HD movies on tilt2? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I have been using sompy movie encoder for a few years to convert movies to play on tilt and am using the same to convert on tilt2. I play them through tcpmp but quality isn't that great. I was wondering if there are different settings for the encoder to make it better?

brent_si said:
I have been using sompy movie encoder for a few years to convert movies to play on tilt and am using the same to convert on tilt2. I play them through tcpmp but quality isn't that great. I was wondering if there are different settings for the encoder to make it better?
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if your expecting quality like the hd2, thgen ur outta luck. the screen isnt made for hd

uncleswoop said:
if your expecting quality like the hd2, thgen ur outta luck. the screen isnt made for hd
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No Just something that is better. My movies don't even use the full screen on the tilt2. I think its because im using the same converter as original tilt with smaller screen. Fixing that would be a start. Any suggestion?

i think theres a thread in here somewhere with details on the best process of converting a video for better results. but your gonna have to search lol.

Pay particular attention to my posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787812

brent_si said:
No Just something that is better. My movies don't even use the full screen on the tilt2. I think its because im using the same converter as original tilt with smaller screen. Fixing that would be a start. Any suggestion?
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Is the following option selected in TCPMP? Options>Zoom>Fit Best.
With this selected, TCPMP should fill the screen as much as possible (without "chopping" off any of the picture) depending on the aspect ratio of the video. So you may get some letterboxing. But either the height or the width of the picture should go all the way to the edge. Select "Fill Screen" if you don't want any letterboxing (but you may have some of the picture chopped off).

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best way to encode video?

heya
i've got a P3300 with original rom WM6. and a sandisk 1GB SD.
i use TCPMP or WMP and i'd like to encode videos to enjoy watching them while traveling.
so far i've tried different encode programs, FPS, audio tracks, etc and i get always a bad result like audio/video desync, low video quality, not smooth video, mettalic sound, you take the pick, i've got it all except a nice video
so, what would be the best program to ENCODE and what options?
and which would be the best one to reproduce and what options? coz TCPMP has loads of options, so many i get lost in them. i tried a lot, but didn't get better results (different, but not better) so i guess the encoding part on my PC is also to blame.
any suggestions, links, faqs or whatever you could help me a bit? thx.
I use WinAvi to convert my movies to wmv, using the
Local Area Network 384kbps, get movies at around 200-300Mbytes.. looks and sound ok to me.. I use WMP to play the movies... on my wizard
I'm using the Power-Tool Canopus Procoder to encode the videos in DivX Format with 240 x 320 pixel.
the videos looking good and have a small size.
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........
suske-wiske said:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........
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yepp, using this now. i get nearly perfect results now, but will try and teak the settings a little bit more when i have some time.
suske-wiske said:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........
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I agree and i use TCPM to play it with - It works great and is also free
MicTh said:
I agree and i use TCPM to play it with - It works great and is also free
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u got any favorite setting in the encoder or playback program to get better results?

TP2 and playing video

I just wanted to know how the TP2 handles video files (like movies).
I know I could download coreplayer but that will not work with watching tv/movies via slingbox and etc. Has anyone tried using their TP2 with slingbox or playing movies on it? What has been your experience?
Sadly the original TP was not great at this. I am trying to decide between the TP2 and the samsung Omnia II or omnia pro.
Any feedback/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
I only have experience with Coreplayer.... I've watched several .avi files , with an resolution of 640x272 and a filesize of over an 1gb, and it played well!
Even the battery will hold on for 2 films. (flightmodus)
argoldst said:
I just wanted to know how the TP2 handles video files (like movies).
I know I could download coreplayer but that will not work with watching tv/movies via slingbox and etc. Has anyone tried using their TP2 with slingbox or playing movies on it? What has been your experience?
Sadly the original TP was not great at this. I am trying to decide between the TP2 and the samsung Omnia II or omnia pro.
Any feedback/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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I downloaded DivX and was watching full screen, looks great, I tried both the mobile version and the PC version of the same video. I must say on the WVGA screen the PC version looks much better, just took up about twice as much memory on my storage card. Not to mention the audio was very clear and loud! Compaired to my Diamond the TP2 is much better. I also am running the D3D drivers so that may help..... Not sure though.....
argoldst said:
I just wanted to know how the TP2 handles video files (like movies).
Any feedback/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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well argold, I just watched the last episode of Entourage featuring ari gold and the picture quality was awesome. I was using coreplayer to view the files.
Sling box
Hi there ,
I got a Slingbox HD-pro and it "working" on my Telus tp2 (stock rom) . BUT !!!
the main issue is the resolution of the phone 800x480.
the slingmobile app run at 320x240 or lower (16:9 and 4:3) (4:3 what that ? who still use that )
so until singbox give us a better "zoom" "strech" "even better 640x480" you lose almost 1 cm on each sides and 0.6mm top bottom of your tv picture.
I did not use any WVGAFIX3_BY_Cotulla.zip or screen resolution changer yet.
If every setting are setup to default it run at 30 fps went I got a good signal.
wifi run better
FYI,
(TP2 is not on the supported list of official sling mobile)
Best regards,
a happy sling user
I use the stock Telus TP2 without the enhanced video drivers with the built in video player and I play movies and they look GREAT!
inspireqc said:
Hi there ,
I got a Slingbox HD-pro and it "working" on my Telus tp2 (stock rom) . BUT !!!
the main issue is the resolution of the phone 800x480.
the slingmobile app run at 320x240 or lower (16:9 and 4:3) (4:3 what that ? who still use that )
so until singbox give us a better "zoom" "strech" "even better 640x480" you lose almost 1 cm on each sides and 0.6mm top bottom of your tv picture.
I did not use any WVGAFIX3_BY_Cotulla.zip or screen resolution changer yet.
If every setting are setup to default it run at 30 fps when I got a good signal.
wifi run better
FYI,
(TP2 is not on the supported list of official sling mobile)
Best regards,
a happy sling user
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Edit: Battery tested: 3h with 100 % brightness /1500mha /on EVDO rev A
Will test more on this and I will let you know
Does anyone have link to divx codec?
Stisse said:
Does anyone have link to divx codec?
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If you want the player with the Codec, here you go.....

Looking for a decent video player!

As the title says, I am looking for a decent video player, I have tried most, if not all in the "Market", but none I have found, seem to offer what I had as standard on the iphone!
What I would like, is the following:
1. Thumbnail of each video, with it's title.
2. The ability to zoom correctly, with proper aspect ratio support.
3. Remember the exit point of each video.
Zimly, has the best interface, of the ones I have found, but it does not support aspect ratio zoom, neither does it remember the exit point! Otherwise, I think this app is definitely on the right track!
The standard app, is good, but it does not display the title, nor does it remember the exit point, and you have to go into "Photos" to get to it!
If anyone knows of such an app, I would be most greatful.
P.S. Would just like to add, that the screen on this is superb for watching videos, whites are properly white, and blacks are really black! Unlike the iphone, which is a washed out mess with absolutely no contrast! Woe betied anyone who complains to Apple about this, I was actually told by their customer services, that no one else has complained, and that "They are happy with it"!!!! Thanks a lot Mr Jobs!
Another problem with video playback is that you cant jump to middle of movie. You can only jump cca 7min into movie, it you try to jump more it resets movie, starts playback from begining.
Tryed default player and one free with full lenght movie.
Mp4 format, h264
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Meridian is the best I've used. Whilst it doesn't tick all your boxes (eg no preview), it does remember where you left off on each individual video. It also allows you to seek to particular point in the video far more effectively than the stock app.
Regards,
Dave
This is the best Video player you can possible have on a android phone. It has all what you seek plus more. http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.hyperaware.videoplayerfull
On the fly bringnes settings, aspect ratios and it does remember the exit point also. It tells you if a file is playable. Only thumbnails are missing.
The only bad thing is no divx support on this phones. So You have to convert every ****.
Balos said:
The only bad thing is no divx support on this phones. So You have to convert every ****.
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You can play XviD/DviX movies with yxFlash player. Although it is be no means a perfect player, it is the only one(or at least was for a while) that can play these formats.
YxFlash is buggy as hell though... it doesn't even let me navigate to find files to play.
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I am using Act 1 video player. IMHO it us awesome. Fast, remembers the position where you have left a particular movie, tells you whether the file is playable, shows batt percentage, clock etc..
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th3 said:
YxFlash is buggy as hell though... it doesn't even let me navigate to find files to play.
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i agree yxflash is buggy as hell...
very bad quality when playback mp4 movie.
YxFlash is buggy as hell though... it doesn't even let me navigate to find files to play.
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i agree yxflash is buggy as hell...
very bad quality when playback mp4 movie.
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It's also been renamed to yxplayer now BTW.
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I am using Act 1 video player. IMHO it us awesome. Fast, remembers the position where you have left a particular movie, tells you whether the file is playable, shows batt percentage, clock etc..
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+1 from me also
Still no decent video players?
They seem to lack codecs or just be horribly made. I tried XYplayer but it's out of sync.

[Q] Converting Video for WP7

Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.
Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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I think this application should solve your problem....you can adjust everything....
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
It was great,I use it to convert videos for my android and Iphone...and it is very flexible.You can adjust the bit rate,size...almost everything...and it is free...
That's what i'm using at them minute sylau as i said in my post
Audio said:
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me...
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Do you know of a good one which will let me just convert to mp4 WVGA Paul?
*EDIT* Just found This Thread which Recommends a GUI for MENCoder called "SUPER". My dealings with MENCoder have been great in the past so i'll give it a go and let others know what it's like.
FWIW the Microsoft way is to use Expression encoder for WMV. It's free, it's nice, and it does a good job encoding, so if you want WMV you should use that one.
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Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.
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My Zune does not even want to read WMV files so I can not upload. I have multiple copies of DVD's/Blu-Ray's with digital copie of movie for portable devices.
I can copy those movies to my PC and watch them, I can watch them on HD2 but zune doesn ot see them so I can not copy them on to phone. They are all in WMV or MP4 format.
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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Same problem, I have digital copy's of blu-ray's that came with them, they play using WMV but the Zune Software won't see them and won't play them.
Download 'Expression Encoder'. There's an option to encode specifically for Zune.
Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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Funny as phone by default records in mp4
Mabe the audio stream?
I was just playing around with this last night, and the biggest issue was the audio stream. While it plays h264 streams up to the High Profile level 3.0, it did not like an AC3 stream. I had to demux a video that I had in an mkv container, convert the audio to AAC and remux into an mp4 container. Microsoft has a whole detailed table of stream type compatibility with bit rates, profiles, etc. I can't seem to post links, so search for it at the msdn dot microsoft dot com under this title "Supported Media Codecs for Windows Phone". The list on the WP7 consumer site sucks btw.
The AAC has two compatible types, AAC-LC and HE-AACv1 or v2.
I used MeGui to redo the audio, and yamb to mux it.
Thanks dgetz, here is the link to msdn.
Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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for the time being i have been using "HTC Touch HD Video Converter"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Seems to work very well
anyone try clonedvd mobile. I have used this in the past with the sony psp settings and gotten very good results, just a very small black strip (maybe 1-2mm) across the top and bottom of the screen (on my hd2).
Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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I can confirm that MP4 works on the Focus, using TV shows previously converted for my iPhone 4
I use handbrake on Windows and Mac to convert my videos, using the settings from
http://lifehacker.com/5572037/handbrake-presets-for-your-new-ipad-or-iphone-4
The results have been good, but using the frame(middle) setting shown in that article does bump up the file size a good amount, and as I'm sure a lot of you have heard, storage space isn't so easy to come by on WP7 yet...
Handbrake
I too can vouch for handbrake. All of the videos I have made for my ipod touch with it work just fine on the Focus. Unfortunately, the library I have for the touch is lower resolution, with videos at about 1/2 DVD resolution and at 500kbps encode rate. I end up with about 500 MB for the about 90 min. It is nice because they don't take up a lot of room, but still look decent. When output to a standard definition TV they look fine as well.
When I first put a few of these home videos on the Focus the lower quality was immediately noticeable. To see how I could push the phone, in my reply above I took a full DVD resolution video 720x400 (16x9 non-anamorphic) and corrected the audio stream. That video looks gorgeous on the Focus screen and is great for showing off the phone. It also takes up over 2.5 GB!!!! It is encoded at a rate of about 2100 kbps. As with any video encoding for a mobile device you have to make your own decision about resolution, encoding rate, etc in that constant game of quality versus size.
One thing to note. If there are black bars on your video, then either you have a video that was not encoded in a proportion that matches your screen or it was hard coded with the black bars. The second thing should be rare nowadays (eliminating this wasted information space was the point of an anamorphic DVD). The first is actually very common. IF your media is a studio movie, almost every action film these days comes at 2.35:1 instead of 16:9=1.77:1. Personally I like viewing any of my content in the way it was originally intended to be viewed and don't ever re-proportion anything. At the moment I am not sure if the Focus/WP7 'stretches' videos. I know on my ipod touch this was an option you could toggle by double tapping the video during playback...
Maybe I will play around with a few options tonight and report back.
have a zunehd and remember seeing this thread on abi
anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58183
it converts the audio of any avi/mkv and keeps the video the same, so converting only takes a few mins, and zune software recognizes it..for the zunehd anyways, maybe someone can try w/ wp7
Since I couldn't find right settings for MediaCoder (best video converter ever).
I was using Prism Video Converter for my Omnia7.
About settings for prism:
For .wmv use as video compresor WMV9 and for sound WMAV9, i am not changing the resolution as it is not bothering me at all. All files (mostly avi or mkv) played smooth after conversion.
If anybody have good settings for MediaCoder I will be much appreciated for sharing.
Thx
Okay, so MP4forHD works. The quality still isn't stunning, but it'll do for now (i guess.) However, i've encountered an issue with contrast. All my blacks appear as dark grays, which drives me nuts

Video Conversion/Playback/Best Methods...Anyone need help?

**Just in case there are still those out there looking for the best methods for video file conversion/playback, HD, mkv, avi, divx, mpeg... I enjoy troubleshooting A/V hiccups for any who could use the help, don't have ALL the answers but it's fun for me and want to contribute all I can!
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With that said...
WinX HD Video Converter free for download today by liking their facebook page:
http://www.f******k.com/WinXDVD?sk=app_208195102528120
replace the stars with the appropriate letters, duh...
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With that said...
WinX HD Video Converter free for download today by liking their facebook page:
http://www.f******k.com/WinXDVD?sk=app_208195102528120
replace the stars with the appropriate letters, duh...
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Good lookin' out! Thanks for this! Another free alternative is Freemake Video Converter, it's the VLC Player of file converters with device presets preloaded.
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with this phone i even forgot the last time i converted/encoded anything... MX Video Player is simply the best and will play anything you throw at it up to 720p. 1080p plays smoothly as well but not always. oh, and multi-subtitles/multi-audio tracks are supported as wel. only issue i found with it is it won't display embedded bitmap "vob" subtitles (other subtitles, both mixed in and external play just fine)
as far as video conversion, i take the geeky approach. AviSynth + x264 + neroAacEnc. with proper settings you will get the best results, ever... seriously. if you're scarred of command line, use the MeGUI or Handbrake frontends. same encoders, different approach.
i've spent many years experimenting with various video encoders/compressors and from my experience i've concluded that regardless of what you're trying to accomplish, h264/aac codec combo will give you the best quality than any other codec out there. oh, and make sure to use mkv container. it's the most flexible of popular container formats.
lastly, if you just want an easy tool, use Sorenson Squeeze. very flexible, easy to use, has gpu acceleration, and gives quite impressive results. only downside is its hella expensive, that is if you're trying to stay legal
frifox said:
with this phone i even forgot the last time i converted/encoded anything... MX Video Player is simply the best and will play anything you throw at it up to 720p. 1080p plays smoothly as well but not always. oh, and multi-subtitles/multi-audio tracks are supported as wel. only issue i found with it is it won't display embedded bitmap "vob" subtitles (other subtitles, both mixed in and external play just fine)
as far as video conversion, i take the geeky approach. AviSynth + x264 + neroAacEnc. with proper settings you will get the best results, ever... seriously. if you're scarred of command line, use the MeGUI or Handbrake frontends. same encoders, different approach.
i've spent many years experimenting with various video encoders/compressors and from my experience i've concluded that regardless of what you're trying to accomplish, h264/aac codec combo will give you the best quality than any other codec out there. oh, and make sure to use mkv container. it's the most flexible of popular container formats.
lastly, if you just want an easy tool, use Sorenson Squeeze. very flexible, easy to use, has gpu acceleration, and gives quite impressive results. only downside is its hella expensive, that is if you're trying to stay legal
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Very true, our device will typically play most formats stock without a complaint. I mostly set this thread in motion for our fellow xda'ers who were having trouble finding options to overcome a single file size limitation without splitting. Your info was spot on my man.. well said!
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http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
That is a very simple, no options (other than picking the phone model) encoder. I don't know off hand that phone in its list has similar resolution with our phone (800x480 I think) but it works without a fuss. It doesn't do batch, only one at a time. I don't know if it's 2 pass or not. My preference is handbrake. If you use something like that, check in the settings that CABAC is off. That is a feature that will make smaller files but it will need more cpu to decode during playback. Off setting has larger file sizes but it's less cpu intensive during playback. I haven't made a comparison between on and off but I don't think off makes the file really huge. If you're doing DVD resolution encodes, dual pass encoding with video bitrate of 2000 is sufficient with no noticeable difference in artifacting from 2500.
Another suggestion is with the video the phone camcorder makes. It's bigger than it needs to be file size wise. Run it through handbrake with default settings, only changing CABAC to off, and perspective (screen) to none. That makes a 1080 2 gig 20 minute video down to about 300mb and I don't see the difference in video quality.
patrick_1 said:
Another free alternative is Freemake Video Converter, it's the VLC Player of file converters with device presets preloaded.
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Thanks for this heads up, but I have a question. I was converting a DVD to test this one out, and it seems to work flawlessly so far, but I did notice if I choose to convert to Android 800x480 with the defaults everywhere else, I wind up with files around 1.25GB. Is there a particular set of settings I can use to shrink that size or a way to take the mp4 files and reduce their size? I'm used to mp4s being ~300 - 500MB, so just wondering if there is a way to set it up I'm not seeing.
I use Hand brake without issue on my epic touch. Just throwing out another program for everyone to try.
darthstewie said:
Thanks for this heads up, but I have a question. I was converting a DVD to test this one out, and it seems to work flawlessly so far, but I did notice if I choose to convert to Android 800x480 with the defaults everywhere else, I wind up with files around 1.25GB. Is there a particular set of settings I can use to shrink that size or a way to take the mp4 files and reduce their size? I'm used to mp4s being ~300 - 500MB, so just wondering if there is a way to set it up I'm not seeing.
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Welcome! Yeah you can change a few things, the bit rate and format play a lot in the over all file size. Mp4 will compress more as apposed to avi. The ps3 setting is a useful one for that. You can click on each of the presets setting and get an overview of the container/codec/bit rate/frame rate that are being used to give you an idea.
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Thanks again. I found in the dialog box that allows me to rename the mp4 I can also limit the maximum size of the file. It automagically changes the bitrate that way, and I have much more manageable files now.
darthstewie said:
Thanks again. I found in the dialog box that allows me to rename the mp4 I can also limit the maximum size of the file. It automagically changes the bitrate that way, and I have much more manageable files now.
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Nice! Glad it's working for you! BTW..."darthstewie" damn I wish I'd thought of that as a username!!
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