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Seems like a lot of people are facing problem waking up the phone resulting in getting black screen and nothing else.
I faced the same problem too that is why I decided to create a new thread specifically on this.
Let's share what caused our phone to go into coma based on our observations so that in time, the root of the problem can be traced.
Based on my observation, when my phone is left idle for some time, say 1-2hrs, it tends to become sluggish and setcpu will stuck at max or min value (Yes! sluggish even when stuck at max value!). Given long enough idle time, it will fail to wake up (e.g. every morning when i wake up after 7-8hrs of idle time).
I was using OpenDesire v4.0.10 and just changed to v4.0.15 to see if it still exist. I have setcpu set on 1075max 245min (ondemand) and 245max 245min (ondemand) when screen off. Also, using task manager.
Please share your observations and phone settings (ROM, versions, setcpu, task manager and others)
have you tried removing setcpu?
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have you tried removing setcpu?
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Nope, but in OpenDesire thread, people without setcpu experienced the same thing. Do you have such problem?
I noticed using setcpu does make the phone sluggish. when uninstalled problem was solved.
Installed undervolt & got better batt life.
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Perhaps, a more tailored topic title will help all readers understand what you're talking about.
However, HAVS kernels is the only common factor and SetCPU is not the cause.
And, my two cents, I don't think this issue deserves a dedicated thread since is specific to a single kernel flavor.
shai.bosse said:
I noticed using setcpu does make the phone sluggish. when uninstalled problem was solved.
Installed undervolt & got better batt life.
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what is this undervolt you talking about? mind elaborating a little?
@ngel said:
Perhaps, a more tailored topic title will help all readers understand what you're talking about.
However, HAVS kernels is the only common factor and SetCPU is not the cause.
And, my two cents, I don't think this issue deserves a dedicated thread since is specific to a single kernel flavor.
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I created a specific thread on this topic because there are many people out there experiencing this bug and there is no dedicate thread to discuss it. I assume you are not facing this problem because otherwise you would understand the pain and frustration of encountering this problem repeatedly
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what is this undervolt you talking about? mind elaborating a little?
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Undervolt is a kernel mod that you install and it lowers the cpu drain by setting it to use lower volt values on each cpu freq. This cause it to stay cooler too.
Look for it in this forum. [Kernel] undervolt
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I am suffering from this once per day on Defrost and OD so I suspect its kernal related. I am running the default HAVS kernel at the stock 998 frequency. I uninstalled SetCPU yesterday and had a lock this morning ( Defrost 4.1 ). The notification LED was flashing orange. So SetCPU is not causeing the problem. I have swapped over to SVS so I will report back on how that goes.
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Nope, but in OpenDesire thread, people without setcpu experienced the same thing. Do you have such problem?
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I use OpenDesire 4.0.10, then 4.0.15, then 4.0.16, each release for at least 3 days, and not for once have I encountered such "black death"....no setCPU of course.
Care to elaborate what apps you have there ?
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I created a specific thread on this topic because there are many people out there experiencing this bug and there is no dedicate thread to discuss it. I assume you are not facing this problem because otherwise you would understand the pain and frustration of encountering this problem repeatedly
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That issue is relative to OpenDesire and DeFroST ROMs only, and when they use a particular kernel version (HAVS) on selected CPUs, so I continue to think that it'll be eventually sorted out by the respective developers and/or Kali- and the kernel team; those guys do monitor the ROMs threads so they're already aware of the issue.
And yes, I suffered the issue twice, as I wrote more times in the DeFroST thread. "Pain" (panic?) and "frustration" sound a bit strange to me, when dealing with overclocked, custom, highly tweaked cooked ROMs. If a reboot scares you, head for a stock HTC ROM and you'll be fine.
I was worried I was the only one who had this. Thread title isn't that helpful for people seeking advice on it though. Get this after every reboot for about a minute until everything is back to normal.
Had the sluggish issue when using YouTube after about 20/30 mins, other than that I've had no lags.
Using 4.0.16
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I got this on a svs kernal, so its not just restricted to havs. I had 1300 svs installed. With setcpu. Done the same with 1267 svs.
I've also had this issue on SVS kernels, was also having a series of hard resets last night - have rolled back to an earlier version of my favourite ROM flavour for now.
Never experienced anything like that...Although there are times that my Desire's performance would remind me of the bad old Diamond days,where patience was a virtue(well,not a virtue,but a money saving method!throwing your phone to the wall with your full strength after it frustrates you with being slow is known to be a costly process! ).Seems to be some apps running in the background...Maybe if your phone recovers after it without a reboot you can check if any apps use a larger than normal amount of ram.Other than that...Well,god is almighty and people experiencing epiphanies are known to work wonders through the ages!
And something completely off-topic(sorry about that).When using an undervolted rom/kernel you are not able to overclock to values as high as when using a normal-volted(is the word right?I dunno...) rom/kernel,right?I mean,what would happen if someone tried to overclock to 1382MHz(I know,I like the limits) using an undervolted kernel?And finally,how does this all apply to the hardware?Does UV affect the CPU's health like overclocking or something like that?
Thanks a lot!
I've had it on OpenDesire 4.0.10 and 4.0.15 a few times. Stopped happening when I stopped using profiles and defaulted back to to 998/ondemand.
Will try running it on 998/interactive for a while and see what happens.
No lockups after SetCPU to ondemand. OD 4.0.15.
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Separate thread IS useful, otherwise replies get lost in ROM threads where the focus is not specifically on this problem.
I too had this issue three times. DeFroST on all occasions, versions 3.x iirc. Never tried the HAVS kernels, just plain default what is shipped with the ROM (SVS @ 12xx Mhz?). Also SetCPU'd it, have not yet bothered to try and turn that off yet. SetCPU keeps it at 995 Mhz max, interactive governor, while switching to powersave while asleep.
Issue happened twice while browsing (possibly with Flash ads on the page by accident) and the power state switching (i.e. turn the device off quickly while running for train, afterwards reading for 2 minutes again, etc). Third time it happened while tethering my internet connection to my laptop.
Hth
I had this problem few times a day when I upgraded OD to .10 and the new ADW on the same day.
Then I restore back the old OD with old ADW, then no problem.
Hi,
I've had my Archos G9 80 updated to the latest android official 4.0.5 from and since then i'm expriencing lots of crushes and freezes. I'm getting them randomly with no specific app working.
Also, i have tried to do full formats (Android + Data), and still having same issues.
Does anyone have any idea what else i can try?
Thanks.
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive".
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how this is done? Ι have the same problem!
africa_twin said:
how this is done? Ι have the same problem!
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Yes, can this be done from the phone itself? Within the ROM?
You can set this in any tool that is intended for overclocking. I don't overclock, I only changed the Govenor.
I use "SetCPU". ("No-frills CPU Control" should do the same.)
So does this have any other effects on the phone?
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So does this have any other effects on the phone?
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Nothing too serious. Your CPU is clocked dynamically so it doesn't run full speed when there is nothing to compute(save energy). To my understanding the govenor is basically a policy to manage how quickly the frequency steps up/down on changing CPU load. So "powersave" is supposed to save energy but make the system a little less reactive than "interactive" Governor for example. I think I read somewhere "hotplug" deactivates the second core on low load situations, I suspect for some strange reason my device might have crashed sometimes on trying to wake up the sleeping second core. Well maybe I'm wrong, that's why I'm interested if it helps others.
I didn't notice any change in battery lifetime, mostly it's the display anyway that drains the battery. Everything is running well, battery lifetime is great too and no crash/freeze at all since i changed that setting and it crashed almost every damn day before, no matter if it was Honeycomb or ICS.
I downgraded the device to 4.0.4 and since then, no crushes.. I guess for some reason 4.0.5 isn't stable on my device.. ill stick with this version unroll they get another one out..
To downgrade, just install official update file of the version you want to upgrade to..
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Nothing too serious. Your CPU is clocked dynamically so it doesn't run full speed when there is nothing to compute(save energy). To my understanding the govenor is basically a policy to manage how quickly the frequency steps up/down on changing CPU load. So "powersave" is supposed to save energy but make the system a little less reactive than "interactive" Governor for example. I think I read somewhere "hotplug" deactivates the second core on low load situations, I suspect for some strange reason my device might have crashed sometimes on trying to wake up the sleeping second core. Well maybe I'm wrong, that's why I'm interested if it helps others.
I didn't notice any change in battery lifetime, mostly it's the display anyway that drains the battery. Everything is running well, battery lifetime is great too and no crash/freeze at all since i changed that setting and it crashed almost every damn day before, no matter if it was Honeycomb or ICS.
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Thanks! And I have notices ICS is not as snappy as GB was... I mean GB flew! Swiping the screen, it feels a little off now.
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Thanks! And I have notices ICS is not as snappy as GB was... I mean GB flew! Swiping the screen, it feels a little off now.
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GB? Gingerbread? Guess you mean Honeycomb. Anyway, I experienced ICS to be much better.
DeeDroid said:
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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changing govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive" seems to help against random freezes. 4 days without problems until now i had freezes with ics, but never with honeycomb.
device: archos 101g9
[ROM] Archos ICS - Firmware 4.0.5(4.0.3) - ROOT & BUSYBOX , Only for SDE (thanks surdu_petru)
DeeDroid said:
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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That seems to be my problem too. Setcpu requires root. is there a very easy way to do this, just to run this setcpu? There used to be a z4 tool, but can't seem to find it anymore.
Edit I see that I need superoneclick. Will temporary root suffice or will I need permanent root to change the governor setting.and keep it so.
Unfortunately all know temp root variants tend to brake things- im Honeycomb sound, in ICS 3d driver.
The only real option is to enable SDE and use custom firmware.
As for freezes- try reinstalling apps. Direct upgrade from Honeycomb does not work for all
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GB? Gingerbread? Guess you mean Honeycomb. Anyway, I experienced ICS to be much better.
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I have the same experience. Hc was laggy and slow. Ics is much faster and smoother.
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gen_scheisskopf said:
Unfortunately all know temp root variants tend to brake things- im Honeycomb sound, in ICS 3d driver.
The only real option is to enable SDE and use custom firmware.
As for freezes- try reinstalling apps. Direct upgrade from Honeycomb does not work for all
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sorry for the n00b question, but SDE stands for ??? S ? Develeper Edition ?
Will "Superoneclick" not root my device ?
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sorry for the n00b question, but SDE stands for ??? S ? Develeper Edition ?
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Special Developer Edition
sbtwister said:
Will "Superoneclick" not root my device ?
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No, it won't. Gen9 system layout is different than for most other devices
hey, back to topic
5 days without freeze with govenor "interactive". i witched back to "hot plug" this morning and had to reboot my tablet 2 times today. for my case, "interactice" seems to help against random freezes.
mines performance intstead of interactive... experienced some freezing n interactive..
Man I'm really pissed.
Yesterday I had to hard reboot 7 times
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hmm,
sounds not good. archos stands not for high quality i guess. we get what we pay . i had an archos 101g8, now a 101g9 and trouble with hard-/firmwares since 2010. i think, this was the last one - no furthermore advantures
@IrishStuff09: you did reformat for ics or upgrade from honeycomb? the best way is to start from scratch and skip upgrades.
I'm running Albinoman's JB RC3 ROM, and like it a lot. The only significant problem I have is occasional severe sluggishness. When it happens, I'll open IntelliControl and I notice either of two things going on:
1) I'll see that the max CPU speed has been reset to 664000 or something close to that (it's always the same number, but I don't remember exactly what it is...600-something). Once I crank the max limit back up to 1036800, things are good again. What keeps resetting the CPU limit to such a low level, and how do I stop it from doing that???
2) I'll see that the CPU is maxed out at 1036800, but I can't figure out what's chewing up the CPU. What tool can I use to see what process is consuming all the CPU cycles when that happens?
Thanks for the help...
1. I can't tell you why it happens... but I know it is a common problem on the JB ROMs (on the Dinc). There was quite a lot of discussion about it. I know the devs are aware of the issue and were working on it.
2. I don't know of anything that will graph percentage of cpu cycles, or anything exactly like that. But try hooking the phone up to the PC and run ddms (part of the adb tool set) and see what it is doing (or failing to do). While ddms is running in verbose mode it will give you a running output of everything the phone is doing (along with all the errors and warnings).
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I'm running Albinoman's JB RC3 ROM, and like it a lot. The only significant problem I have is occasional severe sluggishness. When it happens, I'll open IntelliControl and I notice either of two things going on:
1) I'll see that the max CPU speed has been reset to 664000 or something close to that (it's always the same number, but I don't remember exactly what it is...600-something). Once I crank the max limit back up to 1036800, things are good again. What keeps resetting the CPU limit to such a low level, and how do I stop it from doing that???
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That's because he's using an older version of Evervolv's qsd8k-common. It was fixed on Oct 10 with Change I3a0fff83: powerHAL: fix the screen off bug. This is one of the reasons I do nightlys, is to get all the new tweaks. This bug won't be fixed in his ROM till he resyncs his source and recompiles. It's triggered by the screen turning off. There's a workaround with Tasker, but since this bug is no longer in my ROM, I quit looking at it.
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2) I'll see that the CPU is maxed out at 1036800, but I can't figure out what's chewing up the CPU. What tool can I use to see what process is consuming all the CPU cycles when that happens?
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CPUSpy is a pretty good app.
MysticCobra said:
I'm running Albinoman's JB RC3 ROM, and like it a lot. The only significant problem I have is occasional severe sluggishness. When it happens, I'll open IntelliControl and I notice either of two things going on:
1) I'll see that the max CPU speed has been reset to 664000 or something close to that (it's always the same number, but I don't remember exactly what it is...600-something). Once I crank the max limit back up to 1036800, things are good again. What keeps resetting the CPU limit to such a low level, and how do I stop it from doing that???
2) I'll see that the CPU is maxed out at 1036800, but I can't figure out what's chewing up the CPU. What tool can I use to see what process is consuming all the CPU cycles when that happens?
Thanks for the help...
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For #1, a possible fix could be to use this power.qsd8k.so provided by tiny4579:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32552961&postcount=264
Replacing this file fixed the issue on Pons's ROM, but it may wreak havoc on Albinoman's, I have no way to know. Make sure you have a good nandroid backup before attempting to use it. Or, just wait for Albinoman to release a newer ROM with the problem fixed in the source.
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For #1, a possible fix could be to use this power.qsd8k.so provided by tiny4579:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32552961&postcount=264
Replacing this file fixed the issue on Pons's ROM, but it may wreak havoc on Albinoman's, I have no way to know. Make sure you have a good nandroid backup before attempting to use it. Or, just wait for Albinoman to release a newer ROM with the problem fixed in the source.
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It should work fine on Albinoman's ROM. powerHAL is a generic jellybean feature and should work on all JB ROM's. You won't need the fix however on either of Pon's ROMs whether AOKP or CM10.
I'm finding the same issue on the 11/08 build. I replaced the file with the one you uploaded, yet no change. Still reverts to 614 when the screen is off.
I'm managing it with both Incredicontrol and Juicedefender, so on wake it returns to 1075, and the SAv2 seems much smoother than interactive for me. If there's a fix in the newer builds I may flash one (if I get the time), but for now I'm really impressed by how well this one is running.
Thanks,
...sorry...I was on the phone...
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I'm finding the same issue on the 11/08 build. I replaced the file with the one you uploaded, yet no change. Still reverts to 614 when the screen is off.
I'm managing it with both Incredicontrol and Juicedefender, so on wake it returns to 1075, and the SAv2 seems much smoother than interactive for me. If there's a fix in the newer builds I may flash one (if I get the time), but for now I'm really impressed by how well this one is running.
Thanks,
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It's supposed to change to 614 on screen off. The bug was that it would stick at 614 even on screen on.
I don't recommend that lib for cm. It's outdated.
Also I don't use sav2 anymore as it doesn't and won't implement project butter. Also interactive can be more aggressive than sav2 as it can jump frequency on touch via boostpulse which sav2 doesn't have.
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Oh, well, then I guess I'll give the interactive another try. Maybe just needs to settle in longer. Got so used to ICS, wasn't sure what to expect from JB. Guess it's time I read back a few pages and see what else I've missed.
...sorry...I was on the phone...
Thanks, guys--appreciate the help!
Maybe its out of topic but since i still cant post on dev sub forum i wanna ask a question here to pons.
Im running your CM10 20121114, whenever i play music with appolo it always reboot my dinc.
Is any other had this problem too?
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Maybe its out of topic but since i still cant post on dev sub forum i wanna ask a question here to pons.
Im running your CM10 20121114, whenever i play music with appolo it always reboot my dinc.
Is any other had this problem too?
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Yep, just a tad bit off topic.
I haven't had this problem before. Granted, I've never played music off my Inc, but I haven't heard anyone else complain, either. Can you PM a logcat? And it's always preferable to report errors off latest versions (currently 1120).
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Yep, just a tad bit off topic.
I haven't had this problem before. Granted, I've never played music off my Inc, but I haven't heard anyone else complain, either. Can you PM a logcat? And it's always preferable to report errors off latest versions (currently 1120).
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Thanks for the reply Pons. Yes i think i will download the latest build sooner and test it again. Hope it (randon reboot with apollo) will not happen again on my dinc. But if it still, i will pm you the logcat.
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Thanks for the reply Pons. Yes i think i will download the latest build sooner and test it again. Hope it (randon reboot with apollo) will not happen again on my dinc. But if it still, i will pm you the logcat.
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I use Apollo Music regularly on Pons's CM10, it works fine, doesn't reboot.
alph0 said:
Maybe its out of topic but since i still cant post on dev sub forum i wanna ask a question here to pons.
Im running your CM10 20121114, whenever i play music with appolo it always reboot my dinc.
Is any other had this problem too?
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Try flashing to his newest build. It fixed a few problems for me and is incredibly fast. I had to reflash gapps from goo.im though because play store was force closing. Also, doubletwist is a better music player imo because it has a better interface and has good integration with the lockscreen.
My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!
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My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!
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You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Very helpful...
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You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Not exactly understand...
There must be a safe setting for it as with Perseus kernel the thresholds are higher, but not too much. I forgot to edit my question according my experiences with Perseus.
At least with Perseus I get a max of 1000MHz at most cases but it is not enough for me cause I use apps needing high resources.
Would You be so kind to write about the value to be changed in order to get higher thresholds?
If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
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If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
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Thank You for the advice!
Now I had some time so I'm on Saber kernel and just testing.
The testing is awesome till now: the phone is working more powerful with this kernel and doesn't get hot so soon. :good:
Oh, now there is something strange, the programs get FC-s...
The phone is on charger, I ran AutoGuard in the background in FullHD, Sygic and Waze in MultiWindow, VideoPlayer in popup with a FullHD video and SuperPlayer in popup with another FullHD video. It was extremely fine but after a few minutes the players collapsed and AutoGuard had an error. The system is stable anyway. It seems I have to restart phone now...
Edit: After restart I got an old problem back: Dropbox is unable to run again... I loved Perseus because of this, on Perseus this problem was away... I hope that I won't get the other issue back with my WiFi... And it seems, AutoGuard became stupid too... :crying:
I don't give up and keep on trying to make them ok.
But I can't find the thermal control feature in Trickster Mod Donation altough I have just a minute for it.
I am reading Trickster webpage to get ahead...
Question: Are You using Jedi ROM and have no thermal problems?
In that case I'm going to try that ROM, cause I'm on hunting for a ROM that works with no problems for me.
I tried some lately and till now Omega v18 was the best amongst them. I tried MIUI, ProBam, Hawkish in the last days and I get problems with all of them or had non-working applications and/or features which ones are essentials for me...
Edit: mmmmmmmm, as see there is no Jedi ROM for international N7100...
hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.
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hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.
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Thank You for Your effort!
I'll keep on investigating for a solution.
Unfortunately the real test was horrible with Saber kernel, when I tested it in car the temperature got high soon and the thersholds were low again.
But it's a good idea to try o/c thank You very much!
I'll try it tomorrow, now I have to go to play Cod4... :laugh:
And I found that TWRP is recommended for Saber and a few minutes untouching after the restart so I'll try again.
Have a nice day!
you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod
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you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod
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Thank You again!
I got some experiences with the newest Saber kernel and I like it 'cause the first kernel I can use 100MHz step with and using 300MHz step too.
It seemes to be good at battery consumption too. My only problem that this kernel doesn't support STweaks so I can't regulate charging voltages like I used to. Perhaps only Perseus kernel makes it possible as I can't get any other programs for it till now. Or NEAK kernel and the new versions of AGNi pureSTOCK kernel as I read their pages. I'll try them some day. But Perseus is my favourite.
I think it's important to say that the kernel isn't UC/OC by default so this doesn't make any problems and it's not UV-ed too.
I set min. to 100MHz and max. to 1920MHz to test and it's stable till now. I tried to Overvolt slightly and had no change on media programs behavior they don't like each other as I see.
Trickster Mod is nice 'cause it shows the CPU temperature which was helpful to understand this regulations of thermal control are needed.
When I tested it turned out that CPU is below 70 degrees while the battery temparuture is 'only' about 40 degrees.
So thanks for Your kind advises!
wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?
3vo3d said:
wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?
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No, I didn't overvolt at last. But once I tried and didn't helped on my problems.
Unfortunately now I'm back on Perseus kernel again 'cause some issues with Saber. It became crazy every time and locked my CPU on 160MHz only and only reboot helped.
The other issue was the stuck system server process what was active all night and didn't stop hard work.
Now I'm on reading the kernel's page till I get cleverer on it... then I perhaps try it again 'cause I liked it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260397&page=5
Here is updated Thermanager, which could be flashed in recovery. I have made some changes after I played Asphalt game for about one hour. With this update, on performance governor the temperature never went higher than 58. And we are talking 1 hour straight. I doubt you can have that on stock. What was interesting that performance governor produced less heat than interactive, which supports my claim that when cpu jumps frequencies, it creates additional overhead.
Now, regarding myths and fiction about stock rom not overheating. There are some dudes on this forum who complain that their Z1 overheats to 70+ on custom roms when they play their beloved games; on stock, they say, there is no overheating.
Here is a short answer. You, guys, don't know what you are talking about.
Custom roms (and custom kernels) give you tools that are not available in stock. You just have to learn how to read/use them. Here is one example: some roms allow you to have internal cpu temperature on screen. Now that you have it, you watch. When it hits 70, you panic, but if you touch the back door, it will be barely warm. So, when you are on stock and without temperature reading, you think your phone is not overheating, while it can still have 65-70.
I used a modified version of M5 kernel compiled with GCC 5.2.1 Ubertc; CPU at 2457; performance governor, inteliplug balance with touch boost disabled; GPU overclocked to 600 with msm-adreno-tz idle wait 30 and workload 3; swapiness 10; enthropy 1024 read/write. That was on DU rom, but I bet the result would be the same on Jaguar and some other custom roms.
lol, that dude is Me, and I will try this, in the stock rom I can see an process running as overheat manager or something, I think it might have to do something with it. I'm sure that my device got heated very much, I didn't meant to offense but you seems to got it wrong. btw I will try this. I use Jaguar atm.
Thanks
I don't think that my phone won't reach 60 C on stock, but I like watching YouTube, so I can see how fast it warms. (I have xposed module that shows me cpu temp even on stock). And as much as I can say my phone warms faster on custom roms than on stock. No matter what governor I use.
Also all animations (like status bar showing) are kind of laggy on custom roms. I don't know it it got better in past 2 months, but last time I used custom rom my phone reached 50C even only with chrome.
Interesting thing is that this all (including animations) is not present on 3.10 kernel, but there are no usable roms at the moment with 3.10 kernel, so I have to use stock.
SuperLamic said:
I don't think that my phone won't reach 60 C on stock, but I like watching YouTube, so I can see how fast it warms. (I have xposed module that shows me cpu temp even on stock). And as much as I can say my phone warms faster on custom roms than on stock. No matter what governor I use.
Also all animations (like status bar showing) are kind of laggy on custom roms. I don't know it it got better in past 2 months, but last time I used custom rom my phone reached 50C even only with chrome.
Interesting thing is that this all (including animations) is not present on 3.10 kernel, but there are no usable roms at the moment with 3.10 kernel, so I have to use stock.
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So, what's the temperature your xposed module shows on stock under stress?
optimumpro said:
So, what's the temperature your xposed module shows on stock under stress?
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Usually after 20-30 minutes of YouTube it's around 53-54°C
SuperLamic said:
Usually after 20-30 minutes of YouTube it's around 53-54°C
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Which browser or is it a youtube app? I have similar temps on Firefox and about 44-48 when using Chromium (not chrome).
ScatteredHell said:
lol, that dude is Me, and I will try this, in the stock rom I can see an process running as overheat manager or something, I think it might have to do something with it. I'm sure that my device got heated very much, I didn't meant to offense but you seems to got it wrong. btw I will try this. I use Jaguar atm.
Thanks
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Overheat manager: whatever it is, all it does is throttling and thermanager does the same on custom roms. So, the trick is to throttle enough without you noticing any lags...
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Which browser or is it a youtube app? I have similar temps on Firefox and about 44-48 when using Chromium (not chrome).
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It's a YouTube app. Really? It's weird, maybe I'll try, but I can see the difference on battery time when I come home from school - on stock I have ~70% and on custom roms I have ~50. Anyway I'll try and report after few days.
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
SuperLamic said:
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
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OK. Nice to hear that about battery life and overheating. With regard to lagging: it is not cpu, but rather animations. Either disable them completely in developer options or in DU you can go to tweaks and pick and choose whatever animation you want. I just disable all animations and have absolutely no lag.
SuperLamic said:
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
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Oddly enough, I find custom ROMs hae smoother animations than stock, in my phone. But I don't have good battery life when compared to stock..