[Q] Handsfree dialing with Bluetooth - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First a disclaimer: I have searched for this quite a bit, but with software updates happening so quickly, and so many different roms out there its hard to find a conclusive answer, and different people have different needs, and with my searching at least, I have not found the answer to my specific question.
So I'm new to the Android thing, coming off a Blackberry 9700. I'm trying to figure out this whol voice dialing thing, and the only conclusion I can come to, is they based this on 1980's voice dialing software. I should mention Its rooted running CM6.
So here's the problem. I want to just push the button on my BT headset like I would with my Previous BB, HTC touch or even Samsung a920 an say "call bob". If the message was not heard, or if there is more than one Bob, I want it to say something along the lines of either "say again" or "did you mean "bob smith" or "call bob mobile or office" at which point it waits for my response and then dials.
What happens is I say "call bob". If it doesn't understand it just gives an error at which point I have to hit cancel on the phone, push the BT button once to close the connection, then again to try again. If at that point it registers, it then gives me a list of close matches with which I have to choose the correct option on the phone. What else I don't want it to do (Which it is doing quite a bit) is just randomly start to dial a string of 10 digit numbers that sound nothing like "Bob".
I can't imagine that with all of Android's/Froyo's advancements on the smartphone front that they would neglect something so important. Especially with all the new hands free laws coming into effect.
So to make a long story short, does the HTC desire/Android/Froyo/CM6 have true totally handsfree dialing? In other words can I dial a contact from my bluetooth headset without ever having to touch my phone? What am I missing here?

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Answer Machine Software

Hi
Quite a while ago i had software on my Symbian OS Nokia that worked as an answer machine. It was great. I have had no luck finding one for the Pocket PC. Has anyone seen one about.
Some key advantages included:
No cost for reteiving messages from the network
Quick access to messages
Multiple answer recording depending on caller and situation ie friend calls answer 'hi man in a meeting leave a message' vs business caller 'Sorry i am in a meeting at moment...'
I have found a couple that uses sms to reply but none that actually record the voice.
Any ideas?
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Do Not Disturb 3.3 ppc site - http://www.jgui.net/index3.html
Shareware $9.95
link - http://www.hpc.ru/soft/download.phtml?id=10879 - wait 5 sec for downloading
Im sorry, I might not have explained my self. I'm after software that will do voicemail. I want to take a voice recorded message from the caller rather than have it diverted to my network voicemail.
I like the sms idea though and I'm sure the 2 applications could be integrated etc.
Hi
I have been doing a lot of investigation into this subject as i think its a neat idea. I know it has been asked many many many times before in this forum as i have dredged deep into the archives so I'm just wanting to share some info as to what i have found and find out if there have been any new developments since the last relivant posts a few months ago.
I have found this software i used to use called smartanswer for a symbian nokia
http://www.symbianware.com/product.php?id=sanswer60&pl=n6600
So i know it is possible on a similar system but different OS. I haven't managed to found any real reason for it not being able to be done on a pocket pc yet although I'm sure there is a reason or else it would have been created several times over already.
Anyway its just my small blabber wasting time in my lunch break.
phatbloke:
I've been asked about this numerous times, and you say that you've found no good reason why it's not happened yet:
Basically, as I understand it, and I know next to nothing about this area, but basically, the Phone PocketPC is just a pocketpc with an entirely seperate piece of hardware for the phone. The two are independant.
Inorder to control the "phone", the pocketpc comunicates with it through a COM port, sending commands to start calls, data connections etc. However, as I understand it, we have no direct means to access the audio/in out. So, although this is bog standard on many intelligent phones, the pocketpc was never designed around phone hardware, but merely slapped on piggyback.
Being able to record the calls is obviously essential to the answering machine. Some of the clever boys on this site have said that this is impossible or unlikely until we reverse engineer the drivers, and this hasn't happened yet AFAIK. Again, if this is all ball-ocks then someone please correct.
I can monitor missed calls, hangup incoming calls, log all that and so on, but spooling audio in and playing something down the line evades us for now.
Look here towards the end for discussion and futile ideas I had:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20691&highlight=
and here if you're Italian:
http://www.ppcvideo.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=8954&st=0
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PS if you follow the first thread, someone mentioned that Resco Sound recorder can record both in and outgoing audio on calls. Can you try that software? If that works, it might be possible. But I've seen no verification and don't have the opportunity to check it myself.
Hi all,
I am understanding; Microsoft don't publish some "sensitive" APIs like recording audio from downlink, etc. ..... I am Symbian Software Engineer; That is everyday life for me.
So, while using Symbian, you have the possibility to make requests to Symbian or Nokia for getting access to their internal API. We do that several times... perhaps for muting microphone, GSM trace information, etc. Exists there a business case to get access to Microsofts internal API?
A contact will be very helpfully!
Thanks a lot!
Br
Adrian
Hi!
I need help for voice cal recording - automatic voice answering.
I want to find b u s i n e s s partner in this field.
Sincerily,
Leo
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks

Issues with 6.5 ROM

Hi,
since I upgraded my TP2 ROM with the WinMo6.5 from HTC I encountered two issues which really make me regret this from time to time:
On incoming calls very often the caller name is not displayed even if the phone number is known in my address book. Also in call history i just see numbers, not names. This worked perfectly in 6.0.
When I receive a call, i press "take call" but the phone simply wont take it. Instead it silences the ringtone but there is no chance I take the call.
I searched the forum but couldn't find anything that would help. There was some registry entry about setting the size of phone numbers which should fix problem one, but the issue here is, that German phone numbers don't have any fixed size, so the suggested fix is not working. Also I'd wonder why I have to set something up when just the same thing worked perfectly in 6.0. As for the more annoying "can't take call" thingy, i am absolutely clueless. Has anyone of you encountered these issues before and if so, were you able to fix them?
I can't find the link readily but I thought I remember reading that adding (or removing) the "+" in front of phone numbers in your contacts helped the first issue.

Major need for speed dial

I know there is probably an app for that.
But I mean speed dial. I want to open the phone app (which, in my scenario, defaults to the keypad), and long-press a number to quick-dial someone.
My boss can go from "we need to call x", to actually dialing on his blackberry in about 1.5 seconds.
I have to unlock, wait for the screen to actually respond (since it freezes for that half second after unlocking), hit the people tile, hit the "work" group, find the contact, tap it. Then tap "call".
I could pin that group to the main page, yes. But that's beside the point.
My old windows mobile device had 99 spots for speed dial numbers. Please Microsoft. Just let us speed dial.
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While I'm on this, there should be a more business-friendly setup available. In my "work" group, I don't care "what's new" or what pictures they've uploaded to facebook.
You can also voice command "call xxx" via lock screen (if enabled) or even bluetooth without touching the phone (on windows phone).
I used a blackberry for years, and as phones they are amazing. I have yet to see any touchscreen phone than is as quick for things such as calling (without voice) as a BB. Its very efficient at that. Dedicated call/end buttons are always nice as well.
But yes, we do need smart dialing. Vote for it here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...s/suggestions/2281390-smart-dailing?ref=title
There are indeed plenty of apps for that
Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
angler said:
Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
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Not possible as of yet.
The best dialer I've found on the Marketplace so far is 7Dialer. It doesn't quite have a speed dial function, but you can pin contacts to the dialer, making calls and texts just a swipe and a tap away. Very quick. And it looks very nice (conforms to Metro and the native dialer). Also has the smart dial/search functionality so you can hit some numbers to narrow people for fast searching.
But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
nicksti said:
But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
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Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
prjkthack said:
Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
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The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
TIP - Pin a User Group for quick access.
FiyaFleye said:
Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
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Creating a group and pinning it is probably a better option though. Once the group is pinned, you tap the group, and see just those in the group. Then tap the contact from the group. Then select the number.
That way you don't need to add a tile for every speed dial contact.
It's 1 more tap than the old speed dial. Press phone. Press number. Press talk. Or was it press and hold number. Or was it press first digit and press and hold next digit. I think depending on the phone, it was all of these in the past.
This. Tap group. Tap Contact. Tap communication method.
With speed dial you needed to memorize what number you saved them under. This lets you know with out memorizing a number who you are going to call and how.
I wouldn't be surprised if they add smart dialing in the future. Maybe with Apollo. It is one of those efficient, productivity issues that should be a given with any smartphone imo.
I shall be surprised Microsoft will implement press and hold number digit to speed dial a phone number for WP. Microsoft think in a different way to dial most-used phone number in such a way to pin that contact as the live tile. There is no application around currently work as previous smart phone saying Anna or Belle. Apple also did not implement such kind of speed dial but a favourite in a tab of the iphone native phone dialer. I am used to the press and hold number speed dial despite I have to memorize which phone contact is set of which number digit.
RoboDad said:
The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
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Most of the time, its purely personal preference. And very rarely these days do I see people using "old fashioned speed dial" as it used to be pre-smartphone. Our smartphones are much smarter than having to hold down a single physical button to call someone (and thus, more complicated).
You throw the same concept onto a smartphone and you don't get the same result. You press the power button, swipe/pinch/tap/slide/triple-tap/whatever/dance/smile/sing/talk to make the lockscreen go away, tap the phone/dialer application, bring up the dial pad if its not automatically displayed, and THEN finally hold down a single digital digit to make it dial someone. This is not speed dial. The problem doesn't exist because speed dial the way we know it does not exist on a smartphone. You've got some shortcuts and apps and methods to make dialing easier, but there is no real speed dial on a smartphone.
Every phone has a different way of doing it, if it even has such functionality to begin with.
I didn't say that the "metro way" was more or less efficient than any other speed dial method on a smartphone, but it does follow Microsoft's whole people-first/social methodology instead of trying to emulate the function of a hardware button that simply does not work the same way on a smartphone. Microsoft didn't just copy everyone and throw the speed dial thing in there for the sake of it. Neither was the change/push to make your favorite things a pinned live tile(s) a change for its own sake. It has a purpose, and as a people-centric/social platform, that purpose is to bring your phone to life. Your contact is more than just a number you hold down and press. And yes, everyone may not like it, but to really appreciate this platform is to understand why Microsoft made certain things work the way they do and why Microsoft said hey, "If we really want people to buy into this whole live tile thing, we've gotta push it hard and show people that there are different ways to send and get information, and yes, even a different way of making a phone call." That they probably left a lot of old, tired and standard ideas on the chopping block because they believe in their platform and in how they designed their software, and that just adding speed dial to make that small percentage of people who still use it happy shows neither faith in what they originally set out to do nor faith in their ideas and concepts.
Certainly not change for the sake of it. Its because Windows Phone 7's sole purpose was change. This has been their whole spiel all along - to be different. And certainly some people won't like it, and that's fine, maybe Windows Phone 7 isn't for you. But if you can take a step back and look at some of things that Microsoft has done with the platform, to surface information and to bring things to life, I'm sure most people will clearly see that the method that they have chosen for their own platform exemplifies and brings out the best qualities and features of the platform, and fits perfectly into putting people first. That there is more than just one way to speed dial a contact yet still get more out of it than just a phone call at the same time.
Take some time and embrace how Windows Phone thinks you can do and accomplish things, and if you don't like it, then hey, Android and iOS are still out there. No harm done.
Also, there are only so many digits you can assign speed dial to, so unless you really just like everything, then you probably won't run into an issue of having too many tiles on your Start screen. The same issue presents itself on any other platform as well. You can have 100s of app icons on iOS, or 100s of widgets on your 100 Android home screens. Take your pick.
I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
TIP on dialing from history
Marvin_S said:
I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
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Actually, from history, if instead of tapping the name, you tap the phone icon to the left of the name, it will immediately dial the number last used for that contact.
Not exactly what you are asking for but if you press a number followed by a # in the dialer, it will show you the contact phone associated with it and the option to call it. The hard thing would be to find which is the number associated with the phone number of your interest.
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HELP-NEED A DEV- Bluetooth Voice Commands/Dock Audio Out

PLEASE, help me. I've looked around and only found a couple of post within threads that specifically target these two issues. Most people are concerned about voice dialing over bluetooth which is answered by several apps, Voice Command included. But, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have been frustrated by or are curious about this:
It seems REALLY dumb of Samsung to disable or remove the ability for bluetooth voice input in stock apps. I know there's Voice Command, but I have 2 problems with that - 1. it just kinda totally sucks, IMHO; 2. If you launch something like Google Navigation, but it or you get the address wrong, you cannot use voice commands to input the new address within the application, you have to back out an try again. If I tell it to navigate to "Alewife Station" and Navigation comes back with a list of wrong guesses, I have to back out. Also, no voice-to-text once you are in your messaging app. It's fine for the initial message out, but not your reply if the app is open. No 3rd party voice assistant apps. No Google search outside of Voice Command. Essentially, no bluetooth voice input outside of their precious little app that is not as all inclusive as they'd like to make it seem.
My second gripe is using the audio out for only media/notifications, but not phone calls. The audio quality is markedly better when using the audio out on the car dock verses an FM transmitter, especially in the city where it's hard to find an open frequency. But if I receive a phone call while docked the audio switches to the phone's speakerphone. And even with a bluetooth paired it takes the input from the phone (the mic is blocked by the dock) WTF?! So I have to dismount my phone (which is illegal in some states) or fumble through the menus to turn off the audio out setting, then switch my radio to FM and hope I'm in a clear area, just to take/make a call? So much for 'eyes on the road'.
These two decisions seem counter intuitive and odd oversights for a flagship smartphone.
ANY suggestions or solutions are welcome. If you'd like to build an app to address one or both of these issues, I'll test it all day on my phone (that's why I pay $8/month for insurance) and support your development time. I'm sure many, many people would be happy to have this function.
Sorry about the rant, but the fact that this is not a standard function irks me.
I agree. I hate the voice command bull. It never calls the correct person. I say call Ted and it calls pat. I hate that program. And as far as I could tell the only way to get rid of it is if you rename another app and push it to the System folder.
I just want Google voice search over Bluetooth.
No ideas? Please? Anyone?

Voice dial with Android 10 head unit?

Just purchased a new Android 10 head unit for my jeep. I'm pretty happy with it except that there is no way to do hands-free dialing. (I can set it to auto-answer incoming calls)
I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro - and as some of you know, Google Smart Lock / Trusted Agents is disabled on Xiaomi devices, and only Xiaomi brand Bluetooth devices can keep the phone from locking.
So even if I bypass the head unit and say to my phone "OK Google, Call Bob Smith", I still have to reach over and unlock my phone for the call to actually go through, or hope face recognition works at that moment.
The new head unit connects to my phone, has my contact list, and I can make calls from my phone with it via Bluetooth even when the phone is locked. But I have to scroll through my contacts or search for the name by typing it in on the head unit.
So I'm looking for a way to initiate a hands-free call.... obviously it's the law right now so it's something that should be do-able.
Thanks for any help!
https://www.amazon.com/Multimedia-N...eywords=android+10+jeep&qid=1603736598&sr=8-9
I am interested to know if you ever got this sorted. I have the same question. Clicking the microphone icon brings up a Google voice command screen of some sort which recognises a command to "Call <Name>" but responds with "I can't make calls yet.".
I'm not sure what is listening to the voice command if that is OK Google, Google Assistant or something else.
Feel like I might need to install something else to replace the BT dialler or at least find some configuration setting I haven't found yet...

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