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Working Android on BA! (tested myself)

Hi, yesterday i was trying to launch android on my BA and i DID IT!
It works like ****:
Touchscreen doesn't work (you can activate list scrolling by pushing it on the side)
Some buttons don't work
No sound
Navigation:
D-pad (left, right, up, down)
Enter (on the keyboard, since D-Pad center doesn't work)
!WARNING! there is no end call and back buttons, you can't exit applications
How to? Here is the tutorial:
Create a folder on your memory card
Get the latest HaRET from here http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/
Get the latest zImage from here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/htcblueangel/
(i use zImage-2.6.21-hh20-r16-htcblueangel.bin)
Rename it to zImage
Put that default.txt
Code:
set kernel zImage
set initrd "initrd-android.gz"
set CMDLINE "rootdelay=3 root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk_size=23504 init=/linuxrc"
boot
Now you need the system - Android
Get that: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd-android
Don't forget to rename it to initrd-android.gz
I've got it from here http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

it stays in jumping to kernel... i followd the steps above, did you copy pasted the command correctly??

rafyvitto said:
it stays in jumping to kernel... i followd the steps above, did you copy pasted the command correctly??
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Try different kernel. It works for me

GVG said:
Try different kernel. It works for me
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Could you please tell us how did you install android on Blue Angel? Procedures and everything else. And also your opinion about it's performance. thank you very much

blackout_pt said:
Could you please tell us how did you install android on Blue Angel? Procedures and everything else. And also your opinion about it's performance. thank you very much
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Just launch Haret.exe
Speed... hm... Almost like WM6

a lot slower than wm6 the android image should be tweaked in order to have proper drivers for touchscreen keys and sound

wow...very cool, I'll be looking for updates (if there are any)

hi friends,
i tested android and seems a good toy
i did make a rar with all files needed, you need only to extract to SD and run haret
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/147524450/android.rar.html
i'm really interested to go further on android.
about my tests, i can conclude two things:
- D-pad works, but not very well
- Touch screen is not working, but i know it detect moves on it
(try to dpad a icon, then touch the touch-screen, you ll see)
I'm not a expert on pocket pc, but i have my skills.
I found an other thing, hardware specification.
Code:
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHardware
if the information is right, the touchscreen is from the same family that the vogue one.
To continue this adventure, i need some lights. I know we have a developer from the kernel/Opie/GPE in this forum. If you are him, i need some lights about your work.
The other thing, i'll try to do is asking help to vogue/kaiser android project, to give me some lights how they touchscreen work.
The last thing. All the help is appreciated, everybody is invited in this project and all the help is welcome. And i really need it lol
udapte (23/9/2008)
Well i talk do vogue android project man, and the answer from him is simple. His work was only to port kernel to vogue platform. I will have to find who made the one we are using.

The touchscreen is detected, but somehow it doesn't work.

i have failed .
my BA get a FlashDIsk and ramdisk in WM6 enrironment..
when i run haret ....
after jumping to kernal
an error occur
can't mount SDcard .it's halt..
why...

How about your work? I'm working on this task also. Need more information to make it working. Could you give me some patches for BA's kernel.

Also the SC Card Message, any adivice o workaround?

w0w...
it runs on my BA. Great!
However I cant do anything inside. But thanks to all of you that make this possible.
I'm waiting for the next release, hope it will run faster, and all get better.
Thanks.

Is anything happening with this?

Any news?
Is vogue version working? I have try to build a kernel for BA but false to boot
Will try and report later....

kernel
I have A LOT of, like everything I could find, files to load linux on the Blue Angel. Angstrom, Familiar, QT...somethingsomething... Anyway, it works well except the wireless which I think should work until the thing goes into standby. Would the zImage/initrid files or any of the others help? I'd like to help ya get this working, I think most of the works been done. I must say, however, I am just learning about how this stuff works. I can't code, but I have a BA, lots of experience repairing hardware like ppcs and I really would love the chance to finally give back to this wonderful community after they've given me so much.

It would be great to get this working. It would give my pda2k a whole new lease on life.

any updates on this?
Thanks

so, any news? android would be quite nice.

i concur. i'd liketo see a android on the blueangel, why isnt there one? linux runs fine on it, theres an older android that supposidly boots on it.
cmon somebody make the damn thing work.

[TESTING] Android Eclair 2.0.1 On Blackstone Jan 8, 2010

Over the Rafael Forums, babijoee is having a great testing process of Android 2.0.1 on Rafael which also works on Blackstone with some modifications, BIG THANKS to him.
So, here we will get Android 2.0.1 to work on our lovely Blackstone (HTC HD).
New Build by babijoee is released with COOL fixes. Jan 8, 2010
Note: There will be no nicknames for this project as it's a generic build.
Overall Status:
Working:
-Touchscreen:
-Vibration:
-Capacitive Buttons and Navigation wheel
-Keyboard
-Radio
-Brightness Control: Must turn off autolight in WinMo
-GPRS (thanks Phhusson )
-Microphone works: Reverted in-kernel htc_acoustic mic. Now using custom kernel without those commits. you can go thanks Battousai for this one !
-Charging (phhusson )
-Market
-Sound
-debugging breathing led for sleep mode: lets you know when your device is sleeping. This shouldnt affect your battery life at all.
-Wifi: was always on when enabled. Now it is used alot less often so the device will be warm at most.
-Task killer app.
-Android information program.
-Gsensor: fixed
-Power collapse
-Proximity sensor
-ramzswap
-idle sleep mode
-deep sleep: Remove pm.sleep_mode=X from startup.txt if you have it in your default.txt .. check this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5304904&postcount=731 (IMPORTANT).
-Accelerometer fix: Now very accurate and shouldn't cause your device to randomly change view. Thanks to mmone3
-sms fix: yep the one you guys have all been waiting for ( thanks phhusson )
Not Working:
-Bluetooth
-GPS
-Camera
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Fresh Installation:
1-Download the build from any of the links below.
2-Extract the zip file to your computer.
3-REPLACE startup.txt with the attached one then open it and add you wifi.mac
4-Copy all the files to your SD Card. (I prefer a clean SD)
5-Run Haret.
6-Wait for a while.
7-Smile.
8-Play with it. ("it" refers to your "Androided-Device).
9--Post your feedback.
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Download:
babijoee said:
The current GIT
http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commits/htc-msm-2.6.27
Downloads
BASE PACKAGE: http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.6.01.10.7z
THIS BUILD DOESN'T NOT FULLY INCORPORATE ALL LATEST COMMITS FROM GIT. I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!! THIS PACKAGE IS CUSTOM AND SHOULD NOT BE MODIFIED AT ALL IF YOU WANT IT TO WORK. DONT ADD ANYTHING BESIDES ANDROID APPS!!!! DO NOT UPDATE THE ZIMAGE OR MODULES OR YOU WILL FIND MIC DOES NOT WORK. ENJOY THE RELEASE
NEW*: System update: http://htcandroid.xland.cz/system-accelloremeter&smsfix.sqsh
SIMPLY RENAME TO system.sqsh AND OVERWRITE THE EXISTING system.sqsh AND THAT IS IT. THERE IS NO NEED TO DELETE DATA.IMG UNLESS YOU WANT TO.
zImage Autobuild (Glemsom) http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/
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[COLO R="Red"]Use under your own responsibility, No Risk anyway.[/COLOR]
Donations:
Please donate to core developers of Android as they made it what it is today.
babijoee, dzo, zenulator, phhusson and any other that help you get Android working
Cheers.

Currently writing FAQ. Will include some very useful stuff for all.

My test:
Material - All from post 1 + old calibration file + zimage from 18th Dec 2009
Run haret with my wm6.5 with PHONE ON, BT OFF, Wireless OFF, Data OFF. So, gsm was actualy working when i run haret from my wm6.5
Boot was normal and android boot himself in OFFLINE mode. I didn't understand why because phone was on in wm6.5.
I tried to turn on Wlan and it tried to initialize but then it didnt.
When i tried to disable airplane mode, it crashed as expected.
BTW, why dont we try to add wifi.mac=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx to startup.txt?
Thanks!

herpez said:
My test:
Material - All from post 1 + old calibration file + zimage from 18th Dec 2009
Run haret with my wm6.5 with PHONE ON, BT OFF, Wireless OFF, Data OFF. So, gsm was actualy working when i run haret from my wm6.5
Boot was normal and android boot himself in OFFLINE mode. I didn't understand why because phone was on in wm6.5.
I tried to turn on Wlan and it tried to initialize but then it didnt.
When i tried to disable airplane mode, it crashed as expected.
BTW, why dont we try to add wifi.mac=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx to startup.txt?
Thanks!
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Great to find someone to test.
I don't think adding wifi.mac will work, I will test it though.
Something with Radio itself is preventing Eclair from booting, thats why we need to run haret in airplane on mode.
Currently, testing n searching to have phone working on Eclair.

Any way to make android log/debug all the stuff so we can later see what made the crash?
Thanks

boot
I am boot haret with phone on (wifi,bt,data off) but not freez. Freez only after when iam try to disable airoplane mod. Iam cant wait for next release /SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH (CZ)/

herpez said:
Any way to make android log/debug all the stuff so we can later see what made the crash?
Thanks
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Seems to be a software/hardware conflict or incompatibility issue.
I'm working to find a solution to fix "Radio" in the meantime.
Clues would help

I guess, since osamaa started the phone with (radio off) option, which is required by the android build. And it is stored as setting in data.img. so others, without rebuilding data.img will be able to boot without setting radio off in winmo.

do you need to laungh it trow sd cart?
isn't there a possible to laungh it form the memmory of the phone?
thx

mcdull said:
I guess, since osamaa started the phone with (radio off) option, which is required by the android build. And it is stored as setting in data.img. so others, without rebuilding data.img will be able to boot without setting radio off in winmo.
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Yeah you're right.
The reason why the radio should remain off in the meantime is that the device freezes at startup, as mentioned earlier. You can't run haret with a blank data.img now. we should first find out what exactly causes the hang.
I'm looking into rootfs.img now. you guys can help by trying different ones and giving feedback.

reyber said:
do you need to laungh it trow sd cart?
isn't there a possible to laungh it form the memmory of the phone?
thx
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No, you can only launch it from the SD card using Haret to boot Android over Winmo (Which is installed in the internal memory).

so ant updated zimage to test. good luck with the project. join us on #htc-linux channel on irc. together is power and sharing is caring.

mcdull said:
I guess, since osamaa started the phone with (radio off) option, which is required by the android build. And it is stored as setting in data.img. so others, without rebuilding data.img will be able to boot without setting radio off in winmo.
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However, in my case, i started haret with phone ON and when it went to android, android himself turn to airplane mode.

tids2k said:
so ant updated zimage to test. good luck with the project. join us on #htc-linux channel on irc. together is power and sharing is caring.
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which server ?

osamaa said:
which server ?
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irc.freenode.net
i guess

chat.freenode.net
meet phh,cr2,Netripper, and many more. they will sure help u.

UPDATE:
babijoee made it up, RADIO IS WORKING NOW.
So the problem as he described is:
babijoee said:
The reason for freeze
Something in the Android build is telling it to use CDMA networks, so when it loads the radio and connects to the GSM network it freezes. I have used the latest diam500 zImage which is meant for CDMA and Android runs perfectly without even using my data.img. Although there is no CDMA networks where i live so i cannot connect to anything. Perhaps someone with a CDMA device can confirm this. I'm going to do some research on how to switch to GSM. If anyone already knows how to do this, be my guest and share your knowledge
nvm i fixed this and now its working
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I will test it first on Blackstone then post a release for you guys to test (Or to call your friends telling them guess what I'm using Android 2.0.1 on my HD)
Keep Following.

osamaa said:
UPDATE:
babijoee made it up, RADIO IS WORKING NOW.
So the problem as he described is:
I will test it first on Blackstone then post a release for you guys to test (Or to call your friends telling them guess what I'm using Android 2.0.1 on my HD)
Keep Following.
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I'm following. However, i think it's better to talk in the other topic, unless if it's a Blackstone specific problem.
Just my opinion.
Thanks for the update!!!

osamaa said:
UPDATE:
babijoee made it up, RADIO IS WORKING NOW.
So the problem as he described is:
I will test it first on Blackstone then post a release for you guys to test (Or to call your friends telling them guess what I'm using Android 2.0.1 on my HD)
Keep Following.
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nice to hear
What is the problem to "flash" Android on the internal ROM ?
I mean, when i press the On Button on the phone, it starts a "Bootloader".. this starts windows mobile.
Why should it not possible to tell the bootloader to start direkt Android?

Great work guys!!! it seems to be working pretty well...not yet as good as 1.6 by phh but it's on the way...and it could be even better...really better...
Android 2.0.1 is great...
keep on this way!!!

[W O R K I N G] Kaiser-Buntu - Ubuntu on the HTC Kaiser (!UPDATED w/DL-links!)

Hello everyone,
I am happy to inform all those folks who waited for a full Linux operating system on the HTC Kaiser PDA that today a little bit modified version of Zubuntu finally booted successfully on my HTC Kaiser.
It is a really in the alpha-state but it works, let's see what do we have:
TouchScreen: works perfectly with calibration
Screen: looks good. but programs doesn't support Kaiser's small resolution. You can fix this by using INTERPOLATION, but this makes picture quality a lot worse. To try it out edit the default.txt, find the mddi.height and mddi.weight values and change to for example 480 and 360.
Keyboard: works exactly as expected, some fine tuning with the keyboard map will be done
ScreenRotating
Not tested/not working:
WiFi (MY #1 ISSUE, TRYING TO FIX): I extracted the wifi section from an Android rootfs, successfully modprobed wlan.ko, dmesg shows that the driver is loaded OK, but:
Code:
iwconfig
tiwlan0: no wireless extensions
ifconfig tiwlan0 up
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address
TI's WLAN_LOADER program didn't work either, so now I am moving to the other driver (wl12xx)
Bluetooth (Driver is there, no BT programs installed, couldn't test it)
3G
Cameras
Phone (NO dialer, nothing, however perhaps gsm-libs can help us firing it up)
Many many thanks goes for all these people form the #htc-linux IRC channel: randomblame, Markinus, ali1234, Ondalf and bombenbach for their outstanding support and help!
I would like to say thank you especially to phh for his awesome help and patience with me!
Click on the image for more pictures!
Stay tuned for: hopefully working WiFi, screnshots, YouTube-demonstration.
If you are interested, want to say thank you, want to help, or have an idea how to fix some things please write into this topic.
Also if you like my work, please consider a little a donation for me
After all, I am pretty sure now you want to try this on your own too, so here is the link for the Google-Code website. Download all the files and read the Wiki to know what to do.
http://code.google.com/p/kaiser-buntu/http://code.google.com/p/kaiser-buntu/
Link to RootFS:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ANRC94ON
Mirror (thanks to jmcbrother):
http://rapidshare.com/files/371631240/ubuntu_rootfs.rar
Mirror #2 (thanks to hoatienii):
http://www.mediafire.com/?uvytadoykyy
Want to be updated? Check out the project's Twitter page!
http://www.twitter.com/kaiserbuntu
Thank you,
DOMy

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great work . please upload link to test

Sweet that is great news! I can't wait to try it out!

Me wants the alfa link
This is so great!
Maybe we can find a solution at my hackersspace.

Great Work... Luv Linux.... Ported Android on Windows Mobile Device... Eager to port Ubuntu on Kaiser...
can you please share the Linux Beta link ...

Makes me almost wanna install Ubuntu on my PC.

Dukenukemx said:
Makes me almost wanna install Ubuntu on my PC.
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oh……thank you……I wanna test……wait ……

Would it be destructive to flash it to nand at this point in the project?

I wouldn't count on it even remotely fitting on the NAND. Besides, you'll probably have to have half the apps on an SD card anyway...

how about a build that will work with the new nomorootfs installers so hose of us like me can try it without going back to winmo, Would like to install to ext2.img files or sdcard partitions.
And is this remotely close to the MER Linux build that progress seems to be halted on I was able to get it to work

working XWindow?

I wouldn't recommend installing it to NAND (it doesn't work so good, for example I didn't have time to test power/suspend).
Xwindows works perfectly (except the resolution issue).
DOMy

resolution issue. can you please explain that? (whats wrong in resolution) before i flash back to ,WM and try it

Michga said:
resolution issue. can you please explain that? (whats wrong in resolution) before i flash back to ,WM and try it
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The problem is that the rootfs is not for the Kaiser and the Xserver uses some hardcoded resolution (that means there is no config file for it) so circa half of the windows are too big for the screen. It is not a big problem because you can move them around so it is easy to get to one of the corners and resize them so you can see the whole thing at once.
Fixing this is on my To-Do list

sorry for the dumb question but...
will this support phone???
no mention in the OP.
I assume no. (for now anyway)

mnjm9b said:
sorry for the dumb question but...
will this support phone???
no mention in the OP.
I assume no. (for now anyway)
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Driver support is there, but AFAIK no frontend yet.
DOMy
mod: I found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/comm/gsm-utils and this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man8/gsmctl.8.html perhaps I will try it later (or someone can try it and report)

This intrigues me muchly, but why ubuntu/debian based?
There are other, (and imho simpler), bases to build on, slackware springs to mind, and there are some tiny distros out there, which may also be worth looking at, to say nothing of the likes of Familiar, an interesting candidate for a non-android htc-linux.

[FYI][Myn's Warm Eclair][Porting Project]

Just for your info:
I got in contact with Myn for porting his Warm Eclair on Diamond + compatible devices. We want to bring this up on our Diamonds as he also has a Diamond device. So far I get Warm Eclair running til boot animation and then it stucks and reloops. His Donut build is a very fast and stable one and he cooks very good roms for the Vogue / Kaiser devices. So stay tuned, I will inform you when this gets updates.

I'll be watching this closely. I've used Myn's Warm Donut on my Vogue and was extremely pleased with it.
ByteWrencher

vatoloco said:
Just for your info:
I got in contact with Myn for porting his Warm Eclair on Diamond + compatible devices. We want to bring this up on our Diamonds as he also has a Diamond device. So far I get Warm Eclair running til boot animation and then it stucks and reloops. His Donut build is a very fast and stable one and he cooks very good roms for the Vogue / Kaiser devices. So stay tuned, I will inform you when this gets updates.
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so if you can port it, will you also release a flashable rom?

actually isn't possible to flash an android rom..the main problem(i think)is that we can't make linux bootable without using haret

HELICOPTER88 said:
actually isn't possible to flash an android rom..the main problem(i think)is that we can't make linux bootable without using haret
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but what about htc vogue or kaiser?
there it is possible to flash an android rom. What are the differences between these 2 devices and our diamond? If the differences aren´t too big (but I think they are) it shouldnt be so hard to make a Rom.

who said its impoassible guyz NAND=Porting i guess correct me if i am wrong experts..the only reason its still not NAND on diamond is there are still some loopholes but i think definitely the experts are working at it and crack will crack it soon

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but what about htc vogue or kaiser?
there it is possible to flash an android rom. What are the differences between these 2 devices and our diamond? If the differences aren´t too big (but I think they are) it shouldnt be so hard to make a Rom.
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to make a nand flash possible, xdandroid must be able to initialize ALL the (important) hardware on ALL the phones, becuase winmo won't be there to do it for us. I don't think we have that yet. then someone'll have to port dzo's bootloader, or write one, get a working nbh, etc... I'm sure people are hard at work on it, but there's probably some other things still pending that are more important.
vogue NEEDED nand to compensate for lack of memory. getting data on nand was huge for us. but the xdandroid devices don't have the resource constraints that vogue has... even running an unoptimized build from sqsh with minimal hardware support, my vzw tp runs as fast or faster than my vogue.
all that to say: all things will come in time.

mrkite38 said:
to make a nand flash possible, xdandroid must be able to initialize ALL the (important) hardware on ALL the phones, becuase winmo won't be there to do it for us. I don't think we have that yet. then someone'll have to port dzo's bootloader, or write one, get a working nbh, etc... I'm sure people are hard at work on it, but there's probably some other things still pending that are more important.
vogue NEEDED nand to compensate for lack of memory. getting data on nand was huge for us. but the xdandroid devices don't have the resource constraints that vogue has... even running an unoptimized build from sqsh with minimal hardware support, my vzw tp runs as fast or faster than my vogue.
all that to say: all things will come in time.
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thx for your explanation.
i think its now better with the haret bootloader, cos you can update rootfs or zimages easily. A flashable rom would only be useful if everything works. so youre definitely right

Just a quick update for you:
I've sent out the Warm Eclair package to Myn. He will look into the thins and hopefully get the relooping boot animation working.

anyone help me how to make partition onwindow xp in my internal storage???
i cant understand from that android site...

anyone help me how to make partition onwindow xp in my internal storage???
i cant understand from that android site...
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What don't you understand? It's stated several times in several threads and also on my website that you will need Linux for partitioning. So Windows won't work! You may use a LiveCD, though I recommend you to install Virtualbox and Ubuntu on your windows machine.

vatoloco said:
What don't you understand? It's stated several times in several threads and also on my website that you will need Linux for partitioning. So Windows won't work! You may use a LiveCD, though I recommend you to install Virtualbox and Ubuntu on your windows machine.
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oh thanx for that...
but i am tierd of downloading..
so plz bear me...
thanx a lot i will try today..

Please let's keep this thread clean. It is intended for Porting Myn's Warm Eclair to our Diamonds (first post)

NAND ?

Hi developers,
i have a big question:
I read some time ago, that it is possible to install android on NAND of the HD2.
My question is : is it possible to install it on the NAND on the Touch Pro?
Because it is really slow, if i run android over MicroSD card, and it would be awsome ,when android runs faster.
Best regards,
BikerBoy030

At the moment (and to my knowledge) the answer to your question is no. User e334 tried but failed and bricked his phone. You can read more about his attempt in THIS thread. He was attempting to find out a few values that are apparently required but he did leave a few hints of his findings in that thread.
By the way, what version or build (neopeek-variants or xdandroid) are you using and have you updated everything to reflect the latest that is out and relevant.

brick !!! too sad
So, is this the end of hope for NAND on touch pro ???
pls somebody told me !!!

For now, yes :enter sadface of choice here: However, the xdandroid dev team are steadily working at improving stability and adding features some doubted at first; such as camera which is, in testing phase atm. The only thing I can say is that, "it ain't over till it's over!"
n-Joie! (Enjoy)

BikerBoy030 said:
I read some time ago, that it is possible to install android on NAND of the HD2.
My question is : is it possible to install it on the NAND on the Touch Pro?
Because it is really slow, if i run android over MicroSD card, and it would be awsome ,when android runs faster.
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Just FYI, NAND will not provide any improvements in speed. The optimizations really need to happen in the system, moving to NAND will not solve those problems.
The HD2 guys had a ridiculously complete port of Android when they were still on Haret. We're still not near that stage.
They have it easy, they just rip builds from Desire, etc...

thanks for the fast answer:
that is really sad, that he briked his phone....this is such a sweet phone
I used xandroid, updatet all and could use all programms etc.
But it wasn't smooth...it stocks a bit at all,what it did.
It feels like it used a "bullet-time-mode"
Maybe it would be enought if i willl overclock it to 710 mhz this COULD be enought, but i didn't tested it.
Wich version is more smooth: neopeek or xandroid?
Regards:
bikerboy030

To my knowledge, OC'ing will not help stability. If anything it will make it more unstable. Neopeek builds seem smoother but requires more setup time upfront (multi-partitions and what not). XDAndroid builds may seem rocky at first but are much quicker to setup and it has a nice plug-n-play feel.
n-Joie! (Enjoy)

i had no problems with the stability, it was only too slow.
than i will try neopeek, maybe it feels better.
the problem is: a good friend owns a desire z, overclocked to 1400mhz...that is smooth.....
but if the touch pro works smooth, it would be fine

Well, i can be totally honest to say as far as speed, that XDA android runs quicker then WM does even on my touch pro. I am running wm6.5.5 NRG rom (jan.4), which is pretty zippy to a month ago version of 6.5.5, noticably, but android is actually visually faster. Now that camera is working fine, battery i get around 7-8 hours with little less then normal usage, and would honestly use it SOLELY if it didn't randomly drop data and needed a reset to fix (which i usually just stay in WM when it happens.), but ALSO mostly since at work (IT Tech) i use tethering a lot to grab a driver almost daily (our net connection is 'clear' and is a bit worse in speed then my phone. SAD yes.)

Hmm ... I'm one of those people who eagerly await with great versions of NAND. What exactly is needed to it came to Raphael? Of course, I'm not asking for what must have been fixed and asking, I assume that in theory it already is. Let me add that I've read about, whose founder bricked his Raphael.

Bootloader is required.

Corias said:
Bootloader is required.
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Ok, I'll ask differently. What is needed to create this Bootloader for Raphael?

GoldAngelo said:
Ok, I'll ask differently. What is needed to create this Bootloader for Raphael?
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Knowledge of how to write a bootloader? What do you mean?
We have one called tinboot that dzo wrote for the vogue guys. That's what the RHOD is using, but A LOT of work needs to be done to get it to work on other devices. It's not even a full NAND flash for the RHOD....

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Knowledge of how to write a bootloader? What do you mean?
We have one called tinboot that dzo wrote for the vogue guys. That's what the RHOD is using, but A LOT of work needs to be done to get it to work on other devices. It's not even a full NAND flash for the RHOD....
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I would like to know what is needed to version NAND and how this process (creating nand and tools that you need, such as the bootloader and other ) should follow you. Of course, theoretically. Perhaps someone from another country would take on this (not everyone knows looks at XDA;-) maybe after the publication of the national forums that someone will take).

GoldAngelo said:
I would like to know what is needed to version NAND and how this process (creating nand and tools that you need, such as the bootloader and other ) should follow you. Of course, theoretically. Perhaps someone from another country would take on this (not everyone knows looks at XDA;-) maybe after the publication of the national forums that someone will take).
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I'm no dev, so I won't be able to help you out directly. But look up tinboot, and look at what us TP2 guys have for a NAND bootloader thus far.
ACL has a GIT repo for our NAND tree that is publicly available as well.

We started talking about Raph and Diam nand in the Blackstone thread somewhere around here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051880&postcount=124
I've compiled the kernel for blackstone-nand and will try to flash this onto my diamond tonight or maybe tomorrow. Wish me luck

detlef25 said:
We started talking about Raph and Diam nand in the Blackstone thread somewhere around here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051880&postcount=124
I've compiled the kernel for blackstone-nand and will try to flash this onto my diamond tonight or maybe tomorrow. Wish me luck
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I wish you a lot of luck
If you succed please share your values,maybe we can make it to boot ext2 partition bulids

Is 512 MB of Raphael's internal NAND enough for Android?

Corias said:
Is 512 MB of Raphael's internal NAND enough for Android?
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More than enough, I thing the G1 had like 192 or something.

arrrghhh said:
More than enough, I thing the G1 had like 192 or something.
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Yeah,a build is about 150 mb