in its App Info area,
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* Your Personal Information
add or modify calendar events and send emails to guests without owner's knowledge, modify your contacts, read calendar events plus confidential information, read call log, read your contacts, read your Web bookmarks and history, write call log, write web bookmarks and history
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OMG! It astually lists "send emails to guests without owner's knowledge" like that's nothing to be alarmed about! In fact, most of what is listed there is setting off alarm bells to me.
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chungck said:
Sorry, Freeze it using tb...??? I don't get it....
Can you explain?
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There is an app titles Titanium Backup that you can use with root. (highly recomended btw). This lets you uninstall bloatware, freeze apps (basically hides them and keeps them from running but keeps them on the phone), backup apps and data so if you have to reinstall or switch phones you can restore them without having to set them up again. Freezing also lets you stop the app which makes you provision and pay extra to tether your phone so you can activate it without paying extra.
It is a must have app imho for rooted users and I highly recomend the pro version. (you can only freeze with pro)

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