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I got me a Desire from Telus a few days ago and i'm looking into rooting and installing ROMs, but i'm not really sure where to start (there seem to be a LOT of choices). I'm not a fan of Sense at all so anything that doesn't include HTC's fluff will probably get my attention.
Thanks!
im currently running opendesire...
pretty much stock 2.2 with a few tweaks, really quick, and no crap.
either that or defrost which is more tweaked and modded.
these are the only 2 active aosp roms that i have seen lately..
the crappy sense ones have kind of taken over
CM Wave said:
I got me a Desire from Telus a few days ago and i'm looking into rooting and installing ROMs, but i'm not really sure where to start (there seem to be a LOT of choices). I'm not a fan of Sense at all so anything that doesn't include HTC's fluff will probably get my attention.
Thanks!
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I'd strongly recommend OpenDesire . It's basically vanilla froyo, with a few minor modifications/optimisations. It's compiled from source (it isn't a mod of a nexus one or HTC rom), and so is fast and clean. It's also being updated regularly in response to bug reports.
How's OpenDesire with battery life? Would I see an improvement or would it be pretty much the same thing?
I'm having the same "problem" really. I now run some near to HTC's stock Froyo rom. I'm sure I found it on XDA somewhere but it wasn't from a well-known dev.
I only installed a rom with Sense because of the black bar, since I purchased LauncherPro. But now that the black bar is ripped perfectly I don't see a reason not to run OpenDesire.
All I want is speed and good battery life.
I think that if i didnt care for the sense UI id first try Cyanogens rom...
I'm running CyanogenMod's nightly build on Desire and I really love it.
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How's OpenDesire with battery life? Would I see an improvement or would it be pretty much the same thing?
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With OpenDesire 3.1.0 and lates radio X.X.20 I got 2-3 days of battery life depending on the use of the phone. Normally I have 3G enabled almost 80-90% of the time.
Which is better : OpenDesire or DeFrost ???
Yes too bad so few NON SENSE ROM....
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Which is better : OpenDesire or DeFrost ???
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Hmmmm, good one, not sure to be honest, the 1st ROM I tried was DeFroST, and loved it, a few days ago I tried Opendesire 3.10, and now I bounce between the 2, as I can't decide.
No help I know, but had to give my thoughts.
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Which is better : OpenDesire or DeFrost ???
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Was using OD from version 2.xxx up to 3.1.0 but switched to Defrost 2.6a for two reasons:
1. Auto brightness is working (like in Sense ROMs) i.e. not too dimmed and that's out of the box.
2. My photos/videos taken with the camera app are recognised by my PCs and so can be transferred. In OD unfortunately cannot be seen.
Both ROMs are great vanilla stock like froyo an in my opinion the best ones. Try them both and stick to the one you like more.
AzureusPT said:
With OpenDesire 3.1.0 and lates radio X.X.20 I got 2-3 days of battery life depending on the use of the phone. Normally I have 3G enabled almost 80-90% of the time.
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Yep I have the same experience with OD3.1.0 and radio .20, I did download a weather widget from the market and it sucked the life from the battery, so got rid of the widget, all good now. Had no probs with the OJ dying yet, so cant comment on the power usage once the OJ dies.
Running OD 3.1 too
Love it and really see no use for the Sense UI on Android due to the availability of widgets.
Just question: why isn't MODACO present on XDA?
there's also one more ROM...
[FROYO-OTA] Psychosis 3.0 No Sense Deodexed A2SD+ AdBlock VERY FAST 720p
Are there any ROMs that offer undervolting or a specific focus on battery life?
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Are there any ROMs that offer undervolting or a specific focus on battery life?
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Undervolting made my desire go wobbly, but not everyones. Defrost was and is doing lots of uv, uvoc, and oc ing.
Hope it helps
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Are there any ROMs that offer undervolting or a specific focus on battery life?
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Not that i know of.
Having tried leedroid, defrost, shadowfrost, opendesire, nextsense and neophyte id have to say opendesire has very good battery life compared to the others. Defrost is the most snappy, but it drains the battery like a mofo.
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Not that i know of.
Having tried leedroid, defrost, shadowfrost, opendesire, nextsense and neophyte id have to say opendesire has very good battery life compared to the others. Defrost is the most snappy, but it drains the battery like a mofo.
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I found the opposite, DeFroST seems to last longer than OD on my phone.
Hey guys, just wondering what the most stable (fewest bugs) ROM available right now is. I am also wanting to extentd my battery life. I have a rooted stock 2.2 SLCD Dinc. I know that some things work differently on the SLCD versions than on the AMOLED versions.
I have recently come from an eris and had a great support group on the eris xda section. Since the eris has been around a lot longer than the Dinc it was easy to tell what ROM's were widley used due the activity on that thread. It is not as easy in the Dinc threads because they are so even in numbers.
Thanks for any advice!
You will get a better response in the Q&A forum.
prob skyraider
i love the true vanilla roms like ruby and CM but im not sure if you would consider them 100% stable and i know theres been problems with the SLCD screens
as far as stability.. the Virtuous rom is basically the stock rom with a few user friendly options to tweak things.
I have had the best experience with skyraider's roms, I like the CM6.1 RC's but always get better battery life with skyraider.
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Sorry about that, how do I move this to that forum?
By posting it in the q&a section
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Try IncRom. Battery life is outstanding
Myn's Warm RLS 3 is the best I've ever used. It is pristine. 2 days of battery life, no FC's, awesome speed.
Thank you for all of the suggestions. I am reading about all of them and realy wrestling with which one to try...
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Myn's Warm RLS 3 is the best I've ever used. It is pristine. 2 days of battery life, no FC's, awesome speed.
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what kernel are you using? im on ziggys but theres no way i could ever get 2 days out of my battery with low to moderate use
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what kernel are you using? im on ziggys but theres no way i could ever get 2 days out of my battery with low to moderate use
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2.32.17 stock kernel. Seems to be really nice.
Special note though, the use of games will drain that sucker like a vampire victim.
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2.32.17 stock kernel. Seems to be really nice.
Special note though, the use of games will drain that sucker like a vampire victim.
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Yeah I agree with you on that. I'm using Virtuous 3.1 which comes with the new htc kernel and it's blown my mind on battery life and charging times.
The cool thing about roms is the ability to backup and install brand new ones with no risk of really messing anything up. Try them all and find out which you like best. I try a new rom everyday practically... I'm on Myn's right now but I'm probably about to go back to rEVOlution... or Incdoes' Desire Z.... The choices...
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Thank you for all of the suggestions. I am reading about all of them and realy wrestling with which one to try...
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Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
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Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
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+1 I CONSTANTLY get yelled at. ;-)
localceleb said:
Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
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HAHA, yes! I thought I was really the only one. I was like, baby, you're being stupid, no one else cares.... guess I was wrong. It used to be changing phones all the time, but once I got an incredible, I haven't had the desire to change hardware, just software...
Glad I'm not the only one, kinda makes me feel more like a man now.
gfs and rom flashing
man, same here....i think at 11pm no one is going to call me and i can finally flash the rom i've been waiting all day to flash, but boom! gf calls and im like damn. lol. then i spend another hour trying to make it look like how it was before i flashed, ex: download the apps (i still have learned how to use titanium backup to restore the apps), put icons in their places, login all the apps, setup emails, etc....and by the end of the week, new version of a different rom is out and i wanna flash that now.
My wife WANTS an incredible, but she HATES my phone. Shes always saying "Why cant you just PICK ONE and GO WITH IT. Im SO TIRED of your LOVE AFFAIR with your PHONE!"
Shes grown to tolerate it over the year. Kinda.
But back on topic, the ones i tried and liked so far have been
Sense: Uncommon Sense, Myn's Warm, and anything with hey its lou
AOSP: Cyanogen is great on battery, Ruby is nice and smooth, and I've liked the stuff from IncDoes.
To be honest, I don't think that the ROM affects your battery life that greatly. The kernel and what applications your running has a much greater effect. For example, I found that I got the best battery life with either an AOSP ROM, or a Sense ROM with Rosie removed (keeping all the other parts of Sense intact, just replacing Rosie with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro). Also, LiveWallpapers destroyed my battery.
That said, stability is definitely affected by your ROM. SkyRaider seemed okay, but I had my phone wipe itself one morning, which someone else confirmed as being an issue. My personal best experience has been with Redemptive rEVOlution. Great theme, not much bloat, and nearly bugfree.
hey guys i just rooted my GF phone and wanted to see what good rom you guys recommend for my GF use all she cares about having working 4G and good battery cause stock battery sucks...and simple no bells and wishtles maybe like wifi tethering and thats about it...PLEASE HELP there are so many ROM to chose from!!
Try ricsim's turbo stock great battery life fast and bugless and looks completely stock
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I am going to have to take a different opinion on this. I would recommend Myn's TwoPointTwo. Myn has done some extensive work throughout the rom to help with battery life. For the excellent battery life that everyone speaks of, flashing a kernel may be necessary, but that is up to you. The biggest selling point for Myn's rom is the support in the thread for his rom. You can almost always ask something and your guaranteed an answer 5 minutes later.
Now do they both come with 4g enabeld ad wifi tethering app and maybe flashing a kernel is risky I want a rom that's all in one...radios....kernels yo know the whole plate...and thank for he relplies keep it comming
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Myn has all features working 4g,3g, tethering, you name it. And the stock htc kernel is what he packages in his roms, but the latest haven't been bad at all. But I just prefer to get 26 hours of use on one charge. So it depends on how much she wants out of her battery.
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Myn has all features working 4g,3g, tethering, you name it. And the stock htc kernel is what he packages in his roms, but the latest haven't been bad at all. But I just prefer to get 26 hours of use on one charge. So it depends on how much she wants out of her battery.
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She honestly wants the most se can get....I was going to go wit calk evilo 2 cause I am familiar wit him from SDX the moment forums but I haven't been in the evo game to know to much as you can see I have an EPIC lol but thanks man what your set up and how do I get it...
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She honestly wants the most se can get....I was going to go wit calk evilo 2 cause I am familiar wit him from SDX the moment forums but I haven't been in the evo game to know to much as you can see I have an EPIC lol but thanks man what your set up and how do I get it...
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Well, currently I am running:
-Myn's warm TwoPointTwo RLS 4 which is the newest release.
-On top of that I flashed the Ziggy Beta 12/14 CFS Kernel.
Personally, I would just get her onto the rom,and have her try out the rom just as is and see how she comes out with batter life. From experience I can tell you the battery you get will reflect on the way your settings are on the phone itself. Like i said earlier, have her test out this kernel thats already in the rom and see how she comes out. Kernels are like women, you have to try out a few before you can find the one that works the best for you.
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Well, currently I am running:
-Myn's warm TwoPointTwo RLS 4 which is the newest release.
-On top of that I flashed the Ziggy Beta 12/14 CFS Kernel.
Personally, I would just get her onto the rom,and have her try out the rom just as is and see how she comes out with batter life. From experience I can tell you the battery you get will reflect on the way your settings are on the phone itself. Like i said earlier, have her test out this kernel thats already in the rom and see how she comes out. Kernels are like women, you have to try out a few before you can find the one that works the best for you.
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Well alrighty then I am heading over to his site right now any fixes I have to implement or bugs I sould be aware of...
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KaL-EL3038 said:
Well alrighty then I am heading over to his site right now any fixes I have to implement or bugs I sould be aware of...
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Nope, pretty solid rom.
Myn's hands down right now, for the best looking (Damn it's pretty), best FULLY functioning, best battery rom, IMO anyway.
HTC should have hired MYN for the overall appearance and UI experience, instead of the crap they tossed together with Sprint.
Another vote for Myn 2.2!!! Best ROM I have ever used.
I gotta agree, I'm using twopointtwo RLS4 and I get 20hours out of my phone with average usage and 10hours with heavy usage.
Without a doubt, Myns is the way to go. I don't think ill ever use anything other than myns( for my daily driver, still like to check others out). Every release is rock solid. Delay no further. And btw, the kernel it comes with, HTC 17, gives my phone the best battery life. I've tried all if ziggys and most of nets. They all ran great, fast, and smooth for me, but the stock did the best overall.
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okay, folks, so, i got clockwork mod, the lastest version, i have no idea what my radio is.
what rom would work best for me?
i just want
gingerbread
Sense
decent camera (not choppy like the default rom)
and decent speed
that's about it. basic stock with fast responses in a nutshell of the post.
For a fast, gingerbread sense 2.1 ROM I would try either newts optimized shift or Wild Stangs pure speed.
Any reason why you need gingerbread? I'm running one of Chingy's Gingerbread ROMs on my Thunderbolt, OC'd to 1.41, and that about what it takes to make it work smoothly. I tried a GB rom on my old dInc a few weeks ago. It was the herky-jerkiest thing I'd ever put on there. If you HAVE to have Sense, avoid Sense 3.0 elements and avoid anything 3D. AOSP like CM7 or the like is, in my experience, the only smart way to run GB on a dInc or EVO. GB in itself isn't the killer, it's Sense running on top of it.
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Any reason why you need gingerbread? I'm running one of Chingy's Gingerbread ROMs on my Thunderbolt, OC'd to 1.41, and that about what it takes to make it work smoothly. I tried a GB rom on my old dInc a few weeks ago. It was the herky-jerkiest thing I'd ever put on there. If you HAVE to have Sense, avoid Sense 3.0 elements and avoid anything 3D. AOSP like CM7 or the like is, in my experience, the only smart way to run GB on a dInc or EVO. GB in itself isn't the killer, it's Sense running on top of it.
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why are you bashing?, i asked a question about roms, not for people to bash stuff.
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okay, folks, so, i got clockwork mod, the lastest version, i have no idea what my radio is.
what rom would work best for me?
i just want
gingerbread
Sense
decent camera (not choppy like the default rom)
and decent speed
that's about it. basic stock with fast responses in a nutshell of the post.
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To check your radio go to
Settings > About Phone > Baseband Version
I'll have to give you fair warning that the Sense GB's are a drainer on performance and battery - I would first suggest you try out SkyRaider (http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1314-ROM-SkyRaider-Sense-4.2-UPDATED-6-28-11)
This is Froyo but it's sense and very stable, smooth, quick, and great battery life. I used it for a long while before I made the switch to CM7.
From personal experience if you're going gingerbread I say CM7 or OMFGB. Also MIUI is another popular choice (if you're into it- very different from any other ROM).
ADW launcher comes with CM7, and at first that was the whole reason I stopped using CM7, then I figured out you can change the launcher.. haha
Launcher Pro+ was a much better choice for me, so if you go that route and you don't like ADW- you know where to turn
Kernel's are another very major part of how well your phone performs and also your battery life. Chad's incredikernel are by far the top choice for both Sense and AOSP kernel's.
As always, if you have bad luck with one ROM or kernel, get suggestions and try another. There IS a perfect combination waiting for you
From experience, I would have to agree with loonatik78 about Sense 3.0's effects on phone performance. With that said, I absolutely love Sense and stayed on Sense 2.1/3.0 roms until 3.0 roms received proper treatment and I subsequently switched over to Pure 3.0 roms several weeks ago. I agree with loonatik78 in the sense that you should avoid a pure 3.0 rom IF you want generally less lag but as development continues they get better everyday.
I would suggest Synergy rom from Incubus26jc, Optimized Shift from Newtoroot, AND Nils Business Gingersense 2.1/3.0 +3d. I respect these dev's work and recommend them with ease. As far as the camera, I don't take pics often so I can't provide much insight there. I know Nils' rom is in the process of including hdr and panorama as a setting in the camera app courtesy of Newtoroot (who included it in his Hybrid Sense 3.0 rom I believe). Hopefully you peak in and see what each Sense 2.1/3.0 rom available has to offer and find your daily.
Wdforty's Inc2 Remix hands down. Its a Sense 2.1 ROM with the nice 3.0 bits added in and the battery life is pretty good. It's pretty stable as well.
For the full Sense 3.0 experience I would give Nils Gingersense 3.0 a try. He does great work as well and his ROM is quite snappy for 3.0.
To be honest, flashing on the Incredible is so easy you can try them all out for yourself to see which ROM satisfies YOUR needs. As long as you stick with ROMS towards the top of the Developement forum (shows many people are using them) you will be fine. Read the threads for serious bugs that are reported that may sway you from using a rom.
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k, i am close, i's just trhat i talked to a freind who put cm7 or a rom on his droid 1, and he said he had to reset it.
i guess i am just afraid of bricking the phone, booted cm7 the last time throuh rom manager, and it kept botting in bootloop, well, i got the rom back, but, i don't want to go through that again.
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To check your radio go to
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I'll have to give you fair warning that the Sense GB's are a drainer on performance and battery - I would first suggest you try out SkyRaider (http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1314-ROM-SkyRaider-Sense-4.2-UPDATED-6-28-11)
This is Froyo but it's sense and very stable, smooth, quick, and great battery life. I used it for a long while before I made the switch to CM7.
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okay, the thing is, is there really that much of a noticable difference bewteen 2.2 and 2.3? i already tested out flash and it works flawlessly o this default dinc (after i cleared the bloatware out, THANKS TITANIUM BACKUP!) i'm not going to use blockbuster, or netflix (as much as people like that, i don't watch movies on a 3 1/2 scren.
okay, i may just try oput skyraider to start with, like i said i'm new to flashing.
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okay, i may just try oput skyraider to start with, like i said i'm new to flashing.
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I like Nils Business Gingersense 3d-2.3 for a Sense rom. It is stable, quick and battery life is good. I use Conaps DualRom x2 so I'm able to load CM7, OMFGB, Evervolv and Miui (all Aosp roms) also. They are all very stable, quick and very good battery life using Chad's incredikernel on all except OMFGB on which I use invisiblek kernel.
I think in the end, it is mostly a matter of personal preference.
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why are you bashing?, i asked a question about roms, not for people to bash stuff.
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Holy Sh#t! Are you for real??? All I was doing was giving you an honest impression of my personal experience with a gingerbread Sense ROM built by one of the most experienced devs on the dInc. I used a LOT of ROM's on that phone. The absolute fastest Sense experience you will find is Incredibly Re-Engineered 2.3.2 using Ziggy's BFS 4/10 overclocked to 1.153GHz, smartass gov. setCPU to sleep at 245. The better way to do it would be to use the sysfs interface with a script to undervolt it more, set the smartass to be more conservative, and overclock it. If the smartass is tweaked correctly, the thing will do most of it's work around 768MHz or less, but will still have the overhead to ramp up to 1.153GHz if the load demands. I've been looking at all the GB kernels available and the sysfs on them isn't set up to do all that I've described on any of them. That's not to say they're not very well appointed kernels. They are, to the point I'm jealous. The TB has 2 GB Sense kernels. And the second one is based off the tree of the first.
My Tbolt took a mean hit in performance moving from froyo to GB. It's muscular enough hardware that it makes little impact on user experience. I put the same ROM ported for the dInc on the dInc and it was simply painful to watch. Aside from full Sense with Sense 3.0 elements, that ROM was stripped to the bone. That's why I asked if you really need GB. If you don't, there's far faster stuff out there in the land of Froyo. I run GB on the dInc now, and it's just as stupid-fast as the Tbolt, but it's AOSP. In fact, it would probably out-score my Bolt on benchmarks.
I like my Sense too. My dInc runs AOSP because that's what the gf likes. It'll probably go back to Sense when I give it to my wife. It's nice being able to get some AOSP experience now, since I don't have to live with the thing. Sorry if my opinion of my experience with GB Sense made it look like I was hating on the dInc. I'm not. You should have seen a lot of the first GB builds for the Bolt. You'd be lucky if the thing even booted. And they crawled along like sloths on opium. Maybe when some more developed GB leaks come along, it will work like it should. It's not there yet. Go try some and let me know. I'd love to think I'm wrong.
Optimized shift is my favorite just wish it had 2.1 lockscreen.. pure speed is fast just the lockscreen call bug irritated me... I'm on omfgb and have had a fast and stable experience.. using incredikernel with fast charge.. sense is nice but way too laggy for me.. guess I'm just picky..
Once a fast stable 3.0 sense rom comes out I'll probably switch to it... I try every rom I think is good but usually sense lets me down..
Well that's my 2¢…
Btw dude wasn't bashing he was telling you his experience... NOT everyone on here are a$$ holes lol
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okay, i may just try oput skyraider to start with, like i said i'm new to flashing.
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That's a good one to start out with.
CM7 is nice but some people just prefer Sense.
I'd suggest that you stay away from ROM manager just because it can be buggy often.
Really not too big of changes from 2.2 to 2.3
Most notable is the over-scroll effect and they put in some security patches.
Eventually I'm sure you'll want to try out Sense 3.0- but just giving out my opinion in that it doesn't run too great on the INC compared to other ROM's. Bunches of people use it all the time and love it, so who knows, it may be for you. It's what's so great about android.
@loonatik78 / Kiboe
The problem isn't so much the fact that it's GB, it's because Sense GB adds on a whole lotta more bloat to your phone. Our phones just weren't designed to handle the newer Sense versions, and although you can flash it and you can use it as a daily you won't get the best performance or battery out of your phone.
DEV's are making this situation better with each new release but I think you get what I'm saying.
Also know that if you update to GB on AOSP you will lose your 720p video recording- not important to most people but if it is to you then you should clear away.
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I think OP was still mad at him for his other 10 posts of pure bashing and douche-baggery that he made in a couple other threads.
yep, just flashed skyraider and...so far i love it, i just have the itch to flash over to gingersense due to gb, but like you said, i may hold off on that for a while.
"@loonatik78 / Kiboe The problem isn't so much the fact that it's GB, it's because Sense GB adds on a whole lotta more bloat to your phone. Our phones just weren't designed to handle the newer Sense versions, and although you can flash it and you can use it as a daily you won't get the best performance or battery out of your phone."
That really is the exact point I was trying to make. Sorry if my opinion of the dInc, based on experiences just like this, bothers some folks. I really am. For the record I got quite caustic in 2 other threads concerning "what's next" and "dInc verses bolt". If I didn't have a really good experience with the dInc, I wouldn't have got a dInc2 and a Tbolt. Though the basic specs look quite similar for all 3, the little details make the big difference. For example, the Tbolt and dInc2 use the same chip. It's a snapdragon, but fabbed on a smaller process. It's got more on-die cache and RAM. They use more efficient radios. They both use a more advanced GPU.
Maybe gingerbread sense ROMs will get more efficient. That would be nice. But that isn't reality today. I doubt that will ever be reality regarding Sense 3.0 ROMs. They ask a lot from hardware that phone hasn't got. Therefore, I call the Tbolt and dInc2 better and what's next. It's just facts. Nothing people should be getting worked up over. I'll try to disagree a bit more diplomaticly in the future.
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"@loonatik78 / Kiboe The problem isn't so much the fact that it's GB, it's because Sense GB adds on a whole lotta more bloat to your phone. Our phones just weren't designed to handle the newer Sense versions, and although you can flash it and you can use it as a daily you won't get the best performance or battery out of your phone."
That really is the exact point I was trying to make. Sorry if my opinion of the dInc, based on experiences just like this, bothers some folks. I really am. For the record I got quite caustic in 2 other threads concerning "what's next" and "dInc verses bolt". If I didn't have a really good experience with the dInc, I wouldn't have got a dInc2 and a Tbolt. Though the basic specs look quite similar for all 3, the little details make the big difference. For example, the Tbolt and dInc2 use the same chip. It's a snapdragon, but fabbed on a smaller process. It's got more on-die cache and RAM. They use more efficient radios. They both use a more advanced GPU.
Maybe gingerbread sense ROMs will get more efficient. That would be nice. But that isn't reality today. I doubt that will ever be reality regarding Sense 3.0 ROMs. They ask a lot from hardware that phone hasn't got. Therefore, I call the Tbolt and dInc2 better and what's next. It's just facts. Nothing people should be getting worked up over. I'll try to disagree a bit more diplomaticly in the future.
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It's more the way you argue for them than the fact that they are. Everyone knows those are newer phones with better upgraded hardware, but compared with the evolution of Android- they aren't that big of a step from INC even though they are still a step up. 4G is nice but a very small percentage of people have that, and when they leave that area it's gone.
idk why this has to be my 3rd time telling you this *facepalm*
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It's more the way you argue for them than the fact that they are. Everyone knows those are newer phones with better upgraded hardware, but compared with the evolution of Android- they aren't that big of a step from INC even though they are still a step up. 4G is nice but a very small percentage of people have that, and when they leave that area it's gone.
idk why this has to be my 3rd time telling you this *facepalm*
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I guess I'm just not seeing that a small percentage are LTE covered. I can drive 100 miles many places with LTE coverage. Most of a drive from Detroit, MI to Cincinnati, OH is covered with LTE. I can drive from Cocoa to Tampa with LTE the whole way. Fostoria, OH has it. Who's even heard of Fostoria, OH? I WISH this thing had a display like the dInc2. It doesn't. It kinda sucks actually. What comes after this will be a fairly marginal, incremental improvement as well. Dual core? That's not gonna be 2 big, beefy Scorpion cores like what they're using now. The primary purpose of dual cores is power consumption. Each will use less cache and resources. Together they should perform about as well as a Tbolt Scorpion clocked up around 1.91GHz (Very possible, believe it or not) and use much less power. The really cool thing about the dInc is it was so powerful there was just about nothing it couldn't do given the resources outside of the device. Everything else had to catch up to what it could do. It STILL makes the iPhone4 look dated! That's a HUGE compliment. But, now devices will have to catch up to what LTE can do. It's not just faster. You can do things with the phone that were impossible before, simply because the speed wasn't there. That's made my user experience noticeably better. Other people see it too when they ask you to use your phone for something because it's just too slow on their 3G device. That's my opinion. It's been more than marginal improvement for me and a few of my friends, even if the actual hardware isn't radically improved. Ya'll can take it for what it's worth, go try one out, tell me to **** off, whatever. You're gonna be in the same boat as me eventually.
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I guess I'm just not seeing that a small percentage are LTE covered. I can drive 100 miles many places with LTE coverage. Most of a drive from Detroit, MI to Cincinnati, OH is covered with LTE. I can drive from Cocoa to Tampa with LTE the whole way. Fostoria, OH has it. Who's even heard of Fostoria, OH? I WISH this thing had a display like the dInc2. It doesn't. It kinda sucks actually. What comes after this will be a fairly marginal, incremental improvement as well. Dual core? That's not gonna be 2 big, beefy Scorpion cores like what they're using now. The primary purpose of dual cores is power consumption. Each will use less cache and resources. Together they should perform about as well as a Tbolt Scorpion clocked up around 1.91GHz (Very possible, believe it or not) and use much less power. The really cool thing about the dInc is it was so powerful there was just about nothing it couldn't do given the resources outside of the device. Everything else had to catch up to what it could do. It STILL makes the iPhone4 look dated! That's a HUGE compliment. But, now devices will have to catch up to what LTE can do. It's not just faster. You can do things with the phone that were impossible before, simply because the speed wasn't there. That's made my user experience noticeably better. Other people see it too when they ask you to use your phone for something because it's just too slow on their 3G device. That's my opinion. It's been more than marginal improvement for me and a few of my friends, even if the actual hardware isn't radically improved. Ya'll can take it for what it's worth, go try one out, tell me to **** off, whatever. You're gonna be in the same boat as me eventually.
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Well there's still no 4G in VA at all so it's got a ways to go before it's considered coverageable.
The CPU speed was what I was trying to say to you before, it takes a lot of power to rev the CPU faster- and with dual cores they can both run slower yet outperform a beefier CPU clocked at faster rates. That's really the upgrade I'm waiting for, a good phone with dual core with root available.
this is going horribly offtopic.
I think it's pretty amazing how there really are no mods here.
It's like they all just abandoned.
Hello,
Yet another "which rom?" thread, but I'm hoping people can either concur or deny for all the magic reportedly gained by Synergy's "God Mode," performance is still not that great.
I was using netarchy's BurntDroid for about 10 months, and figured I'd hit up this god mode to get even more performance out of the system. However, after flashing, not only was there no gain, but responsiveness of Rosie as well as all of the apps is much worse. Yes, the ROM looks great, this is quite obvious; but with the performance this poor, I just can't stay with it.
Now, I'm wondering, to do with the God Mode magic, how do I know it's there? How do I verify that the partitions are designed as explained? I guess, I'm so disappointed that I'm skeptical of myself... am I doing it wrong?
Other than that, the old generic question, which ROM looks pretty nice and has the best performance?
Thanks,
Matt
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Hello,
Yet another "which rom?" thread, but I'm hoping people can either concur or deny for all the magic reportedly gained by Synergy's "God Mode," performance is still not that great.
I was using netarchy's BurntDroid for about 10 months, and figured I'd hit up this god mode to get even more performance out of the system. However, after flashing, not only was there no gain, but responsiveness of Rosie as well as all of the apps is much worse. Yes, the ROM looks great, this is quite obvious; but with the performance this poor, I just can't stay with it.
Now, I'm wondering, to do with the God Mode magic, how do I know it's there? How do I verify that the partitions are designed as explained? I guess, I'm so disappointed that I'm skeptical of myself... am I doing it wrong?
Other than that, the old generic question, which ROM looks pretty nice and has the best performance?
Thanks,
Matt
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Try Kings port from Evo3D, Shooter.....great ROM!
branded said:
Hello,
Yet another "which rom?" thread, but I'm hoping people can either concur or deny for all the magic reportedly gained by Synergy's "God Mode," performance is still not that great.
I was using netarchy's BurntDroid for about 10 months, and figured I'd hit up this god mode to get even more performance out of the system. However, after flashing, not only was there no gain, but responsiveness of Rosie as well as all of the apps is much worse. Yes, the ROM looks great, this is quite obvious; but with the performance this poor, I just can't stay with it.
Now, I'm wondering, to do with the God Mode magic, how do I know it's there? How do I verify that the partitions are designed as explained? I guess, I'm so disappointed that I'm skeptical of myself... am I doing it wrong?
Other than that, the old generic question, which ROM looks pretty nice and has the best performance?
Thanks,
Matt
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I've tried both Synergy w/godmode and without, and my phone performs better without. I use the GoldenMonkey 1.1 kernel, and have 0 complaints.
Really depends on what you want for features and style.
A lot of the ROMs are pretty similar, but some allow for more customization of things like the Rosie Launcher and notifications.
Personally, I've had a lot better performance and luck with Myn's Synergy ROM over Virus' Synergy Kingdom. I loaded up Synergy Kingdom and it was just laggy and slow for like a day; Myn's is pretty slick and I haven't had any issues with it.
I also like the MikG ROM.
Those are the main ones I've tried and recommend. Although right now I'm having data issues, and I don't know if it's the ROM or my phone or Sprint or what.
I have tried Synergy, MikG, Kings Shooter and Kings Alliance. I am currently running Alliance as it seems to have better response times for me, at least so far...just flashed it yesterday. Biggest thing I have found is trial and error.
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MIUI just try it out. I fell in love <3
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Thanks guys!
I just ran V6 Supercharger and it really improved performance. I'll see how it is after running the system without reboot 10+ hours though; and how terribly it lags my BlastMonkeys when I go in and out of coverage areas (subway).
I'm running netarchy's toastmod kernel, so I'll install golden monkey... why not!
Anyway, appreciate the ROM suggestions... I'll take a look at them and see which is best for performance with some style.
I'm coming from the htc Inspire to the evo and most of this roms are ported from there and they don't work that great on the evo and all of inspire roms has working 4g even cm and miui I cant say the same for the evo. Probably stock 233 works better lol.
popper668 said:
MIUI just try it out. I fell in love <3
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Hey branded try caulkin is the **** man!!