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Hi all
I'm opening a new thread about this issue as I can't find any solution to this problem anywhere else (and most threads seems to be cluttered with less valuable info).
Yesterday I got an SMS which I read right away and replied to some seconds later. When I pressed "Send" from the TouchFLO-SMS app. my phone stopped responding. I was waiting for a few minutes to see if it came back to life, but to no avail. I did a soft reset and everything seemed fine, except I had one unread message according to TouchFLO and the standard WM messaging app. I've tried every solution I could find on the forums, like: disabled threaded messaging to look for unread messages, read all of them anyway, installed the "Mark all as unread" (SafeInboxExtender) and even tried to replace the file "htmlnote.dll", but that isn't possible. I can't rename, copy or replace the file (tried "all" file explorers I can come by).
I don't know why this happens, but I know that a lot of people at my work have the same problem with the same phone (and other 6.1-phones).
Hard reset is not an option any way you put it..
Hoping to find a final solution to this issue (or else I'll go back to my Nokia with Series 60 as usual - it's flawless, but not so nice..)

Have you tried backing up your texts to Microsoft's My Phone service?
I can't offer a solution to your problem, but if you have a backup you can do more drastic things like deleting all your texts. The worst that will happen if you sync to My Phone again is that the SMS that you've deleted on your phone will be archived.

I've solved it now. After numerous attempts with FixUnread and soft-resets it worked

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I've solved it now. After numerous attempts with FixUnread and soft-resets it worked
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do u have the cab for the fix unread?

Microsoft MyPhone and SMS

Hi:
Just got a new phone and used MyPhone to restore sms etc. to my new phone.
Well, it did restore all sms, but it restored them in a crazy, erratic order . Out of date, out of time (for example an sms from 10/25 shows after one from 10/26, and one from 10pm shows after one from 10am etc). Is there anything I can do about arranging them? I did of course try the view by MESSAGE TYPE, FROM etc (in the upper right of messaging), which only rearranged the main/last visible sms in the thread.
Also, the restored texts only show sent texts in TF3D sms tab (TF3D 2.1, WM6.5 stock ATT), but it does not show received texts.
Please help, as everything is a MESS now.
Thanks!

That's a good point. I noticed that too. Also my mms don't get restored with their pictures attached.

I've been having this problem for a bit now, wow, thought it was only me. However, when I log onto myphone on the net, everything is there, very strange

I've suffered the same problem as you guys, but I found a solution. Here are the steps I had to take to ensure the proper order of my SMS.
On your previous device you have to disable SMS threading. Here are the steps to do it (Assuming its WinMo 6.1):
1.) In your registry go to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\
2.) Create new DWORD value name: SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
3.) Set the value for that DWORD to 1
4.) Exit and soft reset device
Now you have to install Jeyo Mobile Companion to back up your SMS on your old device. You can use it as a trial for 30 days. Here is the website: http://www.jeyo.com/companion.asp
1.) Connect your previous device to the software and backup your SMS only (you will be given options to backup contacts and e-mail as well) using the software. It should be self-explanatory to do this. This creates a local backup file on your PC.
2.) Hard reset your Tilt 2
3.) Make sure in your Task Manager that Messaging is not in there
4.) Connect your Tilt 2 to Jeyo Mobile Companion. Choose the restore option to restore your SMS
5.) When the process is complete, go your SMS Inbox. If you see your Inbox sorting out your messages, then your job is complete. If you have a lot of SMS's this process can take a very long time. Do not interrupt the process at all! Just leave the phone idle for a while. If you do not see your Inbox sorting the SMS's continue reading.
6.) Delete all your SMS's on the Tilt 2. Make sure drafts, inbox, and sent items are empty. It can take a while to delete all the messages.
7.) Repeat steps 3-5
This is all based on my experience of restoring the SMS in the right order. If anyone has a simpler and more efficient way of doing this, please post.

Hi:
Thanks for your reply. Sadly I no longer have my old device.
Is there any other way of fixing this problem?
Thanks again!

From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.

There were many complaints of this on the MyPhone forums and last I checked, Microsoft said that this was a known issue based on when the device was inserting a given message into the message store.
They said that they were working on it.

das-man said:
From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.
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Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies
So, after restoring with Jeyo, can I then turn threading back on? I can't live without threaded messages lol.
Thanks again!

Oh I am sorry I forgot to mention that. After you backup your messages without the threading, you should hard reset your phone. Then just follow the steps like I mentioned. So yes, your threading should be enabled again by default so you don't have to worry about that on your part.
BTW, please don't forget to keep copies of your old backups (any backup files you had before I made my suggestions).

Hi:
Well when I disabled threaded messaging for some reason it caused my phone to become unresponsive. SMS tab was no longer loading in TF3D, and all of TF3D was basically unusable.
I had to hard reset, and restore with Sprite.
So, now I am back to the messed up SMSes.

Sorry to hear that. Yeah I was lucky enough to still have my old phone to mess around with so I am not sure how get your SMS in order. If you still feel like messing around I still have a few ideas in mind lol.
Forget trying to disable the threaded SMS all together. This time try backing up your SMS on your Tilt 2 using Jeyo. Once it's backed up, look in Jeyo and see how it is arranged. If you see all your received SMS in "Inbox" and sent SMS in "Sent" I guess that is a good sign. Then perform a hard reset on your phone and try restoring your SMS from Jeyo's backup file.
If after the first restore from Jeyo, your message is still out of order, don't panic. Like I mentioned earlier, delete all your SMS's(Not Hard Reset!) and perform the restore a second time. (I don't know the reasoning behind that, but hey it worked for me.)

Das-Man,
I have the HTC Touch Pro 2 with Verizon as my carrier and I tried your method.
I downloaded all my messages back onto my phone via My Phone. They were all out of order. So, I then downloaded Total Companion and edited the registry value as you said, so that they became unthreaded. Went to Jeyo's website, downloaded the program, backed them up.
I deleted all messages in my folders, deleted the registry values, made sure my mms was closed, etc. Then restored my messages. They went back on but they are still unthreaded in my windows sms windows.
I already had my contacts, etc backed up. So, I decided to reflash my rom thinking that it would definitely get rid of my threading edits. That went smoothly, and I tried again.
In the windows txt app they're still unthreaded, but in order. In HTC's texting window, all texts are now separated by author. IE. All of mine are at the top, with all of my correspondents at the bottom. Though they are in the correct order, this still isn't very helpful.
You have any more ideas of what I could do or where I might have gone wrong?

First of all, the HTC's texting Window is a mystery I have not solved yet. Yes, mine also has the same nonsense with the the messages I sent on top while the messages I received on the bottom. I am still researching into it, and if i find a solution, I'll definitely let you know.
Now for your Windows txt app; after you reflashed the rom you said your msgs are still unthreaded after you transferred them. I am not sure if I had the same problem but I remember something was wrong the first time I transferred. That is why I deleted all the text messages and did the transfer process a 2nd time w/o reflashing the rom. In other words, the first transfer usually doesn't work for some odd reason but the 2nd time it does. If you see messages being sorted, then you are good to go, and don't touch it til you are certain it is done. I hope I didn't confuse you lol. BTW is it WM 6.5?

Ugh, this is the most frustrating thing ever.
After reading your post, I reflashed my rom again. Put the txts on once, it was a no go. No sorting happened. I deleted all of them, reconnected to Jeyo, and went to restore again.
Jeyo got through all the inbox and about 1/2 the sent box. Then it errored and closed out, not completing the restore. I went into my inbox to delete this incomplete transfer, and lo and behold what was there began to sort. I left it alone to make sure and everything rethreaded. It was fantastic. But as I said, 1/2 my sent messages were misssing and thus did not get rethreaded in. So, I deleted all my messages again. Repeated process, jeyo didn't error this time.
But of course, now they refuse to rethread. I have deleted/re downloaded probably about 10 times now and not once did it begin to resort my txts. I even reflashed the rom, hoping that it only would work the 2nd time, still no cigar.
I just don't understand what makes the windows messaging app want to rethread or not. Are there special options I should select in the restore? Am I supposed to be checking that overwrite box?
And yes, this is WM 6.5.

When I was doing the transfer, I did not have the overwrite option checked off. The best thing i could suggest, is reflash your Rom. Make sure in task manager that messaging is not in there. Use Jaya to transfer all your SMS to the phone. If it did not thread, make sure you delete all your text messages. Don't use Jaya to delete the SMS's but use the phone. Make sure you delete your sent box, inbox and even drafts. If you have a lot of messages, it can take quite a while to delete so don't panick. When you see everything is clearn try the transfer process again and hopefully it threads. I'm sorry if I'm repeating exactly what you did, but that is the best I can think of.

I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)

I don't seem to have the problem you are all facing. I tested many different scenarios without turning off Threaded Messaging. First synced all the messages, then archived only a few that were part of a threaded message. they obviously got deleted from the phone. Later I restored the same messages from the archive and voila, they were all back perfectly.
I'm not sure, but many of you might not be aware that there is a new version of MyPhone available. The one that came with my ROM wouldn't work unless I upgraded it, which I did.

hopelovebeauty said:
I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)
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Good to hear. BTW, were you able to get the HTC Messaging to thread properly?

Deleted sms text hidden away in ipm.root

When I delete a text, it should really be deleted and not hidden away for somebody to find later. That is what's happening on my Tilt 2 phone (stock rom, wm6.5).
When using the "search phone" feature, it found every text I have ever deleted. I click on a message and it opens up. Afterwards, I can go to touch-flo messaging, click on all messages, and the initial screeen will be ipm.root with all my messages that were supposedly deleted months ago. If I click on ipm.root drop down tree at the top, the screen shows the normal email accounts and folders (inbox, draft, outbox, etc). The only way to get the ipm.root to display again is to do another "search phone" and open a message that was supposedly deleted, then go back to the touch-flo ->all messages screen. From there, I can truly select and delete all of them.
I've searched and can't find anything on this issue. Is there a fix to make sure that sms messages delete when you tell it to instead of hiding them. They can build up over time and take up memory space. It's annoying that delete really means hide on this phone.

I'm watching this thread with interest

same here! i supposedly deleted a bunch of sms text messages and through sktools search message files i found them and was able to read them!

I too would like to find a solution to this. One of the tweaking tools (I think it is Advanced Config Tools) has an option to set the max number of texts saved in the deleted folder. I set this to 0 so now I don't have to manually delete the files from that folder too (although the deleted files still go to the deleted folder and for some reason it irritatingly sometimes takes a while for the files to actually disappear from there). Now I find that the files are still taking up space somewhere else.
Anyone know how to stop this behavior?

Hummm...I just did a search using Search Phone and the only thing that came up were messages that had not yet been deleted.
I'm using a Verizon TP2 with MightyROM's latest official ROM (released 5-24-10).
Maybe this is just an issue on T-Mobile?
ps. I think I figured out why the texts sometimes don't disapear from the deleted folder right away with max allowed set to 0. I think you have to close out WinMo text (not just minimize it or close the Sense message screen) for them to go away.

The problem is not going to fix itself
Well, I was hoping that someone may have a fix for this by now. It's just not right for these messages to pile up in a hidden place, when I tell it to delete.
I guess it's not bothersome to most people.... since it's hidden.

Tracini said:
When I delete a text, it should really be deleted and not hidden away for somebody to find later. That is what's happening on my Tilt 2 phone (stock rom, wm6.5).
When using the "search phone" feature, it found every text I have ever deleted. I click on a message and it opens up. Afterwards, I can go to touch-flo messaging, click on all messages, and the initial screeen will be ipm.root with all my messages that were supposedly deleted months ago. If I click on ipm.root drop down tree at the top, the screen shows the normal email accounts and folders (inbox, draft, outbox, etc). The only way to get the ipm.root to display again is to do another "search phone" and open a message that was supposedly deleted, then go back to the touch-flo ->all messages screen. From there, I can truly select and delete all of them.
I've searched and can't find anything on this issue. Is there a fix to make sure that sms messages delete when you tell it to instead of hiding them. They can build up over time and take up memory space. It's annoying that delete really means hide on this phone.
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they are not actually deleted because of the patriot act george w. bush passed...it is very sad...

After deleting from the inbox I will go to tools and empty the deleted folder. I've done searches and haven't been able to find them after that. I also Run Memmaid and that might purge them as well.

* first, install sms backup & restore.
* next, open app, select preferences, select Backup Folder then select External Storage.
* next, in preferences go to Backup Preferences, check Selected Conversations Only, then select “Select Conversations" to select whose text messages you want to save.
* The text messages backup pretty fast but if your phone does not give you enough time to backup all the messages you want, you can backup certain people's texts in one backup, then backup other people's texts in the next backup. It will save the backups to different folders (rather than over-write previous backup).
* on your phone, install sms backup & restore, your sd card and you are set to restore your text messages.

Too many SMS now messages won't work!

Hi all,
Having looked around I don't see anyone with the same issue as mine with regards to SMS.
I just got a new Nexus 2 days ago, and got the 4.0.4 update by doing the clear cache thing. All good.
I installed SMSBackup+ and started to restore all my text messages. Now I have about 21,000. Honestly I have no idea how I have that many, its possible some are dupes or something, I really don't know. But basically I left it to restore them overnight and woke up this morning with all my messages restored. Lovely.
But now, I tried to send a text to someone and it just froze. I quit to the home screen, went to go back to the message app but it just sits with a black screen doing nothing.
I presume its got something to do with it trying to load all the messages for the first time or something like that but I'm a bit gutted that it can't handle it. My old Galaxy S could handle them all with ease.
Is this a known issue on the GNex or am I asking too much with the volume of SMSs??
I'm a bit gutted if I've bought this brand new state of the art phone and it can't handle what my two year old SGS could!

It might have been the case that a couple of messages were corrupt. Try clearing the sms data and restoring again but only blocks at a time. If that doesn't work the messaging app might have an issue since your now running ics.
This could be an issue that hasn't been explored as your not the average user. I for 1 limit my messages at 200 a contact.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Thanks RT, but its so slow/congested it won't let me delete them either! I tried by going into the message app and choosing delete threads.
It loads every time I reboot the phone but if I do anything on it at all, it just shows me a black screen.
On first load I can see all the messages, but if I go into one of them, even one that is only 2 threads long, it just freezes on me.
Any idea how I can delete the SMS data without going through the message app?
Or am I staring down the barrel at a factory reset? (this isn't the end of the world as I only got the phone yesterday and haven't really installed anything yet)

Right then,
So instead of trying to do something with the stock message app to delete the sms messages, I downloaded delete old messages app and ran that before loading up the stock message software.
I think the next time I restore them I will try and put the 200 cap on them like my SGS did (I thought this was a limitation of the phone not an actual setting that I could adjust! I presume I'll find it in the stock SMS settings somewhere?)
Thanks for the help RT.

I've had that issue since froyo. anytime I restore thousands of texts, the messaging app just hangs. On the rare occasion it'll come to life but for the most part unusable. only solution seems to be to restore a small portion of your texts or have a blank slate
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Quit being so popular. Too many SMS.

I made a second label in my GMail I call SMS Backup and every few weeks I'll change my backed-up messages from SMS to the Backup label so when/if I wipe and restore, it doesn't pull in all my messages. If I need anything, I can easily search for it.

wheelerruss said:
Right then,
So instead of trying to do something with the stock message app to delete the sms messages, I downloaded delete old messages app and ran that before loading up the stock message software.
I think the next time I restore them I will try and put the 200 cap on them like my SGS did (I thought this was a limitation of the phone not an actual setting that I could adjust! I presume I'll find it in the stock SMS settings somewhere?)
Thanks for the help RT.
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To delete your messages / settings go into the sms app under Settings-Apps and clear all your data.
Yes you find the sms limit setting in the general setting within the sms app.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Can't access sms

Hiya.
I have a problem with sms. Me and my gf have sent several thousand sms between each other, and yesterday I noticed that I can't access our sms. It just says "loading" for a very long time.
I can't even delete them, nothing happens when I do that.
Any solutions? I don't really want to reinstall the whole phone.

Nebell said:
Hiya.
I have a problem with sms. Me and my gf have sent several thousand sms between each other, and yesterday I noticed that I can't access our sms. It just says "loading" for a very long time.
I can't even delete them, nothing happens when I do that.
Any solutions? I don't really want to reinstall the whole phone.
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I would try getting a third-party SMS app, to see if you can view them on that such as GOSMS.
If you can, try to delete them using that, and then go back to the stock SMS tosee if that helps, then you can delete the third-party app, it is just so you can use the SMS functions as you explain you cannot even delete them
Hope this helps.

Hey,
i think you have to restore your phone to default.
Normally your SD-Card get not touched by this process.
Greetz, SoLdieR9312

I managed to solve the problem by installing third party sms app. Thanks for the tip
There were around 4850 sms. I don't know why this happened though, did I hit the limit or something?

Nebell said:
I managed to solve the problem by installing third party sms app. Thanks for the tip
There were around 4850 sms. I don't know why this happened though, did I hit the limit or something?
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Android has a native limit of about 5000 SMS I believe. I had this same problem and if left long enough (hours) it would finally load but required that same waiting period each time I opened the SMS app. It was only one conversation that had a ton of texts but it still froze the whole app.
I installed SMS Backup and Restore + (its free) and it backs up all SMS and MMS to my gmail then deleted the conversation. If you go into the messages app into the menu (possibly advanced menu, can't recall) you can change the limit and android will just auto delete anything over the limit you set.
I think I set it for around 3000 SMS and 200 MMS and its been working fine since.