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Hello Guys,
Can you guys please go to the following link and star that problem, to see if Google can do something about correcting this issue.
this low volume is the biggest complaint about staying stock.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=35084
Why not just use Franco kernel and use volume boost... I just hate filing complaints.
-tapped from my paradigm Franco kernel Galaxy nexus
I have the same problem with a nexus galaxy with jellybean 4.1.1
I found a soluction in web that talk of change a string in system\build.prop
"ro.config.vc_call_vol_steps=" and change its value to 10.
But my problem is that in my build.prop the string there isn't.
How i can solve the low volume on my nexus?
Volume+ (volume boost) don't work, it crash at start
Bump!
If any of you guys have time, please Star that topic.
I know it can easily be fixed via rooting the device or what not.
But i'm kind of over the whole rooting scene in a way and just want to stay stock.
but it bugs me that if my nexus is in my pocket or if im not in a quiet room i can barely hear anything.
i also emailed the google play support team, hopefully they will reply.
i've owned way too many google devices for them to just ignore us like that.
best believe if this issue is not resolved via software update, sad to say but i will be switching over to ios.
reply back from Google Play.
I guess they cant do anything about it.. This sucks.
Hi JC,
Thanks for your response back. I can understand how annoying it can be to
experience low volume on your phone device and having to wait for the
development team to come out with an OTA to fix the issue. Unfortunately,
this information isn't available to us since it's being handled by the
Android development team. I recommend you report the issue directly to the
development team. Here's how you can report platform bugs:
http://developer.android.com/support.html
There is also a chance that the issue might be something Samsung might be
able to either repair or perform a replacement for; depending on how long
you've had your device. If you'd like, you're welcome to give us a call
and we can see if this will help. I'm providing a link to our click to
call below:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy&policy=hardware
If you have any other questions or concerns, please reply back to this
email and I'll be happy to help further.
Regards,
Jay
The Google Play Team
cangri87 said:
Bump!
If any of you guys have time, please Star that topic.
I know it can easily be fixed via rooting the device or what not.
But i'm kind of over the whole rooting scene in a way and just want to stay stock.
but it bugs me that if my nexus is in my pocket or if im not in a quiet room i can barely hear anything.
i also emailed the google play support team, hopefully they will reply.
i've owned way too many google devices for them to just ignore us like that.
best believe if this issue is not resolved via software update, sad to say but i will be switching over to ios.
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If you are just referring to Music / Video audio volume you might want to check out this app.. I haven't tried it.. I'm running CM10 which sounds great...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.omegacentauri.SpeakerBoost&hl=en
I can understand the stock mentality but with a couple adjustments you will get a better than stock - stock experience...
Personally If I wanted to stock-ish, I would flash the stock rom, root, install trinitystable35 kernel, install trickster mod, adjust headphone volume only and then set superuser to deny any root attempt by default without a prompt...
X Fleshcoated said:
I have the same problem with a nexus galaxy with jellybean 4.1.1
I found a soluction in web that talk of change a string in system\build.prop
"ro.config.vc_call_vol_steps=" and change its value to 10.
But my problem is that in my build.prop the string there isn't.
How i can solve the low volume on my nexus?
Volume+ (volume boost) don't work, it crash at start
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If you wanted to add that to your build.prop, you could download Build Prop Editor from the Playstore, create a key named ro.config.vc_call_vol_steps, and give it the value 10. At your own risk, of course.
Do they even test this stuff? It's beyond unacceptable to have a speaker this inaudible. Makes me want to throw my phone every time I try to watch a video.
I added my two cents to the link.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
http://db.tt/tWto1g0U
Download to computer. Extract with 7zip. Move entire media folder to sd and replace/merge current media folder. Might get warning staying device cannot play some files. Ignore. They work.
*Shaolin Shadowboxing *
Weird. I have better than average volume on everything and haven't modified anything other than putting CM10. Might it be a specific version?
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ALUCARDDEV said:
Weird. I have better than average volume on everything and haven't modified anything other than putting CM10. Might it be a specific version?
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these ringtones are only ones i can hear.
And I've used multiple roms
*Shaolin Shadowboxing *
i have updatet to 4.1.2, still the same Problem, shame on google, that's a basic functionality !!! i have tried everything ... it's on ebay now
A simple app from a Play Store does wonders, if you don't want to unlock your phone.
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Cyanogenmod is the Way...
I also has got version 4.2.1 and I stock ROM is just fine for me, I never liked CM, but I have got root. A have got problem with volume too, do not hear SMS in my pocket at all.
I did not find the solution, Volume+ boost app still do not work with JB (hopefully will work soon) and Speaker Boost still "stop working", even the old versions.
So, do you know any other solution?
JB 4.1.1 Low volume issue resolved - at lease for me
i had the same issue when i upgraded my stock S3 to 4.1 -- the speaker volume was very low in Nav and music players.
Increasing the "Media" volume fixed it for me.
click on the volume button (up or down) and then click on the settings icon at the end of the slider. Now slide the "Media" volume to the highest.
Everything is back to normal -- in nav audio and speaker phone etc.
If you have not already tried this, you can give it a try ... it might fix it!
htc_fuzer said:
i had the same issue when i upgraded my stock S3 to 4.1 -- the speaker volume was very low in Nav and music players.
Increasing the "Media" volume fixed it for me.
click on the volume button (up or down) and then click on the settings icon at the end of the slider. Now slide the "Media" volume to the highest.
Everything is back to normal -- in nav audio and speaker phone etc.
If you have not already tried this, you can give it a try ... it might fix it!
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I had got problems with ringing and notifications, so this is not solution for me, BUT found another one, Ringtone Maker.
I have upgraded to cm10.1 with jb 4.1.2.....I did the nightly builds for 01-02-2013...
the volume is horrendous.... even worse than stock. I don'tknow what else to try. hopefully it will be fixed in the next night builds......full speakerphone volume soundslikeit's coming from the headsetat full volume.... and the headset volume at full is barely audible even in s quiet room. I turned on the boost in strings but it did nothing. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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also....just curious.... is it normal fir cm10 to take up about 6gb of internal memory? I tried clearing everything out buteven after a clean install that is what it takes up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748803
carinlynchin said:
I have upgraded to cm10.1 with jb 4.1.2.....I did the nightly builds for 01-02-2013...
the volume is horrendous.... even worse than stock. I don'tknow what else to try. hopefully it will be fixed in the next night builds......full speakerphone volume soundslikeit's coming from the headsetat full volume.... and the headset volume at full is barely audible even in s quiet room. I turned on the boost in strings but it did nothing. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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also....just curious.... is it normal fir cm10 to take up about 6gb of internal memory? I tried clearing everything out buteven after a clean install that is what it takes up.
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Try AOKP. It give me loudest sound output.
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I upgraded from htc one s to galaxy s3. 3 things I mis ftom my one s.
1) sound quality in the ear piece sounds muffled compaired to one s.
2) I miss the dedicated multitask button on the on s, here I have to hokd down the home button lame
3) musuc audio quality is noticeable wuthout beats audio
Is there a work around for any of these features that I miss from my htc ine s. Also can I do any of this without rooting.
Would like to keep phone original if I can get these to work.
Plus I have not read any information on rooting yet. I do imagine the rooting process has imprived since the S3 came out.
Any links to read on this would be appreciated
Thanks in advance.
pvaldeben said:
I upgraded from htc one s to galaxy s3. 3 things I mis ftom my one s.
1) sound quality in the ear piece sounds muffled compaired to one s.
2) I miss the dedicated multitask button on the on s, here I have to hokd down the home button lame
3) musuc audio quality is noticeable wuthout beats audio
Is there a work around for any of these features that I miss from my htc ine s. Also can I do any of this without rooting.
Would like to keep phone original if I can get these to work.
Plus I have not read any information on rooting yet. I do imagine the rooting process has imprived since the S3 came out.
Any links to read on this would be appreciated
Thanks in advance.
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1) I have good quality sound with my headset( but I am in a custom rom).
2)Just the way it works on Samsung GS3.
Go Here and you will see my rooting method with links. If new to flashing check out my signature for a comprehensive guide how to.
1. Cant really help you there, I'm happy with mine and haven't read too many complaints from people.
2. You'll get over it, not to sound rude, I missed certain things from my old phone but I got over it and used to the new way I do things.
3. Mess with the equalizer and with root there are sound mods you can install.
[REF] [GUIDE] Welcome to your device, the Galaxy S III http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900345
[GUIDE] Flashing ROMs correctly, every time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1946701
I'm on aokp so don't remember how to get to the eq settings for the earpiece. From what I remember you go to the dialer app and choose settings. From there I think you select personalize eq. You need to have a set of headphones ready before proceeding.
stir fry a lot said:
I'm on aokp so don't remember how to get to the eq settings for the earpiece. From what I remember you go to the dialer app and choose settings. From there I think you select personalize eq. You need to have a set of headphones ready before proceeding.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought he was saying earpiece like just holding the phone to his head, not a blue tooth or headphone set with mic...
Root ad install beats audio from the market
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I tried installing beats audio from the market, did everything it said and when rebooting the phone froze and i had to flash back to stock and reroot. Not touching that app with a 10ft pole. Nova launcher makes things easier for things like multitasking with gestures. Love that ability to do so.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
mt3g said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought he was saying earpiece like just holding the phone to his head, not a blue tooth or headphone set with mic...
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You are absolutely correct!!!
I upgraded from the One S and couldnt be happier.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
I own both and the GS3 is by far a better device hands down, there really isn't any comparison between them with consideration to the quality. I have a Beats Headset and I don't notice a difference between the two but that's because the headset is so clean it's hard to see the difference anyways.
I like the fact the back button is on the right instead of the left like it is on the One S and I'm more than sure if you wanted to get that multitask button working with a little work anything is possible, I'm actually surprised you were able to look at the two and not be glad you have the GS3 that alone is amazing itself there is no true multitasking on the One S and clearly the GS3 is a huge upgrade from the One S.
I guess I'm just wondering why you even bothered getting it if that's the worst you could find wrong with it.
Beats integration is just an overglorified equalizer.
Use a good music player like Power Amp and you can get pretty much the same effect if not better.
Have 3 things to say:
1) Thanks to all for the advice. I did find the EQ from music and the ear piece. So thanks for those tips. I enjoy music much more again.
2) HTC One S and Galaxy S3 have the same chip and I think HTC One S is even more responsive when returning to home screen. I've had HTC for over 3 years. I guess i have a learning curve to catch up with Touchwiz. Only reason I upgraded is bigger screen and separate SD card. Apart from that not much difference between both phones.
3) Sharing a possible solution for multitasking button. I know "button Savior" app adds an icon to the side of the screen making all the menu, home,back, etc.. accessible with your thumb. Only thing is I need to root to get full functionality. Icon and soft buttons can be customized .
If some can try #3 and let me know if you can get multitasking working that would be great.
Thanks in advance again to everyone.
pvaldeben said:
I upgraded from htc one s to galaxy s3. 3 things I mis ftom my one s.
1) sound quality in the ear piece sounds muffled compaired to one s.
2) I miss the dedicated multitask button on the on s, here I have to hokd down the home button lame
3) musuc audio quality is noticeable wuthout beats audio
Is there a work around for any of these features that I miss from my htc ine s. Also can I do any of this without rooting.
Would like to keep phone original if I can get these to work.
Plus I have not read any information on rooting yet. I do imagine the rooting process has imprived since the S3 came out.
Any links to read on this would be appreciated
Thanks in advance.
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Rooting is the way to go though!
In all honesty, simply rooting your device and keeping it on the stock rom is probably the easiest thing you can do.
That way you can install things like: AwesomeBEATS and something to change what each of the hardware buttons do.
Being on CM10 I can change what each hardware button does (long press Home=Google Now ; Long press menu = Tasker)
The "lag" when going back to the home screen when pressing home is do to the fact that s voice is set up with a double tap option for the home button. Turning this option off increases response time. Go to s voice, menu button, settings and uncheck the launch s voice.
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scooter247 said:
The "lag" when going back to the home screen when pressing home is do to the fact that s voice is set up with a double tap option for the home button. Turning this option off increases response time. Go to s voice, menu button, settings and uncheck the launch s voice.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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What this guy said
Plus my friends have stock gs3 and omg that **** is so slow compared to a custom Rom. It seriously lagged. I hated it lol
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Sound wise, both kind of suck. Beats Audio is just an EQ set with an emphasis on bass, there's nothing special about it.. The sound chip on the American S3 is also somewhat subpar considering the International version has a Wolfson..
you should make another post for your s3 for the first 48 hours see if that makes any difference
saldebot said:
1) I have good quality sound with my headset( but I am in a custom rom).
2)Just the way it works on Samsung GS3.
Go Here and you will see my rooting method with links. If new to flashing check out my signature for a comprehensive guide how to.
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saldebot you are the man thanks for the direct links for rooting. The true reason I did not want to root is because I was a recovered flashaholic from my HTC Evo 4G days, but now I guess I'm back on the wagon or off the wagon. Well I hope I don't spend to many late night like this one since I have to get up at 6:30 am. LOL really not funny..
And now I have multitask button working and all other menu button near my thumb with button savior. No more reaching all the way down or having to press and hold the home button. Sweet, its this rush that feels good
ok good night to all flashaholics,
No problem glad I could help. Welcome back to the darkside :thumbup:
1. What is beats?
2. You'll get use to it.
3. SGS3 is amazing.
I am running the jedi 6x rom and my audio quality is terrible. When I'm on the phone it almost sounds like the speaker is blown, even when I just play music it sounds terrible. Is there something I can do to fix it?
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Have you tried a clean re-install to make sure in some a software issue.
If it's you hardware see if you can get it replaced or repaired under warranty. You'll need to go back to stock though.
I am also using the same rom and I too have the same problem. Earpiece and speaker are crackling when there is an "S" sound. I dropped my phone in water a minth ago so I assumed I damaged the speakers but reading people having same problem changed my mind.
I think it's because the volume of the rom is high? I dont know. I hope its a software issue not hardware.....
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I'm also running Jedi ROM and haven't noticed anything.
Ya. I tried a stock rom and it had the same issue. I have tried different roms and kernels and I am still having this issue. I thought at first that it was not that bad, but it is becoming incredibly annoying. Would flashing that ac!d mod thing change anything?
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I have the same issue... on some songs it even does it while its quiet. The sound is there if the volume is over 80%, and it does it through the built in speaker and external.
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It could be that somehow you''ve had an extreme sound mod applied without realizing it. This is the thread that shows how to edit the default_gain.conf file yourself and you can check your own file against EdgaBimbam's Ultra, Mid, Normal, and Stock Templates. It's pretty easy to do. Open the files up in a program like Notepad+ and compare them. As each device is a bit different, the settings that make my phone sound good may make yours distort.
The other thing that springs to mind is to see if you are using a kernel (such as Perseus) that has a (different) sound mod embedded in it - referred to as Voodoo Sound. Perseus comes with an utility called STweaks and it has an audio page that has a bunch of settings on it including an equalizer. I think it is all enabled by default. There are several of the settings that can cause distortion or help to remove it if I understand it correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931970
Dumbo53 said:
It could be that somehow you''ve had an extreme sound mod applied without realizing it. This is the thread that shows how to edit the default_gain.conf file yourself and you can check your own file against EdgaBimbam's Ultra, Mid, Normal, and Stock Templates. It's pretty easy to do. Open the files up in a program like Notepad+ and compare them. As each device is a bit different, the settings that make my phone sound good may make yours distort.
The other thing that springs to mind is to see if you are using a kernel (such as Perseus) that has a (different) sound mod embedded in it - referred to as Voodoo Sound. Perseus comes with an utility called STweaks and it has an audio page that has a bunch of settings on it including an equalizer. I think it is all enabled by default. There are several of the settings that can cause distortion or help to remove it if I understand it correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931970
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This may be the case. Although it did it while stock, the volume has always been extremely loud, even in comparison to my other phones with multiple sound mods. Ill give it a shot and see what happens.
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So I thought I would give a quick post on my GNEX setup and tell you there is hope for people who love music and hate teh GNEX stock sound/volume.
Go to AOKP.co and get the latest AOKP MR1 Build 2 for your phone model. This is 4.2.1 you will need to wipe coming from anything else (yes a full wipe) treat your phone as you would your butt...You dont want your phone to stink trust me... I would also suggest you visit TWRP's official web site and use your WUG's Nexus tool kit (advanced) to flash this recovery FIRST and Foremost. (Yes I put hings out of order sometimes to make sure your reading)
Get the suggest GAPPS from the AOKP post...
Go grab the latest lean kernel 5.8 for JB 4.2...I love me some Franco but so far his are experimental and Lean is 100% stable (also rocks battery life as much as can be expected on early 4.2.1 builds.
Go grab the AC!D Audio 5.0 (for most phones) I use the Noozoxide add-on (they suggest walkman player but I prefer the DSP so things like Pandora etc will get the benefit.
Flash them in that order and always wipe your dalvik between each package (some people are gonna flame me but hey this works and I shouldnt have to answer a single question afterward) After you reboot and login to Google stuff... First go to settings--> sound-->music effects and select Noozoxide or awesome beats (nothing wrong with either one..as long as you installed it) I have both installed and they wont break anything as long as you dont set them both up...you can switch Ill tell you how later. Afterward go to your app drawer and open the one you chose.
For Noozoxie selct line out audio monitor--> check sof-cliiping---> selct HARD in signal strength...Check deliver natrual sound enabled. First change the digital preset to Audiophile...you can tweak this once you realize its just basically an eqaulizer. The last option VSUR can be check and select studio if you experience rattleing or have garbage headphones... The other options are for built in speaker and bletooth...
You do similar things for amazing beats please feel free to play with them as its really based on how your ears hear/ headphone quality.
If you try one and want to try the other one make sure you uncheck every option in the one that you tried...go back in settings-->sound-->music effects and check the music FX thats built in to android...go into google music play a track go to options at the top right corner select music effects slide the one/off button on then off...go back to sounds-->music effects-->select the one you didnt try the first time... then go to your app drawer and teak the respective app while google music is playing your favorite JAM...
Enjoy your buttery smooth eargasm that I have bestwoed upon you..
-Joe
This has nothing to do with Q&A...but for what it's worth 'Best setup' = Whatever you like as it's YOU that uses the phone not someone else
I'm a DJ and my EQ levels might be crap for someone else and vice versa
OK...
EddyOS said:
This has nothing to do with Q&A...but for what it's worth 'Best setup' = Whatever you like as it's YOU that uses the phone not someone else
I'm a DJ and my EQ levels might be crap for someone else and vice versa
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Yes you are right thats why I didnt give any specific DSP EQ setup information...also if you cant put statements in here they wouldnt have included a box to check that says this is a question...
And furthermore if you dont have Ac!d Audio or the beats+xlouder mod installed your credentials as a DJ are very questionable...If we wanted to be told how something should sound stock we would own iGarbage...
Thanks for your uselessness and inability to post something useful on my thread...Your just gonna look stupid when everyone else starts throwing thanks....
jrgilbert79 said:
Yes you are right thats why I didnt give any specific DSP EQ setup information...also if you cant put statements in here they wouldnt have included a box to check that says this is a question...
And furthermore if you dont have Ac!d Audio or the beats+xlouder mod installed your credentials as a DJ are very questionable...If we wanted to be told how something should sound stock we would own iGarbage...
Thanks for your uselessness and inability to post something useful on my thread...Your just gonna look stupid when everyone else starts throwing thanks....
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I don't use my phone to listen to music Being a DJ I only bother to use my Sennheisers with my Pioneer separates or CDJ/DJM setup
And you'll look stupid when the mods close this thread
jrgilbert79 said:
Thanks for your uselessness and inability to post something useful on my thread...Your just gonna look stupid when everyone else starts throwing thanks....
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what sounds good to you, doesnt sound good to every other person
so just like roms/kernels....
THERE IS NO BEST
EddyOS said:
I don't use my phone to listen to music Being a DJ I only bother to use my Sennheisers with my Pioneer separates or CDJ/DJM setup
And you'll look stupid when the mods close this thread
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So you think you know everything...If it were possible to pit your flat response Sennheisers (cheaply made of plastic) against my v-moda M-100's you would lose everytime...sorry Bro but the fact that you take your phone and another music player with you is cumbersome at best...I understand that you think your doing the best but if you tried AC!D Audio instead of ass-uming you got this you would be extremely surprised...the point of the thread wasn't to tell you what rom it was to tout the sound quality improvment of the audio mods...I just tell people to use aokp cause its 100% working with this and the audio mod is awesome...Personally I dont blame you for not using your phone as an MP3 player...if I had to deal with low volume stock non-sense I would probably use something else as well. Please forgive me for thinking the point of XDA was to improve our phones in some way...Now I know I should just naysay things I havn't even tried based on a complete lack of information.
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This has nothing to do with Q&A...
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See my first post...it's still applicable. Perhaps it belongs somewhere else, that's for mods to decide
And I don't listen to music on my phone OR another music player, you'll never get the EQ right. Plus, the Sennheiser HD 25s are regarded as the DJ-standard headphones so I'll be sticking with them for now
Lies...
Zepius said:
what sounds good to you, doesnt sound good to every other person
so just like roms/kernels....
THERE IS NO BEST
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The concensus for the GNEX is the sound sucks...Also if you havn't tried any of this then please keep your wisdom to yourself...I have never in my life tried to help people jsut to get a bunch of rude flames from trolls...Oh wait yea I use the internet everyday... I can say with 100% truth that this audio mod is better than stock...you can even decide not to tweak any equalizer and its better...there isn't even a doubt that this is better sounding audio...this isnt just some BS poweramp program this improves sound quality accross your phone period...
I don't listen music in my phone.
CM 10.1 is best for me.
Franco's kernel is pretty stable for me.
Ondemand is the best governor
Orion is the best ringtone.
EddyOS said:
See my first post...it's still applicable. Perhaps it belongs somewhere else, that's for mods to decide
And I don't listen to music on my phone OR another music player, you'll never get the EQ right. Plus, the Sennheiser HD 25s are regarded as the DJ-standard headphones so I'll be sticking with them for now
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So you dont listen to music outside of your house? Club? WTF...Ill just take my deck out of my car too cause it cant compair to my setup at home...No one is gonna take you seriously dude...Really I refuse to listen to music on the subway cause its not as good as my home stereo HAHAHAAHAHAH...You know what you sound like I dont even have to waste my breath...
jrgilbert79 said:
So you dont listen to music outside of your house? Club? WTF...Ill just take my deck out of my car too cause it cant compair to my setup at home...No one is gonna take you seriously dude...Really I refuse to listen to music on the subway cause its not as good as my home stereo HAHAHAAHAHAH...You know what you sound like I dont even have to waste my breath...
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Of course not you mong! I have my car, which is set up professionally for my sound/music taste, and I don't have to take public transport. On the odd occasion where I do have to catch a bus/taxi (e.g. I've had a bit too much to drink) I just don't listen to music. I converse with my peers as opposed to sit in silence nodding my head. You can sit there with your phone but it will NEVER be as good as a proper setup so, for that reason, I don't bother. Why should I listen to music when it's nothing like the artist originally intended?
End of the day, you think you've got it right so well done. All I'm saying is 1. This has NOTHING to do with Q&A (I don't remember seeing a thread asking for help with the perfect audio setup), and 2. Everything is subjective so it kinda makes this whole thread redundant. It falls into the same category as the 'This is the best ROM setup' threads
joooe said:
I don't listen music in my phone.
CM 10.1 is best for me.
Franco's kernel is pretty stable for me.
Ondemand is the best governor
Orion is the best ringtone.
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And you can keep being lack luster...Its about the audio mod not the rom...I only posted AOKP (saying this again) because other roms have issues and it doesnt. So I have been flashing Roms since the Droid 1 and I know quite a bit...More than you I dont know...I have no way to test your knowledge or lack there of...Also Interactive is pretty good...on-demand tends to have a sluggish wake up when coming out of sleep...I suppose if I had created a governer called bigwanginaymouth I could tout that and have everyones mouth wattering ...pun intended.
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So you dont listen to music outside of your house? Club? WTF...Ill just take my deck out of my car too cause it cant compair to my setup at home...No one is gonna take you seriously dude...Really I refuse to listen to music on the subway cause its not as good as my home stereo HAHAHAAHAHAH...You know what you sound like I dont even have to waste my breath...
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The concensus for the GNEX is the sound sucks...Also if you havn't tried any of this then please keep your wisdom to yourself...I have never in my life tried to help people jsut to get a bunch of rude flames from trolls...Oh wait yea I use the internet everyday... I can say with 100% truth that this audio mod is better than stock...you can even decide not to tweak any equalizer and its better...there isn't even a doubt that this is better sounding audio...this isnt just some BS poweramp program this improves sound quality accross your phone period...
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you know why you're getting flamed? because you're being a rude, condescending person.
now this is the part where i critique your guide and rip it apart.
1) you recommend a toolkit, worst idea ever. lets have people mod their phone with no knowledge of what they are doing. thats a great idea.
2) you throw your opinions in the mix like they are the end all be all about kernels. every kernel runs different on every phone
3) your guide jumps around and is not a clear guide at all.
4) your step by step instructions are medicore at best. the steps are so fuzzy inside that guide its basically not worth reading.
5) this line: Enjoy your buttery smooth eargasm that I have bestwoed upon you..
is not needed.
6) you're trolling for thanks and not actually interested in helping.
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Of course not you mong! I have my car, which is set up professionally for my sound/music taste, and I don't have to take public transport. On the odd occasion where I do have to catch a bus/taxi (e.g. I've had a bit too much to drink) I just don't listen to music. I converse with my peers as opposed to sit in silence nodding my head. You can sit there with your phone but it will NEVER be as good as a proper setup so, for that reason, I don't bother. Why should I listen to music when it's nothing like the artist originally intended?
End of the day, you think you've got it right so well done. All I'm saying is 1. This has NOTHING to do with Q&A (I don't remember seeing a thread asking for help with the perfect audio setup), and 2. Everything is subjective so it kinda makes this whole thread redundant. It falls into the same category as the 'This is the best ROM setup' threads
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All I can say is that Ac!d Audio is not at all subjective...Its not even in the same ballpark...Its not somethign that most people are going to attribute to a placebo and for people who dont listen to music on there phone for whatever rediculous reason......it also improves notification and ringtone volume so you might actually hear a call/text from 30 feet away...what is your F'ing problem...if you cant take a backup and try something new you really really really dont need to be here at all. And thats the most truthful truth (I would go as far to say non-subjective definitive statement) that has been made here today. <---Just call me a cowboy for not thanking Samsung and Google for making the audio of the Galaxy Nexus the saddest attempt ever made...
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All I can say is that Ac!d Audio is not at all subjective...Its not even in the same ballpark...Its not somethign that most people are going to attribute to a placebo and for people who dont listen to music on there phone for whatever rediculous reason......it also improves notification and ringtone volume so you might actually hear a call/text from 30 feet away...what is your F'ing problem...if you cant take a backup and try something new you really really really dont need to be here at all. And thats the most truthful truth (I would go as far to say non-subjective definitive statement) that has been made here today. <---Just call me a cowboy for not thanking Samsung and Google for making the audio of the Galaxy Nexus the saddest attempt ever made...
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Hey, I'm all for giving something a go but this isn't something I have any need for. If I wasn't game for flashing something I wouldn't be using Android! May I also ask why not listening to music on a PHONE (key word there) is ridiculous? My phone is a communications tool for my work and personal life, so it's primary use is calls (obviously), SMS, email, Twitter, Facebook and Internet access. I don't game on it, I don't listen to music on it.
I don't need a high volume ringer cause my phone is always in my pocket (not 30 feet away - what's the point of a mobile phone that you don't keep on you?) so for me this guide is useless. I'm sure some may find it useful if you re-wrote it to make a bit more sense.
My ORIGINAL issue was it has nothing to do with Q&A - where is the question you've answered? If it's a guide then it should really go in the thread for the app in question to help users of that app set their phones up or, at a push, General for Nexus owners
As a professional audio engineer, sounds like to me like you're being fooled simply by volume and compression. No, I have not installed and listened to the programs you're talking about. I'm simply judging them by the names of the settings you're saying to tweak. Hard signal strength to me means loud (most things sound better when they're louder), soft clipping means it's allowing the system to slightly peak (distort) while placing a brick wall limiter in the audio path to allow the audio to be a loud as possible without actually giving the listener a distorted listening experience. This what what radio stations do. I would guess that if you were to take the headphone jack out to a recording interface and record the audio coming out, it would be nothing but a solid blocked waveform with no dynamic range.
Do your ears often feel fatigued after listening to music with these settings?
Here's an image that shows you what I'm talking about. This is actually comparing a song on vinyl to the same song on a CD but it get's my point across. The top waveforms are vinyl and the bottom are from the CD. Notice the clear peaks and valleys in the vinyl waveforms compared to the hard flat edges seen on the cd waveforms. Now imagine the CD waveforms compressed even more and that's probably what you're listening to.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...stering-vinyl-vs-cd-in_rainbows_waveforms.jpg
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As a professional audio engineer, sounds like to me like you're being fooled simply by volume and compression. No, I have not installed and listened to the programs you're talking about. I'm simply judging them by the names of the settings you're saying to tweak. Hard signal strength to me means loud (most things sound better when they're louder), soft clipping means it's allowing the system to slightly peak (distort) while placing a brick wall limiter in the audio path to allow the audio to be a loud as possible without actually giving the listener a distorted listening experience. This what what radio stations do. I would guess that if you were to take the headphone jack out to a recording interface and record the audio coming out, it would be nothing but a solid blocked waveform with no dynamic range.
Do your ears often feel fatigued after listening to music with these settings?
Here's an image that shows you what I'm talking about. This is actually comparing a song on vinyl to the same song on a CD but it get's my point across. The top waveforms are vinyl and the bottom are from the CD. Notice the clear peaks and valleys in the vinyl waveforms compared to the hard flat edges seen on the cd waveforms. Now imagine the CD waveforms compressed even more and that's probably what you're listening to.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...stering-vinyl-vs-cd-in_rainbows_waveforms.jpg
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Thank you for your post. I appreciate the information. I don't understand what you mean by being fooled though. Your ears hear what they hear. You are 100% correct about everything the only thing I can tell you is using your phone with headphones (preferably B-class driver CANS) sounds really good. The reason for Hard somcpression and sof-clipping specifically with this device is the audio is so low to begin with if you can force the DAC to go louder these settings sound good possible because of the lack of vloume already on the phone. I do tend to turn things down a few notches now to make it comfortable for longer periods. Before the phone would fatigue my ears and sound terrible because I was forced to turn it up all the way just to enjoy the music. (rocking out if you will) This audio plug actually gives the device responsive bass...The DSP settings do use virtualization tricks to make the sound more pleasant however the untweakable sound engines installed are very real and use some beats,some dobly, xlouder from sony, etc etc etc. The best advice I can give you is just flash it ...after a backup of course. As long as you rom is up to date it should work and I would really appreciate if reverred opinions from sound engineers would lend some credability to the post.
Thanks much, -OP :highfive:
Is this post really about purity of sound? In a smartphone?
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Is this post really about purity of sound? In a smartphone?
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Hey this post is about teaking lemons and making lemondade...Honestly the phone is awesome even for an old Gal except audio. Will this mod be as good as a professional setup? NO! But why hinder people who have the phone and want to use it to play music while they do (whatever). No one should judge me because I listen to music on it instead of exclusively on something that cost thousands of dollars. That being said...I am at a loss for words why no one has went over to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923630
...and tried it. When it takes 5-10 minutes to make a backup on CWM or TWRP and flash something that you could use while ..(lets say camping) to listen to tunes pleasantly instead of barely being able to drown out the wildlife noises. Discalimer: The MOD will not force you to listen to music exclusively on your smart phone. It might however open up narrow minds to the the ability of the phone to be far superior to an iPOD. So please try this, even if you do there is not need to revert because it doesnt break or take away from anything it only betters your device should you get stuck in an elevator with someone you hate maybe you can make there annoying voice disappear.
What I can say 100% is this is BETTER than stock period. There is no question and unless you have tried it and didn't like it then you can't contribute here. It MIGHT be the BEST audio setup for the phone right now...will we have something better in the future? I don't know but it will probably be AC!D AUDIO 6.0 (the updated MOD).
And just to clarify I could not give two douces if anyone thanks me...I don't know you, will never know you, and really would refuse to shake most of your hands if I did meet you because no one has done anything to help in this thread so far. People are so rediculous that they havnt even been searching for something to fix the poor audio that I have been crawling forums since Nov 2011 when I stood in line for 3 hours just to say AWwwwwww...when I fired up the music player. Now it is acceptable and I want to pass on the good word. All I have gotten is flak from DJ's and forum etiquette gurus.
Thanks, Joe :fingers-crossed:
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Thank you for your post. I appreciate the information. I don't understand what you mean by being fooled though. Your ears hear what they hear. You are 100% correct about everything the only thing I can tell you is using your phone with headphones (preferably B-class driver CANS) sounds really good. The reason for Hard somcpression and sof-clipping specifically with this device is the audio is so low to begin with if you can force the DAC to go louder these settings sound good possible because of the lack of vloume already on the phone. I do tend to turn things down a few notches now to make it comfortable for longer periods. Before the phone would fatigue my ears and sound terrible because I was forced to turn it up all the way just to enjoy the music. (rocking out if you will) This audio plug actually gives the device responsive bass...The DSP settings do use virtualization tricks to make the sound more pleasant however the untweakable sound engines installed are very real and use some beats,some dobly, xlouder from sony, etc etc etc. The best advice I can give you is just flash it ...after a backup of course. As long as you rom is up to date it should work and I would really appreciate if reverred opinions from sound engineers would lend some credability to the post.
Thanks much, -OP :highfive:
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By "fooled" I mean, listen to a song you're unfamiliar with at a low-moderate volume, then listen to it with just a 3-5db gain... you'll think the slightly louder version sounds a lot better. Try it out.
Along those same lines, why do you think the general, non-audiophile, public thinks Beats headphones are the greatest thing since ice cream? Aside from them being the trendy accessory to ones wardrobe, people swear by their sound. I can say that I have listened to several Beats headphones, do they sound bad? No, I'd venture to say they sound good but not great. I'd never own a pair and I certainly would never use them in the studio. So why do so many people think they're so awesome? Because they are designed to have an over-hyped bass and treble response. People hear hyped bass and think "DANG! This is pumpin!" then they notice the extra treble and say "wow, these sound crisp!" They're being fooled and they're also being forced to listen to the music in a way that wasn't intended.
You were dogging something one else for using "flat-response" Sennheiser's, remember? The fact is, flat response headphones, earphones, speakers, and studio monitors is what audiophiles go after. Flat doesn't mean dull or boring, it means clean, pure, and untainted. With a flat response speaker you're hearing what the audio truly sounds like, which then allows you to make better adjustments to the audio. Think about it, if I mix a song using Beats headphones and then you play it back in your car, they first thing you'd say is "Where's the bass?" Well, my ears were fooled by the over-hyped bass on the Beats that I thought it had plenty! You'd then notice how the track doesn't sound very clean and crisp, why? Because once again the over-hyped treble of the Beats threw my ears off and made me think the high end was where it needed to be and any more adjustments to it would just make it sound tinny.
Hopefully that helps.
First off I'd like to say thanks for this great forum. I've used it many times over the years but just recently registered. I've never really had anything substantial to add (still don't). In the past I've had a Photon and HTC One M7, both from Sprint. I never really had the urge to mess with them at all. I recently bought a Note 4 and I decided to root it. I'm more of a computer person, building and customizing but never got into messing with phones.
With that said I'm in need of some help so I decided to register. Not sure if I have much to add at this point to become a contributing member so if anybody is hesitant to help I completely understand. I've been a noob on many other forums, and have also seen noobs come and go. So if anybody can help, that's great and I thank you ahead of time. If not, that's OK too.
I was completely torn between the new LG, an HTC One M9 and the Note 4........ I even considered the Nexus. The audio quality of the M7 that I had was and still is better than any other non-HTC phone on the market and it was really tough to convince myself to get something different. I wanted a big screen with great hardware. The Note 4 had all that except for the audio. The audio, speakers and headphone quality absolutely suck. I am terribly disappointed. I was going to see if HTC was going to release a version with a bigger display, I saw that it is a toned down version. If HTC made a 5.5-5.7" maxed out version like the smaller M9 I would have gotten it.
Now, I've rooted this phone and I've gone through all the steps of installing V4A and no matter what I do it does not function at all. The problem I see is that my phone upgraded to Lollipop. In order to properly install V4A the SELinux mode needs to be set to permissive. There was an app (I forget the name of it offhand) that could change the mode, unfortunately it is not compatible with Lollipop. Without changing the mode to permissive I cannot properly install V4A.
I've searched through this forum a couple times over and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Is there another way to change this mode? What about recommendations for one of the custom ROM's that has V4A in it? I'm really open to any suggestions. I'm really fed up with this phone telling me what volume level is enough. I use this phone for music all the time and the stock equalizer automatically cuts the volume down to the highest equalizer setting. I can hear the difference, when using Spotify if I skip to the next song the stock equalizer (SoundAlive) takes a split second to kick in and you can hear how it should sound without SoundAlive. For all this Note 4 has, I'm really starting to regret getting this over the M9. It would be a great phone if I can get some volume back as well as some decent sound quality.
JJFIVEOH said:
First off I'd like to say thanks for this great forum. I've used it many times over the years but just recently registered. I've never really had anything substantial to add (still don't). In the past I've had a Photon and HTC One M7, both from Sprint. I never really had the urge to mess with them at all. I recently bought a Note 4 and I decided to root it. I'm more of a computer person, building and customizing but never got into messing with phones.
With that said I'm in need of some help so I decided to register. Not sure if I have much to add at this point to become a contributing member so if anybody is hesitant to help I completely understand. I've been a noob on many other forums, and have also seen noobs come and go. So if anybody can help, that's great and I thank you ahead of time. If not, that's OK too.
I was completely torn between the new LG, an HTC One M9 and the Note 4........ I even considered the Nexus. The audio quality of the M7 that I had was and still is better than any other non-HTC phone on the market and it was really tough to convince myself to get something different. I wanted a big screen with great hardware. The Note 4 had all that except for the audio. The audio, speakers and headphone quality absolutely suck. I am terribly disappointed. I was going to see if HTC was going to release a version with a bigger display, I saw that it is a toned down version. If HTC made a 5.5-5.7" maxed out version like the smaller M9 I would have gotten it.
Now, I've rooted this phone and I've gone through all the steps of installing V4A and no matter what I do it does not function at all. The problem I see is that my phone upgraded to Lollipop. In order to properly install V4A the SELinux mode needs to be set to permissive. There was an app (I forget the name of it offhand) that could change the mode, unfortunately it is not compatible with Lollipop. Without changing the mode to permissive I cannot properly install V4A.
I've searched through this forum a couple times over and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Is there another way to change this mode? What about recommendations for one of the custom ROM's that has V4A in it? I'm really open to any suggestions. I'm really fed up with this phone telling me what volume level is enough. I use this phone for music all the time and the stock equalizer automatically cuts the volume down to the highest equalizer setting. I can hear the difference, when using Spotify if I skip to the next song the stock equalizer (SoundAlive) takes a split second to kick in and you can hear how it should sound without SoundAlive. For all this Note 4 has, I'm really starting to regret getting this over the M9. It would be a great phone if I can get some volume back as well as some decent sound quality.
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You need custom kernel to set mode from enforced to permissive... or google there is away to enable V4A to work with stock kernel that involve romtool.
This phone imo is top notch in all areas but I agree with you on the audio quality, stock music player that is. I use PowerAmp and all of that changes, even through the phones tiny speaker. My suggestion is to revert to stock and simply install the app if you're just looking to improve audio quality. Just my 2 cents.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer
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This phone imo is top notch in all areas but I agree with you on the audio quality, stock music player that is. I use PowerAmp and all of that changes, even through the phones tiny speaker. My suggestion is to revert to stock and simply install the app if you're just looking to improve audio quality. Just my 2 cents.
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I've heard many good things about PowerAmp but as far as I know that's only applicable to downloaded songs. It doesn't work with Spotify.
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I've heard many good things about PowerAmp but as far as I know that's only applicable to downloaded songs. It doesn't work with Spotify.
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Yeah that's true. Sorry
I'd suggest using the Emotion r14 kernel. That will get you permissive and a much snappier phone as well as having tweaks specific to sound. It supports Faux 123 sound on top of everything else. You should find a link to the kernel in the original android development area.
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Sorry the Emotion kernel can be found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2990557
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I'd suggest using the Emotion r14 kernel. That will get you permissive and a much snappier phone as well as having tweaks specific to sound. It supports Faux 123 sound on top of everything else. You should find a link to the kernel in the original android development area.
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Sorry the Emotion kernel can be found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2990557
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Thank you for the recommendation. I'll check it out. If I can get the permissive setting I shouldn't have any issues getting V4A installed. Everything else that comes with that kernel is an added bonus.
OK, that kernel worked great! I was able to install V4A almost flawlessly. No disrespect to any of the equalizer apps out there but V4A is by far the best audio control I've used. I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get this installed. That kernel did make the phone a little "snappier" as you put it. I haven't had a chance to mess with Synapse, I might just leave well enough alone as it's now working he way I want. Thanks again.
im just curious do you still have data after flashing that kernal?
Do I still have data? Not sure what you mean.
Hello to all.
Can someone help me with the tunein radio not working with viper audio?
I changed my phone to permissive, and added the 2 zips somebody uploaded that changed the build prop. But i still cannot get viper and tunein to work together. Maven Pro audio works great as does iheart with viper.
Thank you in advance.
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I'm not a subscriber of Tunein, I wish I could help ya. Does V4A work with other audio services?
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I'm not a subscriber of Tunein, I wish I could help ya. Does V4A work with other audio services?
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Yes. I heart and maven pro music player works great with viper.
Thank you for your reply.
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ulremember said:
Yes. I heart and maven pro music player works great with viper.
Thank you for your reply.
Blessings
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According to this it's an issue with Tunein. It is a little old so not sure if there is a different issue since then, so take it for what it's worth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456073&page=24