What do you use, Gmail or HTC Mail? - Desire General

Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
What about you?

Somehow I always get 2 notifications (one gmail and one from the htc widget) eventhough I only want the htc one

I use HTC Mail because I think it's much better... especially since I have my hotmail & yahoo mail accounts configured in HTC mail... Another thing I like with HTC mail is that I can go back and read mails offline when I'm not connected to wifi since I don't have an unlimited data plan atm.
Some other things that makes HTC mail better is pinch to zoom, choose between regular or threaded email and much better handling copy / paste / stuff, even though it's implemented in gmail now it's nowhere as good as in HTC mail where selecting text works like a dream.

I use HTC Mail. I like the fact that I can read emails offline. Gmail used to have issues with opening attachments when it was on Eclair but the latest OTA seems to have addressed this issue.

Gmail app for me lol couldn't get on with HTCs mail app

really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)

i use k-9 to have push mail for all accounts.

Dragooon123 said:
Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
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Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...

I use HTC Mail for my gmail account using exchange active sync and push, also pretty much just because of the widget. I have noticed that bug with attachments but it doesn't really affect me much.

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k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail

meo said:
k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail
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Maybe yes, also ProfiMail seems to be very popular under the "Pro-Users". But i wonder if there will ever be a MailClient with proper GMail/Exchange support AND a usable UI that doesnt look like Windows CE...

Htc mail app. There is widget and push that is all in need.... Somehow attachments are fine for me now could this be latest update?
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Yahoo mail for android, only for yahoo obviously but messages are pushed instantly & when i delete mail its actually deleted, i found with htc mail it would only delete it from my phone, when i signed in online mail was still there.
Sent from my HTC Desire runing Android 2.2 via the XDA App

I had problems with HTC mail, and it used to send 2 mails everytime I send one.
So switched to Gmail app and Yahoo mail for Android app as they both push the mails. Also any deleted mails will be synchronised and removed from the actual accounts.
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HTC Desire still on 2.1

I have disabled Gmail because HTC mail can integrate any mail accounts I use. These include, but aren't limited to Gmail, Exchange and my service provider's primary mail account.
I used to have the Gmail App active as well, but I got really annoyed by the notifications that would pop up two times for my Gmail account. Last but not least I simply like HTC's interface choices, they fit much better into the big picture.

elburna said:
Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...
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Attachments work fine for me.

phentex said:
really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)
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Doesn't both got push mail? The HTC Mail does and when I used Gmail it behaved as if it had push mail(Which I believe it does).

Ive been using Both together. Gmail for my personal account and HTC Mail to manage my Exchange Server account for work. Both push and I only get individual notifications, each with their own icon. It works perfectly so I am a bit confused as to what may be causing others issues.

Gmail app for Gmail and HTC Mail for the MS Exchange server. I like the labels support in the Google app but the HTC app is much prettier and more fun to use.
The Gmail interface is very efficient for dealing with lots of email. Faster than the webpage on a desktop, dare I say

Dragooon123 said:
Attachments work fine for me.
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Hmm thats strange. Have been searching for a solution for this for ever. But the second time i try to open attachements the App always says it's corrupt... and many other Users are reporting this... would you mind posting your settings...?
Thx

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Synchronizing

Hello
Tomorrow i'm getting my HTC desire.
I actually want to know what are good programs to synchronize.
I only need an agenda and my hotmail.
Any idea's?
Thanks
It is very good, coming from WinMo, it is really awesome.
I added my Gmail (Calendar, Email, Contacts), and Facebook, plus it syncs weather, stocks etc. with the click of a button
Yea I know but you can't use your hotmail account in Gmail right?
Or am I wrong?
you can set up your gmail to receive your hotmail, create a gmail account then go to settings>accounts, itll receive your hotmail but gets it about 15 minutes later.
Or, you can go onto the normal mail account on the desire which is very good, insert your email address and password and itll configure everything, you can set it how often to check for new emails. Takes 2 seconds
aah sorry, Steve is right. I find it easier to have them all linked through my gmail personally.
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OK Steve but can I still check my mail on my normal pc?
And what about an agenda?
OK Steve but can I still check my mail on my normal pc?
And what about an agenda?
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It depends how you set it up for which account they go to, but yes you will.
And yes there is an agenda view, its pretty cool cause you get a widget as well as the view in the actual calendar app.
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you can use either method for your email, i use gmail to read my personal hotmail account because i prefer the web version. You can log onto the standard hotmail or your gmail account and view the emails, so thats down to preference.
For the agenda, i find google calendar to be the best, however, if you are using outlook, you can download google sync, (just search it), it will upload all your calendar details to google calendar and keep it in sync, that way, you have the best calendar application on your android phone, and it will work with your sense agenda widgets.
hope all that makes sense, its all seemless once set up
Finally got my Desire..
It's a really nice phone..
I don't use outlook, just go to hotmail.com and check my mails..
I just used the normal mail account on the Desire and it works great but now I still need an agenda. When I try to use HTC Synch it always says that I need to use Outlook..
Is that correct or are there other sollutions?
What is the best agenda, the 1 of HTC or the 1 of Android?

problem sharing URL with gmail

If you click and hold on the address bar in the browser you get the option to share a URL. choose this and then choose to share via GMAIL. it sends fine. however, the mail never gets delivered. Not until you actually go into your gmail app and refresh. Then the mail gets sent/delivered. If you choose to send a link using the MAIL application (hotmail for example) it sends immediately. Is this a HTC problem or a gmail app issue? anyone notice this? I would prefer to share URLs via gmail, but hotmail works and gmail doesn't. not properly anyway.
I've just tried this and it works fine for me - shared a URL via Gmail and it got delivered fine without having to go into Gmail.
Regards,
Dave
Ok I figured this out.
If you click and hold on the browser address bar to share a page, you can share via peep, facebook, gmail, mail, message, etc.
If you choose HTC MAIL widget (usually set up with exchnage or hotmail) it will send out the mail immediatley.
If you choose to use gmail to share the page it gets sent correctly, but it will just sit in your gmail outbox until you either open the gmail app and refresh, or else turn on the sync. Using the HTC MAIL widget does not require you to turn on sync. It just gets sent. Gmail needs the sync turned on to send the mail.
Not a big deal, but it means I'm more likley to use hotmail to share url links via email now, because its quicker, instant, and does not require me to enable sync which is great. I don't need to pull in weather, friendstream, gmail, and everything else. I can just hit "share via mail" send. done.
I guess its a gmail app problem.
mcgon1979 said:
I guess its a gmail app problem.
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If you have sync turned off, it's a problem with the user, not the app!
Regards,
Dave
haha. fair enough Dave.
yeah I suppose I incorrectly expected it to work without sync turned on becuase the hotmail (htc mail widget) does. No biggy.
cheers for the replies.
mcgon1979 said:
haha. fair enough Dave.
yeah I suppose I incorrectly expected it to work without sync turned on becuase the hotmail (htc mail widget) does. No biggy.
cheers for the replies.
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One question though - why do you have sync disabled? If you don't want to sync everything (e.g. twitter/weather), just switch off those individually or change the schedule of those items to something more appropriate.
Regards,
Dave
I suppose the reason I don't normally have sync on is that I used to just do everything manually. i.e. just refresh the weather manually if I looked at it. Or refresh friendstream manually as I looked at it. Or open gmail if I wanted to check it etc. I suppose its a habit to save battery life, but I'll look into it now that you mention it, and maybe just set these things to update once per day etc. Then I can override that manually for each service as required, plus gmail would send instantly if I do it that way. Cheers, I'll have a look at doing that.

Push Email client

Hi,
Does the email client on the android device is push client,i have an yahoo acoount, i think it does not have push client.
Yeah I wish.
It seems blackberries are the only ones with PUSH from other providers. Plus the built in both GMAIL and MAIL apps confuse the **** out of me and make my desire less desirable.
Try seven beta version, its not in the market place and u need to register online but its free and its really good. Just Google seven Android.
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You need a mail client which supports IMAP idle. Most people recommend K-9 Mail.
The Gmail application supports push mail but can only be used with gmail accounts. The HTC mail application also supports push mail but only for exchange accounts, not IMAP.
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
khr0n0s said:
That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
Lennyuk said:
well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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The checking time on Google's mail fetcher service is dynamic. If you generally only receive a few mails per day then it will only check a few times per day. In Google's own words,
"Gmail checks individual accounts for new messages at different rates, depending on previous mail fetch attempts. At this time you can’t customize the frequency of automatic mail fetches."
I use POP mail and don't find any great difference in battery drain with it on or off. I understand that this could be an issue for the more battery anal though. I think the real benefit of your method is bandwidth. Polling every 5 or 10 minutes can quickly eat in to a monthly data allowance. This is significant to those who only get a few MB every month. Going through Google's push mail service is a much more bandwidth efficient method.
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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Yeah i have done that, and i hardly ever receive an email, before that i just check my yahoo.
I have downloaded k-9 mail, hope it does the job.
I never got on with K9 myself.
I get emails all the time with gmail handling all my accounts every 10-15 minutes, oh well each to their own.
Too bad I cannot POP my yahoo with gmail... the asia trick doesn't work anymore.
If anyone does have a method (not upgrading to mail plus ), please share it!
I just had a play with K9 and comparing it to Seven I was not impressed. Its push pull and when i delete a email on my phone it does that on my account too.
I can recommend
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
samy.3660 said:
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
khr0n0s said:
I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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It sounds like yahoo mail really sucks. Gmail FTW

Gmail users...Gmail app or Stock email app?

Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
OmegaDog said:
Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
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I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
jhericurls said:
I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
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Personal preference. I like keeping my inboxes separate. Also, I'm fairly certain the stock email app doesn't handle Gmail-specific functions such as importance markers, priority inbox, and labels.
OmegaDog said:
Looking for your thoughts? Which is better on battery life utilizing push?
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Using Google and Gmail is less taxing on your battery. If you setup your Gmail account (on a computer from the Gmail inbox) to poll your other accounts, it will then push new emails to your phone. That means your phone is only active (in terms of getting emails) when a new email is being pushed to the phone verses the native email app that will poll your pop3 accounts on the frequency you select. It will do that polling whether there are new emails available on your server or not. Over at Android Central is an article titled "Using Gmail as your own personal push mail server". It explains exactly how to set this up.
I've been doing this for about two years now and love it. I think the Gmail is better than the native email app too.
Good luck.
Gmail app, hands down. You're going to miss so many functions compared to the basic email app.
I didn't even know there was a stock email app..
Gmail all the way.
Gmail of course. Never even touched the stock Email app on any phone I've had.
I'd only use the stock email app if I had to connect to an exchange server. Otherwise, Gmail can pull your email and label them - there is your unified inbox, with the best search in the world and many more features than the stock email app.
Gmail no doubt about it
chirea.mircea said:
I'd only use the stock email app if I had to connect to an exchange server. Otherwise, Gmail can pull your email and label them - there is your unified inbox, with the best search in the world and many more features than the stock email app.
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I wish Google would put all of its efforts into just creating one amazing email app instead of two ok apps. I need Exchange support so I'm forced to use both apps and honestly, neither compares to the experience I had on Windows Phone... Search was much better and faster on Windows Phone as well. The main advantage to Gmail app is the labels function, after that the clients in Androids competitors win in speed, zoom and ability to change views like swipe to view all unread messages, and swipe again to view starred messages.
Stock Gmail preferred, but have to use both since Yahoo won't connect to Gmail unless you pay them a premium fee. Yahoo account is basically collecting spam and an occasional message from someone who hasn't updated their contact list in a while. And c2dm is more timely and battery efficient than scheduled polling and sync.
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hmm well I have been using the stock email app forever. Mainly because I needed exchange support, first for school and now for work. But I got tired of exchange hogging the battery so I just have all my emails forwarded now to my gmail account. Might have to give it a try.
Seeing as I only use Gmail on my phone the Gmail app does the job (and I delete the stock app as I never use it)
Lol I freeze the stock mail app first time I flash a rom
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Using both apps here.
Gmail app for my "real" email and stock for Yahoo and Exchange.
What's the stock email app?
Geezer Squid said:
Using Google and Gmail is less taxing on your battery. If you setup your Gmail account (on a computer from the Gmail inbox) to poll your other accounts, it will then push new emails to your phone. That means your phone is only active (in terms of getting emails) when a new email is being pushed to the phone verses the native email app that will poll your pop3 accounts on the frequency you select. It will do that polling whether there are new emails available on your server or not. Over at Android Central is an article titled "Using Gmail as your own personal push mail server". It explains exactly how to set this up.
I've been doing this for about two years now and love it. I think the Gmail is better than the native email app too.
Good luck.
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My god man. I never knew this.:laugh: Set this up in a matter of minutes. Thanks for this.:good:
Have you guys ever had a look at the gmail app for the iphone? It is gorgeous! And same functionality as well. Ours works very well but I would like to see a little UI overhaul
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jhericurls said:
I always wonder why people use the Gmail app. People must have more than one account. So why not use an unified inbox, so you can view all your emails in one place?
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I pull other accounts into my main Gmail account, so everything ends up there (e-mails from other accounts automatically get labeled accordingly), and I can access everything through the Gmail app on my phone.

[Q] Default Mail App - Push Option MISSING

Been using K-9 Mobile since my first Android experince, but after sending the device for repair last week, I wanted to try the default Mail app since it has a nice integration inside contact's threads part.
Found an xda-thread about all push notifications not working well on One XL section but most of the people said it was fixed after late 2012 updates and also they had the PUSH option in sync settings but the difference is, I don't have. Also my other notifications work well, K9 still works well.
Only smart sync, 5mins 10mins.. etc. but no PUSH.
The mail is configured as IMAP all the ports are correct, neither the company mail nor the Gmail account works as expected. Gmail delivers in about 20mins, company mail takes much longer-sometimes 2hrs and still no mail. It updates when I open the mail app which is not something I'm used to do.
One X 32GB International (M27-Turkey)
3.20.401.1
Done a lot search but yet if there is a solution and I failed to find, apologies.
Did try deleting the account and re-creating, didn't help.
G-mail app is disabled but haven't seen any effect of it.

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