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largest battery for satnav motorbike use

hi all i have ordered one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390430333355?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
to use on my motorbike and i now want a huge or multiple batteries so that i can use copilot to navigate the uk with, i dont want to spend huge amounts but also dont want something that is crap and will damage my phone,
so please can someone advice me of big Mah batteries that will last longer than the standard and also be save to use without damaging my phone like some of the super cheep ebay ports will
thankyou

anyone could you advise me on a battery please

I think you might be better off with a power point to continuously charge it. They're just as cheap, even from the likes of Maplins, and easy to install.
I gave up depending on batteries on my bike years ago, if you have several they're fine for a day or two so long as you don't mind having to stop and change them out at random times, but if you're on an extended trip it can sometimes get tricky to find somewhere to recharge at night especially when out foreign or say camping.

FlamingGoat said:
I think you might be better off with a power point to continuously charge it. They're just as cheap, even from the likes of Maplins, and easy to install.
I gave up depending on batteries on my bike years ago, if you have several they're fine for a day or two so long as you don't mind having to stop and change them out at random times, but if you're on an extended trip it can sometimes get tricky to find somewhere to recharge at night especially when out foreign or say camping.
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the waterproof case i got only just fits the note so no room to plug a cable in, to bad as this would have been a great idea

I've got an Aquabox which is pretty much the same as yours and had the same problem, so I just drilled a hole in the thing
It's mounted to the bars and most of the rain is deflected by the screen anyway so not much actually gets to hit it, and it's survived since Christmas right on the Atlantic coast through lots of the wet stuff

you could also get something like this
Them Aquaboxes look alright ... might have to get one of them myself

Mugen 3000 mAh battery case available for order

Pre-order, that is
Here it is
At 89.50$ plus shipping it's a little steep, though. And I would have liked to have some images of the product rather than the phone. I know what the phone looks like already.

maybe an Image
you can check http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mugen-Power-Xperia-Compact-3000mAh/dp/B00RWR6XJG/
for the Pictures

Lol. With this case you can probably last 4-5 days with the z3c

Ridiculous price...$89.50
You can BUY n°5 10.000mah rapid charge external battery.......and you can use your z3c for 2 months.

tonkemaskin said:
Pre-order, that is
At 89.50$ plus shipping it's a little steep, though. And I would have liked to have some images of the product rather than the phone. I know what the phone looks like already.
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Does anyone have this for their Z3 compact? Does it fit snugly and clip on properly?

Thats actually a really awesome idea with using the mag charging ports! if it were 50 bucks i would get one right now

I'd love to see this case in a video, just to get a good look at its proportions etc. It is pricey....but I'd probably just spend the cash on car parts anyway.....
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OK. I lasted a whole 10 minutes. No will power. Bought one. I'll post back when I've got it in my hand and will post any pictures/answer any questions you guys might have ?

Ok, I have the charging case. If anyone is interested I am happy to answer questions/post photos etc.

ajgftw said:
Ok, I have the charging case. If anyone is interested I am happy to answer questions/post photos etc.
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You asked for it
1. I would like to see photos of the phone with and without the case lying on a flat surface, to get am idea of how thick it is.
2. When you use the case, does the phone think it's constantly being charged? What amount of days shows you ultrastamina mode?
3. How long does it take to charge fully?
4. Do you notice any overheating issues after using the case for some time?
Thanks, that's all I can think of at the moment

charliebigpot said:
You asked for it
1. I would like to see photos of the phone with and without the case lying on a flat surface, to get am idea of how thick it is.
2. When you use the case, does the phone think it's constantly being charged? What amount of days shows you ultrastamina mode?
3. How long does it take to charge fully?
4. Do you notice any overheating issues after using the case for some time?
Thanks, that's all I can think of at the moment
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No worries, should be able to answer all that over time.
I can answer question 2 part a) right now.
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When you use the case, does the phone think it's constantly being charged?
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The case has a button on the rear of the case to enable the charging process. When the case is deactivated the phone behaves as it would without the case. With the case activated it behaves as it would when sitting in a charging dock or with a magnetic charging cable attached.
The only 'downside' so far to the use of magnetic charging port is that when the case is activated the phone believes it is in a 'dock' and automatically answers phone calls with the loud speaker on.
But I have found mention of an xposed module that may rectify this automation, I will report back with a link when I have tested to confirm its effect.
I am studying all this week so give me a little while to fully answer all your questions, but I will answer them

Photos
Here are some photos that hopefully show the case and it's proportions well enough.
I'm no photographer by any means though haha.
Oh and ignore the metal dome stuck onto the back of it, that's for my car mount.

That looks so bad!
While it is awesome to have 5 days battery life, this is for special occasions only in my opinion.

apis10 said:
That looks so bad!
While it is awesome to have 5 days battery life, this is for special occasions only in my opinion.
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oh I agree. I wanted it mainly as an alternative to carrying a separate power bank hanging off the phone via USB cable. At least this case attaches neatly to the phone and can still fit my pocket.
So yes, ugly, but highly practical.
I feel I should also mention the build quality is really very good, it feels very solid.

How many days and sot you've got with this battery ?

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How many days and sot you've got with this battery ?
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Well, given the info on their homepage it should last at least twice as long as your phone does now.
built in battery is 2600mAH, the mugen brings an additional 3000mAh. So I guess in Ultra-Stamina mode it basically lasts like an old Nokia? I was actually about ordering one for my upcoming transatlantic flight, but I just saw that they'll ship again in mid-June only

Well, I will receive the mugen battery in 10 days, I don't use ultra stamina but stamina is on all the time so I will see exactly the difference. Now I have between 8 and 10 hours sot, if I have between 16 and 20 hours sot, it's just great so I wait to see ?.

ajgftw said:
Here are some photos that hopefully show the case and it's proportions well enough.
I'm no photographer by any means though haha.
Oh and ignore the metal dome stuck onto the back of it, that's for my car mount.
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Any more impressions now that you've had it for a short while? I'm really temped to buy one too.. it's just one of those "good-to-have" things.
Also, do you charge it via micro usb, like the smartphone and how long does it take to charge the battery case completely?
Btw, do we already know the size of the Z4 Compact? it would be great if it worked on the upcoming model too..

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Any more impressions now that you've had it for a short while? I'm really temped to buy one too.. it's just one of those "good-to-have" things.
Also, do you charge it via micro usb, like the smartphone and how long does it take to charge the battery case completely?
Btw, do we already know the size of the Z4 Compact? it would be great if it worked on the upcoming model too..
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So far so good! I do intend to put some more stats up from my usage I've just been flat out with university. Luckily that all wraps up next week!
Yep it just charges via the same cable as the phone.
The use of the magnetic charging port definitely makes the case much more useful. I had an epic ZeroLemon case for my note 3 with a built in extended battery and it such an ordeal to install and remove the phone from the case. This is a much better solution.
It's hard to measure the effect it has on predicted battery life because it charges via the magnetic charging port the phone recognises it as an AC charging source.
Once I have got some stats I might even make a little youtube review, maybe, don't want to get famous hahahaha.

Replacement battery

Anyone replace their battery yet? I bought my note 10 refurbed and never felt it had the power it should. Will last 3ish hours with light gaming and web surf. I've seen some replacements on amazon, just wanted to get some input.

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Anyone replace their battery yet? I bought my note 10 refurbed and never felt it had the power it should. Will last 3ish hours with light gaming and web surf. I've seen some replacements on amazon, just wanted to get some input.
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I bought one from zwxj on Amazon a couple of weeks ago. 20 minute install. Very easy. There a a few youtube videos you can search for that show the entire process.
I'm getting about 8 hours or more of screen on time now.
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I bought one from new power 99, was getting 10% loss for every hour for the first few months but then it started to go alot faster. They have a 1 year garantee on there batteries so i just wrote them 2 days ago and explained what was happening and they sent me a replacement the day they got my email. It was a little more expensive but definitely worth it. They also told me to just keep the first battery. So i would definitely recommend them . They didn't argue or tell me I'm doing something wrong when I sent the email , they just shipped a new battery out. It comes with all the tools to take tablet apart and was very easy to do.

So my battery is fine except when playing games. It's drops insanely fast. I have a refurbished model and am thinking a new battery should do it. Anyone have that issue and a new battery take care of it?
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My battery life is getting much worse, and the tablet is now 2 years old. Looks like time for a new battery here too...

Don't know if I need one yet. I know I leave it on the charger quite often and it seems to drain much faster under load than my refurbished nexus 7 2013, but standby time is much, much longer than my nexus 7. Disassembly also seems like a pain. I don't like that you have to pry on the screen

dougiefresh181 said:
Don't know if I need one yet. I know I leave it on the charger quite often and it seems to drain much faster under load than my refurbished nexus 7 2013, but standby time is much, much longer than my nexus 7. Disassembly also seems like a pain. I don't like that you have to pry on the screen
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Like the rest of you, I'm experiencing severe, and rapid drain from my battery. I just bought a brand new OEM battery for my tablet. Hasn't come yet, and I will let you know about any difficulties. YouTube videos make it look like a fairly easy job, and it doesn't look like there's much pressure on the screen while you do it. By the way, just for giggles I decided to check how difficult it would be to access the battery. Take it from me-DO NOT TRY TO PRY THE SCREEN LOOSE! You might lose the power and volume switch caps. Only remove the screen if you need to replace it.
Rather, pull the S Pen from it's socket, and gently pry the back cover loose. From there, follow the directions on YouTube carefully. When you are done, gently reseat the rear cover, and make sure that it's properly seated. You'd never believe that piece of chrome coloured plastic was so important. Sheer Genius!
Well, hope that helps.
Rob

Changed my battery about a week ago. Wasn't very hard and the results have been amazing. So happy.
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Hey which battery did you end up buying and from where? If you don't mind my asking
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Changed my battery about a week ago. Wasn't very hard and the results have been amazing. So happy.
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Get the one used in the most wellknown tutorial vid, from Newpower99. I wonder whether they ship overseas.

Any way to check to see how much power or life your battery has left? Just bought a used one and seems normal.

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Hey which battery did you end up buying and from where? If you don't mind my asking
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i got it from zwxj on Amazon. it was cheap. it was actually very easy to install. there was a small issue though. the cord that connects the battery is a little to long. and the plastic piece at the top isnt exactly correct. i was able to get it in though with minimal effort. they battery lasts forever. the only issue i have and it is a pita is it will randomly shut off when playing a game. doesnt happen all the time and there is no rhyme or reason to when it happens. i need to plug it into the wall and then it will restart with the same battery it shut off from. i could read things all day down to zero and it would never happen. wither way for the 15 bucks or so i spent on the battery it makes the tablet usable again and i love it.

graffix31 said:
i got it from zwxj on Amazon. it was cheap. it was actually very easy to install. there was a small issue though. the cord that connects the battery is a little to long. and the plastic piece at the top isnt exactly correct. i was able to get it in though with minimal effort. they battery lasts forever. the only issue i have and it is a pita is it will randomly shut off when playing a game. doesnt happen all the time and there is no rhyme or reason to when it happens. i need to plug it into the wall and then it will restart with the same battery it shut off from. i could read things all day down to zero and it would never happen. wither way for the 15 bucks or so i spent on the battery it makes the tablet usable again and i love it.
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I've bought one from AliExpress with the same issue in the little plastic piece on top so I guess it's from the same manufacturer. Mine constantly turns off. Even updating apps. It seems to be an issue with these batteries.
Also, I feel like it doesn't show the correct percentage. Is there something I should do after replacing the battery for it to show the correct percentage?
One last question and this goes to everyone. Using Ampere, could you please check and tell me whats the average drain in mA?
Thanks!

I use Battery Monitor Widget, included in the 3C Android Toolkit, and samplin battery data in sync with Android to save power. So Standby values should be too high to be representative, 0,05 to 0,2A. Idling with screen on, around 0,6A. Max Load should be over 2A or ten watts. These values should be calculated from the battery voltage instead of the Usb voltage. Attached to a power supply, the Note never seems to drain the battery, so there must be a ten watt power limit, it will simply no longer charge under full load.
Using improper plugs doesn't sound like a good idea, the contacts could get so hot, that the plastic of the plug und socket or the back cover could melt and the contacts could de-solder themselves from the main pcb.

Just ordered a OEM Samsung battery today. Will post when I getvand get it installed. Battery is totally flat on my device.

graffix31 said:
i got it from zwxj on Amazon. it was cheap. it was actually very easy to install. there was a small issue though. the cord that connects the battery is a little to long. and the plastic piece at the top isnt exactly correct. i was able to get it in though with minimal effort. they battery lasts forever. the only issue i have and it is a pita is it will randomly shut off when playing a game. doesnt happen all the time and there is no rhyme or reason to when it happens. i need to plug it into the wall and then it will restart with the same battery it shut off from. i could read things all day down to zero and it would never happen. wither way for the 15 bucks or so i spent on the battery it makes the tablet usable again and i love it.
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I had the exact same thing happening with mine after replacing the battery. Check your CPU clocking. If you're on a CM ROM it's probably overclocked & set to 1900MHz. If you set the governor to 1300MHz (which is the factory clocking speed, I think) it should quit shutting down like that. That's what I did and I haven't had it happen even once since. I think the CPU is just overclocked a bit much for the aftermarket battery to handle. Your tablet will run a bit cooler this way too.

thebadwrench said:
I had the exact same thing happening with mine after replacing the battery. Check your CPU clocking. If you're on a CM ROM it's probably overclocked & set to 1900MHz. If you set the governor to 1300MHz (which is the factory clocking speed, I think) it should quit shutting down like that. That's what I did and I haven't had it happen even once since. I think the CPU is just overclocked a bit much for the aftermarket battery to handle. Your tablet will run a bit cooler this way too.
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That's awesome. Trying it now. Thanks
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thebadwrench said:
I had the exact same thing happening with mine after replacing the battery. Check your CPU clocking. If you're on a CM ROM it's probably overclocked & set to 1900MHz. If you set the governor to 1300MHz (which is the factory clocking speed, I think) it should quit shutting down like that. That's what I did and I haven't had it happen even once since. I think the CPU is just overclocked a bit much for the aftermarket battery to handle. Your tablet will run a bit cooler this way too.
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I just replaced my battery as the tablet had become unusable. I found the same issue. Only happened once, I also found that I could only charge the device while off, I reseated the charging flex which seemed to correct the unable to charge while on. Now that I think about it, I was on a TW 4.4 rom rooted when it happened, I'll report back with findings.

I contacted Samsung support and they referred me to a distributor of official OEM Samsung parts. Ordered a battery last week. Unfortunately, delivery is in the 2 to 3 week timeframe, as it's coming from overseas. I will let you all know how replacement of it goes.

jak341 said:
I contacted Samsung support and they referred me to a distributor of official OEM Samsung parts. Ordered a battery last week. Unfortunately, delivery is in the 2 to 3 week timeframe, as it's coming from overseas. I will let you all know how replacement of it goes.
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If you want or need directions for replacing the battery, when I did mine about a month ago I posted a step by step guide for what to do along with pictures (just ignore the part about removing the charging port if your only doing the battery). Here's a link to it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66124495&postcount=13

Is my battery shot??

Hi,
Looking for a wee bit of guidance, from the experts here, prior to taking some drastic measures.
I've had my Z1C for just over 2 years (I just switched over to a sim only deal a couple of weeks ago). I'm quite happy with everything, and it still runs fine - apart from what appears to be a dodgy battery life. Battery has always been fine, until about the last month, when I noticed things becoming a bit funny.
Here's a screenshot of what happened yesterday, when I got home. I put my phone in my gym bag around 1930 (when the network went red), and then got home around 2200. When I got home, it was still in my gym bag, although would be connected to wifi. I went to bed kinda late at 0230 (ooops), and when I got it out my bag (I use it for my alarm), I was amazed to find it completely dead. Can anyone explain why it appeared to lose 50% of battery within a few minutes??
Should I do a factory reset?? Is the battery totally gone, and am I looking for a new phone??
Many thanks in advance!!
BB

bawbagg said:
Hi,
Looking for a wee bit of guidance, from the experts here, prior to taking some drastic measures.
I've had my Z1C for just over 2 years (I just switched over to a sim only deal a couple of weeks ago). I'm quite happy with everything, and it still runs fine - apart from what appears to be a dodgy battery life. Battery has always been fine, until about the last month, when I noticed things becoming a bit funny.
Here's a screenshot of what happened yesterday, when I got home. I put my phone in my gym bag around 1930 (when the network went red), and then got home around 2200. When I got home, it was still in my gym bag, although would be connected to wifi. I went to bed kinda late at 0230 (ooops), and when I got it out my bag (I use it for my alarm), I was amazed to find it completely dead. Can anyone explain why it appeared to lose 50% of battery within a few minutes??
Should I do a factory reset?? Is the battery totally gone, and am I looking for a new phone??
Many thanks in advance!!
BB
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Hard to say after only 1 time. Wait it out and see if it happens again, it could have been a fluke. It's fairly common - http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...ttery-reporting-phone-dying-suddenly-t3095120

levone1 said:
Hard to say after only 1 time. Wait it out and see if it happens again, it could have been a fluke. It's fairly common - http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...ttery-reporting-phone-dying-suddenly-t3095120
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@levone1, many thanks for the link. I'm not a frequent visitor here, and hadn't done a thorough search. That thread will be interesting reading.
BB

Just for anyone reading this - my phone is experiencing the same problems - shutting off with anywhere from 40-60% battery left. I've read through the thread linked above, and the only resolution is a replacement battery.
I've ordered a battery and replacement rear cover from www.replacebase.co.uk, which should arrive early next week. I'll do the fix and report back.
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bawbagg said:
I've ordered a battery and replacement rear cover from www.replacebase.co.uk, which should arrive early next week. I'll do the fix and report back.
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Battery and replacement rear cover arrived on Saturday morning - less than 48 hours after placing the order. I followed any one of the numerous videos on youtube showing phone dissassembly and battery replacement, and all went fine. Phone is like new now. You do have to carefully remove the NFC sticker and transplant it onto the new battery - make sure to line up the little pressure connectors.
Again, many thanks to @levone1 for his help.

Have you wiped your system battery stats file? Have you changed your ROM recently? If both questions have the answer "NO" - it is worth it to find some guides (here in XDA) for deleting the battery stats - it isn't guaranteed to actually notice any difference, but it is good to try (especially now, with the new battery)
I'm waiting for my replacement battery too as I suspect that my battery is going to be dead soon. It is heating up rapidly when the charge is below 20-15%.

same here. it lasts for past few months, persists thru rom variations (cm, aosp, stock) and sometimes gets better for a while but goes bad again. suddenly drops from anything above 50% to as low as about 20%, and then to zero & shut down in matter of minutes. back on charger it goes from zero to 100% in about 15 minutes, i guess my charger evolved overtime to extra quick one. lately the full charged battery doesn't lasts morning to afternoon with moderate usage. as the behaviour persists between roms and as there are no suspicious wakelocks either, i guess its hardware thing not fixable by wiping battery stats or similar mumbo-jumbo, so i replaced battery the other day and now the phone is perfectly fine again.
however, as there are a large (and growing) number of similar posts and same-looking screenshots all around, device is circa two years old, and minding that the battery isn't replaceable easily like "open the back cover and replace", it all looks like sony managed to put two-year batteries inside waterproof case that goes dead just by the end of usual user's contracts, so you could either go to service for replace or - yes you're right - buy a new device by the end of contract for us that aren't on the contract but we did unlock the bootloader the price of official-service is sky high because of unlocked bootloader, at least in my country. in the end it's all corporate math, pardon my conspiracy theory

Google "google play services 9.2.56 battery drain" and you see people with all sorts of phones and tablets having the same issues.*

Reliable battery replacement?

Has anyone found a reliable battery replacement? I haven't been able to find an authentic Samsung T8220e battery.. and the third party ones I've tried won't put out enough current (if I turn the brightness up, the tablet immediately shuts off). All the listings I've found so far on Amazon are 3rd party junk batteries.

I just bought a used p600 with a piece of junk Marval Power battery that only charged to 60%. I replaced it with a used OEM battery (at the time, there was only one shop on eBay selling used batteries) and it's working fine. I haven't used any apps to measure battery health yet, but it seems to be performing pretty equally to the three other p600s I've had over the last few years. It's probably up to luck, too (based on the condition of the tablet that the used battery was pulled from).
Hope this helps!

I just ordered a battery from mister-phone on eBay, instead of the pos replacement battery I have been using for a week, I hope the new one is original as advertised

please let us know how the mister phone battery works out. i have to get another battery after actually having some good luck for a while on an ebay purchase. but one side is swollen again and the battery is all over the place. thanks

So far it seems to be the real deal, it have the same markings and shape on the frame as the original, I'm still testing it, and it's way better than the cheap one.

I bought this one on amazon, and it appears to be working. My stress test is to play a game on full screen brightness and it instantly dies with the other lousy batteries. So far, so good... but it's oos. I would recommend buying a battery on amzon though for the easy returns if it doesn't work. Also, a kit with a decent spudger. I bought this one on Amazon that has a pretty good metal one with a decent selection of mini drivers.

I ended up buying one. Battery seems to work well except I can't get it to charge passed 80 or so no matter how long I leave it plugged in for. Other than that it works well. Restarts don't do anything. Anyone e have any ideas to reset the stats or something. I am at a loss. Thanks.

Stock or custom rom?

It's been a while since you posted this, but I just recently had to replace the battery in my SM-P600 when the original battery started puffing up. The only symptom was that home button was jiggly and loose, and I thought that the housing for that button was broken or something, and was looking into replacing the parts associated with that button when I pressed on the casing on either side of the button and everything clicked back into place and the button worked properly. I then noticed the screen was slightly bulging int he middle and realized it was the battery expanding.
Anyway, the assortment still available on Amazon has pretty bad reviews, so I gambled on a new listing that didn't have any reviews except the seller has been around for a while and is reviewed very well. Received the battery, replaced it, it took a while to charge up, but it holds a charge well and stress tests (full brightness with a taxing game) fine as well. I'm happy with it. Keeps my tablet alive for a little while longer (even though I don't use it much anymore since I got my 15" Chromebook that converts into a tablet).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L67LJMK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Incidentally, I also bought the same toolkit you mentioned and it's a really good one. I've used it disassemble four different devices now and it's worked well. Good toolkit for the price.